Sorry, but this is not an optimization, only a roughness adjustment to your hearing. You cannot influence sharper focusing of the instruments or the voice or achieve better precision in the acoustic mapping. All of this, however, can be achieved by a better cable.

@@FDKAUSW Best way influence the sound , is room acoustics treatment .

@@johnolson4977 or matching your source,amp and speakers

Yeah we thought that was normal on an amp then realised you dont need them

Yeah but cable is more profitable for the industry

Exactly ,Iv'e just seen some interconnect cable for sale at Richer sounds for in excess of £400, jeez what exactly are you getting for your money?

One thing that is a simple fact is that the music that we are listening to is modified electricity. All parts of our systems are components in this. Including the cabling. Components do not only come in metal boxes. The wires connecting them count too As does the quality of the electricity feeding the system. Why is it that people find it so hard to believe that the cables we use make a difference. The better cable co. Have different sounding cables in their offerings. For my rig I found that Nordost works quite well. They are a little pricey so the used market has been a saving grace Using a tube amp as my engine room pairing pairing cables called for a defined and revealing cable , like Nordost's heimdall or red dawn. They have a popular cable called blue heaven. In my system it turned the sound mushy. In another system it might add the softness it needs, perhaps in a SS oriented sharp sounding one. As the man said cables can be a great tweaking/tuning opportunity. The worst thing the wrong cable can do is contribute to listening fatigue. Most of the give away cables are in this category. This is veryry evident in headphone listening. A good head phone cable can make a big difference and reveal the difference in cables. If anyone is still with me I have to say that it has taken many years of experimenting to get it together and I probably am not done. The most important instrument is our ears to find compatibility in all our components. Running a dedicated line from the stereo to the box I found can also show improvments. Cheers, to my friends across the pond, good listening, JACK

you can try convincing yourself and you may succeed but the fact is the cables debate in its current form is artificial. that's why you NEVER see SPLs and numbers on the super expensive cables that are supposed to guarantee the greatest performance :}

Thanks Richard yeah 10,000 not far away hopefully KZfaq will see me differently after that cheers K

I told the guy at Best Buy no, I didn’t want the “plan.” He said why not!! Because of the price. If I’m buying cheap shit I’m not paying more to insure it. Idiots

@Hans Hansen 👍

I agree Paul but is it cost effective to spend silly money on cables as I was looking online at Richer Sounds and there were numerous cables in excess of £400 and I thought RS were a really good discount store! Confused I certainly am! When I read you can buy really gòod interconnect cable for in the region of 40 to 50 pound for a metre to a metre and a half I can only wonder are we being conned? My hi-fi equipment I have built over a good number of years has amounted to in the region of £7000 to £8000 and I have been looking upgrading 3 interconnects which will cost me in the region of £100 to £120 as the interconnects I have are so old and really do need replacing and I have been advisedthat the connects I have chosen will work well in my system ! What are your thoughts on my post ?

Thanks for the info K

Van Damme LFOFC is amazing bang for the buck:)

what gage? THANKS!!

@@wjvlodek8769 the type that they use for lighting was what I originally started with, it's about 1 mil I think, I'm currently using the stuff for plug sockets is a bit thicker.

@@MrRichymil I think that is 12 gage (12 AWG)...but I am not an electrician...THANKS!!

@@wjvlodek8769 the only problem I have with it is that it's a bit stiff going into the back of of the amplifier with the solid core not flexing nearly as much as stranded.

You beat me to it Richard ! Good old twin and earth is well worth trying for very little cost. I've used it in a few systems over the years. Certainly is hard to beat in terms of ' bang for buck' !

Two bads don't make a good...

Thin wires over a short distance = Thick wire over long distance

I have a B Sc in electro engineering, so my comment here use to be erased, say no more ;) Don't calculate, 500 pounds on speaker cable must be fantastic. :)

@@CraftAero We are talking over 20-30 meters!

@@arnolfini1434 Yes, and the OP is comparing that to ~100mm of internal speaker wiring.

Hi Mark I would be interested to try your cables you could email me on the homepage my email should be there be interesting cheers mate

@@stereoreviewx Hi Kelvin, I can’t find your email on the homepage. Probably not allowed. I’m on eBay so you can send me a message on there if you like. It’s my surname, all lowercase followed by 4539. Cheers, Mark

Yes thanks for that now one thing I want to say about tables which I think is behind a lot of the controversy let’s say it’s kind of psychological in that it’s a subject you wish did not exist because there is enough ruminating on and speakers source material whatever When you then adding cables part of me goes oh don’t start I can’t cope . What I mean is a lot of people shun. Cables because it kind of overload the brain. I agree with everything you said. K

@@stereoreviewx K, I understand exactly what you're saying, however the fact remains that cables are significant in their role. I've had clients sigh, "Oh God" at the very mention of them and I've had to give the analogy of them being the arteries of the system and with clean arteries both biological and electrical, things perform better. Again, best of luck with the channel, mate.

You should have got 1000 likes, null test prove everything. I use the cheap cable that came with my Quad CDP, but what do quad know about sound quality!

Well if the plugs and cable are the same then short like half a metre compare to 1 m short will be better but it’s going to be very minimal the cable itself is a big player

Ok thanks. I have a good old 25 kilo amplyfier, that generates a lot of heat. Due to that, it is placed outside the rack, thus I am using 1,5 to 2 meter connecting cables between the pre amp and the amp. Due to your best knowledge/ feeling would this be a minor tweaking issue, I should not worry to much about?

So you had poor advice? 🤡

I don’t know where half of my cables ever came from they seem to accumulate like tumbleweed

I wouldn’t argue

At a certain point your paying gold prices for copper.

@@jdavis234 Absolutly.

I would love to get my hands on a £700 interconnects just to hear it I mean I can’t do that much Canet it’s only a cable

@@stereoreviewx I think cable manufacturers try to justify you or I spending stupid money on cables as it in their interest to do so! I just use those things on the side of my head to hear a difference! I've listened to expensive and less expensive cables on the same equipment at hi-fi shows down the years and always I ask for a blind listening test and the difference is so minimal that I am unwilling to pay silly money so I will spend in the region of £100 to £120 for 3 new 1 mtr interconnects!

I do not believe it either, cables are fake fraud, and a waste of money, get a good one by looking at the kind of cables you are wanting for your system, I know a bit about also, and have not heard any improvements either, save your money,

You can't measure clarity.

show me measurements of sound stage or weight in bass.

@@Bob.martens you can measure anything

You are one of those who either hasn't tried or just lacks the ability to hear differences.Granted some are small but there are some instances where differences can be huge...

@@spandel100 ....said the clairvoyant 😁 Seriously, I am poking fun a bit, I can hear differences in speakers etc, but I have to admit I haven't sat down with cables testing as I would speakers. I think just a decent priced sheilded cable speaker or interconnects will suffice and just spend the rest on decent quality source and speakers I'm not an electronics expert but I find it difficult to see how a cable delivering voltage/current would have a significant effect on the sound produced, bearing in mind however good the conect or cable the current still has to go through the amp and speakers which to my mind would play the biggest part. Pointless sticking a 4K TV signal through a standard non 4k TV. Better spending on a 4k TV first to do the source signal justice. Any benefits a cable would produce would be negligible and probably inaudible anyway and you would have to have a very, very high end critical system to even contemplate it. I mean some of the prices can be thousands for a few meters of 99.999999 silver plated ofc cryogenically frozen with bells on cable. Crazy!! I know people can hear differences, I do with speakers, yet our eyes and ears often do deceive us, even if it is all real, our ears make compensations and probably explains why we hear differences much more with new speakers etc until our own hearing beds in and then the next new item our ears go 'hmm not heard that before' 🤔 then adjust accordingly until the new pair of speakers/cable etc. At the end of the day, I think like ghosts or god etc, if you believe you hear something you probably do and good on you but how much is placebo and how much is our own hearing in relation to the cable sonic abilities is all subjective I guess. Interesting stuff indeed and always open to being convinced otherwise of my views. P.s I know I should compare cables before I shoot my mouth off 😅

@@deydododontdedoh.5672 I hear you,that being said I had a Marantz 67se cd player which was a little over zealous in the treble.After fitting solid copper core Audioquest cable interconnects and speaker cables,all the frequencies evened out.The sound became smooth and detailed with a touch of warmth.Now when it comes to very expensive silver cables and such,you let through the electronic noise,you can hear the workings of the equipment.This to me is not desirable and comes across as a "frying steak"effect.Too much high frequency detail.Go well.

@@spandel100 certainly interesting. 🤔 Sometimes I think hi-fi can be a mix of science and religion, as long as we each reach our own Nirvana by whatever means is all that matters in the end. 😊 I may one day try out some different cables to see if I notice anything, call me an open minded sceptic 😁

Some people even think gods exist, so why not magic cables? Just as silly. People make big money on both.

I think it would be possible to prefer the cheap cables one day when I’ve got some one to help me I might just try a proper blind test in various areas speakers cables et cetera

Well I’ll definitely try them I like the idea of the studio equipment because they’re not going to be as gullible as the public I guess thanks K

I’m not sure that spending money on expensive cables is going to give you much improvement on your sound quality. You would be better off spending money on upgrading your speakers, amplifier, turntable, phono cartridge. Spending large amounts of money on cables would probably be of benefit when you have a high end system.

@@stevenclarke5606 Sorry, but I disagree with that. Even if you have a high-end system and are considering upgrading it with exorbitantly expensive cables, it is much less effective than if you go over and z. B. take a look at the switches of your exorbitantly expensive loudspeakers ... unfortunately many well-known manufacturers still use, for example, sinks with iron cores or ceramic resistors or other junk or swap the bell wire internal wiring of your loudspeakers against "van" for me the Hull "1qmm cable (not too expensive). You can carry out the same procedure with your amplifier while you are at it ... and then ... but only then (!) Can we take a look at the cabling between the devices ... but only if your speakers are over 20k lie ...

Yes this will be quite a huge production costs I can imagine. I mean if you think of a grand piano playing live the best you can hope for from a home hi-fi is accuracy but that it will be miniaturised or just smaller K

Yes that’s what I’m hearing

Yeah good point shorter is better in fact The Altima I would say is the cat the plugs off and sold it onto the circuit board which I have done in the past is a definite win win Cheers K

Well one thing you can try is just cut the cables and expose new engine out just trim 1 cm off your cables Because the copper can definitely oxidise and that really isn’t good

@@stereoreviewx yes thank you, good point, should always expose some new copper. My mate gave me a pair of fat grey Linn speaker cable to try, I can do some tweaking with them.

Yes I mean this is it it’s just a re-orientation of sound a lot of the time

Youve never heard the difference because there are no differences

What is that?

​@@stereoreviewx It's when a fixed width gap is made between positive and negative cables... much like the old nordost or new Van Damme cables. Great video, thanks!

I think I agree

Interesting

Neither it’s copper ore rolled on the thighs of a virgin

Yes I wouldn’t argue with you is the emperors new clothes syndrome

I wouldn’t argue

Yes I have used mains cable solid core before it suited certain speakers tightened up the base I thought

I'm a firm non believer in cable, biggest con in audio ! Audiophile network switches are another. It's amazing what the human mind will convince you, well for a short while.

For the price , Van Damme are amazing cables. The newer Van Damme LFOFC gave me a smoother sound than the Blue with same great detail:)

me too recomend power cable on kettle amazing

I'm using it as well as Naim NAC5- DNM is a very good cable.

@@richardjohnston4682 absolutely agree, I think this is the most overlooked audio product on the market. You don’t hear much about it but it’s great. Best part is that it’s very affordable, around 12 quid per meter. My speaker builder confirmed it’s fantastic quality.

Furukawa I think www.hifishark.com/search?q=furukawa

Furukawa speaker cables - often used with entry level Naim amps from the late 1970s because Furukawas doesn't send the Naim into bursts of oscillation.

Yeah, you have. It’s spelt cables not Kables. 🤪

Nonsense it's wire. make your own, use 12 - 14 ga. With no more than 3-4 ft. Extra wire, if you use solid core your going to physically damage the back of your amp. Or speaker connectors

@@ericschulze5641 Mad dogs and Englishman...

Yes giant interconnect with puny internal wiring

Yes, I agree. The fact I have a nine channel high-performance Dolby Atmos setup, the RF background signal noise (noise floor) was so apparent it got to the stage that I didn't even want to switch it on. Years later nearly all of my cables are now shielded and now I look forward to switching it on 😊

You've completely made that up. How odd.

@@bigblueocean He only said he could imagine 🙄

@@richardjohnston4682 not exactly flattering though eh? Better to put his imagination to more positive use don't you think?