In their discussion, host Anthony D'Agostino and guest Mitch Jeserich contrast traditional media against today's new, internet-based media, (nu-media?), considering which is the more trustworthy, and the strengths and downfalls of each. Mitch tells of conceiving of the Joker as President, saying it had to be Trump. Of Trump, they reflected on whether or not members of the media, and of the Left were overdoing the fear of fascism against the danger of not taking it seriously enough, and the consequences of each.