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High Density Planting for Fruit Trees

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OklahomaGardening

OklahomaGardening

13 жыл бұрын

(3/26/11) Oklahoma Gardening's Kim Toscano offers a solution for those who want lots of trees in a small space: high density planting.

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@Wesley22619
@Wesley22619 2 жыл бұрын
This was almost 10 years ago, would love to see those trees now.
@drpettinger5912
@drpettinger5912 6 жыл бұрын
Great video Kim. This is something Dave Wilson Nursery has been doing for years. It's called backyard orchard culture. They have tons of videos about it. One major point she didn't drive home enough is never let any of the trees get bigger then the weakest variety. In addition it is very import to insure the initial caliper of each of the trees is similiar
@dagobaker
@dagobaker Жыл бұрын
yea its rare to find videos besides DWN doing the ed lavio style of knee high initial prune
@samnjoeysgrama1
@samnjoeysgrama1 Жыл бұрын
Really excellent! Great information much of it new to me, and presented without a lot of chit chat. This should be a training video for everyone putting videos on KZfaq.
@powellgammill4265
@powellgammill4265 8 жыл бұрын
Really comprehensive coverage of high density planting method. Nice job!
@OklahomaGardening
@OklahomaGardening 8 жыл бұрын
+Powell Gammill Thank you for watching! We're glad to hear it covered the topic well.
@ToxicVaccines_HivHoax
@ToxicVaccines_HivHoax 6 жыл бұрын
Very informative video! 👍🌲 It would be interesting to watch footage of a few years later showing these or other trees that were planted using this high density method.
@scottpi729
@scottpi729 8 жыл бұрын
Crazy idea: If you are planting 3 cherries together, and you want the crop low and easy to reach, why not chop one off at 18", one off at 30", and one off at 42". That way each one can grow out in more of a 360 degree area, and each have more of its own height. Oriented with the short one in the south, and the other 2 behind that one. Like theater seating. Thoughts? (LOVED the video, btw. I have 3 bare root cherries waiting to be planted.)
@lisakukla459
@lisakukla459 5 жыл бұрын
That's a clever idea! Have you implemented this? I'd love to know how it turned out.
@4vinos
@4vinos 9 жыл бұрын
This is the most interesting video on high density planting I have seen. I planted plums and apricots approx. 24 inches apart and my neighbor said I didn't know what I was doing. I did this without knowing there was such a thing as high density planting. You are one of the few individuals I have heard that know what they are talking about and for that I thank you for making this video.
@OklahomaGardening
@OklahomaGardening 9 жыл бұрын
4vinos Thank you, we really appreciate that! Thank you for watching. And Happy Gardening!
@sharoncourt75
@sharoncourt75 4 жыл бұрын
Have they fruit out ok i am thinking of doing this
@kukana228
@kukana228 6 жыл бұрын
Great Great Great! Thank you for such a clear explanation. I'm saving your video so I can find it quickly to review. At my age, I need repetition. I've just started with fruit trees in my small urban garden. I have two in the ground and four more coming. Keeping my trees small for easy management is just what I want. Thinking through the tree planting position to allow the weaker tree to be south to get more sunlight is genius. It never occurred to me. Thank you.
@OklahomaGardening
@OklahomaGardening 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for tuning in! Glad we could be of assistance! Happy Gardening!
@bosquebear1
@bosquebear1 3 ай бұрын
You might add a caution when cutting back to be aware of where the tree is grafted so you don't cut it below the graft. Also, if your tree is grafted with multiple varieties already, not cut it back as you will lose the already grafted varieties. Great video with good information.
@cristianapricop5819
@cristianapricop5819 3 жыл бұрын
put the cut branches in some water - or wet sand to make roots and you obtain another 3 trees
@lisakukla459
@lisakukla459 5 жыл бұрын
I've seen a really intriguing technique implemented where two trees are placed in the same hole, with the trunks about 4" apart. The entire middle area, the part facing the other tree, is pruned away, leaving the two trees to sort of make up one canopy.
@sagerainwillow
@sagerainwillow 10 жыл бұрын
I love this method! I'm in Florida and just purchased my first home. I want to grow citrus fruit, but half the backyard is septic and drainfield which leaves me only a small area where the root system of the trees won't affect the plumbing. Thanks for the great tutorial. This is exactly what I want to do!
@OklahomaGardening
@OklahomaGardening 10 жыл бұрын
We're so glad it helped! Happy Gardening!
@scootin123
@scootin123 6 жыл бұрын
Who in the heck would imagine Oklahoma would have something to offer the entire nation but we viewers in Virginia have come to appreciate the gardening videos from Oklahoma State whatever
@OklahomaGardening
@OklahomaGardening 6 жыл бұрын
Even though sometimes forgotten, Oklahoma does have quite a bit to offer! Thanks for tuning in all the way from Virginia! Happy Gardening!
@scootin123
@scootin123 6 жыл бұрын
Boy you cut them things low . Last year's tree purchases I selected low branching trees and didn't lop them off as shown here, then watch their leaves turn yellow and drop off . IN DISCUSS I pruned several ( plum, 3 apples, ) to two feet in about August . An unstated benifits to looping them low is the phenomenal growth I get to see instead of not pruning them and watching them not grow and suspect that they are dying. Here in this video you explain that the new spring growth should be pruned one third and again one third of the summer growth. That I haven't heard from any other KZfaq instructor and I will certainly do that particular on the plum I bought last year that I serverly pruned now it has many small dia. But long branches that I intend to espalier. Per your suggestion I could prune them 1/3 now and one third in July or August. Maybe Dave Wilson nursey probably explained that frequent warm weather pruning but I only caught it from this video
@scottpi729
@scottpi729 8 жыл бұрын
Another approach would be to plant one cherry tree, and graft 2 other varieties onto it, and manage them for balance. Do you ever do that? I've been experimenting with some chip bud grafting with cherries and peaches and plums and almonds. Which, incidentally, could all be grafted onto a single tree . . .
@real_wakawaka
@real_wakawaka 5 жыл бұрын
special thanks to dave wilson nursery for coming up with the idea, i think they started the trend.
@melindalemmon2149
@melindalemmon2149 4 жыл бұрын
This"trend" is as old as civilization.
@rakeshchauhan551
@rakeshchauhan551 2 жыл бұрын
Waaoo great video mem . I am from 🇮🇳 india. Himachal pardesh (chamba)
@zigzagzarf
@zigzagzarf 8 жыл бұрын
freaked me out when you chopped the whole tree top off
@GrowFamilyNetwork
@GrowFamilyNetwork 5 жыл бұрын
That's a good informational video 📹
@OklahomaGardening
@OklahomaGardening 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for tuning in! Happy gardening!
@Tienganhmrtuan
@Tienganhmrtuan 4 жыл бұрын
I like your idea very much. I will try it as soon as possible.
@dawnamerphotography5776
@dawnamerphotography5776 6 жыл бұрын
Just wondering how those cherry trees are doing now. I am doing a high density circle in my little garden (less than half acre) and some one told me and a nursery that cherry trees hate being pruned so now I am having second thoughts.
@wendyaa4160
@wendyaa4160 4 жыл бұрын
super informative, thank you
@Rinsuki
@Rinsuki 10 жыл бұрын
She just wanted neat rows. You have plenty of room lady....
@TranceNotes
@TranceNotes 8 жыл бұрын
Kim: super video! I have two different semi-dwarf pears: a Conference and a Williams bon de Chretien). The maximum planting distance I have available at the desired location is only 10ft. Is it better to plant them 10 ft apart, or plant them both in the same hole? TIA!
@lazygenes
@lazygenes 8 жыл бұрын
Hey Kim, I am wondering how the three tree system worked. I am planing on using the same system for dwarf apples. Like a three legged stool, If they were attached to each other would they be self supporting? It would illuminate the need for a costly trellis.
@Lovenow8
@Lovenow8 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@xmcmannes
@xmcmannes 8 жыл бұрын
I have some young apple trees that I planted as bare roots two summers ago. They really haven't developed much and I plan on transplanting them to a new area in my yard and try the high intensity planting. Now, my question is: being two years old, am I still able to cut them down to 24"? I would hate to make that heading cut and accidentally kill them. What are your thoughts?
@alisonburgess345
@alisonburgess345 3 жыл бұрын
I had an apricot and almond planted about 2 metres apart and they distinctly leaned away from each other. i wonder if those cherries would lean starkly apart ?...
@adronlamb9334
@adronlamb9334 5 жыл бұрын
If the Pluot is a hybrid of plum and apricot, doesn't that also mean that they are pollinators for each other? I would expect maybe that some pears are pollinators for some apple varieties also. And that ornamental cherries pollinate sweet cherries? And that if a person lives in a neighborhood full of both fruiting and ornamental flowering fruit trees, two trees of different varieties are not always needed they just need to flower at overlapping time periods
@tom8181
@tom8181 9 жыл бұрын
May we have an update on these trees please?
@OklahomaGardening
@OklahomaGardening 9 жыл бұрын
***** We have since remodeled our gardens but when it warms up I will report on their production.
@jparks6544
@jparks6544 5 жыл бұрын
@@OklahomaGardening lol. because your stupid shit did not work. I could tell just by watching what you were doing. not a clue.
@tbluemel
@tbluemel 5 жыл бұрын
AWESOME video! Thank you!
@sharonslife6153
@sharonslife6153 5 жыл бұрын
I have some 1 and 2 year potted apple and pear trees with 1 to 2 inch diameter trunks. Should I cut them off knee high like you did for high density planting? I mean are they too big for this?
@sandyp998
@sandyp998 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I have just purchased a large cherry (over 7ft) and its trunk is quite a lot bigger than those on this vid. Would I still be able to cut back and have it recover well or will it be too much of a shock? Appreciate any help before I chop it. Very scary :/
@cyndismith4939
@cyndismith4939 3 жыл бұрын
I believe it is still possible. There are many videos on KZfaq on high density fruit trees.
@rickershomesteadahobbyfarm3291
@rickershomesteadahobbyfarm3291 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder how this looks now.
@johndowns7536
@johndowns7536 Жыл бұрын
Its 2023, how are your trees doing?
@qataghane007
@qataghane007 9 жыл бұрын
so where is the update ? it has been 4 years now you should have updated by now
@OklahomaGardening
@OklahomaGardening 9 жыл бұрын
Qataghane Bek If I'm not mistaken we don't have an update on these plantings and the gardens have since been redone in this area. We apologize.
@mvogelmeier1
@mvogelmeier1 7 жыл бұрын
can you please show me how to prune a braided apple tree?
@GrowFamilyNetwork
@GrowFamilyNetwork 5 жыл бұрын
Good idea ma'am
@davidharnden3914
@davidharnden3914 9 жыл бұрын
Last fall I planted 14 fruit trees in a row about 4 ft apart. I amended the soil with a lot of compost but not much composted manure because I didn't want to encourage a lot of vegetative growth. I have not pruned the trees to 18" yet. When would you recommend pruning them in the OKC area?
@OklahomaGardening
@OklahomaGardening 9 жыл бұрын
David Harnden When it comes to fruit trees you should wait until the last freeze, this is called the late dormant season.
@Retrocomputernerd
@Retrocomputernerd 9 жыл бұрын
I am planning to plant 4 trees in a similar configuration. The trees will be planted in mid November in mid Michigan. When would be the best time to make the big pruning cut to knee height?
@OklahomaGardening
@OklahomaGardening 9 жыл бұрын
We would suggest pruning during the late winter depending on what late winter is for you.
@hansgruetzenbach1228
@hansgruetzenbach1228 11 жыл бұрын
GREAT VIDEO!!!
@gweems828
@gweems828 12 жыл бұрын
Interesting thanks for posting.
@sangitagupta2393
@sangitagupta2393 4 жыл бұрын
Can Espaliering work with high density planting of fruit trees ?
@laneyopperman1218
@laneyopperman1218 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@jdogsbad
@jdogsbad 6 жыл бұрын
do you suppose I can plant 2 ing cherries without a pollinator ?
@spandir
@spandir 10 жыл бұрын
Hi, with 3 plants ( Peach/Nectarine/plum) in one hole how much total area ( Tree Canopy) they need to once they established ?
@OklahomaGardening
@OklahomaGardening 10 жыл бұрын
Here's a link that you may find helpful! Thanks for watching! www.davewilson.com/home-gardens/backyard-orchard-culture/high-density-planting
@lisakukla459
@lisakukla459 5 жыл бұрын
@@OklahomaGardening Wow, that's an excellent resource! Thank you for sharing!
@jasonleeman77
@jasonleeman77 8 жыл бұрын
make more video and cannot wait to watch it.......
@OklahomaGardening
@OklahomaGardening 8 жыл бұрын
+jason leeman We'll be updating the channel with our recent "Best of Oklahoma Gardening" today and tomorrow. Thanks for watching!
@sophiafunworldatthepark6740
@sophiafunworldatthepark6740 3 жыл бұрын
how is the garden now?
@69juamex
@69juamex 6 жыл бұрын
Do you really need that much space for the trees?
@SaraGarcia-cy8ug
@SaraGarcia-cy8ug 7 жыл бұрын
Can one do this for pecan trees or are nut trees different?
@espo1848
@espo1848 11 жыл бұрын
I was shock you plant 18" apart at least two feet apart.
@chrischambless
@chrischambless 3 жыл бұрын
Somebody has read Grow A Little Fruit Tree by Anne Ralph
@chocalatekid8024
@chocalatekid8024 Жыл бұрын
👏
@calebproductions5970
@calebproductions5970 3 жыл бұрын
Of course no follow up
@nou-nw8756
@nou-nw8756 6 жыл бұрын
nice nice
@Love4rap1991
@Love4rap1991 11 жыл бұрын
I almost cried seeing what you did to the plants :(
@ClickinChicken
@ClickinChicken 5 жыл бұрын
I screwed up with apricots in Minnesota. ha
@OklahomaGardening
@OklahomaGardening 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for tuning in! Happy Gardening!
@magicstix0r
@magicstix0r 9 жыл бұрын
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