Hierarchies of Violence in The Shining

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Eyebrow Cinema

Eyebrow Cinema

3 жыл бұрын

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Concluding our series of horror-themed video essays, we tackle arguably the most obsessively over-analyzed horror movies of all-time. Let's see if we can integrate the conspiratorial theories of things like Room 237 with the core text that is Stanley Kubrick's The Shining.
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Works Cited:
The Gothic (Blackwell Guides to Literature). 2004. David Punter and Glennis Byron.
Kubrick’s Shining Secret. 1987. Bill Blakemore - www.washingtonpost.com/archiv...
The Shine of the Shining: Domestic Violence and Deterministic Trauma. 2019. Ashleigh Boutwell. - scholarworks.gsu.edu/cgi/view...
The Shining. 1974. Stephen King.
Who’s Afraid of the Big Bad Wolf?: Domestic Violence in The Shining. 2016. Elizabeth Jean Hornbeck. - www.jstor.org/stable/10.15767...
Why The Shining is Terrifying. 2017. Super Eyepatch Wolf. - • Why The Shining is Ter...
Music Featured:
Stepping out of melancholy by Lingua Lustra
sednoseteres by Hinterheim
Hello Regan! by Loyalty Freak Music
Both Flanks by Small Collin
I Feel You by Soft and Furious
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@grumpyyyyy
@grumpyyyyy Жыл бұрын
Excellent review. Few people point out that Wendy does all the maintenance work on the hotel, yet Jack treats her dismissively. There’s the scene where she talks about his writing and getting back into the habit and he sarcastically replies, Yes, that’s all it is. He clearly doesn’t like her or Danny that much from the get go and resents them. Yet, like many abusive people he needs them to give him the semblance of normality.
@xBINARYGODx
@xBINARYGODx Жыл бұрын
since they are even taking this job that no one would really want, we can assume they need the money because he has not written anything worthwhile (to sell) recently - and you can imagine he blames his family. Perhaps his last good work was before them, so, ergo they are to blame in his mind.
@tgfitzgerald
@tgfitzgerald Жыл бұрын
@@xBINARYGODx In the novel he was fired from his teaching job for punching a student. The only reason he even gets the interview at The Overlook is because his rich drinking buddy pulls some strings. And his meeting with Mr. Ullman isn't at all pleasant because he's aware of Jack's history and does NOT want to hire him. All of Jack's problems are entirely of his own making.
@ceinwenchandler4716
@ceinwenchandler4716 11 ай бұрын
What in the world would he mean by that "that's all it is" remark? As a writer, YEAH. If you're in the habit and writing every day, that is most of the process.
@BarnabusBarbarossa
@BarnabusBarbarossa 9 ай бұрын
@@ceinwenchandler4716 He resents Wendy for presenting a simple solution. In his mind, he's made his writer's block an unconquerable obstacle, and he's irritated by Wendy's suggestion that he just needs to put in effort. His response is a contemptuous but downplayed "Oh, SURE, that's all I need to do, why didn't I think of that?"
@ceinwenchandler4716
@ceinwenchandler4716 9 ай бұрын
@@BarnabusBarbarossa Makes sense. Thanks :)
@tgfitzgerald
@tgfitzgerald Жыл бұрын
It's telling too that the only time you see Jack and Danny spend any time together one on one is when Danny goes to get his fire engine. We see Wendy playing with him, making his meals, watching cartoons with him, comforting him when he's upset, etc. But we never see Jack talking to or caring for Danny. Either that's by design because Wendy doesn't trust Jack alone with Danny, or Jack just doesn't have any interest in spending time with him.
@watermelonlalala
@watermelonlalala 6 ай бұрын
But Danny chooses to go into the room where Jack is sleeping, even though his mother warns him it is not a good idea. This shows Danny is not feeling that afraid or abused by Jack. And Wendy let's him go, so neither is she.
@Angelenowithacamera
@Angelenowithacamera 2 ай бұрын
Well we do eventually and it is a creepy scene!
@MoviesILoveandsocanyou
@MoviesILoveandsocanyou 3 жыл бұрын
“Art can be interpreted any way, but the best interpretations tend to be the ones that actively engage with the text rather than use the text as an excuse for rambling.” I’m gonna petition youtube to pin this to every video essay on this site. Great stuff, Daniel.
@EyebrowCinema
@EyebrowCinema 3 жыл бұрын
Haha thanks man! I wrote that line and thought "is this too mean" but figured the point stood.
@dannywest8843
@dannywest8843 2 жыл бұрын
@@EyebrowCinema Did you major in Literature, out of curiosity?
@thor3279
@thor3279 8 ай бұрын
This approach certainly pops the pin of the various balloons like "Fake Moon Landing" you mentioned as well as the "Wendy Theory." Yeah, you could string together all those pieces in that order and with that intent, but sheesh, with that approach, what couldn't you prove this movie (or any piece of art) demonstrates?
@payleryder45
@payleryder45 7 ай бұрын
That was the misdirection so you wouldn’t notice that this is precisely what he does with his sophomore level rambling after.
@redtexan7053
@redtexan7053 3 жыл бұрын
For me, The Shining has always been a remarkably difficult film to watch. Not because there is anything particularly frightening in it in the typical fashion of a horror film. My bump in the road with The Shining is just how real it is, and how personal that reality is for me. This movie does an incredible job of capturing the environment and fear of domestic violence. The way it makes you feel like you’re always walking on egg shells. The feeling that even if there is nothing overtly wrong with the place or the situation, just the empty lobby of a hotel for example, you still are never really safe. It’s a powder keg that could be set off by any little thing, at any little time, and you’ll never really be sure just what will set it off, or when. All you know is that eventually, inevitably, it will explode, and you are going to get hurt. And there’s nothing you can do about it. All you can do is try, most of the time futilely, to prepare yourself for it. It’s just the most dreadful feeling in the world, and it’s one I am unfortunately far too familiar with to enjoy exposing myself to it any further. Still, despite everything it so expertly dredges up, the part of me that drove me into filmmaking cannot help but adore the film. Everything about it is so meticulously and masterfully crafted. I may have referred to Poltergeist as the perfect scary movie in that it hits just the right note to be both scary and fun enough to be enjoyed across all spectrums, but The Shining is a *perfect* scary movie. It is practically infallible. I cannot find a single flaw in the film, and I cannot say that about many films. The only other one I can think of is Schindler’s List. It may very well be Kubrick’s magnum opus, a prestigious title indeed considering the man’s filmography. It is such a strange feeling, this clash of adoration and terror. I suppose it’s a bit seeing a tiger at the zoo. I am perfectly content to admire its beauty from afar, but I certainly have no interest in getting up close and personal with it. Anyway, your analysis of the film was expert, as always. I have greatly enjoyed this run of Halloween horror essays, and I eagerly look forward to what you will be moving onto next.
@EyebrowCinema
@EyebrowCinema 3 жыл бұрын
This is a wonderfully written comment from top to bottom. Oh, and thank you for your kind words :)
@utkarshjha564
@utkarshjha564 2 жыл бұрын
Film is overrated. I have tried to watch it but felt it's nothing but a confusing trash.
@thor3279
@thor3279 8 ай бұрын
I recently tried to watch Poltergeist right after watching The Shining , and found I just couldn't. It's so clumsy and obvious in comparison. It even makes the same "Indian Burial Ground" reference, only the burial ground is made out to be an acting boogeyman (taking to the Nth degree by prime Simpsons :) ). that bizarrely and obviously man-made deformed tree outside the window a perfect metaphor for how Poltergeist forces the 'eerie,' where The Shining is just so seamlessly eerie.
@HappyHamProductions
@HappyHamProductions 3 жыл бұрын
You point out how overanalyzed the Shining is and yet this is the first video critique I came across that unflinchingly points out the seemingly obvious reading that so many theories dance around or completely ignore. Additionally, your analysis manages to precisely voice interpretations which were only feelings for me when watching the movie. So, thank you for that!
@EyebrowCinema
@EyebrowCinema 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, thank you! I appreciate your kind words. Also I dig your profile pic. And yeah, the thinking that The Shining is a puzzle leads to a lot of analysis completely missing major elements of the text.
@juzujuzu4555
@juzujuzu4555 3 жыл бұрын
The Shining certainly isn't over analyzed. People think you cannot come to real conclusions or find enough evidence to prove any points, but that's wrong. Though it's hard work. Kubrick as the most genius artist at least in the era of cinema puts so much into his films that most people just can't comprehend it. He had absolute control over his films, he was absolute genius that hoarded information throughout his life and wanted his art to express what he has learned. And also to make the best art he could make. One great angle from the point of art --> kzfaq.info/get/bejne/e7OorJirtdCVnWQ.html
@iamamaniaint
@iamamaniaint 11 ай бұрын
The bathroom slur seemed so out of place when I was young, but now I know it's totally deliberate and serves the theme. Jack even repeats it, showing he's on board with whatever as long as he can be a part of the Overlook's high society. To be a part of, as Ullman puts it, "all the best people."
@comradejosephstalinoftheus8698
@comradejosephstalinoftheus8698 3 жыл бұрын
The Shining is one of the few films I would give a perfect 10/10, nothing is done poorly about the entire film and I believe that it is the best horror movie ever made.
@EyebrowCinema
@EyebrowCinema 3 жыл бұрын
A masterpiece, without a doubt. It's also fascinating as a horror movie given it both plays within genre conventions but is also entirely singular.
@sl4y8r76
@sl4y8r76 3 жыл бұрын
Except treatment of the actors by kubrick lol
@comradejosephstalinoftheus8698
@comradejosephstalinoftheus8698 3 жыл бұрын
@Stalin Bourgeoisie Yeah, Kubrick seemed to be a bit psycho.
@StudMacher96
@StudMacher96 Жыл бұрын
It’s scary cause it can actually happen and has in real life before
@radmanstan413
@radmanstan413 3 жыл бұрын
At the end of the movie when jack is shown at the 1920s party, it took place on the 4th of July
@millhousemillard2140
@millhousemillard2140 2 жыл бұрын
I fuckin love this movie. The Delbert Grady scene is my favorite scene in movie history. The twist of Grady going from bumbling servant to sinister overlord never gets old
@tomnorton4277
@tomnorton4277 2 жыл бұрын
Philip Stone was a very underrated actor. The subtle shift in his demeanour when he says "I'm sorry to differ with you sir. But YOU are the caretaker" is perfect. You can hear his voice grow a little darker and more menacing. It's a stark contrast to Jack Nicholson's constant energy throughout the film.
@iamamaniaint
@iamamaniaint 11 ай бұрын
God I love that scene. I love the way you describe it! There's a similar power dynamic shift in the Halloran/Danny scene at the beginning when Danny starts questioning him about room 237.
@millhousemillard2140
@millhousemillard2140 11 ай бұрын
@@iamamaniaint oh man good call
@nateds7326
@nateds7326 3 жыл бұрын
Funny you should mention the "shining as an effect of abuse subtext" cause in doctor sleep haleran confirms that his grandmother abused him.
@EyebrowCinema
@EyebrowCinema 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. Was this only in the novel? I don't remember that from the film adaptation but I might have missed it.
@nateds7326
@nateds7326 3 жыл бұрын
@@EyebrowCinema if I remember correctly he told danny on the bench in one of the opening scenes. He said that she was an evil woman, "like your father", and after she died she still haunted him so he taught danny how to put those people in mental boxes, which I am now realizing is an extended metaphor for getting over abuse after it's ended. Doctor sleep is really good. Don't know if it was in the novel just saw the film.
@nateds7326
@nateds7326 3 жыл бұрын
@@EyebrowCinema ok scratch that it was his grandfather not his grandmother who abused him. Grandmother taught him too shine.
@EyebrowCinema
@EyebrowCinema 3 жыл бұрын
@@nateds7326 Fascinating all the same. Thanks for letting me know. I've been thinking of revisiting Doctor Sleep.
@fattyjaybird7505
@fattyjaybird7505 Жыл бұрын
"... he ran A-Muck..."
@awesomedallastours
@awesomedallastours 3 жыл бұрын
I think I've seen everyone of the The Shining video essays on KZfaq and this was, by far, the best. Thanks so much.
@EyebrowCinema
@EyebrowCinema 3 жыл бұрын
That means a lot, Sam. Thank you.
@andrebrito9337
@andrebrito9337 2 жыл бұрын
go watch collative learning
@IrishRoo12
@IrishRoo12 2 жыл бұрын
The one from Super Eyepatch Wolf was also phenomenal
@classiclife7204
@classiclife7204 3 жыл бұрын
An analysis that relies on the material under discussion rather than unrelated stuff the analyzer is interested in? Heroically fresh! Must be why this is one of the best vids on "The Shining" on KZfaq (along with Eyepatch Wolf's take, which also stresses domestic violence). Great job again!
@zekefaucher8528
@zekefaucher8528 2 жыл бұрын
honestly i think the performances really sell the theme of abuse shelly, danny really sell that they fear jack and jack nicholson really sells the contempt he has for his family they’re is always some sort of tension when they’re together
@SnapperChannel
@SnapperChannel 3 жыл бұрын
This has been a great series of horror essays. You’ve really opened my eyes to the hidden themes and a lot of parallels to real life past and present. I think what I’ve learnt from these videos is that horror films do have the capacity to talk about the real horrors in life behind all the supernatural imagery. I think this Shining video is the culmination of all these topics you have discussed.
@EyebrowCinema
@EyebrowCinema 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that. Thank you. I'm really glad you liked these videos. They were a ton of work (I started taking notes in June) but I think it was worth it.
@francoisgermain3991
@francoisgermain3991 3 жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT take on the film. Well done, sir.
@EyebrowCinema
@EyebrowCinema 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Francois! I appreciate that.
@brutalboy1000
@brutalboy1000 3 жыл бұрын
I may be pulling this out of my ass, but it's kind of interesting that as Jack aggressive behavior becomes more evident the winter weather becomes harsher. And the color of The Overlook Hotel's facade is replaced by stark, icy whiteness.
@EyebrowCinema
@EyebrowCinema 3 жыл бұрын
Good read. There is definitely some pathetic fallacy going on in the film.
@jwnj9716
@jwnj9716 3 жыл бұрын
An epic horror masterpiece from start to finish. It has the perfect soundtrack to go along, its eerie and creepy. Even though the story is clear, it still leaves you with so many unanswered questions. People have come up with so many theories or analyses which are interesting although the moonlanding theory is ridiculous. Rob Ager debunked it thankfully. I believe more in the Native American theory because its everywhere in the film including the soundtrack itself. The film really messes with you. Maybe the whole movie is just Jack's new book that he's working on. After hearing Grady's story, he says, "well that's is quite a story".
@EyebrowCinema
@EyebrowCinema 3 жыл бұрын
I kinda love that theories on the film range from "yeah, that makes sense" to "maybe that's a stretch but it's pretty neat" to flat-out absurd moon logic.
@jwnj9716
@jwnj9716 3 жыл бұрын
@@EyebrowCinema Yeah, at least you can get a good laugh.
@saulmartin8335
@saulmartin8335 3 жыл бұрын
After years of studying the movies subtle strange body language between its characters, its layered subtext and hidden themes , its symbolism and colour scheme/cinematography, its music ques and hidden backround noises , after so much time spent obsessing over it hahahaha . Ive come to a simple final conclusion , the movie itself is simply haunted .
@arnaraki7514
@arnaraki7514 2 жыл бұрын
The thing is, the whole production feels haunted as well. Everything about the movie is scary.
@jayfolk
@jayfolk 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite detail in The Shining is that the twins are killed by the axe, which threatens Wendy - the girls represent wendy, Danny's mother. And a bit of a shame that Dr. Sleep just makes all the ghosts in the hotel with concrete pasts, as opposed to larger thematic representations.
@EyebrowCinema
@EyebrowCinema 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I've been meaning to give Sleep a revisit, but I was not a fan of it on first viewing, largely because of what you lay out here.
@easymentality
@easymentality 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed Dr. Sleep quite a bit--until they arrived at the hotel. My interest and enjoyment consistently fell throughout that entire section.
@longnlean34
@longnlean34 4 ай бұрын
Great analysis! The use of domestic abuse, the use of "overlook," was brilliant. You actually figured it out. The name of the hotel itself was to get the audience to "overlook" the fact that Jack created the horror and that Danny would defeat Jack's goal of murder.
@Angelenowithacamera
@Angelenowithacamera 2 ай бұрын
But it's also the name of the real main road near the hotel that inspired the Shining.
@longnlean34
@longnlean34 2 ай бұрын
@Angelenowithacamera Yes, I believe it's called Overlook Ct. That is off of Steamer Pkwy near the Stanley Hotel, I digress. The name of the "Overlook" is an actual theme, one of several in the Shining. I actually realized that after analyzing and reviewing this film as a favorite pass time. Ambiguity is clearly intentional to keep the viewer conceiving their own conclusions and make it far more interesting than definitive conclusions.
@eZTarg8mk2
@eZTarg8mk2 2 жыл бұрын
the domestic abuse "angle" seemed obvious to me as well, it's very clearly presented as having gone on for longer than the timespan of the movie. It really does seem to be missed or ignored when folk aren't looking for it...like when they think they're seeing a ghost story. I whole heartedly agree with the idea "Shining" is a metaphor for being a victim of abuse, the whole section with Halloran and Danny from the kitchen tour, to the ice-cream conversation is laced with visual hints, a blink and you'll miss it time jump that folk think is a continuity error (the freezer door being opened). Each of Danny's visions after his first documented blackout with the doctor have these little time jumps. Halloran even makes pronunciation slips that mirror Danny's speech pattern, implying you're seeing this from Danny' perspective and we're not hearing or seeing what Halloran was actually saying, only what has been parsed through a traumatised kids brain. It struck me that Halloran may be trying to tease out information confirming his suspicion that danny has been abused, he's very delicate in his questioning, tonally, and is confused by responses that you'd think a psychic would know, given what he already seemed to have read from Danny's mind. He see's Jack for what he is and that's also why he makes the return journey when the phonelines go down, solid intuition about an abusive situation. using the evidence for the entire story being non-supernatural. i've seen the Kubrick quote where he refers to the book explicitly showing the events have to be supernatural, and people saying "see, he's admitting his film is doing the same"...all i see is Kubrick making a statement about the book, very specifically, and letting the listener jump to a conclusion that he never actually said...much like with the film itself, where we make assumptions, but if you listen to the dialogue very carefully, the character isn't saying what you thought initially XD of course the beauty of this film is that there is no hard and fast explanation of the events causes, it's as true to say its a ghost story, the hotel is a corrupting force, magical psychic stuff does exist etc...but the nuance of the family's performances definitely allow for the alternative to be entirely true as well, with all the very disturbing implications those 237 scene's imply if it's not supernatural
@Reed5016
@Reed5016 8 ай бұрын
And what’s funny to me, is how the people who read it as a film about abuse are the people who have been through abuse themselves. Thus, in a roundabout way, we are able to “Shine” into the meaning of the film. The ability to shine is implied to be caused by trauma. And it’s stated that people who shine can see horrors of the past. In real life, people who have experienced trauma can recognize the signs of it in other people.
@Melissa-tw2gp
@Melissa-tw2gp 3 жыл бұрын
“The ability to perceive history.” Genius!!
@DwRockett
@DwRockett 3 жыл бұрын
For some reason this is now causing me to think about The Shining sequence from Ready Player One. Not to imply any malicious intent on the part of the filmmakers, but given the depth of The Shining’s dark themes that you illustrate, it’s now striking me how weird it really is to recreate it in a movie like RP1. One could probably make a whole video on the decisions surrounding that sequence
@EyebrowCinema
@EyebrowCinema 3 жыл бұрын
I'm actually a defender of that sequence, haha. But yeah, there is a weird irony in The Shining becoming this beloved pop-culture icon in spite of how dark it is. It's like when people quote "You talkin to me?" as if it's some action movie one-liner.
@elijeremiah1058
@elijeremiah1058 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Spielberg took a deep, dark film he had nothing to do with and turned it into a Rollercoaster. Wheee! Blood!
@geraldlittle6245
@geraldlittle6245 Жыл бұрын
The fact that that scene was not in the RP1 book as well.
@scarymonsterzz
@scarymonsterzz 7 ай бұрын
Oh wow. The realization that the ability to "shine" can been seen as a metaphor for abuse survivors recognizing hierarchies of violence hits so hard.
@nicolasflamel7896
@nicolasflamel7896 3 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen yet your reply to my Poltergeist comment, Daniel, but I've already watched this video essay. I'm very glad you focused on and delved upon the domestic abuse as the true horror Kubrick's version manages to show and imply. I wish you talked a little more about isolation, because I think it's also an important theme. However, I'm also thankful you interpreted Jack as the villain, because I do agree with such reading. He is fueled to being violent due to the supernatural elements that manifest to him at the Overlook, but that's only a pretext, because his violent attitude and behaviour had shown again and again prior to the beginning of the movie, therefore establishing him as an abuser who may never change, and he never shows any true regret to what he has done. That's why the movie is so effective in portraying horror, as that is extremely relatable because it happens everywhere around the globe. The want and need for power is what drives men, principally men, to be abusive and to maintain power. I think Kubrick's version is a very deep critique of that. It's curious to note how he treated Shelley Duval while filming. It is often said that he was rude towards her and even said to other actors on set to mistreat her, so that her performance would be more believable and shocking. So, in that regard, the hierarchy of power is further underlined in the very core of the film. Keep up your great work! I really like your video essays about horror media. I hope in the future you cover more horror genres or other media that covers it, like books, manga, even paintings. Also, I hope you cover media from other countries other than the English speaking nations. There are tons of great examples from Korea, Germany, Japan and many others that I'm sure you can write about in your personal and thought provocative style.
@EyebrowCinema
@EyebrowCinema 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Isolation was definitely a theme I left on the table, which would have tied in nicely with the core theme of domestic violence. Definitely could have enriched the whole. I'm sure I'll tackle horror again in the future. There' 1 idea I've been toying with for a while which is not horrorcentric exactly but is about a horror movie. I also plan to do more foreign language movies. In addition to new seasons of Bergman's Cinema, there are definitely some movies from the countries you mention (and more) that would be very rewarding to tackle.
@ChadVanHalen5150
@ChadVanHalen5150 2 жыл бұрын
I will add to the chorus of praise for this essay. Like many, I've seen many many many people's analysis on the text and subtext of this movie... This is far and away the best, and most concise, one made. Thank you for such a great video
@CASantos
@CASantos 9 ай бұрын
9:19 one thing that I paid attention to visually is the usage of color ("natural" tones like brown and occasionally green + obviously shadowy black or white often as the backdrop versus the loud reds & blues) in almost every scene. I had wondered why Wendy swapped out of red/blue and into brown&green - quite a stark difference, the only other time it happened iirc was when they were first moving into the hotel and she and Danny first wore browns, juxtaposed against the hotel itself having a smattering or red and then blue chairs they were passing through the interior area. This moment makes perfect sense, as you see her backing up against and almost blending into the native American mural... against Jack coming in red white and blue to kill her 😩 again tying that cycle of violence into the present. Kubrick was such a great user of visual metaphors and the like... like really if you rewatch and just forget about the plot, it is truly a visually stunning work.
@g.b569
@g.b569 2 жыл бұрын
Room 237 is mostly nonsense But I do find it fascinating how people’s interpretations of one movie are developed. The one that is actually proven in the “documentary” is that the layout of the hotel is impossible, which Kubrick did intentionally
@gasjet2000
@gasjet2000 3 жыл бұрын
Kubrick wouldn't have known this but the Halloran character was also featured in the It novel as a young man who witnessed terrible brutality to his community in a flashback. The It novel, and not the films unfortunately, also feature a main subtext of abuse and how that can destroy people psychologically throughout the course of their lives.
@EyebrowCinema
@EyebrowCinema 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't know that. Definitely fits in nicely.
@thalia7104
@thalia7104 Жыл бұрын
@@EyebrowCinema He saves Mike's father and another man from the fire at the "Black Spot", possibly using his "Shining"-abilities. In the book (IT), it's said that the "Black Spot", a bar the black people from Derry built up, was set on fire by some racist white people, and he knows to not go to the door (too many people were there, there was no possibility to get out safely), but break through a window. So Hallorann, Mike's Dad, and the other friend were saved. (I hope I didn't forget anything, I re-read the novel last year (and read it to my Dad 😊.) And Yes, I know that the comment is two years old. Just thought I put it out there, if you or somebody else is interested in what happened 😊. Loved your analysis!
@jonhazin1626
@jonhazin1626 3 жыл бұрын
Such a thoughtful video essay, as always from your channel! I've seen The Shining only once, liked it well enough, and figured I wouldn't see it again. This video has definitely inspired a re-watch, with renewed interest and with a new way to view it too. Thank you!
@EyebrowCinema
@EyebrowCinema 3 жыл бұрын
That's wonderful! Hope when you do rewatch it you add another comment here letting us know how it played a second time. I don't know if The Shining is my favourite horror movie, but it's definitely the one I've watched the most and it's always rewarding.
@AlexDeLarge1
@AlexDeLarge1 7 ай бұрын
It is my view that the Native American genocide theory is correct, but it is actually the underlying meta narrative of the film and the Indian burial ground plays no actual role in the film's universe. It is an abstract idea Kubrick wanted to send out subliminally. The actual in-universe lore, I believe, is that the hotel is literally a giant hungry mouth (note that "Ahwahnee", the name of the hotel Kubrick modeled the Overlook interiors after, literally means "wide gaping mouth"), and Jack is a specific type of entity that is sent out by the Overlook to draw in unsuspecting victims to feed the hotel's lust for violence and hatred, but he is mostly unaware of this until he goes to the Overlook. And when he experiences certain things at the Overlook, he realizes he is totally at home and loves the racist history of the place, and embraces the evil it stands for, and his evil acts feed the evil of the hotel. And it ends on an uncertain note because the evil is ongoing. I also think the entities that the Overlook employs to seek out victims have the same last name every time, but their first names differ. Like Delbert and Charles Grady. The guy in the photograph at the end, by the Grady logic, would be a Torrance, but we don't know anything else about him. Notice how the ghosts all refer to Jack as "Mr. Torrance."
@spaceclown7650
@spaceclown7650 9 ай бұрын
As for Room 237, I think most of the theories are probably accurate, not just the indigenous genocide theme. Kubrick was saying that all these different forms of violence are related, because there's something evil in human nature. It's not just "white colonialism" (though it's certainly that too), it's human evil itself, and how "man's inhumanity to man" occurs over and over through human history. Humanity has a dark side, and people prey on other people in all sorts of ways ... and that's probably what Kubrick was trying to say. And what better way to say it than with domestic violence, a microcosm of the macrocosm. The 1921 photo at the end suggests that human violence is cyclic and never really changes. I think the main mistake of Room 237 is everybody wanting to say The Shining was about ONE specific theme (indigenous genocide, the Holocaust, etc) when in reality it has a much broader meaning, and involves all of these themes, not just one. As for faking the moon landing, I don't believe he did it. But I think Kubrick was well aware of the theory, and put that Apollo 11 shirt on Danny just to tease the conspiracists 🙂
@mireillelebeau2513
@mireillelebeau2513 2 жыл бұрын
Again, best critique of a movie, this is exactly why I subscribed and I always got more than what I expected.
@nicolechampeau8432
@nicolechampeau8432 3 жыл бұрын
I keep saying I'm going to make a video about The Shining, and/or The Exorcist. But as a new channel, I've not had the courage! Your insights are fresh and I love them. Also, Shelly Duvall's monologue about Danny's injury is one of the best film performances EVER! I love your videos and really appreciate the work you obviously put into them. Thank you!
@EyebrowCinema
@EyebrowCinema 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Nicole! And I agree, Duvall is fantastic here. That her performance has ever been considered is absurd to me. I'd also encourage you to make that video (or videos).
@ashleightompkins3200
@ashleightompkins3200 Жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis but something I think I should mention is that people don't often notice the abuse because of the themes of addiction. Jack hates every minute he has been sober and the moment he gets a drink, things start going tits up. But at the same time, people seem to think that the booze is what allows for the abuse and even excuses Jack's behaviour. The idea of 'He didn't mean it, he was drunk.'
@jacksonisonline2049
@jacksonisonline2049 3 жыл бұрын
great video! i’ve never thought about the shining from this perspective
@MousePounder
@MousePounder 3 жыл бұрын
This is just as good or better as the movie essays with a million views! Come on KZfaq!
@EyebrowCinema
@EyebrowCinema 3 жыл бұрын
Mouse, you're too kind. My thanks as always.
@kevinmcgahern7415
@kevinmcgahern7415 3 жыл бұрын
Your essays are great man. Just stumbled upon them today and Subscribed after the first one
@saulorocha3755
@saulorocha3755 3 жыл бұрын
It is curious that the doctor's expression of horror mirrors Jack's own during his interview with Ullman when he is told about the murder history of the hotel. So maybe what we have is a repetition and augur that the hotel has some relation to the Torrance's domestic violence.
@Xenomorph788
@Xenomorph788 5 ай бұрын
Great Video! I’ve seen lots on this and this one’s the best!
@hermanhale9258
@hermanhale9258 10 ай бұрын
Nobody thought of Jack as a monster until he started throwing that ball against the wall.
@nateds7326
@nateds7326 3 жыл бұрын
Definetly my favorite horror movie, while being one of my least favorite movies to talk about. Movies like this and 2001 have just been picked apart to death and then some, so I'm glad someone can get something new out of an analysis of it.
@EyebrowCinema
@EyebrowCinema 3 жыл бұрын
I was very nervous about making this video for that very reason.
@RadishTheFool
@RadishTheFool Жыл бұрын
Oh man, this is SO GOOD! I've seen the domestic abuse theme in The Shining discussed before, so the idea is not new to me. But you explain it so well and concise and poignant, both in word and image. What to me makes the movie even scarier is another theme that is being argued for it: there is a sizable portion of people (my guess is men) on youtube who believe the crux of the movie to be that Wendy is imagining the whole thing. The arguments are so scary, because they are based on very obviously abusive scenes being interpreted as harmless and normal. So the horror-scary scenes where Jack behaves aggressively must obviously be all in Wendy's head. Because, you know, Jack's such a regular Joe. Not only have people made videos arguing this point, but commenters agree with it so vehemently, and even spread the word about this 'better' theory in comment sections of other Shining videos. It's so scary to see that even a movie portraying domestic abuse so explicitly and overtly and at its very worst, can evoke such a sense of normalcy in a certain subgroup of people, who then so readily default to 'b#*ches be crazy man'. It actually made me nauseous, to suddenly be so intimately close to abusers' points of view. It still creeps me out to this day. The Shining truly is a masterpiece, and I'm so thankful for analysts like you who can communicate that genius to us laypeople without turning it into a flat simplification.
@ThePsycoDolphin
@ThePsycoDolphin 3 жыл бұрын
I think that's what's genius about Kubricks adaptation (and it shows what adaptations *should be*). It turned what is by all accounts, a pretty good pop-horror book into a psychological mind-fuck and a genuine masterpiece far transcending its subject matter. The supernatural is undoubtedly there (the freezer door opening from the outside is proof of this) it's so subtle and understated that you quite seriously imagine it's just a guy going nuts and abusing his wife and kids for now reason. As you mention, it turns it from supernatural to deeply domestic, and hence, much scarier. I mean, King can hate it all he likes, but it just shows who is the better artist. Sorry, it's just better this way (shrug).
@tomnorton4277
@tomnorton4277 2 жыл бұрын
I understand why King's salty but Kubrick's just better at his craft. It drives King nuts and it doesn't help that Kubrick basically did the whole movie as a "fuck you" to him. Kubrick was an amazing filmmaker but he was also a massive arsehole.
@IrinaChis
@IrinaChis 3 жыл бұрын
I recently came across another interpretation of the symbols in this movie as tied to Jung's archetypes. Apparently Kubrick was influenced by the idea of the collective unconscious and the shadow when making the movie. Not sure if you noticed but in Ul man's desk there's a copy of Jung's Red Book 🧐
@andrekaorugomes
@andrekaorugomes 3 жыл бұрын
Well... After this video essay, The Shining is more Scary than ever! The only thing that I dislike about Kubrick's Shining is all that stories about how such a prick he was with Shelly Duvall
@EyebrowCinema
@EyebrowCinema 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. I love the film to pieces but his treatment of her on set is not excusable.
@Angelenowithacamera
@Angelenowithacamera 2 ай бұрын
And Scatman Crothers cried because he made them do the scene with Danny in the kitchen so many times. But Kubrick had the whole film in his head while each actor only sees from their own point of view. He rode them hard because he wanted to make a great film! I feel for Shelly and love her OMG she is awesome! But it really worked out well for the feel of the film. As an actor you have to step inside the character. And it must have been taxing to be in the emotional space Windy has to be in for so long.
@anentity8960
@anentity8960 3 жыл бұрын
This is perhaps one of the most useful analysis of the Shining I ever know. Not only makes sense, this view also let us use the Shining to situate US history in a way that sadly still relevant (which can be seen how Kubrick's approach "overlooked" by countless critics, media, and youtubers alike). Sadly it is very ironic that in an attempt to portray systemic violence in society (particularly by men), Duvall had to endure a great deal of distress from Kubrick's unsavory treatment. I wonder how much a demanding work can be justified in making a piece of art, and how much can an art's message be perturbed by its behind-the-scene process.
@djmexicanodetx2195
@djmexicanodetx2195 3 жыл бұрын
The shining classic film!
@spaceodds1985
@spaceodds1985 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. Room 237, all sorts of theories… and we have overlooked what is actually obvious and infront of us.
@samanthakelly718
@samanthakelly718 2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit that ending gave me chills
@h3rbsman
@h3rbsman Жыл бұрын
My brain exploded when u said overlooked like that
@chandie5298
@chandie5298 Жыл бұрын
12:47 hahahahaah... "...King himself criticizes..." who cares? King is a good formulaic writer who made a career at writing novels in such a way so that he could market them to Hollywood and then be adapted by screenplay writers. King should fall on his knees and declare undying love to Kubrick for taking King's quaint little ghost story and using it as a framework to create a masterpiece of film.
@MousePounder
@MousePounder 3 жыл бұрын
Wait, So THIS movie has an indian burial ground? huh. Had not picked up that tidbit of info before.
@Hakajin
@Hakajin Жыл бұрын
The character of Mr. Halloran is especially interesting to me, because... Unlike the Indigenous people slaughtered, he's a part of modern society (which is patriarchal and White supremacist), but he's at the margins. That is, he's been brought up in the culture and shares a lot of its ways of living; he's accepted as part of society on some level. But he's still treated worse and excluded from a lot of spaces, and... The movie makes it obvious that even people who are nice to his face look down on him. So it's like what Judith Butler said about being Queered in society: when society others you and places you on the outside, you can see how arbitrary it is, that it's not "facts and logic" but something we made up. Speaking of which! Not that you did, but I HATE to see the supernatural elements in a film like this dismissed, because that's part of it: it's called positivism. Mr. Halloran talks about how people don't believe in "the shining," they look down on it as silly superstition. Jack also seems to kind of make fun of Wendy for being interested in things like ghost stories. There's this idea that if we can't prove it, it's not real, which places epistemology before ontology. That is, it acts as if reality is contingent upon our ability to know about it. Not that science and logic aren't great ways of knowing about the world; the problem is when those are framed as the only valid ways of knowing. It's used to dismiss the perspectives of Indigenous people, people like Mr. Halloran, his grandmother, women in general, children... Note that neither the therapist nor Wendy take seriously the idea that Tony is actually real. I think that's why spooky children and things like Indigenous burial grounds are such tropes in horror. Yes, that usage is othering, but if horror addresses societal anxieties... I think the one horror expresses over and over and over, even when it's also interested in other things, is that positivism is a lie, and everyone else is right.
@babs420th9
@babs420th9 Жыл бұрын
All that Kubrick needed to borrow from King was his hotel. The rest he (King) had all misunderstood, and Kubrick promptly showed him why.
@EyebrowCinema
@EyebrowCinema Жыл бұрын
I don't disagree. I like the book a lot but Kubrick really honed the material and brought out its best elements.
@aliasfakename3159
@aliasfakename3159 4 ай бұрын
The way Danny uses his finger to talk is a sign of dissociation. He doesn't feel comfortable voicing his opinions so he voices them through proxies (think little girls who put their dolls over their faces to "speak" through them)
@chazzjogie9893
@chazzjogie9893 3 жыл бұрын
Everything about this video. Exactly. Thank you.
@djgreen6710
@djgreen6710 11 ай бұрын
Amazing review, something I wanted to mention was how on my first viewing, I found Jack (and others like the ghost of the bartender or the guys in the interview) to be incredibly uncomfortable. With something uncanny and fake about their expressions and dialogue (like how Jim Carrey acts in comedies, but if it was a horror movie and he was the villain). This turned scenes that would normally be casual conversations into effective horror segments.
@rlh1984
@rlh1984 2 жыл бұрын
So, having the shining is like being woke? I can get behind that. I always wonder about what people think is scary about The Shining. For me, the scariest scene is when Wendy brings Jack food while he’s writing and he tells her she’s distracting him. What’s scary about The Shining is forming a bond with someone and find out you are trapped with an abusive, emotionally unhinged person. In The Shining, Wendy is trapped by her living situation with Jack in an isolated locale. It’s a much more cinematic representation of women who become trapped in abusive relationships for various reasons.
@thebcr1012
@thebcr1012 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely Astonishing look at the film! I swear that sometimes I feel like I once was like Danny in a way and my mom and dad were like Jack and Wendy Torrance in a different, but somewhat similar way.
@autumnfall1997
@autumnfall1997 3 жыл бұрын
Just found this channel it’s really good
@izzeallerdyce
@izzeallerdyce 3 жыл бұрын
this is fantastic, I love it
@segadan3709
@segadan3709 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! Great video
@aliasfakename3159
@aliasfakename3159 4 ай бұрын
In the novel, the Overlook has an animal motif: wasps. Wasp can also be written as WASP or White Anglo-Saxon Protestant. The Hotel, built as an exclusive resort for America's super-wealthy, is a relic that delves into racism and misogyny when it speaks through its avatars. Near the end of the book, it flat out yells at Dick Hallorann to murder Danny & Wendy (calling him all kinds of racial slurs) when it usually tries persuading people. Also, wasps are considered evil insects due to their aggression, who actively fly after victims even when their nest isn't in danger.
@mclare71
@mclare71 3 жыл бұрын
Well DONE!
@g.t.7590
@g.t.7590 Жыл бұрын
Very good analysis of one of my favourite movies.
@connormcclenny9681
@connormcclenny9681 3 жыл бұрын
Jack goes full Benoit. Never go full Benoit.
@CASantos
@CASantos 9 ай бұрын
10:36 YES. I can't believe how many people didn't get (or perhaps don't want to get) this part.
@PatrickMitchell
@PatrickMitchell 3 жыл бұрын
Damn, you really continue to make my videos look like shit. I love The Shining so much and it’s probably my favourite horror film (if you don’t count Eyes Wide Shut). In my rewatches, I’ve picked up on the themes of domestic violence but I never thought of how the ability to shine stems from abuse and allows the person who is abused by others and the systems that surround them to have a better understanding of violence, hatred and discrimination. Tying in Halloran in that way was brilliant. This is your best video to date. Keep up the great work.
@EyebrowCinema
@EyebrowCinema 3 жыл бұрын
Don't sell yourself sort, Patrick! I'll likely be revisiting your Castle in the Sky video very soon, funnily enough. Also, thank you so much. I was very proud of this while I was making it so it's comforting to hear this kind of praise.
@joiamed8544
@joiamed8544 Жыл бұрын
We as a nation have never dealt with slavery and also mistreating the native Americans. We might fall as a nation because of this.
@T_he.Ax_O-loT-l_
@T_he.Ax_O-loT-l_ Жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant!
@ethanwebb5334
@ethanwebb5334 Жыл бұрын
Great review! I recently read the book before watching the movie for the first time, and it's really valuable to hear from someone who can engage the film on its own merit while I feel stuck thinking about King/Kubrick version differences. Thanks for the insight!
@Hakajin
@Hakajin Жыл бұрын
What's interesting to me is that Jack ends up influenced by the hotel where he himself was the caretaker. To me, that gets into how Whiteness is a cycle that gets perpetuated. I think... I think you can look at Jack as both villain AND victim, because... I mean, we're not just talking about the supernatural influence of the hotel, but also, like you said, enabling. Jack may have had underlying violent tendencies, but those were rewarded, and... I'm coming at this from the perspective of (in)determinism, where concepts like "deserving" totally de(con)struct. I think... It's almost like the family fulfill roles in a play where the story goes a certain way. They do have some kind of agency, but they're also caught up in something much greater than themselves. What we forget about, "it's society's fault," is that every one of us is a PART of society. At the same time, going back to (in)determinism, it's also like a great machine... But, you know, as long as things constantly move and change, there's always the possibility that something different can happen!
@HeyCupertino
@HeyCupertino 3 жыл бұрын
Well done.
@penelopegreene
@penelopegreene Жыл бұрын
"America: A Shining City On A Hill..."
@rickyhunt4075
@rickyhunt4075 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic Video 👍 I have always felt the Shining was about the evil of humans resonating throughout the ages.
@nicholasbodo4327
@nicholasbodo4327 3 жыл бұрын
The ending of this Shining analysis would be right at home in a Aleczandxr video.
@EyebrowCinema
@EyebrowCinema 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not familiar with their work, but a glance at their KZfaq channel shows a ton of subs and views so I'll assume this is complimentary! Thank you :)
@nicholasbodo4327
@nicholasbodo4327 3 жыл бұрын
@@EyebrowCinema You’re welcome. Your video on the Shining is definitely my favorite of yours. I hope to see more videos on Kubrick from you if you can
@EyebrowCinema
@EyebrowCinema 3 жыл бұрын
@@nicholasbodo4327 I have 3 different Kubrick ideas, one of which being a pretty massive project that'd take me a long time, so these will likely happen.
@lordofhnajuty
@lordofhnajuty Жыл бұрын
Ok, that was good. I will never see this movie the same way again. Good work.
@officialrandomdude4503
@officialrandomdude4503 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video!
@EyebrowCinema
@EyebrowCinema 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks official Random Dude!
@JudoP_slinging
@JudoP_slinging 2 жыл бұрын
Great analysis. I never picked up on any of that even though it seems quite obvious in retrospect. My reading was always that Jack had some latent abusive side that was drawn out by the supernatural... I was missing a lot.
@edgarroberts8740
@edgarroberts8740 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice essay - interesting observation how so few people seem to pick up on a very overt feature of the movie. Don't know if you've seen Real Dimensional Pictures' video on The Shining, but he points a few more details that were clearly part of an effort by Kubrick to make The Overlook into a microcosm of American history and society. Regarding Kubrick's radically different interpretation of Stuart Ullman, RDP points out the character is actually made to resemble an American president. In the job interview, he's shown in a shot with a big star-spangled banner featured prominently on his desk, while he himself is dressed in a blue suit, with a red tie and a shirt with red and white stripes. Meanwhile, Kubrick changes Ullman's behaviour to be polite and well-mannered - very "presidential", you might say - even when discussing atrocities in his business's history. Also, on the film's brief allusions to racism that Halloran may have experienced, it's worth noting that the only black character in this movie is the hotel chef. He's a menial worker at a low rank in the hotel's hierarchy whose role is to provide service to rich white people on vacation. Finally, maybe at odds with your essay, RDP sees The Shining movie as giving Jack a struggle in his personal life a little different to that in the book. Basically, Jack is a victim insofar as he is lost in a mythical American dream. Notice the constant motif of the 1920s party, the Roaring Twenties being the time when ideas of a society where anyone can make it and you can achieve anything if you work hard were strong. Notice also how Jack ends up trapped in that era of time, frozen in the photo at the end. RDP also points out how Jack is constantly striving to make something important of his mundane life, and his loathing for his family is a case of feeling like they're in the way. Jack wants the caretaker gig so he can finally get time to start a career as a famous writer - hence why, when Wendy says they should leave and take Danny to a doctor, Jack isn't willing to take the chance something will go wrong in the hotel, because: "It is so fucking typical of you to create a problem like this when I have a chance to accomplish something! When I am really into my work! I couldn't do much if I went back to Boulder now, could I?! Shovelling down driveways! Work at a carwash! Does that appeal to you?! " So, yeah, TLDR, violence and oppression in American society is definitely a big theme to the film.
@gracieb.3054
@gracieb.3054 2 жыл бұрын
And white entitlement.
@gracieb.3054
@gracieb.3054 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, white male entitlement.
@iamamaniaint
@iamamaniaint 11 ай бұрын
Well said. Glad to see lots of comments understanding these subtexts. Granted I'm almost 40 and this film has been with me since I was 11. I've seen it countless times over the years and it's only recently that I believe I understand it fully.
@aaronhemme8913
@aaronhemme8913 21 күн бұрын
11:12 I have never thought of the psychic abilities of "Shining" go like that until you described it. The Shining is my favorite horror film of all time. I always thought the spirits of the Overlook were tormenting her. But when you shined (Pune intended) that information on that matter opened my eyes to that possibility. Also 14:33 that shot and his antics in this film cemented his role for the Clown Price of Crime eight years later.
@Oranjee1089
@Oranjee1089 Жыл бұрын
Danny nervously asks Jack if he would hurt wendy? no Danny clearly had an absence of emotions
@ErinJeanette
@ErinJeanette 10 ай бұрын
We also miss jack lies about knowing Grady and about the murders during the interview since when he confronts him in the bathroom he admits he saw him in the paper. And he says Wendy loves ghost and horror stories, but she doesn't even like him discussing the donner party.
@FireofGia111
@FireofGia111 3 ай бұрын
FINALLY. someone has the same interpretation as me
@stevepot
@stevepot 3 ай бұрын
Wow, I was thinking about making a viseo essay on The Shining but I wasn't sure if my ideas are correct or just overthinking And seeing some of the exact thoughts I had expressed in this video completely legitimized it Thank you so much 💙
@waylonjenninz
@waylonjenninz 3 жыл бұрын
Very good.
@teddyfurstman1997
@teddyfurstman1997 3 жыл бұрын
Your Halloween videos on Horror Movies are great! I do hope for next year's like Cinemassacre Monster Madness or something.
@emadSciFi
@emadSciFi 3 жыл бұрын
You're spot on about the Indian references! Watching the movie again, older and wiser, I caught on to how Jack is told that all the right people lived in this hotel, and what they boy is seeing with all his visions are the many, many crimes committed by these people in this place - the collective memory of the hotel, embodying the crimes that happened in America itself. When the family is going to the mountains where the hotel is, the son says explorers in this place in the past had to resort to cannabalism!!
@ThomasVanHoesenDeadpooliscool
@ThomasVanHoesenDeadpooliscool Жыл бұрын
Other details to support the theme of American hierarchical opression is that Ullman is tailored and looks a lot like JFK as well as the fact that he says the previous caretaker neatly stacked his family's bodies in the West Wing, which might be a coincidence but it really seems like it's a subtle reference to the White House.
@SA-gf3th
@SA-gf3th Жыл бұрын
40 years my man. 40 years. More than 4 decades.
@thor3279
@thor3279 8 ай бұрын
Great video and review. I find it interesting that when the movie came out, the "Indian Burial Ground" motif wasn't common, but then went on to be so overused (Poltergeist etc) that it's almost a trope now. When rewatching the film, the emphasis of this important subject I think Kubrick intended is almost trivialized.
@markwrede8878
@markwrede8878 9 ай бұрын
Shining is not seen as a visual, but it exists as intuition.
@lindasemple4687
@lindasemple4687 Жыл бұрын
Definitely a film about hierarchal abuse. From macrocosm abuse by the government/police/army etc to the microcosm of familial violence. Interestingly the stance Jack takes in the end photo is a highly symbolic one( one hand pointing up one down) , known to everyone who studies esoterica “ as above so below”
@jorgezarco9269
@jorgezarco9269 2 ай бұрын
Shelley Duvall did a good job playing a flesh and blood Olive Oyl in 1980.
@liberpolo5540
@liberpolo5540 Жыл бұрын
I sometimes wonder if Stanley Kubrick actually took the advice he preached ... *Stares in abuse to Shelly Duvall"
@p3rp351
@p3rp351 Жыл бұрын
This is the best analysis of The Shining I’ve seen, and I swear I must’ve seen about 40 different videos on it at this point. The connection between the conquest/genocide themes and the domestic abuse themes is spot on. The white mans burden and the burden of a family man are similar enough, brought on by himself, and the burden is guilt. While society can accept his history, Jack can not.
@incandenzahal
@incandenzahal 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant.
@jorgezarco9269
@jorgezarco9269 2 ай бұрын
Barry Nelson played James Bond/"Jimmy" Bond on CBS TV in 1954.
@janethayes5941
@janethayes5941 3 жыл бұрын
The Exorcist and this are the two movies that really scared me in my younger days.
@Petersonmgee
@Petersonmgee Жыл бұрын
You’re a fucking genius
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