99% equity fold

What does that even mean? Have you played poker?

yeah that call was insane...i think the main reason ivey called is because mercier looked like he was on a squeeze play preflop

True

@@OKG2000 Yes, but the ALL-IN doesn't even add up TBH. When you get raised with AA OR KK on a board like that you should slow down thinking SET, not go all-in and if you have a set, you sure don't go all in, so Ivey put him on AK or 88 JJ type hands, and he beats most of those hands, and JJ like AA or KK probably slows down there. Also, there is not a flush draw on that rainbow flop. No jam made sense there TBH.

He could've had 9x though, hes an amatuer.

She was probably hoping he made an amateur move with 9s. Too bad Doyle folded before the turn, would have tripled up the guy.

absolutely, paused instantly after that and came here to comment that! TERRIBLE to watch! he couldnt even wait to get the chips in and hes a super conservative player.. no game sense! "he played that well" not HE DIDNT! wtf are these guys above me talking about?

Is that Norm MacDonald calling the game? Sounds exactly like him

@@eattabagovdix7169 yes

yeah, the biggest winner in the history of the game saying he's got one on the board lol

He did say he was card dead until this hand.

Winning "almost 350k" ? Bro he won over 400k

@@seankiesling2054 there was probably a side bet he collected on, because he's Doyle Brunson

@@LIONTAMER3D no, he saw under Doyle's name where it said "all-in 340,000" that's how much he had left by the river

Who is norm?

@@MrAllen1994 Norm MacDonald. He was a comedian, old-school SNL cast member, and the commentator for HSP season 7. Very funny guy but apparently had a huge problem with gambling.

Norm was the best at everything he did. Makes me sad hearing his voice.

@@defer114 That, and Cancer. He had a huge problem with cancer

Running it twice or even 100 times does not make a difference in the long run at the end youre even in money

he commentated golf as well, a couple times at least. the 'ole chunk a coal was an eccentric fella, that's for sure!

💀

Ivey never runs it twice or whatever.....he likes blood on the table. LOL

@@CribNotes Never?

@@fanfan7848 I've never seen Ivey run it twice on a TV cash game.

@@CribNotes me neither

The kind of knowledge only achieved with decades of poker knowledge and grinding. He's so amazing. I still can't believe he knew that aces would probably win there

@@bobbywhite1645 I am billing you for a new sarcasm meter cos you broke mine😋

He knew that because he wasn’t all losey goosy and eating a sandwich

@@bobbywhite1645 Daniel graduated with honors from the Norman Chad school of Poker,.

@@bobbywhite1645 well youd better believe it. Mm?

''You have King high?? i got two Aces''

@@OKG2000 yea thats probably gonna win

This season got ridiculed alot, but i do like it

It's Norm MacDonald.

@@mysteriousdoge1298 Norm McDonald is J9o.. Gabe Kaplan is AKs.

Yeah, I've never been impressed with her... typical lesbian thinks she's always got something to prove around men.

Sometimes with high pocket pair you feel like you have to win so you pull moves like this

Yeah that was just terrible. I mean he just couldn't wait to get his chips in there out of turn.

Out of turn min-raise from OMC. 33 is the absolute bottom of his range there.

Exactly

Well he won and Phil H turned his back to leave. So of course he is going to grab the money he won. I would of assumed he was going to take off and start cursing. Not much of savagery there.

@@misterclownface Yeah, somebody might have stolen it.

he was taking it in case Garrett Adelstein turned up and asked for a refund

@@antzooma hahaha

@@misterclownface Hellmuth looked too dejected, especially with that table of guys seeing him get cooled like a icicle.

the stupidness oscar goes to ...BONETA

Indeed, Hellmuth got unlucky that he was up against a better flush draw. Mercier's bluff put Ivey in a tough spot and may work sometimes.

Just a 4 bet or a nybr but still by far the most ridiculous play. Not even waited to have a backdoor fd to make that ridiculous play.

Unfortunately they had him on a such a tight leash though, he was so safe and toeing the line, that it ended up making it hard to listen to by the end. It was Norm's voice, but it really wasn't Norm at all. It was more like someone reading a cookie-cutter script in a Norm impression. They had a such a goldmine fall into their hands and they completely wasted the opportunity by neutering him like they did. I honestly don't know why they even went to Norm in the first place if they were not going to allow him to be even slightly himself. The commentary went downhill rapidly when they split the Gabe/AJ dynamic and, unfortunately, it kills me to say it, but it went even further downhill when they brought in Norm to do it. He honestly could have saved the entire show if they just let him be Norm. Instead, it died immediately after.

Gabe Kaplan was the most boringest commentator I ever had to listen to though. I really loved his sense of humor sometimes, but he always sounded SOOOOOO boring and monotone. Gotta admit, I didn't even notice Norm at first. But of course, when I read these comment, I recognized him. I agree, I think they should have let him speak more freely.

"Ace of spades, prettiest card in the deck". Gotta love Norm.

You can find all the episodes on KZfaq.

It was the hypocrisy that ruined it... The producers didn't own doghouses and worked under a bridge.

Lol his reaction was priceless

Agreed. Biggest punt I've ever seen

I can't believe the guy who limp-raised to 30bb preflop then jammed in 50 more into multiple people on the flop actually had a hand and didn't fold to a shove getting 3-to-1.

Johnny was getting about 2.18 to 1... He'd need to win 31.5% of the time to call. (Against a set, aces would win 8.9% & tie 1.6% of the time anyway.)

150k In pot goes all in worth 200k erm... i can see he was trying to get just under double his money back.

It was ugly. I think that Boneta one was even worse as Chan raised over the top into a crowd of like five people. WTF is that guy doing going all-in with King high after that much aggression.

goes to show even one of the best tourney players makes mistakes

@@spittlefish5208 honestly can't tell which is worse lol.. has to be Selbst.. Ruffins couldn't keep a straight face if his life depended on it.

@@spittlefish5208 LOL true. And he didn't just raise over the top pf, he LIMP raised over the top lol😄

@@spittlefish5208 boneta one was stupid. He could've called and then represented set. He didn't even have runner flush draw lol

That's actually what separates the pros from the amateurs. Amateurs, like myself, either win or go home broke. This is why I've confined myself to just watching, I have no control of my emotions.

Phil is around today thanks to his child attitude which gives him (sponsors) free-rolls in every tournament. Hes a complete donk in cash games and one of the worst online players in history. He has lasted because he dosent put up his own money. If he did he would be broke. Divide his cashes 24 mil by # of years played 33 and u get less than a mil a year. Now subtract the millions lost in cash, the 10s of millions on lost tournaments, travel $, and Phil would b living in a box. Phil Hellmuth, the Patron Saint of Idiots.

@@Kennedysports90s Jeez, Antonio Esfandiari. I said it's one of the reasons. ONE of the reasons. But I'll tell you what, Antonio, Phil beats exactly people like you who have such a big ego and think he's such a fucking idiot you'll call him down to the River with third pair on a wettest board because you cannot bear the thought that you could get bluffed one time by someone who you think is lame.

I do not agree with this comment. A true professional should be emotionless after losing hands in which he did the right thing. If you are actually playing bad and making terrible decisions, that's the time you walk off, not when you get coolered one hand.

@@Kennedysports90s are u nuts? Donk in cash games? Isn't he 7-0 against Daniel N and Antonio E ? They both played him 1 on 1 to shut him up, correct? So what happened? I despise phil but for you to say some of that stuff is STUPID!

I miss that old chunk of coal.

HE'S NOT DEAD

@@ImNotNormAll I keep a pie on my windowsill just in case he'll come back for it.

@@AKing43 😔

There's numerous credible accounts Norm was terribly inappropriate toward women

absolutely tragic. says he was repping a set but he almost always flats a set there to allow chans bluffs to stay in. just tragic lol

Vegas and the Mirage was the only thing on his mind

Boneta did the best move he could ever do. Give his chips away to someone who actually knows how to play😂😂

@@AcesHunteRRR yeah Chan played this like a true pro. Flatting the original raise was risky but I guess his instincts told him Negreanue would squeeze BB a bunch and he's good enough to fold his hand if the board comes sketchy and players start piling money in the middle. Also if he hits a set no one will ever put him on AA so credit to Chan for setting this up

The funny thing is that laak hand was close to face up. Flat's and see the pot odds to flat smiling knew he was putting 21k just to flop a set. In that spot 3's or 2's doesn't change nothing and could be a monster pot for Laak.

That wasn't Norman who said that.

@@AKing43 you are mistaken .. it was norman who said that 20:13 this is definitely norman's voice and he is the only commentator on that segment

Its really not a bad idea though, it doesnt change anyones equity

@@paulg6274 I don't think that's what Norm meant. Norm was basically saying that anything Selbst suggests is always going to be a bad idea, since she's such a known punter.

Bad idea that she even plays poker 😄 all the clues was there and she still ignored them

i had to google it. I had my doubts but I'd recognize that voice anywhere.

What? I dont know his comedy routines but he was atrocious as HSP commentator.

I had no idea. I thought you were kidding at first.

@@ajlib How dare you besmirch Norm Macdonald. You sir, are an old chunk of coal.

@@ajlib Wrong you I feel like you just don’t get norm.

I can't believe I didn't notice that was Norm MacDonald announcing the Selbst/Ruffin hand!! Never knew he announced poker.

"He might not know what running it twice means, but he knows if Vanessa asks it's a bad idea." Such a legend. I'd love to find more Norm poker commentary.

That was The Big Game, er sorry the big PUNT

Boneta straight up punted 200k with K high sir.

@@ep3578 ah, my bad

most are coolers. only punts in the video is guy with A5 (tbh it depends if hes doing it for value or as a bluff. if its for value it's terrible, if it's as a bluff I guess it's only... bad?) but the KQ is straight up an insane punt.

@@LucasLincolnn Vanessa was a terrible play because the guy with the set check re-raised early without letting Antonio even decide. Hers was almost as bad as the last dude with KQ. Guy making the A5 play was really a good play. If Doyle hadn't been running so poorly for most of the day, he probably doesn't call there.

Jason “I wish I waited for Aces” Mercier

That play was still superb. Even when called still has decent equity, back door flush, A high and inside straight. Ivey was running like God that season. That Boneta hand was painful to watch.

@@lukamilas8648 yeah some of the plays here are pretty legit. Jason's play is the best. Ivey should have never raised that flop. He almost got bluffed off.

Still a great play though judging by Ivey's reluctance to call I'd say it almost worked.

@@KROGANLovesKittensAndPuppies Who knows, it may have even worked if Mercier had another $100k behind and Ivey wasn't getting 3:1 on a call..

Just absolutely nothing on the flop 😄 did he just wanted to go home or something.

@@richard7645 nah i respect it. It’s the Isildur1/Durr way to play. When you trust your read you just go with it no matter the “optimal EV” cards to wait for. That’s poker as it was back in the 19th and early 20th century,,, sliiiick.

Insane lol

@@jackbrady9738 trust your read? Chan was shouting AA from the rooftops in an era where people would still limp/3bet AA. If chan isn't calling without a set, he'd never be able to defend vs a single shove on that flop.

@@WhatAreYouNew i was saying i respect the time and that style of poker where they just trusted their gut instead of thinking like a bot autistic

Couldn't believe how weak Guy's hand was. Jamie was shocked.

Yeah that was a poorly played hand.

so basically you have no friends

Bro it's literally the same % whether they're super ahead or super behind, 87% is 87%. By running it twice you are halving the amount of variance i.e halving the amount of hands you have to play to "realise" your expected value

@@jackbrady9738 i just read an article that says whether you run it once, twice or ten times your odds stay the same. It said running it twice is like playing the one hand today and running into the exact situation tomorrow. So it seems youre correct. My question is how/why? I cant remember the hands and dont want to go back through the video so ill just use this as an example. Say Player 1 flops a flush draw and gets it all in. Player 2 calls. They decide to run it twice. Player 1 obviously has the 9 outs to hit his flush and win. He bricks the first board. Would his odds of hitting a flush on the second board not go up bc he has those same 9 outs with 4 less cards in the deck? I dont see how that can be the same as playing the hand today and again tomorrow bc the underdogs odds to hit his flush go up on the second board. Right? Im generally curious on why this isnt the case so if you have the time could you explain it? Because in my mind running it twice always gave the underdog better odds to win bc he has the same outs with less cards in the deck.

@@mydogniko i never thought about that. say it came the opposite however, and the flush hit 2 of their cards. when they run it the second time they only have 7 of their outs remaining. so i think it evens out- im not sure though, you may be right. great thinking

@@jackbrady9738 youre point is valid. Thats why when its a flip or 60-40 i can see running it twice. But i always thought people did it for 2 main reasons. 1- to keep it more friendly. Most of these guys are friends and losing large pots suck and 2- so if the person ahead does lose on the first draw, variance says he should win on the second draw and they chop. Its a way to ensure getting sucked out on doesnt screw you over. However, my point is dont you want to get it in as a 4:1 favorite? If you lose you lose but why give the dog a second or 3rd chance to chop, when each time running it betters his chances? Thats how ive always seen it. All that being said youve seen the video where hellmuth runs it 4 times against the amateur guy that doesnt play well right? Cant remember his name. Hellmuth lost 3 out of 4 when the guy had like 5 outs total or something crazy. One of my favorite videos bc everyone just eats into Phil lol. Edit: Hellmuth vs Ernest Wiggins is the clip i was referring to. Just popped up in the YT algorithm.

@@mydogniko I'll give you an example. Let's say we're betting on dice, and it's impossible for the die to land on the same side more than once. If you need it to land on a 6, and I say we roll it 6 times, that means I'm guaranteed to win 5/6, and you'll win once. If we only roll once, you could win and although you're a giant underdog.

J7

This makes no sense. Vanessa always punted? Yea she definitely made a bad play here but your kinda speaking out of your ass. Your saying that probably based off the J7 hand and this, maybe a few more, but that didn’t “destroy everything”. She “controlled her game” enough to make over 11 million dollars, stays the #1 top female poker player and now works for a large investment management firm. Pretty ironic how your name is defeat ignorance, because that’s literally all you just shit out over your keyboard.

@@Andrew-yu1vt who hurt you

Being overly aggressive jump started her success, and eventually caused her to crash as well. Being too aggressive rarely works out, in the long run.

@@Andrew-yu1vt white knighting for a chick married to a chick. Simp city

And off the felt they are worse. Small stakes for some of those guys there. Millions in swings online and 3k6k plo they played regularly in 2009. Utter disrespect is putting it mildly.

To play optimal poker you have to play with total disregard towards money, otherwise you either be a nit or some abc player.

Why play with money you can't afford to lose?

LoL!

he deserved it, not 3betting QQ

@@donkilluminati9984 qq a great hand to trap

@@KrolKaz he got to be on TV

You wanna run it 3 times?

Ha. Well summed up. That one will haunt him to the end.

@@VicenzoV 094

Guy is a better player than you think... just ask David Benyamine

Guy could lose 10 million in that game and not care

@@antzooma 1 million is like 10 dollars to him

@@user-sk4wf3ve6z thank you for repeating what i said back to me

My problem is when I say "I guess you got me" and still call they usually have me 😂

You work for his tribe . Freedom from the sky.

He knew he was massive though lol

It had nothing to do with being generous. Chan didn't want the variance risk of Boneta getting lucky on him. Then after offering to go twice he realized that if he just went 3 times, he could pretty much bank a 90k profit minimum everytime, as Boneta will never get 2/3. He'll still usually win it all, but this way he guarantees himself a big profit on the hand.

I mean I agree but she didn’t really get schooled here that was just a cooler. The guy doesn’t really know what he’s doing he’s just a huge stack billionaire, he would of done the same with tens or jacks and doubled Vanessa up

If she wanted to represent the nuts she shouldn’t be talking or thinking for so long.

she always took her tournament aggression putting noobs in a tourney life decision into the cash games against pros i never understood it, it never worked.

@@ThatsTheWun That was in no way a cooler.

That old chunk of coal has turned into a diamond.

Not just that, after that initial bleeding of the stack, he somehow lost minimum against nuts v sec nuts. Then, this happened. There is no way anyone is not going broke here.

Lmfao great analysis

@@vishrantgoyal8225 actually yes there is...hellmuth should have folded preflop

Yea that second clip wasn’t really a fail that was a ridiculous call

@@tylerbehrends3304 what is it you believe you said 'yea' to?

He agreed Ivey made a tough call and said it wasn’t a bad play by hellmuth both reasonable comments watch video before you comment

@@RassionellMaddman What's wrong with you??

​@@scrapplepignot much, what's wrong with you?

She makes Hillary Clinton seem likeable.

Pretty sure VS not in this video. You mean Doug Polk?

Lol she's the most annoying human in the world.

She has such a sour looking face.

I call it the lesbian complex!

Ivey made the call in 30 seconds. He's not human

that one is not a punt

Most people with 9s wouldn’t play it like Ivey. He induced that bluff.

bluffing into the best player on the planet IS a punt

@@LIONTAMER3D It's not like Ivey caught his bluff and called. It was a weak call. He even said "I guess you got me". It's just that Ivey was up quite a bit by that point. So he decided to see Jason off.

@@Stringfreak it's a three-and-out PUNT!

@@LIONTAMER3D it's 2021, there are teenage villagers in peru better than ivey

@@imranhirani5017 i bet you know all about teenage villagers in peru

It's not a punt. Gus just played the hand horribly.

Also a lot of good bluffs and then catches

what information is he conveying exactly? That he enjoys rye bread?

Love it!

@@TP_Gillz Rye bread is known for strong hands in the future. If it was wheat... I'd call his next bluff

Welcome to Ivey's world! haha

Does ivey wanna run it twice 😆

hahaha, yes, it's so funny to watch him prepare his move with his pro stare to phill laak.

It most likely kept him in.

Talking of word usage, can some lip-reader tell me what Daniel says at the end of _"folding this hand would be a complete....*******"_ at 2:09

@@TonyEnglandUK I don't know why but it kinda looks like he says "folding this hand would he completely retarded" remember this was back when you could get away with that

@@mikeyslots_ I think you nailed it, thanks Mikey

Her trying to convince herself the guy, who was so excited he acted out of turn, was making a move really reminded me of myself like 10 years ago. Dusted off a lot of stacks trying to convince myself shit that there is no way on earth is happening.

With mercier I think the best play is to call ivey's raise bcz you are never going all in with any of the over pairs in case ivey is raising with some stupid hand bcz there are literally no draws on that board other than 45 which mercier blocks. The ruffin hand is not a punt I saw him making crazy stupid plays all over the episodes. he is the kind of guy that doesnt fold top pair. So with an overpair as played you have to go broke in that spot.

@@omarjaved6087 he acted out of turn, its a punt

Selbst was biggest punt imo .. He acted out of turn because he loved his hand so much... She should have been good enough to let it go

@@onedayatatime007 I don't even understand how he acted out of turn. If Antonio had checked originally and Ruffin bet then I'd understand him not knowing Antonio was in the hand. But he literally called a bet from Antonio. Did he forget how his $17k got in the middle in the first place? lmao

Selbst

Says the guy who isn’t main event champion 😂 😂 😂

@@lkb4781 How do you know I'm not Hellmuth or Brunson? Now I'm thinking you're actually Jamie🤣🤣🤣

@@lkb4781 Lmao this reply is golden 🤣

"You have the aces Sammy!"

@@richard7645 Haha I know right. ENOUGH!!!