Um, thats how it started. Production cars racing on sunday, selling on monday

I bet you drive something with a TV screen smack bang in the middle of the dash, with parking sensors , reverse camera and all the garbage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Grate video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@@markaylott1780 It may have started like that, but it's long gone...

@@darryllspalding5211 Hahaha , sooo correct , I had a GT shaker in the 70’s, about 6 years ago a fella took me for a mad run in one again. It was bloody awful, wandering all about the road at speed, all the door tops vibrating, the bonnet looked like it was gunna fly off, the noise was deafening. My how things have improved. I like my new daily driver, Ford Ranger thanks.

Run watchya brung, and hope you brought enough!

The young millennials would struggle to drive them.....no ECU....abs.....manual gear box....😱🤣👌

I feel ya its heart breaking. Nowadays the only things like this at all are shitty bmws and mercs. I was born in the wrong century.

Have a Lexus IS250 but love my old red 73 LJ GTR XU-1much more, that's tucked away in my garage. Only take her out for car shows. The baby still turns heads.

@@MrWeareone777 Just put yr address up please I’d like to see this torana ;-)

@@justdoesntaddup8620 DON'T do it 777

Check out Muscle Car Masters .

@@308V8HZ yes, they are excellent 👍

There would be nothing on track now LOL

the calibre of car could have been even faster if the skyline wasnt banned, awd commos and falcons with turbos and active rear steering, instead we got a mang mang

Yeah he almost ate that wall

No mate bloody best car ever made not like these electronic Falcons today if they get one little block sensor they don't work like Holdens and everything aloda of rubbish used the love watching Bathurst the battle between Holden and Ford was unbelievably exciting r i p Falcon Rust In Peace Holden🇦🇺👍😉

@@Bok2022st Yep !!! If I think my 78 HZ Premier don't sound right I lift the bonnet and there's the problem looking right at me . No technicians for me ! I have blue oval blood and inherited this car from my dad .

for sure, falcon only wins this battle with a hard drive

Falcon's heavier too, isn't it? More work to get it round turns but the power compensates. Torana really put the pressure to it though

@@Red_Beard2798 and longer wheel base (less g's before you break traction)

@@bigcazza5260 that Torana was working it's ass off through the corners and hard under brakes to stay in the race. Incredible battle though. It's so good to see drivers head to head giving one another the room to race

@@_jamesrose im a ford fan, i have 3 au falcons, same driver running lap trials my money is gunna be on the torana 9/10 times

Yeh you can tell the car is setup mint

What a sad old man.

@@NoTaboos = no brains 😂

@@chriswhite5846 Still in the primary school playground?

Aand who won that battle?

@@NoTaboos What a sad old man?

Yep, no sequential gearboxes, just good old manual, if you miss the gear or drop your clutch too early you would loose a few places in the race. I love this sort of racing.

Still manufacturer oriented, hideously expensive, and will belong to them without any chance for privateers. That's the FIA plan for most motorsports these days. Lost me with AWD, if they were serious, they would have 2WD, and which end drive you want, not another FWD only failure. Imagine a spec spacframe, manufacturers can run whatever production based, restricted 1.6T engine and 5 speed they want, and put whatever fiberglass shell over the top that is identical to the mass production car it represents. This opens the door for privateers to have an equal footing, and it will never happen because that's exactly what the FIA/Manufacturers don't want to happen, like it used to in the 70s and 80s. AWD fucked that.

@@markmark5269 Interesting, good points. I noticed as soon as guys got the early 4WD turbo cars the participation at a club level started to decline to the sad state it is today. The cost is prohibitive. I’m speaking about rally here in NZ, does that carry over to Australia (where I assume you’re commenting from)? Even at circuit meets like F5000 there’s bugger all spectators.

@@markmark5269 We had a go at entry level control series rallying with Gemini series and Excel series and both were quite popular but everyone gets a hard on over the more exotic and expensive stuff so you'd need to consider something like what you are talking about. Interestingly the driving skill levels in these lower level control series can be massively high.

I didn’t see understeer as much as more mass (vs Torana) limiting its transitional speed.

It's one of the best periods in racing! Unfortunately we've lost some of the tracks, the great cars are worth too much and of course times have changed. There's still some great racing across categories like IPRA and Sports Sedans to keep us entertained with cool cars though.

Couldn't agree more!

Oh yeah, we've got to agree!

I owned an XT-GT , XY-GT Shaker, HX-GTS a phase III GTHO a Z900 Kawasaki and an LJ XU-1, (some I bought damaged and fixed up) around two million dollars worth of vehicles in todays money. I worked out through the buying and selling over the years it all cost me nothing for all that fun , , repaired and sold for a profit , , , But if I kept them all , I could sell today for up around $1,600,000 - 2 million. Arrrhh well, what’s a million or so missed over a lifetime.

Because you did have the HO handling options

LJ Torana 202ci. inline 6

@@toda304 It was a lot of work for v8. Here in Brazil we have 230, 250, 268 and 292 ci, I love the straight six!

@@AleROAZ V8 351ci had a hard time , GM straight six very good ,good old days .

308 Tory me thinks V8 power!!

We had some truly beautiful cars on the road in our history. Unfortunate we don't get the same experience now!

Yeah, nope, that's not true. In fact, between 69 - 75 road deaths in OZ were north of 3.6k per year compared to 2023 which saw an increase of 7% on 22 with 1.2k. and the population has increased by 10 mil to add to the equation.

@@WascallyWabbitt Yeah generally road rules, road conditions, and policing are a lot better now than they were then, drink driving is seen as being way less acceptable than it was back then, and modern cars are designed to be much more survivable in the event of a crash than they were 30 or 40 years ago. But I still maintain that those of us who grew up learning to drive in the 70's in heavy cars with no ABS, no traction control, far less stable suspension, and relatively poor performing drum brakes, learned to be a lot more in tune with what a car was doing and then how to react correctly to regain or keep control in a given situation, in modern cars this is all done automatically by the cars systems not by the driver. I guess I'm not talking about the road toll in general just a certain aspect of it, if that makes sense.

Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching.

proud off?

@@NoTaboos wtf are you here for to rag everybody enjoy driving your Kia clown 😂

Just a few years later bond drove the 2 hardtop in the 1 - 2 finish at Bathurst, even with no brakes and a broken control suspension arm the toranas couldn’t catch them. By the way , no embarrassment being hounded by a Torana, they were ALL good cars.

What do you expect from a massive 4 door ? The Toranas aren’t great either, they still don’t handle good, at least with all the weight and power you can kick the rear out which is basically exactly what you need to do on low grip high power touring cars, it’s the same reason the Skyline dominated everything, it was heavy and powerful. It’s not the car either, Holden has almost always had better drivers but Ford knows how to build one hell of a machine, it’s the exact same with the 1976 season of F1 where James Hunt had a much worse Mclaren M23 than the Ferrari 312T2 but because he found his feet while Lauda sat in hospital, he won due to “ big balls “ and incredible driving, both were absolute unbeatable drivers but he managed to overcome his shit car

Have a look at the tyre sizes on them. The Falcon is way under tyred, it looks like it was running on bicycle rims - it actually sat flatter on corners, there was just no bloody contact patch. Ford Aus fixed that with the big guards on the next gen XA/XB/XC hardtops, but the damage was already done to their horsepower.

Another stupid comment comparing apples to oranges. Why can't you just enjoy Australian motoring instead of nit-picking.

Hahaha , I think the troll bot turned up.

those triple carby torana’s were just rocket ships

@@EnVyRe4per My mate had a yellow two door Lj, motor was built ,but had a 650 holly on it and 3 speed manual gear, all he had to do is put a 4 speed and tripple SU's and even without all that the thing was massive quick, meaning V8's forget it, back then which was around 1983 and we went down to lygon st, beat every single v8 car even us mustangs etc etc. she was timed at 12 seconds at the 1/4, with around 350hp at the rear tyres. Also was tuned back then a dany performance. 🦘🦘✌✌👍👍

70's

@@gogogeedus 70s what?

@@69VFVAL its a 70's model Torana,lj 1972 ish,and the xw falcon was released in 1970. OK!

Oh I see we're I went wrong. 70s not 60s. My apologies for that. But I do have alot of 60s race footage and I like to watch the way hustle those cars around the tracks of Australia especially tracks like Bathurst. I own 2 vf Val's. 1 is wild blue vf pacer original slant 6 with white stripe treatment and tan interior and the other is a daily driver 440 727 Dana rear. Both are good examples and I get a lot compliments

@@69VFVAL I guess they are on the border between 60's and 70's so I can forgive you :) and you have some cool cars,a mate of mine had a genuine blue 2 door Bathurst pacer with the white stripes down the sides and over the boot,triple webbers and three on the floor,it was a beast,he liked decorating the roads in the area with black rubber stripes.

That was Moffat's genius.... being easy on the tyres

Sure is, these guys were absolutely on it!

Well I love them all but I’m a Chrysler guy and I cop shit all the time about the chargers. I guess some folks are really one eyed?!

@@Tk-ou9ec yeah, I’m not that big on the new Dodges but I still appreciate them for what they are as performance cars

Having read a lot of the comments across many videos on the channel. Rivalry sees negative comment in both directions. One side isn't "better" than the other. Even though we'd love to see it and people enjoying pure racing for the spectacle it is.

The only Real car holden ever had was the torana.

Ford always had a much worse reputation for quality control in the general sedan market in those days.

Rubbish. They were designed and built to be family sedans.

We would have loved another ten laps of it as well! Video ends on the last lap of the race...