Use a D12…you’ll get there quicker

Bon Voyage 👋

Not since Brexit!

Always one…

Careful what you wish for!

I tried the but it’s rubbish on my piddly little phone

@@BoardGameBollocks yeah, much better on a good sized tablet

Games that don’t require apps that actually require apps don’t generally stay around too long here.

Word up!

they re-designed the box in 2022 so it's a little more compact though many copies of the big box still out there!

Still loads of wasted space. No way I’m putting the minis back in the insert each time.

I agree with this statement

Id stay where you are at the moment if you know what I mean… Btw. I love Winnipeg. I back packed across Canada back in 1996 and stopped over there. Lovely people.

@@BoardGameBollocks - LOL, aye, good plan to stay where I am! But no way?! You backpacked across Canada?! Dude, that's awesome! Glad you liked our fair city. It's small, but I like it that way. Ah, '96... good times back then...

In december…😐

@@BoardGameBollocks Oh my gosh!!! LOL! In December?! That IS bollocks indeed! That's the worst time to come through Manitoba... winter. I don't know why I still live where the air hurts my face 6 months out of the year...

I remember stopping at a place called Sioux Lookout on the train and someone told me it was -30C

I’m sure sure I want a £100 game where I have to put in loads of effort just to have fun with the thing.

Other games give more, cost less, and aren't flawed out of the box.

Good move 👍🏻

Space Hulk still aged gracefully...

I agree mate. Thankfully we picked it up in a bargain bin.

Totally agree, over ninety notes, they are having a laugh.

They don’t fit if you leave the miniature trays in

@@BoardGameBollocks True, and even the third party inserts can't accommodate future expansions, so its either Ziploc bags or one of those 35 litre ReallyUsefulBoxes which are excellent for storing the D&D Adventure Board Games, if you include some of their Large Tray 6s.

Always thought it was pointless as you’re only replacing one symbol for another 🤷

Hundred quids worth of Stella? 😐

@@BoardGameBollocks maybe a bit of Mel and Griff as well

Which ones do you have? What is your favorite?

@@chrisc1625 I only have Castle Ravenloft and the Ghost of Saltmarsh expansion but they work well for me and not needing someone to play GM helps. If you need a GM or Overlord role, why not just play DND or another ruleset and use those combat mechanics?

Yeah, why I decided to pick up a copy. AD&D is not something my kids will have the attention span for let alone taking on board the rules and having to 'imagine' everything. HeroQuest seems a good entry for them into this style and theme of game.

@@bobbobbing4381 my eldest is now starting to write scripts for D&D adventures and drew out a massive map. All thanks to this great board game.

@@barnabybot My 6 yr old painted one of the zombies from the first edition I used to own and loved it. No, I only have bits and pieces of the 1st edition left and which died a horrible death. Before he went off to school today I asked him if he would want this new edition board game to play this Sunday. Just ordered it.....

@@bobbobbing4381 the quality is really good. Compared to what I've seen of the old version, this one has solid plastic for everything. Heavy solid plastic. Took the sting away of paying £80 for it.

We haven’t no. I’m not a big fan of the wotc D&D.

@@BoardGameBollocks pretty decent at £40 odd with tile placement, traps, enemies and all that shizz

They're more detailed minis that are a slightly bigger, but they've lost all the style. They also suffer from limp-weapon disfunction due to the soft plastic. The game looks like someone decided to 3D print World of Warcraft characters.

It doesn't have a solid framework, it has a malleable framework. The game provides some scaffolding of rules that are functional, but unbalanced and bland. The players are left to flesh out new rules, balance, and playtest them. One of the reason's it's too easy is because the players can clear a room before the monsters get an activation. There's a bottleneck strategy with the doorways that effectively protects the heroes from all but the luckiest monster rolls. You can throw every monster in the game in a room, and they'll be unlikely to crack the barbarians armor often enough to prevent him from tanking. And, if they do manage that, the dwarf just swaps into the space. Step one is you need ranged enemies to force the players to close group. However, this creates new issues, because characters like the wizard will collapse. So, the overlord has to play a facilitator role rather than an antagonist to keep the party from collapsing. The traps mostly just slow the game down. If you introduce more traps, then that's just more turns where the players are dealing with traps. That means they're either disabling them or avoiding them. The search being separated into 3 actions already bogs down the game. To expand on issues the game has, most of the spells don't scale well. The wizard is like the inverse of a D&D wizard. He's strong at the start of the campaign, and then can barely pull his weight at the end of the campaign. I will give you that HeroQuest functions as an introduction to learning how to DM. But, it's kind of like being stuck with a bike where you can never really remove the training wheels. Great for younger teenagers (which is why so many of us have nostalgia for the title), but there's so many RPGs and dungeon crawlers available these days as alternatives. I love the original game. I spent 3-4 years playing it heavily with friends. We played most of the campaigns that were available in the US. But, it required a heavy amount of house rules to keep it fun. The gameplay eventually wasn't even recognizable as HeroQuest beyond the combat resolution. Why settle for such a poor gaming system unless you're pursuing nostalgia?

@VaultBoy13 so you’re saying there’s no game here and the players have to create one?

@@VaultBoy13Thank you very much for this highly illuminating comment. I *do* have the nostalgia, but this has convinced me to invest my money in something else (for now).

​@@VaultBoy13I really want to find a similar board game like this. Which one do you recommend?

Still a bump at £80

I thought that *initially,* but because of the deal that GAME were doing for loyalty-card holders on board-game purchases exceeding (I think it was) £30 at the time, I got an additional £5-worth of loyalty-card points, so in a way that knocked the price down to £74.99.

Yea about that. That’s what I paid for it.

Amazon bargain?

Eh.... If you think these componenta are top notch, dunno what to tell you. Compare it to Oathsworn and its very lacking.

I would if I had it…easy to find?

Yea. HeroQuest. It’s generally regarded as a noob game.

I’m setting sail on Thursday

We found it in a bargain bin so I’m not too upset. Had I paid retail price I’d be livid.

I don’t think it’s a necessarily a kids game. My kids didn’t like it - the found it too random and lacked meaningful decisions. I avoided this game in the 80s and played Basic D&D instead. This was regarded as a fake rpg and wasn’t very popular at my school.

@@BoardGameBollocks Spot on. Random movement and rolling for action too, two bad rolls and your turn is meaningless and there's no strategy if you can't reliably do something.

So, basically, put in a bunch of work to make a flawed game fun?

It was £40 on Amazon a couple of days ago…keep an eye out

Clearly…

@@BoardGameBollocks If your name's not on the door....

@@BoardGameBollocks Clearly what?!

That’s a novel take on roll and move. Personally I just find it annoying as I can’t strategise against the random roll.

Descent or imperial assault. Gloomhaven or Claustrophobia are decent

The best game I found for scratching the HeroQuest itch is Warhammer Quest: Blackstone Fortress (which, might be a bit hard to find now). It reminds of what it used to feel like to play HeroQuest as a kid, but is actually an excellent game. Descent (although, you're probably not finding this for cheap now) or Imperial Assault are the options if you want an overlord. Shadows of Brimstone isn't a bad match either, but it's got some similar pain points like roll to move. Shadows of Brimstone is more of a sandbox though. It's probably the closest thing to the original Warhammer Quest in regards to rules and gameplay.

Yea but more expensive for the latest one.

@@BoardGameBollocks I will watch your review to, gather more info. I owed hero quest back in 1992. Wanted something new.

I’ve not done a review for Descent. I owned 2nd edition a while ago but got rid.

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Yea. It’s not great on a piddly little phone.

But they're not Heroquest though

I held back…

You win the spotter prize 😂

Hell no

Better

Just a reminder that the fence you’re sitting on probably needs treating after 30 years 😐

HeroQuest can be adapted gor any ttrpg. It is basically just the tt of any ttrpg. The RPG can be fone by players and its rules are so perfevtly dimple that you always can make them more detailed. Likewise you surely can play any dnd adventure with simplified HeroQuest rules.

Original may be cheaper now this has droppes

@@BoardGameBollocks hope so. I’ve been trying to get a copy for 30 years. It was always sold out and then the expansions came out and they were selling those but not the original game itself

What’s the difference

Doors are a pain in the arse. Keep getting in the way of the minis. Prefer a cardboard token tbh.

I would’ve liked an option to use tiles instead of a board and an option to remove roll and move. That’s wouldve keep the luddites happy and saved me a lot of grief in the comments of this video.

@@BoardGameBollocks Hahahahahahahaha 😂🤣

@@BoardGameBollocks So I'm guessing you're not keeping the game. 😂🤣

I’m going to play through the expansions with my kids and then ditch it

The worst part is that Restoration Games was actively working with Hasbro to actually modernize the game. Instead, Hasbro decided to crowdfund their own version with no rules updates and bad art.

Played it all the way through and it still sucks I’m afraid 🤷‍♂️

The game aged pretty poorly. Outside of nostalgia (or playing with young teenagers), there's very little to enjoy here.

​@@VaultBoy13For some bizarre reason I still want to play it 😂but the game is quite expensive so I'll probably never get it anyway. Are there any better alternatives to Heroquest?

Can you recommend another game that is better that is similar to Heroquest? Besides D&D. I'd prefer a gameboard like this one.

@joshuabourque3009 Arcadia Quest, Massive Darkness 2, Claustrophobia

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@@BoardGameBollocks lol sorry. Member Berries were a plot device used in an episode of South Park to convey the idea, that businesses/media often rely on nostalgia to re-release old products/media as easy cash grabs. Im not really saying its good or bad. Just laughing about how obvious it is. I am one who is wholeheartedly happy, everything is identical.

It pretty much cack. If I hadn’t found it in a bargain bin I would never have picked it up

Can I ask how tall you are?

@@BoardGameBollocks yes you may :) thanks... i am like a typical elf

Word!

Money grab

Hasbro had no need to crowd find this. They’re a multi billion dollar company. It’s way over priced for what it is. Even adjusted for inflation it’s 51% more expensive than it was in 1990.

You can’t compare Gloomhaven with Hero Quest. That’s just bonkers mate 🤣 If the US rules are better I dread to think how dire the UK rules were. At the end of the day the game sucks in 2022. Even in 1989/90 people mocked Heroquest players… Hasbro using a crowd funding platform has to be the weirdest thing I’ve seen in board gaming in a while. Sorry but I think your judgement has been clouded by nostalgia and the need to justify your exorbitant payout (I know you will vehemently refute this 🤷). I get the same defence from people who drop mega bucks on mediocre KS debacles. Have a nice day 👍🏻

I didnt read any of that as I’m done with this…feel free to keep wasting your time though…have a nice day 👍🏻

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