Please make a video about Bar Lev Line, costing around $300 million in 1973.

Heathrow's Expansion would be a great Megaproject.... if they can ever agree to do it. 😅😅 Or better yet, how about a video of ALL the proposed solutions to Heathrow's capacity problems? Some of the proposed solutions are simply wild!

Do megaprojects vid on Wembley station or the o2 arena

Fair few problems with this video, you only really talked about those who oppose HS2 and not those who support it. Your explanation of the cost and how the project is funded was totally inadequate! HS2 is being funded through bonds and not general taxation. You totally missed out the main benefit of HS2 which is to massively increase overall network capacity by moving long distance high speed trains off the current network freeing it up for local and regional rail. You need to speak to people like Gareth Dennis, rail engineer and proponent of HS2 to get a better picture! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/as2pZKp_pqqdiZ8.html&ab_channel=GarethDennis

6:23 i am seriously doubting that the usa planned the protests...

I heard that and went ‘That’s heavily racist, they wouldn’t name tha-‘ then I look at where I live

Another fellow Pie eater, Personally I live about a mile and a half from where hs2 is set to terminate up here.

I'm quite near the town centre myself. I believe it's merging near Golborne

@@kriss_b Yeah, between Abram and Golborne. It's due to take out a dog day care centre in lowton, that we'd use occasionally

Wigan Pier is Mega.

But there are no plans for tracks above Manchester or Leeds, so the HS2 trains will need to run on existing tracks to Scotland and thus sharing the network with other trains?

Most people don't care about the details or the facts. They have their prejudices and follow the misinformation. Look at many comments here. They don't want to know. They just want their biases confirmed. This video does nothing to dispel the mistruths either. Hence you'll get the constant parroting of lines like "It only saves 15 minutes, vanity project" etc.

Mitigation or litigation ..... either way, it don't come cheap any more

170bn of costs...okay pal. We just need you and all your HS2 train spotting friends to pay for it from your bank account. But by estimation you probably couldn’t afford a weekly shop from Aldi...you socialist train lover

@@jakehowie442 When traffic comes to a standstill, there is no space in trains and you can't get your goods shipped, how much does that cost? Much, much more.

@@jakehowie442 the published buget (in 2020) of phase 1 is £45bn that includes roughly £10bn of contingency, phase 2a budget of £4.4bn plus 36% contingency, phase 2b £28.7bn plus 36% contingency. Your given figure is very inflated.

The best time to plant a tree was 50 years ago, the second best time is now

Evergreen trees for Britain though...need greenery during winter

@@FrozenDung now would probably be a good time actually as they're better carbon sinks when growing if we move the trees from the ancient woodland for the chop along with the soil as was done with HS1 but interspersed then with saplings then they'd grow much faster soaking up more carbon.

@@jakehowie442 other than holly and Ivy, I don't think there are many native evergreens in the UK.

@@johnharrison6808 well John you need to plant this sampling’s and seeds give the UK what it needs evergreens

In my case, for a while. 💀

That would make him younger than I would have expected

@@charleshaynes815 33 or perhaps 34 by now I believe.

my bet ,it will never get done do you want to sit close to strangers on a trina after all this bs pandemic? just ike movie theatres things need to change think mini bubbles around each seat that after doen are vaccumed auto like and disinfected like a freaking car wash

No one will actually be able to know when Simon turns 50. One word: beard.

exactly. £100 billion on a train that will get us to london 20 minutes quicker. what’s the point? it takes a train from liverpool to leeds over two hours and it’s a third the distance between liverpool and london, which currently takes two hours. waste of money, especially when the nhs is chronically underfunded, there's a housing crisis, wage crisis, homeless crisis, care crisis. imagine what £100 billion could do for all of those things instead of a train.

Yes we need some sort of ... cross... rail project. I wonder what they could call it?

@@mouthpiece806 £100 billion that's forecast to bring in £150 billion... So that's £50 billion EXTRA that can be spent on things like the NHS or improving other rail lines after deducting the cost of HS2 itself. It's just how an investment works. Pay money in now, get more money out later.

£50bn for the NHS is tiny, it's only a 10% increase for 3 years vs £100-£150bn for a HS2 line that will be used for 120 years. I'd rather they spent another £50bn on a HS3 East to West Line.

@@Si_Vert that's $50 billion in profit though. Extra money that we wouldn't already have. Countries that prosper invest in their economies, even if it's costly upfront. I'd probably get more use out of an easy west line too... But the geography of the country means the major cities are spread out vertically, rather than horizontally. Hopefully at some point we will have a full high speed network (though it almost certainly won't be in my lifetime). But at least we can leave improved infrastructure and thus an economy for the following generations, as I wish people in the '70's had done for us (like other nations, rather than just maintaining some of the same antiquated old network and economy revolving around a single city).

While Simon buying his first flying car, the news announcement: HS2 has been finally finished. You can check where the first section goes through, all these long underground section screams over budget to me... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z8iboqqn3J_PknU.html

Except that he lives in the Czech Republic :)

The concrete alone is bad for environment , hs2 not carbon neutral for a century

@@jamesdeacon6810 hempcrete could be used

Actually Scottish independence may make the project significantly cheaper.

@@arctic_haze how’d you figure that one?

Everything north of London is T’up north

You want them to go over The Wall. They consider them wildlings in the Queen’s landing.

@@arctic_haze What facts to do you have to back up that random claim? You sound like a Brexiter who just makes up amazing claims. Typical Nationalism.

Jeremy exaggerated it. It's not around the entire island. Just a northern section

@@ryanwood93 It's still a huge project

@@ryanwood93 It costs 100 mil for 1km, and it's like 12-something km... If that's not an expensive project I don't know what is.

Wait what... theres a new grand tour?

@@SD-tj5dh Yeah it's called "The Grand Tour presents The Massive Hunt". It's kind of like a hour and a half special, like "The Grand Tour Seamen". On Amazon Video - go on Grand Tour and select Season 4, both will be there.

It started with just a few billions to 10 billions now. It will cost tax payers hundred of billion when the project takes decades to complete.

@Taiga I don’t think they “evict” they just dig up the entire house and move it out of the way

To be fair, most of china new lines run at a huge loss and were done primarily for the vanity of the chinese government. the UK lines, despit their cost, look set to actually make sense economically and run a profit.

@@alex29443 the cost of China High Speed Rail network including debt financing of public and private sector investment works out at around $45Million per km compared to the costs of both Californias HSR and the Comparable sized UK HS2 are running at over $100Million per km. Chinese Rail usage and ticket revenue has declined since outbreak of Covid-19 but is projected to grow significantly as GDP and disposal incomes continue to rise during coming decades. When and IF the small scale US and UK HSR project are eventually completed it will be interesting to see wether ticket revenues will be sufficient to pay debt interest on infrastructure investment let alone reach any meaningful level of "profitability"

@@Siempre1978 That's not true, they have been running on a permanent massive loss since before the pandemic. Except for a few operators in the densely packed costal region, they nearly all make huge operating losses, and simply don't and never will have the income to cover their operating costs. Spain has a similar problem. The fact is that high speed rail is too slow and too expensive to compete with air travel outside of a couple of very densely populated, highly urbanised regions (like Japan, costal regions of China, England and California). It is certainly true that they have a lower cost per km, but then they have no environmental legislation to speak of, their government can kick people off their land with virtually no compensation, and their labour cost is a fraction of the price, frankly I'm surprised they have managed to make it so expensive given that reality.

I have done my own video on this project now, it's about all the other reasons why HS2 is required apart from the really obvious ones! Check it out!

Depending on how fewer trains they would operate. Take too many away and people would refrain from using it for inconvienience. If you only have one line, every 30mins from London would be neccessary as it splits later on. At least.

By the time this fast rail project will be finished, people will drive electric cars and electric fan jetliners will be powered by hydrogen fuel cells, thus the whole ecologic argument for this rail project will disappear even before it's finished, but you will have your own white elephant railway project like Spain to show off to tourists, thus creating an image of a wealthy developed country with too much money to burn despite accumulating a lot of debt during pandemic just to be like certain middle eastern country planing to build Elon Musk's inspired high-speed railway for the sake of creating yet another tourist attraction like supertall skyscrapers, that will never pay off...

@@IonorReasSpamGenerator Railways are already electric powered, for years. Well ahead of electric cars.

@@Rule1ModelRailways Not sure how that's even an argument for some future railway project that will need to compete with these emerging technologies which are far more likely to happen in their full glory than some constantly reviewed project with likely increasing cost that will be dealing with the fear of being UK's copycat of "Spain high-speed rail success"..

I remember them building the M60 ring road around Manchester. There was a big dip we used to go past whenever we went into the city that would eventually become one of the junctions and I recall it being "finished" but not quite for years, presumably because the whole network wasn't all connected yet. It was kind of odd as a child seeing a finished new shiny bridge over a wide dirt track below.

So they're gonna spend this much money on something that they're just gonna need to rebuild in 40 years? And is that 40 years from the total finish time, or are they gonna have to start replacing parts of it 20 years after the whole thing is finished?

Cool remove the rail network entirely.

HS2 will exist primarily to free up track on the existing lines for local services and freight. There were a couple of references to freight, though none explained that HS2 is needed not to shave a few minutes off an already reasonably quick journey - that outcome simply is a by product of a more modern line - but to increase much needed capacity, and also take the burden off worn out infrastructure allowing it to continue to provide value. The existing lines are now at capacity so there are few local services and freight has to take a circuitous and costly route, meaning it is uncompetitive with trucking. The new line will improve things and give options for the future.

Just be clear, is HS2 meant to replace current networks? Are there plans to meet up East to West connections with HS2 rather than just North to South?

@@Guesswhokk eventually but not something that will happen overnight. A couple of decades at least before the full plans are worked out.

Lol

...but do you know how to say 'Solihull' ?

That moment? What moment?

@@foxkenji Did u get the memo? Of the moment? The memont?

@Tetahi Wikaire Ha. I can't believe a bloke who lived in England said it that way. The Brummie accent would almost be better...huuuuuum....hold on a minute... ;)

Mid roll

All of this was supposed to happen with the Eurostar. It was originally supposed to terminate in Manchester and would have bought all of these improvements with it decades ago! The yard for the trains is now used as one of the Metro Link tram depots.

European standards itself are smaller than Asian ones. UK's is even smaller

HS2 will be European GC gauge like HS1, but upgrading existing sections are extremely expensive for which you could simply build another high speed line

Old network still isn’t being replaced fast enough though and hs2 will reduce its revenue . There is currently no capacity issue and numbers down by 50% on some lines .

HS2 is so slow. China and Japan have far better trains

@@HaydenLau. When HS2 is opened it's line speed will be 250 mph making it he fastest line in Europe

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@@saifalik6226 🤘🤘🤘🤘

Yes, I think I would notice high speed rail and a tunnel under the Irish Sea

Isn’t Brittany in France considered the 6th Celtic Nation. Not saying he was referring to that but maybe.

The Celts spanned from the British Isles to Turkey.

Gallic refers to Gaul, Gaelic refers to Scotland and Ireland. All three are Celts.

Bit galling that.

I had a car like that once upon a time. ;)

That's nothing, try living in the Outback of Australia where it takes around a full day+ to drive to the nearest small Town and around 3 to 4 days to the nearest City.

Eh, at least you have roads! Living somewhere that can only be accessed by boat or helicopter is a different level of isolation altogether.

Try being Matt Damon, he’s on mars.

@@kristinehayes4885 do you have to carry your own gas in Jerrycans? (I'm not tryna be sarcastic, genuinely curious are there refueling stops out there?)

If you are electrified there is no reason you can't buy 100% renewables. If you are connected to the national grid then there are providers to buy from right now. Its exactly that sort of demand that helps fund new developments and get that national renewable figure up.

also if you get modern, comfortable high speed rail running at full capacity, that people use instead of a slow theoretically more efficient rail that people ignore in favor of even less efficient modes of transport it will result in a net loss of CO2 emissions even when it is nor powered by renewable. I get the cost argument, although i think a project like this is well worth it. The environmental arguments in this case are just retarded.

Nobody cares about french trains. Allegedly

Is it true that French trains have only one forward speed but 5 reverse speeds?

Then you could rather cover Kopenhagen-Metro, which already exists.

@@ptshyu2 The TGV holds a bunch of world records and has an operating average speed of 320kph. So, there's that. Insulting people doesn't actually make you look better.

@@Hamsterzilla1349 thats pretty fast in reverse

The joys of government contracts!

These days it doesn't surprise me. I live in Wales and will not see a single benefit from HS2... It's a way of not increasing the world outside London... just makes it easier to travel to London for work.

@@rhyswilliams4893 London is OK to visit, briefly. Or travel through to somewhere you actually WANT to be lol.

@@rhyswilliams4893 Whales to London will be HS3.

@@rhyswilliams4893 As someone living in Kent, I find it really weird that HS2 is completely separate from HS1. They won't event terminate at the same station, despite you can easily walk between St.Pancrass and Euston. And both stations are even oriented (most tracks leaving station are going north) in similar way.

You're kidding right?

@@ExplodingPiggy Nope. Please explain to me where I'm wrong - or was this just a fire and forget comment, deriding the obvious merits and facts of HS2 without bothering to actually do the research?

We need projects like this that actually is good for the environment v

@@josephharrison8354 this is simply a vanity project, the money should be spent on local, regional and national rail. Every line station and siding that was buried in the 60's could be reopened. As for being environmentally friendly the base work for this line has already destroyed several areas that cannot be recovered, not to mention buying newly built housing estates simply to knock them down. when it's eventually running it'll be so expensive that the average person will not use it. The virus has also fundamentally changed our society and working practices meaning the people that would use it no longer will. It was a stupid endeavor when it was conceived and should never have left the drawing board.

@@ExplodingPiggy Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong and wrong again. HS2 tickets will cost the same as current Avanti tickets do; the problem here is that you have no idea what HS2 actually is. Once the line is built, Avanti, or whoever's operating the west coast intercity network by that time, will drastically reduce intercity services on existing rail and basically move those services to the new high speed tracks, thus reducing congestion on conventional rail - the main problem currently with the WCML is that there are too many types of train all operating at the same time - commuter, regional, semi-fast, intercity and freight. Removing higher speed intercity services from the existing line will free up exponential amounts of space for slower services, which can be packed closer together because they're travelling at more similar speeds and stop at more stations. So HS2 will provide faster journeys and more capacity for intercity travellers, and exponentially increase services at intermediate stations along the WCML. In addition, London Euston is currently at capacity. There's no scope for more or longer trains to increase available seats without a major expansion of the station, and the same applies to the south section of the WCML as a whole. There would need to be a new pair of tracks anyway; why not make them the best? Which brings me to a question; what's your alternative? British railways are at capacity, and there's only so much that can be done by making trains longer or realigning sections of track. Every analysis shows that the only thing which would deliver capacity increases on the same level as HS2 would be expanding the WCML, which runs through and right next to built up areas, and would require major reworks of existing stations, which likewise are usually right in the middle of built up areas. Such work would mean decades of disruption and huge decreases in capacity until it was eventually done, and massive environmental and social damage due to needing to demolish woodland, farmland and buildings which are next to the existing line. HS2, for the most part, bypasses that, causing as little damage as possible, building stations in brownfield sites and redeveloping the areas around them. Again I ask the question, what would you do instead? How would you provide the same benefits in capacity without any of the environmental cost? Also, you mention Beeching; I have to say, this line of reasoning is moronic. You know what that would do? Increase congestion in terminus stations and make the rail network even more convoluted than it already is. There are certain lines which can and should be reopened because there's spare capacity and actual demand, such as the Border railway, which is doing rather well for itself. But even reopening every single line cut by Beeching would do nothing to address the underlying problem of congestion and complexity. HS2 does, by freeing up vast amounts of space on the WCML and allowing more stopping services along the line.

the 91/225 was a product of APT though? or did the 225 come from the 125?

@@LordInter The pendolino is more closely connected to the apt than the 225. But, either way the wrong train was on the video

Possibly, but that assumes the cost of the maglev project wouldn't also have similarly risen. The vast majority of large infrastructure projects cost more than originally envisaged.

Maglev is orders of magnitude more expensive than classical wheel & steel. It would likely be in the trillions if we had gone that route now.

Ah yes the "cheaper" option. Another decision well made I wonder how many MP's have fingers in the construction pie

Not true at all. Maglev would be more expensive and at the time the technology was an issue.

i will never understand, why no country has been brave enough so far to embrace Maglev trains as their main intercity train system!

I'm almost 70 and still have beard and hair all over the top of my head. Some of my other original issue equipment isn't what it used to be, but hey, those are old, used, parts.

@@fredericrike5974 I like how you're cheerful about it.

@@mwanikimwaniki6801 Would pissing and moaning about it make me feel better? FWIW, I enjoyed a great many of the events that have "aged" some of my original equipment- only smoking cigarettes would be left out if I were to get a "do over". I also have a cousin who was totally bald by age 25 explain that the hair had only slowed the rate of charge for is sex machine.

@@fredericrike5974 Bald by 25? Holy smokes. That seems surreal

@@mwanikimwaniki6801 Hey, who knows, my cousin may have been either on to something or just on something; none of his four wives and many girlfriends are talking!

A correction to your correction... Most of the mainlines were built as high-speed lines (only in the age of steam when what was considered high speed was somewhat lower). For years the world record speed for trains was set on the East Coast Mainline.

Yes, it also cost them dearly. The Japanese railroad company went bust under massive debts in the 1980s.

They started building high speed network in 1960s, Britain will have it done in 2060.

China has 11 times more than Japan now. And it's smoother than the Japanese.

@@fleyua7176 China's high-speed rail technology is from Japan

@@user-s45c No it isn't.

newcastle: what the fuck

building to wales won't be easy to the land, and they aren't really any big cities in wales, it's only going to London, Manchester and Birmingham.

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Sheffield: So, I can get from meadowhall to london a bit faster? Yeah, thats not bad I guess....HOW FUCKING MUCH!?

Probably because Wales is smaller then London (population) and GWR seems to doing well in Wales-England

@@PerryDaPlatapus can't agree with you more

What a hot mess that project is!

same for Controversy lol

How old is he now then?

@@thomascrimlisk8297 30/earky thirties I think

@@alexander1485 Apparently that is how they say it in Britain, he has talked about that before.

The way Simon said it is not the way we say it in the UK. Sometimes I wonder if Simon deliberately mis-pronounces UK place names to make up for murdering foreign languages.

Well, I think you have already started, but it has a REALLY SLOW construction pace.

At least you guys have a plan set in motion. Up here in the PNW we're just stuck fantasizing about it. I hate this country.

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Whoa which video have I missed on the zebra sex masks👀

@@kiwidiesel this one. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y7yUrdKgyLK-aaM.html

@@sandybarnes887 Legend thank you mate🙏

@@kiwidiesel u r most welcome

Geoff Marshall has done this I THINK. He covers lots of stations across the u.k and the underground network. Just search for the name or "all the stations" on youtube

Euston needs knocking down and rebuilding. It's a fucking horrific station. Getting off at that drab shit hole then emerging from the Tube at Waterloo is a massive contrast in what a terminal should and shouldn't be like.

@@TalesOfWar when it was first done up when West Coast main line was electrified they didn't put seats on the concourse because they stupidly though all trains would be on time.

@@vincitveritas3872 Trains? On Time? In the UK? Did we go back in time to when British Rail was a thing? HAHA!

@@PerryDaPlatapus yes due to Covid we have nationalised railway again

Obviously Newcastle, Durham and Sunderland just aren’t important enough.

Manchester and Leeds are over halfway up the country

@@TheSepticPizza I suggest you take another look at a UK map. This uses tax money from all of the UK yet provides no benefit to Scotland

@@panaxion it actually will take business and tourism away from Wales as estimates show. Get out as soon as you can. Wales, Scotland, and N Ireland need to leave this sinking ship

@@panaxion Yes it does. It cuts travel times from Scotland to cities south of Leeds, it lowers emmissions and if there is ever going to be a high speed line from Edinbugh to London then you'd need the track HS2 is building anyway.

You won't be able to get a train ticket. This is strictly for the nobs in parliament so they don't have to mingle with the commoners.

Think of a number and triple it

yep, it's cheaper to fly north. it's cheaper to fly south too, i have friends on the isle of wight and i might as well go biggin as do all the changes the train offers.

Rubbish the GC was NOT repeat NOT for the hard of thinking built to any continental loading gauge but to a middle of the road British one. It is usually reported by the ignorant as having been built to the Berne Gauge. However as the GC was built in the late 1890's and the Berne Gauge was agreed in 1913, there is an obvious problem with this belief.

You've not heard of the service that only transported dead people for over 100 years?

English please

@@louisbeerreviews8964 Sperdale :)

Yeah but the difference is that the people 'making' hyperloops are snake oil salesman.

@@kevadu Elon tends to refine ideas over time, first Tesla cars even the reliability of the 2012 Model S were rather miserable, while nowadays they are viable alternatives to ICE cars, same with early SpaceX rockets, Thunderfoot mocking of Elon's ideas goes a bit beyond pointing flaws as he may not truly understand the whole plan. You can argue if Elon shouldn't think about his designs a little bit more before throwing money on production or if he should ever show his rather moronic ideas for intercontinental rocket transportation or early propositions for underground tunnels for cars riding on e-wagons, but some of his projects need a lot of trial & error prototyping before becoming viable regardless how much time you spend in the office thinking about them beforehand, and you also need to show something to investors in order to get more money before business model become profitable (where purpose of his rather questionable visions likely come to play), so snake oil salesmen may be sort of name of the game for early adopters of new technologies but most of investors are fully aware of Elon's business model intended to eventually produce worthy products and generate profits even when this may come at the expense of early adopters that often got sort of snake oil products especially in the case of early flawed Tesla cars promoted with eventual self-driving just to find in manual in small print later stated otherwise. Personally, I think the low-pressure maglev design which evolved from the "original" Elon's blowpipe suction propulsion (principle tested over a century ago) is overcomplicated, but you can hardly go much faster than in today maglev trains in thick low altitude air without dumping a large amount of inefficiently used energy into the magnets, so you either accept additional complexity required for the low-pressure environment or give up on innovating trains all together and just buy newest Japan maglev designs which further upgrades will be likely mostly in room-temperature superconducting materials... You may not like Elon's approach but the fact is that many car and aerospace companies try much harder nowadays due to fear of being left out than they would without Elon's initiative and determination for progress regardless of some collateral damage in unsatisfied customers and his own reputation. I wouldn't want to be an early adopter of any of his newest yet unproven technologies, but you must ask yourself if life would be better without him, cheap satellite internet and acceleration of EV development will be his legacy no matter how much more mess-ups he manages to add up to his tarnished image..

@@IonorReasSpamGenerator That was quite the wall of text...also totally irrelevant since 90% of it was kissing Elon Musk's ass but Elon Musk *isn't making a hyperloop* so that doesn't really matter. He threw an idea out there, built up hype, then a bunch of other companies started getting funding to make shit that's...not even based on Musk's idea. Seriously, not a single company 'making' hyperloops is designing anything according to Musk's original paper, they've gone back to maglev which isn't even new technology. Which is not to say that Musk's idea was great an these companies are all dumb for not doing it. They're not doing it because they decided it wouldn't work. However there's still the fundamental question of what problem is sticking a maglev train in a vacuum supposed to solve? It can go faster, you say. Well, sure, but most high speed trains rarely reach their maximum design speed as it is today. And not because it isn't possible, but rather because there are practical issues that restrict it. One of the biggest is that the faster a train goes the straighter its tracks need to be. You have a larger turning radius the faster you're moving. This means you can't reuse existing track infrastructure if you want to go as fast as possible and acquiring land rights to build those super straight tracks is extremely expensive. Hyperloop does nothing to solve that problem. In fact it only makes it worse.

1960's - 1980's "But the shiny new car with the jingly keys that runs on tarmac which degrades in less than ten years. I need shiny new toys to play with don't I?".

Maybe Germany doing it so often is why there's less fuss? This kind of thing is a once in a generation type project in the UK. I kind of wished they'd begin things up north, or at least do them at the same time and meet in the middle as it were. The network up here is pretty terrible between the west and east coast. It takes as long to get to Newcastle from Manchester as it does Manchester to London, it's like a third of the distance! It's an even worse state up in Scotland. I get the idea in the long run is to reduce traffic on the more local lines but it confuses me why we have to wait for them to get the new line up here before we can begin on the local improvements.

We only have that congestion because of beechings axe, just build more cheap normal rail back where it used to be and give us in the north our interconnectivity back. Fuck London we don't want to go there.

Public infrastructure projects have to be *needed* and create economic growth. HS2 is neither.

And half the workers would be dead and all the local residents would be forcibly uprooted and sent hundreds of miles away from their homes!

Interestingly it's a the same companies who planned this global high speed rail link. I learned about this in school years ago.

@@tsu8003 wow it’s almost like you can make up anything about China and people will believe you

@Astolfo Desu yeah, because gentrification isn't doing that .

@@DJWESG1 hard to tell if you're exaggerating gentrification or if you're downplaying the doings of a totalitarian government for some reason.

If we live that long, LOL.

The east coast has Amtrak Acela. The west coast was planning something, so HSR in the places that it would actually work is probably going to happen.

US is not suited for high speed rail. There are thousands of civilian airports in the US, and everyone drive cars everywhere except for some very dense cities. Zero incentive for high speed rail other than to create jobs and stimulate some local economies

A pipe dream is an especially fitting name for the currently pushed flawed Hyperloop still under development indeed...

US have trains.. US doesnt need rail trains... It has alot airpot for long distance travel and even alot of trains actullay for mideum distance. It doesnt need to.. Maybay teaxes and california are a expetin beacuse they are very populat.

Doubt it as there is no Hyperloop in operation and it would cost 5 times as much as HS2. Not sure where people are getting this ideas of Hyperloops from, may me anouther Gerry Anderson Puppet Show Thunderbirds are go!!!!

You really think that thing can be built faster? lol And that it would have less opposition from locals and enviromentalists?

Thank you

This sounds interesting.

UK government spent almost £15 million on one mile of tramway in Birmingham city centre

Do explain.

@@TheMattTrakker No, do your homework.

No that will be for transportation of fish from UK famous fisheries.

Well it just costs me tax money for something me nor anyone I know will ever use . I'm not thankful at all.

@@avancalledrupert5130 You’ll have to pay tax whether this project happens or not anyway, so it really doesn’t affect you that much in that sense

​@@avancalledrupert5130 People said the same about the TGV in France Now you can get from Paris to Marseille for as little as €22

Yeah that one is going to operate around 500 km/h, something HS2 will never go at.

It’s laughable isn’t it.

300km is how much HSR track china builds in 2 weeks. I kid you not.

@@VarietyGamerChannel And here’s the England just plodding along. Embarrassing really.

Well in the 1800s the railway was the only form of fast travel, so it was essential to link the country. In the 21st century, there are other methods like air travel and freeways, so it’s isn’t at the top of the priority list.

@@dionemoolman I think because it’s costing billions of pounds, people expect it to be moving forward quicker, rather than at a snails pace. If you pay billions then you expect results.

Wouldn’t worry it will be cancelled at Birmingham. Purpose to connect and pull Oxford into a Greater London just like Ashford has become with HS1 where 25000 houses are now being built because it’s now commutable to London

Yep that makes sense. I live in the South East and can tell you that being excessively based around a large city absolutely stifles a town permanently, it doesn't improve over the decades. We don't need more commuter satellite towns in this country, shame it's happening in the North too. I do have what I think is a better idea than intercity high-speed rail that I've put at the end. So many towns in the area (especially those along main lines and main roads to London) are just so dead. Dormitory towns that are quite large but almost entirely housing without much of a town centre, businesses, jobs (especially decent ones) or anything to do for entertainment. It seems a town being more commutable to London just puts the property prices way up and does nothing to support business in the town itself. Just becomes a place for wealthier London workers to sleep. This makes the numbers look good on paper, convincing the government and public that these areas are doing fine and don't need investment. It would be such a disaster for such a thing to happen to a far more important place like Manchester or Birmingham! However, I do think that those places are too big and developed to be turned into mere satellites of London. But I do see the areas around the interchange stations on the outside of the cities turning into huge dead satellite towns like I described. Toton certainly will, since it isn't even a city. So might Crewe, and places on current main lines that link quickly into the network, like Wigan. And I don't think it will do anything to help satellite towns of Manchester and Birmingham - like Oldham. If anything, they're the places in the country that need the most saving economically since they've been left behind for decades. Manchester and Birmingham get all the public investment of the North put into them, they get tons of projects and are developing very fast, but the areas around them are ignored. Same as the London commuter areas except that more private-sector wealth does "leak out" from London because it is so rich, partly compensating for the absence of public investment. Large towns in the North don't have that and so are even worse. Sorry for the length of this comment. In short, I think it will help Birmingham and Manchester themselves, since they're already big and developed enough to hold on to their city centres. But they do not need help in the first place. It will do nothing to help, and possibly do harm to, the areas around them - especially the many large towns surrounding Manchester. And those places do need public investment! I support high speed rail, but not the lie that it will help the North. More money should go to improving links *between* large towns "horizontally" in the North West and South East. Then there will be economic benefits from those towns economies being more closely linked, and less draining of their economies into the top 5 cities. Cross country type rail lines are so bad compared to lines going into London. I think it would do loads to help these towns develop if they can link to each other more quickly and conveniently. And that doesn't require new lines, let alone high speed lines. Even halving journey times could be doable without new lines in some instances. Electrification, removing single-track sections, replacing old or small trains, raising speed to the 70-100mph range typical of London commuter lines, more semi-express services that don't stop at every village, and some instances of re-opening closed lines (Beeching shut non-London-facing lines across the entire country - some have been crossed by a road or two, at most a housing estate here and there - but short diversions, bridges and tunnels would fix that and still be much cheaper). That would be no cure, but would be a good relief of symptoms, for many medium-large towns that have been or are being bled dry by relative proximity to a huge city and lack of investment.

Also, a completely separate idea, but since it's extremely slow or impossible to get from one side of London to the other (or even just 90° around London in any direction except SW-NW) without going through it. Paris has the railway equivalent of a ring-road, which I think is a good idea. Divert more people around London, to reduce congestion within London and also reduce the strong discouragement to traveling anywhere that currently requires going into London and all the time and effort that means. There is/was a plan for this but it isn't a great one and only a little part is being built (though that part is from NW-NE which is the worst part currently so should the priority to improve).

I don't know why cities don't implement circular rail and bus routes. It seesm that the most sensible layout for a city wide mass transit system would be a star shape with an outer circle line. I don't think HS2 will kill Manchester but I don't think it will necessarily attract the kind of inventment we want. I think Birmingham might have a worse time of it because a 45 minute train ride is not an unreasonable commute so there's a bigger chance of Birmingham just becoming housing for London workers. I could name a lot of infrastructure projects that would be of more value to the North than HS2 including a direct, electrfied rail route linking Hull and Liverpool (paralleling the M62). A second trans-pennine motorway (complete the M65). Widen the M6 like they did with the M1 (the M6 has always been the busier of the two because it not only serves Coventry, Birmingham, Stoke, Liverpool, Manchester, Preston and Lancaster but it's also the only major road link to Scotland, so it also serves the Lake District Glasgow and Edinburgh via the M74. We don't need links to London to attract investment, we need local infrastructure. London needs links to the rest of the country to attract workers, that's the real truth.

Who'd of thought that would happen? It'll be Manchester next. Seriously though northerners can see this crap from 100 miles away because we've been burnt so many times. There were people saying this would happen when it was first announced.

Which is pretty stupid given that the current route between Leeds and Birmingham is that bad that give or take 10 minutes it takes the same time as Leeds to London does.

Well yeah that’s a byproduct of democracy.

Probably because our government are the biggest cheap scapes.Lmao

here's the truth though, Chinese construction are limited in the sense that they can't adapt to the environment of every country. they bid cheap to win the contract but a lot of problems arises during construction such as safety violation, environmental damage, lack of preparedness, sloppy construction. as a result, forcing delays after delays. that's why no country wants Chinese trains.

Easily.

Because the CCP can bulldoze, literally, over any opposition like they did in 1989.

Hyperloop wont have any windows. And seeing the small distances, the acceleration and deceleration would be a knock out for all pessangers if you want to reach the predicted top speed of hyperloop. And last hyperloop is just a development project and nowhere near it's predicted capabilities at the moment.

No its a new Railway, and a hyperloop whatever that is would more than likely cost 5 times more than HS" as no such transport mode exists.

@@sebastianmuller1210 Been on a plane a few times in my life, the acceleration and deceleration has never once caused me to faint. Hell, astronauts don’t even faint on a rocket ship going to Mach 1 in a matter of ~40 seconds straight vertical. But, there was once a time it was said steam engine trains that couldn’t top 35mph were too fast for humans. We’re really not susceptible-to-speed-injury creatures, though it does confuse me why so many people think we are.

@@cameronf3343 my calculation for the knock out is a top speed of 1200 km/h. So to get that fast and stop again in this little distance the aceleration and deceleration must be really strong. You are right, we thought going faster then horses would be sickening, and rockets can get pretty fast. But going to 1200km/h and stop again in a matter of 200 km or something like that. Imagine going full speed all the time, the journey would only take 10 minutes. Perhaps 5 minutes is enough to accelerate to 1200 km/h without a knock out... Ok I agree on your point now.

He definitely mentioned this somewhere in one of his videos. I remember him talking about it.

Im pretty sure that's in a side project video

@@MineZilla123 then the KZfaq algorithm is broken. I have already watched a lot of Simons videos, so they often show up in my feed. But yet when I search eben emael, I can’t find a video made by Simon. And I would certainly have watched that one, because I live in Belgium, 30minutes away from the fortress...

@@kristofsportingdogs3549 the YT algorithm is not as weird as facebook but it's definitely not the smartest. Video on Simons TIFO channel kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gK6BY7emq5-sdps.html

@@mulgerbill thanks 😊 👌

So? Do you have any idea why they can build it so cheaply and we can't?

@@JohnnyZenith standardization, mass production of specific slabs that is the first in the world, research and development and a massive amount of planning. All the standardization lowers cost. China's geography is immensely hard to work on, and China's tracks and trains can work across the differences in weather there, the Japanese one cannot. Cheap labor alone will not fix those issues.

@@fleyua7176 Couldn't have said it better

@Yong Zhou The Chinese have perfected it so well partly because they have made it an industry...

@@fleyua7176 You are missing so much.