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The Problem With Jon Stewart

The Problem With Jon Stewart

Жыл бұрын

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We’ve got not one former Secretary of State but TWO as our guests on this week’s podcast. Secretary Hillary Clinton and Secretary Condoleezza Rice are here for a fascinating discussion of American power, whether spreading democracy has actually made us safer, and what our role on the world stage should look like going forward. Plus, they make plans to take a little train trip together.
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@adifrank
@adifrank Жыл бұрын
What's most fascinating about this interview is how these two secretaries of state, from opposing parties, are in complete sync when it comes to illegal wars, regime change and the military industrial complex. No daylight between them. They were literally completing each other's sentences.
@Ishkur23
@Ishkur23 Жыл бұрын
The Democrats and the Republicans profoundly disagree on many, many things. Foreign policy is not one of them.
@dannyd8625
@dannyd8625 Жыл бұрын
Yup, the Uniparty. It's like 2 mafia families run a town. While they'd prefer to own everything, they know they have to divvy up the goods. As long as one or the other family is in control of the car dealership, movie theater, etc- everything is fine. Once someone new comes into town and tries to start up, both families go full force to put an end to it.
@Larez121
@Larez121 Жыл бұрын
@@Ishkur23 exactly
@corbeau-_-
@corbeau-_- Жыл бұрын
I found it to be disturbing. Greed is a-political. Unless your belief is about greed and desire itself (buddhism). Capitalism supports greed and covers it up when it is illegal. That's not just these 2 women, that's over 70 years of US policy, if not just US policy. General Smedley D. Butler still wrote it down best in 'war is a racket': War is just a racket. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of people. Only a small inside group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few at the expense of the masses. I believe in adequate defense at the coastline and nothing else. If a nation comes over here to fight, then we'll fight. The trouble with America is that when the dollar only earns 6 percent over here, then it gets restless and goes overseas to get 100 percent. Then the flag follows the dollar and the soldiers follow the flag. I wouldn't go to war again as I have done to protect some lousy investment of the bankers. There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket. There isn't a trick in the racketeering bag that the military gang is blind to. It has its "finger men" to point out enemies, its "muscle men" to destroy enemies, its "brain men" to plan war preparations, and a "Big Boss" Super-Nationalistic-Capitalism. It may seem odd for me, a military man to adopt such a comparison. Truthfulness compels me to. I spent thirty- three years and four months in active military service as a member of this country's most agile military force, the Marine Corps. I served in all commissioned ranks from Second Lieutenant to Major-General. And during that period, I spent most of my time being a high class muscle- man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the Bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I suspected I was just part of a racket at the time. Now I am sure of it. Like all the members of the military profession, I never had a thought of my own until I left the service. My mental faculties remained in suspended animation while I obeyed the orders of higher-ups. This is typical with everyone in the military service. I helped make Mexico, especially Tampico, safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefits of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912 (where have I heard that name before?). I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested. During those years, I had, as the boys in the back room would say, a swell racket. Looking back on it, I feel that I could have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents. Note that it was published in 1933 - and not one thing has changed...
@corbeau-_-
@corbeau-_- Жыл бұрын
Smedley has long been the most decorated US general, to be clear. Not some lapdog...
@c.m.9369
@c.m.9369 Жыл бұрын
I love how Ms Rice says „When we went into Afghanistan…“ and then not a minute later says „See, Democracies don‘t invade other countries, dictatorships do“… without a single glimps of recognition of the irony here.
@Marrow9000
@Marrow9000 Жыл бұрын
She is referring to the Democratic Peace Theory (hypothesis) which claims democracies don't fight each other because their people (voting constituents who will be doing the fighting) have a say in not going to war. It does not make claims on state to state relations when one or both of those players are non-democracies.
@uncletuftin
@uncletuftin Жыл бұрын
Claiming Brazil no longer being a military junta as an American success along with South America and Africa too was some pretty wild historical revisionism.
@daysjours
@daysjours Жыл бұрын
@@Marrow9000 ooooh, aren´t you fancy pants. How about addressing the 1 million dead in Iraq thanks to Ms. Rice & co. Real people. Real death. Real horror. Not theories. These ladies are not gonna be finding a place in heaven.
@nancymathisen9707
@nancymathisen9707 Жыл бұрын
As it turns out, the USA isn’t really a democracy, despite its PR, and self identification.
@fredericom875
@fredericom875 Жыл бұрын
Given that Afghanistan was a security threat to the region and the world (have you forgot about 9/11?)
@tarsiere7308
@tarsiere7308 Жыл бұрын
if they switched "democracy" with "the interests of american corporations," their answers would sound much more honest
@mimoyah
@mimoyah Жыл бұрын
Thanks 👏
@Dennis-nc3vw
@Dennis-nc3vw Жыл бұрын
The US sacrificed tremendous interests in pursuit of democracy. Do you think we wanted Sadrists serving in Iraqi Parliament, or the SOFA to deny us the right to keep any permanent bases in Iraq? Do you think we wanted Afghanistan to make it illegal to convert to Christianity? No, but we tolerated this because of democracy
@andreipolytov1059
@andreipolytov1059 3 ай бұрын
Для них это одно и тоже.
@TheStrodog71
@TheStrodog71 Жыл бұрын
That was an OUTSTANDING and substantive interview.
@TheThoughtAssassin
@TheThoughtAssassin Жыл бұрын
I never thought I'd see Jon Stewart giving a tongue bath to two war criminals.
@cockoffgewgle4993
@cockoffgewgle4993 Жыл бұрын
I mean he gave tongue baths to every guest on the Daily Show for years.
@PutXi_Whipped
@PutXi_Whipped Жыл бұрын
Ana Kasparian has a new role model.
@ellenweiss5850
@ellenweiss5850 Жыл бұрын
That is disgusting.
@nemezidanemezida5110
@nemezidanemezida5110 20 күн бұрын
да. демпартия сша - соучастник войны в украине и израиле на стороне агрессоров
@daysjours
@daysjours Жыл бұрын
How to blow a multi-decade reputation in 44 minutes flat. Bravo, Jon -- you did it!!
@jerseygill
@jerseygill Жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly
@bivio1
@bivio1 Жыл бұрын
I couldn’t said it better myself!!
@coachdion6954
@coachdion6954 Жыл бұрын
Yes! Nailed this. Lie after lie after lie unchallenged.
@astheskylarksings
@astheskylarksings Жыл бұрын
So you liked her before that?
@goranrajcevic5550
@goranrajcevic5550 Жыл бұрын
@@astheskylarksings haha!
@LEM19284
@LEM19284 Жыл бұрын
That was the best interview ever and it should win awards!
@patrickhearther
@patrickhearther Жыл бұрын
Hello Callie how are you doing today?....Brilliant interview - with all the noise in the media one sometimes forget that there are actually intelligent people in America.....i hope you are enjoying the show?
@kjam1709
@kjam1709 Жыл бұрын
Jon: do this again. A part 2. So much more to cover Amazing & illuminating interview. Incredible. They trust you-
@dangoepfert4037
@dangoepfert4037 Жыл бұрын
That’s the problem - no guts to break that trust and ask what should’ve been asked - not even the slightest bit of pushback with 2 war criminals at the table. I’m still stewing at one an opportunity lost this was.
@coachtaewherbalife8817
@coachtaewherbalife8817 5 ай бұрын
How about discussing how China is having a positive influence in Africa and the Middle East, often capitalizing on American mistakes?
@guylarcher6005
@guylarcher6005 Жыл бұрын
When you realize we live in a world where comedians are asking the important questions. Thanks Jon.
@sloburnjo
@sloburnjo Жыл бұрын
as always been
@EattheApple666
@EattheApple666 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget the Comedian showing great leadership and saving Ukraine.
@jakelong6473
@jakelong6473 Жыл бұрын
Important questions? Like how much was Gaddafi wanting to leave the petrodollar involved in your decision to kill him, why didn't you do the same to the Saudis. Everything he asked was scripted and all their answers were propagandized lies if you look even a millimeter into any of these topics. Wake up.
@sulfurlad
@sulfurlad Жыл бұрын
Not just asking the important questions, but asking them well, and respectfully. It's not a punditry debate between political factions, it's a mediated and fluid discussion, free of hyperbole, with participants from both parties. Comedians, because of their creativity, are frequently much more gifted thinkers and speakers than are the reporters and pundits you see in 24 hour news cycles. There are so many examples of folks like Jon, but oh man is this a reminder of the trail he and people like Carlin have blazed for nuanced thought and analysis. Jon Stewart remains one of the most gifted interviewers of his generation. I remember the first visit that Powell made when he left office was Jon's show, and they dedicated an entire episode to the interview: that's a gifted thinker respecting a gifted thinker, 100%.
@Lennybird91
@Lennybird91 Жыл бұрын
From the Jest and Jokers of old, Mark Twain, Charlie Chaplin, and so on into modernity that indeed has long been the case.
@fetti22
@fetti22 Жыл бұрын
These 2 politicians should be locked up in jail forever
@hwilder111
@hwilder111 Жыл бұрын
War criminals!!
@juancarlo888
@juancarlo888 Жыл бұрын
Amen. We don't need a "conversation" we these people. We need trials.
@nodescriptionavailable3842
@nodescriptionavailable3842 Жыл бұрын
I can't believe how far Jon Stewart has fallen
@jaws392
@jaws392 Жыл бұрын
@No Description Available: it’s honestly sad. He was a massive critic of the Iraq war and he is letting these two lie. The only thing I can think off why is he doing this, is because he is getting paid from someone in the US government
@nodescriptionavailable3842
@nodescriptionavailable3842 Жыл бұрын
@jaws392 seriously was he threatened ffs
@dwarfsid
@dwarfsid Жыл бұрын
Why let these two add to Bullshit Mountain unchallenged, Jon?
@david33mtrb
@david33mtrb Жыл бұрын
Jon, Thank you for your excellent work. I want you to know that it is paying dividends. As a professor, I have and will continue to use this program in my community college HIST-1302 (American History 1865-2010) course here in Dallas, Texas. This kind of mutually-respectful, balanced-approach, deep dive into the issues is what is needed to help us develop adult citizens who are active participants in healthy, robust democracy. 🎉
@jerrywatson1958
@jerrywatson1958 Жыл бұрын
@David Robison Your's is the only thoughtful and respectful comment I've read so far. Thank you for being a teacher. I liked this program. Both strong women in their roles at the time. Maybe the two of them can run together on a ticket. I bet the two of them would kick MAGA's Butt.
@coffelt683
@coffelt683 Жыл бұрын
I got my Associates degree in history at a community college. Thank you for working a crucial and underappreciated job! 5 years after finishing community college and I have studied in three countries, currently finishing my mastersin Italy and about to intern at a university in Istanbul. I couldn't have done it without the amazing professors at my old community college.
@jackspring7709
@jackspring7709 Жыл бұрын
Lol - 3 globalists, one of them pretending to be a democrat, the other pretending to be a republican, "interviewed" by a celebrity pretending to be a critical thinker. They all belong to the same club. How can a professor be so naive?
@karyon1007
@karyon1007 Жыл бұрын
​@@coffelt683 I really believe that US community colleges have the potential to be a tremendous force for good with proper funding. The small class sizes and the availability of remedial courses to fill in gaps from high school are perfect for people who want to pursue higher ed but aren't quite prepared for the sink-or-swim atmosphere at many large universities.
@ZoroastrianNomad
@ZoroastrianNomad Жыл бұрын
Chaos is the feature not a bug , Jon Stewart ( open letter # 189 ) ...... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nJ-PksWrzdmpl4E.html
@kennethtopping8953
@kennethtopping8953 Жыл бұрын
I never knew I could feel this much rage and disgust and injustice.
@ChannelMath
@ChannelMath Жыл бұрын
welcome to the two-party oligarchy!
@Dennis-nc3vw
@Dennis-nc3vw Жыл бұрын
87% of civilians in Iraq were not killed by coalition forces (according to Iraq Body Count). They committed senseless carnage in large part because they knew people like you would blame their American enemies. How else do you explain such bizarre events as the July Soccer Bombings, which seemed to target no particular sect? The rage and disgust you should feel is that a perverse inversion of karma you enabled, by turning our enemies atrocities into a propaganda victory against their Western enemies.
@DeeloGoodquest
@DeeloGoodquest Жыл бұрын
That’s exactly what the plan is. To enrage you. Don’t fall for it. Stay centered. You are the eye of the hurricane.
@literallyanangrymoose7717
@literallyanangrymoose7717 Жыл бұрын
Then you weren't paying attention before.
@odaybaddar2354
@odaybaddar2354 Жыл бұрын
"Democracies don't use WMDs" says Rice, forgetting that the US is the only country that used nuclear bombs on civilians.
@frbrable
@frbrable Жыл бұрын
C'mon now, we toned it down after that, only burning civilians alive using napalm and white phosphorous.
@fredericom875
@fredericom875 Жыл бұрын
In an extraordinary military context. To world war 2
@marcbochner7733
@marcbochner7733 Жыл бұрын
Atomic weapons actually
@chillyourself5208
@chillyourself5208 Жыл бұрын
also uranium ammunition
@latexmonkeys
@latexmonkeys Жыл бұрын
@@marcbochner7733 what's the difference?
@stevehutchison9483
@stevehutchison9483 Жыл бұрын
Jon I have been watching your videos recently, and you gave these two a softball interview. I appreciate your respect for both, but you are a brilliant interviewer keep pushing forward with the common man/vet/police/fire/laborer/etc.
@sdust251977
@sdust251977 Жыл бұрын
Hahaha softball? I guess you have access to classified intelligence and have been in all situation rooms like they were, so you can judge their decisions. Perhaps we should interview you? This is the problem with the ignorant, they have no clue and only judge for what they see... Just saying
@RogerLewis-ey2tt
@RogerLewis-ey2tt Жыл бұрын
It seems so weird to me that Jon didn't attempt to squeeze a little remorse out of these 2 Shield Maidens. The Blackwater guy, Erik Prince(?) got a softball interview, too...
@LeRon832
@LeRon832 6 ай бұрын
@sdust251977 we know they did bad shit and lied. Are you just defending them because they were in stressful situations?
@charlesreid9337
@charlesreid9337 3 ай бұрын
@@sdust251977 what is it like to be a mindless serf?? "Oh you just have to trust thuh leeders". What a mindless simp. Both are responsible for 10s of thousands of innocent deaths. Clinton was literally taking money from foreign nations for her money laundering "charity" who had decisions before her they wanted to influence. Rice is just your standard utterly corrupt republican. Oh.. well they both are
@Krillinjustchillin
@Krillinjustchillin 3 ай бұрын
I wonder what their restrictions they asked to be on what could be asked on this interview was. It’s not normal for him to not to want to ask harder questions of people. Im sure Apple, and both sides had things limiting his ability to do that.
@jeffhaase9979
@jeffhaase9979 Жыл бұрын
It is great to see adults talk like adults no matter their point of view.
@Woosaidthat
@Woosaidthat Жыл бұрын
That’s right. One can sense the mutual respect in the room.
@juliocortazar8143
@juliocortazar8143 Жыл бұрын
Not very intelligent when "condi" says that "we have improved democratic conditions around the world", given that the usa is now an oligarchy. And this discussion proves that there is only one political party at the service of that oligrchy.
@Bell_plejdo568p
@Bell_plejdo568p 6 ай бұрын
@@juliocortazar8143yea they just lie and lie
@LarryGarcia-lz2zb
@LarryGarcia-lz2zb 29 күн бұрын
Condi . . Respect you mucho . . but still . . The Republican Party . . is in a state of an [ Oligarchy ] . . and those in Power . . don’t speak out . I’m bored . . and thinking . . What am I going to have for lunch . . 🥁 🥁 . . 🍔 🍟 🥤 . .
@ArmageddonAfterparty
@ArmageddonAfterparty Жыл бұрын
This is disappointing. I feel that interviewing war criminals should be done by the International Criminal court, as John Stewart fails to stop them from lying throughout it.
@guzmas31
@guzmas31 Жыл бұрын
So sad to see him do this. And accepting their assumption that policing the fighting anyone we don't like is for good reasons and OK if we can afford it and plan for what happens afterwards. It sickens me to see Jon Stewart do this; he was so much better.
@scottkeller8890
@scottkeller8890 Жыл бұрын
This was Colbert level cringe. Two war criminals and not a single hard question.
@thor9563
@thor9563 Жыл бұрын
@@guzmas31 What kind of cheese do you like with your WHINE?? Your name is not familiar as a high level statesman who claims to have a better solution to the REAL problems these officials faced. We be the Big Dawg. Thank Almighty God! We are the most benevolent, least cruel, bigoted most generous and peace loving Big Dawg in all of human history. Happy Thanksgiving!
@corbeau-_-
@corbeau-_- Жыл бұрын
the international criminal court - based in my country, is very limited as well. In both cases, money and political momentum decide a lot of the outcome. And they take a decade, or two per case. I was just a bit dissappointed by Jon, he usually is sharper than this. I suppose he too has a blindspot...
@ArmageddonAfterparty
@ArmageddonAfterparty Жыл бұрын
@@corbeau-_- I am aware, it has become a figure of speech more than anything else tbh, as in reality I have no confidence in these institutions.
@richardfriday9477
@richardfriday9477 Жыл бұрын
As Noam Chomsky said around 1990, if the Nuremberg Laws were applied, every American president after WWII would have been hanged. I think the same can be said for former US Secretaries of State.
@macdonalddube5189
@macdonalddube5189 Жыл бұрын
Nuremberg Laws? or Nuremberg trials? Do you even check what you write. The Nuremberg Laws were antisemitic and racist laws that were enacted in Nazi Germany in 1935 . What ever you might have meant. Now you sound like you are a literal Nazi.
@syme1984
@syme1984 Жыл бұрын
He also said the unvaxxed should removed from society and starved. He lived long enough for him to become the villain. Or village idiot.
@big1boston
@big1boston Жыл бұрын
The man is 100% Establishment since Covid 1984...
@joelhungerford8388
@joelhungerford8388 Жыл бұрын
Not to take away what he said there, but I can't get past the fact that chomsky also called for those refusing to take the covid vaccination to be forced into camps and/or refused the ability to work and buy food. So I don't take much out of a geriatric who wants to emulate nazi concentration camps
@richardfriday9477
@richardfriday9477 Жыл бұрын
@@macdonalddube5189 Thanks for the lesson, professor.
@brookdixon4419
@brookdixon4419 3 ай бұрын
The fact he can keep a straight face in this sea of b.s. is amazing
@joshuafitch6871
@joshuafitch6871 Жыл бұрын
What a good conversation. People need to hear more of this style of conversation with former and current powerful politicians. I think they need it too. It keeps people questioning and promoting higher degrees of thought.
@mimoyah
@mimoyah Жыл бұрын
Conversation? Sounds more like US propaganda. Arrogant US fascist think they could classify country by who is good and who is evil, there is one evil only and it is the United Snakes of America
@RogerLewis-ey2tt
@RogerLewis-ey2tt Жыл бұрын
You don't think it normalizes us to accept a comfortable world domination?
@dlw1221
@dlw1221 8 ай бұрын
isnt enough words in the human vocabulary for me to describe my love for Madam Sec. Clinton. This bit$h plays zero games and knowing how much Putty and China FEAR her makes it even more practical to at least use her come 2024 NOT Putin's boy toy.
@elijahkatz5083
@elijahkatz5083 Жыл бұрын
At 6:38 watching Condoleeza Rice say "The United States can't impose democracy, that doesn't work," first my head exploded...then I said to myself, "Well, if anyone would know..."
@elijahkatz5083
@elijahkatz5083 Жыл бұрын
I actually screamed into my pillow at 34:39
@mikeytopaz4601
@mikeytopaz4601 Жыл бұрын
Or just as astonishing; Clinton remarking incredulously, "What's next?" in cautioning as to when and where we get involved in foreign theaters.
@integratedboxingsystem8827
@integratedboxingsystem8827 Жыл бұрын
The USA is the most terrorist country in the world. All of the wars for resources and imperialism. The CIA Violently overthrowing legally elected leaders in other countries who did not want to let USA corporations and the west in to rape their countries of resources. If the American public really knew the history of this country they would be AGHAST. A good documentary to watch that shows a lot of what I'm talking about is "Zeitgeist Addendum" which can be seen on KZfaq.
@quixomega
@quixomega Жыл бұрын
It has been more than 10 years, people do learn from their mistakes. Look at W, he wants to distance himself from his Presidency more than anyone.
@jannichi6431
@jannichi6431 Жыл бұрын
Condescending Rice, always made me feel like I was in that mandatory college English class that I already attended. She is a status quo professor. Like an Amy Coney Barrett. Total opposite of Hillary who brings UP a conversation to deeper thought.
@Philip-bk2dm
@Philip-bk2dm Жыл бұрын
Speaking of "humility," I think that it would help our image abroad if our politicians would stop saying that we are the "greatest country in the world" or "the greatest country in the history of the world" as they all seem to love to do. It's an embarrassment in my view.
@ghostpiratelechuck2259
@ghostpiratelechuck2259 Жыл бұрын
They don’t give a sht about the perception abroad. It’s pandering to US nationalism.
@sirspate
@sirspate Жыл бұрын
As an outsider, it makes sense to my ear when taken as 'the country that's the current dominant Empire'. (But I'm not disagreeing with you.) I think Jon's comparisons to Rome in the discussion are apt.
@biocapsule7311
@biocapsule7311 Жыл бұрын
This interview is anything but humility. The US cause as much problems and suffering as they purport to solve. I notice they didn't ever touch on the fact that Iran is the way it is because of the US. They talk big about liberal democracy, but liberal democracy is an afterthought, the US only ever care about which governments are willing to do what they want. Oh yeah... they make mistakes... notice they never really talk about any of their mistakes, they will always be the hero of their own story.
@electricpirate7964
@electricpirate7964 Жыл бұрын
It's better when we create connections with each other - because our western politicians (except Bernie) are the lobbyists' wXores.
@Philip-bk2dm
@Philip-bk2dm Жыл бұрын
Someone replied to my comment by saying (in so many words) that my point is moot because politicians don't care about outside opinions when they are pandering to the U.S. Nationalist base. I don't see their comment here anymore, but that is quite right. So, thank you.
@kimpetersen358
@kimpetersen358 Жыл бұрын
This interview should have lasted several hours ! Thank you 👍
@patrickhearther
@patrickhearther Жыл бұрын
Hello Kim how are you doing today?..... i'm happy for Sandra and Bill may God bless their new home....i hope you are enjoying the show?
@user-ur1uy7dz7e
@user-ur1uy7dz7e 7 ай бұрын
Why the truth might slip out
@andreipolytov1059
@andreipolytov1059 3 ай бұрын
Это интервью должен проводить судья с прокурором.
@CWRTalentPassitOn
@CWRTalentPassitOn 5 ай бұрын
I want an online program with Hillary on Civics. We have zero education about our responsibilities as citizens.
@lonewolffisherman7092
@lonewolffisherman7092 Жыл бұрын
Making points, not interrupting, not screaming, thank goodness for Mr. Stewart. Love listening.
@JanAndhisfiets
@JanAndhisfiets Жыл бұрын
Lol they talk over Jon multiple times.. totally insane responses on the US warmachine questions.
@EattheApple666
@EattheApple666 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunitally most people in US treat it like the WWF
@jonathanbeshansky4932
@jonathanbeshansky4932 Жыл бұрын
@@EattheApple666 Now WWE!
@2Goiz_1ShanDA
@2Goiz_1ShanDA Жыл бұрын
It's really sad when these two women gave out the closest version of any truth in history that Americans have been given and people are in here second-guessing these women that's about the most honest appeal I've ever seen of the New deal & americas choices
@slickbricknick123
@slickbricknick123 Жыл бұрын
One of those women helped lie us into a war we got tangled in for two decades and the other felt entitled to being president.
@pumpkinpieslover9880
@pumpkinpieslover9880 Жыл бұрын
I struggle with these interviews because Jon is able to make some small progress on their positions but then they come off as rational and factual while completely avoiding the real facts around imperialism and our extraction of wealth and resources from the counties we invade. Iraq was always about the oil and that needs to be called out here.
@dreamingrightnow1174
@dreamingrightnow1174 Жыл бұрын
You're right of course, but Jon's drawing the line in a different place. His goal is to get them talking without making it a puff piece and as a result we get to see both how intelligent and yet deluded these two former Secretaries of State are. I struggle to listen to HRC talk without getting distracted by what I would like to confront her with, so it was an exercise in self-discipline. My politics are far to the left of JS, but I love his beautiful heart and brain.
@sh740
@sh740 Жыл бұрын
How much oil did the US extract from Iraq or lybia or Afghanistan? How much did the wars cost?
@hmq9052
@hmq9052 Жыл бұрын
@@sh740 The wars cost way way more than any oil benefit. The cost benefit analysis just doesn't work. It wasn't about oil. That was a benefit
@integratedboxingsystem8827
@integratedboxingsystem8827 Жыл бұрын
The USA is the most terrorist country in the world. All of the wars for resources and imperialism. The CIA Violently overthrowing legally elected leaders in other countries who did not want to let USA corporations and the west in to rape their countries of resources. If the American public really knew the history of this country they would be AGHAST. A good documentary to watch that shows a lot of what I'm talking about is "Zeitgeist Addendum" which can be seen on KZfaq.
@hmq9052
@hmq9052 Жыл бұрын
@@integratedboxingsystem8827 At the macro level, I'd have to disagree. Europe and the major powers were in a state of perpetual war for a thousand years until America became the sole superpower. The period of unprecedented peace that followed the second world war - and that we've enjoyed in our lifetimes - is precisely because America became that sole superpower. Never has a country with such an economic and military advantage over the rest of the world acted with such restraint.
@RoseA.Dewine
@RoseA.Dewine Жыл бұрын
Jon Stewart, you're so all up in my feed that I was afraid you had passed. Oy! I'm SOOO happy its not the case! Thank you so much for being who you are and doing what you do!!! You're a WONDERFUL voice for good and logic and the way that you push back so strongly and without being nasty. You just do it exactly right!!💜💜💜
@Gospel0802
@Gospel0802 Жыл бұрын
What a great conversation by two of the foremost authorities on democracy and geopolitics. No sugarcoating seen here. Let’s be honest with ourselves. These women have had access to information and intelligence we lay people will never know about. Hence they can speak more authoritatively on these subject because their experience allows. Even if your political leanings don’t align with the particular politely parties these women served under you have to admit the were both very effective in the office of SOS. They are standard bearers for women in politics as well. Even if you don’t like them they are both brilliant and very accomplished and either could handle the job of President of the United States.
@TmRnBn
@TmRnBn Жыл бұрын
This should be the Prime-Time news on a daily basis. This is more informative, more instructive, and more important than any 90-minute news-cast I've seen in years.
@JRush374
@JRush374 Жыл бұрын
You should read Enough Already by Scott Horton
@rickhaines927
@rickhaines927 Жыл бұрын
Certainly lays out the facts more bluntly
@dontaclebourn5679
@dontaclebourn5679 Жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more!
@markostoppel1136
@markostoppel1136 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, and even though they have very opposing views, they still can speak and work together. This is where America was the strongest
@markostoppel1136
@markostoppel1136 Жыл бұрын
Loved this interview, different views and opinions, but very civil and factual, each one makes her point without negating the other. This is where America could be the absolute strongest ever - being able to cross the partisan line and work together
@thuglife1297
@thuglife1297 Жыл бұрын
Condoleezza Rice really looked Jon in the eyes and continued the false narrative of, "We thought they [Iraq] had weapons of mass destruction" lmfaooo.
@dksu
@dksu Жыл бұрын
Sad to see Jon invite her on his show only to let her get away with this. He cut his teeth tearing apart the Bush administration on this very point. I guess after Trump the well-spoken, civil warmongers are the good guys now.
@iKyleonGunz
@iKyleonGunz Жыл бұрын
Because that may be what she really was told and continued to believe. It doesn't make it true, but it doesn't make it a lie coming from her, also.
@photonAP
@photonAP Жыл бұрын
@@dksu Good point.
@photonAP
@photonAP Жыл бұрын
@@iKyleonGunz Aren't you naive...sorry if you still have to grow up.
@iKyleonGunz
@iKyleonGunz Жыл бұрын
@@photonAP ...Do you know what naive means? Two things can be true at once.
Жыл бұрын
It must have been hard for John not to go after the "We thought Sadam hat chemical Weapons" thin Ms Rice said.
@theglowcloud2215
@theglowcloud2215 Жыл бұрын
Jon only goes after Republicans who say those things. Democrats have a perpetual shield when it comes to their support of the Bush admin in going into Iraq.
@LEM19284
@LEM19284 Жыл бұрын
I’m bathing in the wonder of impeccable intellect that this conversation brought BACK to us all. I don’t know how this happened, but it’s really fascinating that it did.
@patrickhearther
@patrickhearther Жыл бұрын
Hello Callie how are you doing today?.....this conversation is one of a kind it's mind blowing with deep message behind the scene...i hope you are enjoying every minute of the show Callie?
@RogerLewis-ey2tt
@RogerLewis-ey2tt Жыл бұрын
Libya. Iraq. Judge by the fruits.
@zachk5249
@zachk5249 4 ай бұрын
Bro what?
@charlesreid9337
@charlesreid9337 3 ай бұрын
i can't imagine being so dimwitted i thought this was intellectual conversation
@benjaminhenderson7059
@benjaminhenderson7059 Жыл бұрын
Sad to see Jon has completely lost his spine
@Rippel0000
@Rippel0000 Жыл бұрын
He probably never had one.
@ricksflicks-
@ricksflicks- Жыл бұрын
Pure propaganda at this point.
@ST-ys6jm
@ST-ys6jm Жыл бұрын
How is allowing a true political discussion calming by two different people with fundamental different views calmly spineless????? Did you even listen him ralling against the defense complex. How both of them defended against him.
@NaveTierra90
@NaveTierra90 Жыл бұрын
This was heartbreaking to watch. Jon didn't even call them out that it's not only that the US wasn't prepared for what came after, but what right does the US have to invade other nations in the first place. I guess I had him all wrong.
@lylebardwell6716
@lylebardwell6716 Жыл бұрын
Jon has become a sellout. Sadly.
@J.NeiraAuthor
@J.NeiraAuthor Жыл бұрын
@@lylebardwell6716 Wrong
@morocco8990
@morocco8990 Жыл бұрын
John Stewart was always and is propagandist of New Liberals agenda. Nothing new here.
@J.NeiraAuthor
@J.NeiraAuthor Жыл бұрын
@@morocco8990 Tell me which important media figures completely disagree with your politics but you don't think they're a "shill." You people are so small minded that everything from a mainstream figure that disagrees with your personal morality ("America bad!" in your case) is dismissed as paid off or evil.
@morocco8990
@morocco8990 Жыл бұрын
@@J.NeiraAuthor If you work at Main Stream media then you are a propagandist. And if you interview war criminals and be so soft on them and align with their blatant lies then you are an evil.
@nancygaciru2386
@nancygaciru2386 Жыл бұрын
Great discussion. This is what intelligent conversation sounds like.
@Not_really
@Not_really Жыл бұрын
Cut to Lauren Boebert and Majorie Green, and these two women look and sound like aliens, today.
@bunnypeople
@bunnypeople Жыл бұрын
This is what they want you to think intelligent conversation sounds like. These women, who are supposed to be on the opposite sides of the ideological spectrum, are actually aligned ENTIRELY. Their only concern is that of total US global hegemony, at any cost. For Condoleezza that was the deaths of 500,000 innocent Iraqis and the destabilization of nearly the entire middle east. For Hillary that meant destroying the entire country of Libya and supporting ISIS fighters to overthrow Assad in Syria. These women should be tried for war crimes. What Jon says starting at 25:03 is referencing those two events exactly.
@TheDandonian
@TheDandonian Жыл бұрын
Sadly just a reminder that even those who consider themselves on the left in politics are so far to the right that they don't know the difference. Hillary refusing to acknowledge the link between America arming the world and the trouble those arms cause is Republican 101.
@Crisfer05
@Crisfer05 Жыл бұрын
Wrong this is what stablemates propaganda sounds like. This war criminals think the same because they’re both corrupt establishment tools and Jon disappointed me because he didn’t push back not even on the war in Iraq being illegal and the weapons of mass destruction was completely fabricated by the U.S. and UK governments to help oil corporations.
@Karlthegreat84
@Karlthegreat84 Жыл бұрын
They had the best words.
@cha0sniper
@cha0sniper Жыл бұрын
Jon can claim all he wants that he's not a journalist, but holy shit. This is like what I'd expect from some long-form documentary-style interview, it's really good ^_^
@MMuraseofSandvich
@MMuraseofSandvich Жыл бұрын
With cordial interviews like this one, he takes cues from people like Terry Gross or BBC reporters. With hostile interviews where he's confident that the interviewee is going to lie, he takes cues from trial lawyers. In both cases there is a tremendous amount of research and preparation required. I think every journalist in this country should take note of what he's doing.
@billh.1940
@billh.1940 Жыл бұрын
He is a journalist of the highest order, but if he admits it, he could wind up burning in fox hell, they could buy his contract! Or on pbs, and if he says or does anything the overlords there don't like, he would get the Rose treatment! After all pbs are the lefty voice and believes in freedom, not!
@HonestTherapist
@HonestTherapist Жыл бұрын
This is exactly the same as every other reporter! Not a single real question, just a platform for 2 of the most corrupt human beings on earth to pretend how virtuous they’ve been throughout their lives while laughing out loud talking about supporting dictators.
@backstabingpike
@backstabingpike Жыл бұрын
So remember when everybody was crying about him leaving The daily show this is why he left so he could interview and do what he wanted instead of having somebody look over his shoulder people never think about the long game
@cha0sniper
@cha0sniper Жыл бұрын
@@backstabingpike I mean, he did this kind of stuff on the daily show too, tho you're right that it wasn't to this extent. He left the daily show because he had done it for 15 years and was tired lol
@DaveE99
@DaveE99 Жыл бұрын
“Used the issue not to solve the problem , but to consolidate power for themselves”. Wow
@margieslagel9573
@margieslagel9573 Жыл бұрын
Please educate America we need this !!!
@dadigan5117
@dadigan5117 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, again, Jon, and I concur ... this should have been hours. Excellent discussion, too bad they can't do it in WA.
@wlcoston
@wlcoston Жыл бұрын
A really, really, really great conversation that we (Americans) don't have enough in an open way.
@KoolAidIdiot
@KoolAidIdiot Жыл бұрын
Holy crap, he actually asked about the military industrial complex to their faces lmao
@j.macjordan9779
@j.macjordan9779 Жыл бұрын
...he's contemplating suicide a week from next Tuesday, 11:15p, outside his front door, w1 round to the back of his head...
@stickjohnny
@stickjohnny Жыл бұрын
Jon is the absolute best. The daily show was great when he hosted it but his new show is at least 10x better. Not only did he say it to their faces, he did it in such a humble and poignant way that they were shamed.
@mohibali2552
@mohibali2552 Жыл бұрын
That part was awesome!
@marceybull
@marceybull Жыл бұрын
I agree these questions need to be asked ... But it's always been the Secretaries of States's jobs to be the point person for making hard lives-at-stakes decisions, and sadly most if not all have blood on their hands ... But now it becomes a point of conversation when it's the women starting to hold such positions ... These questions should have been mainstream with their men counterparts too -- guilt is so often put on women, when it should have been posed long ago straight to their prior male counterparts faces too.
@Silverhawk100
@Silverhawk100 Жыл бұрын
@@marceybull There's plenty of conversations out there of trying to assign guilt to Henry Kissinger, to use another prominent Secretary of State. While I would agree that Kissinger has never expressed anything approaching regret for his decisions, it has happened.
@ribbitrocks
@ribbitrocks Жыл бұрын
lovely exchange of thoughtful conversations with intelligent people always find it refreshing regardless of POV
@spdelco
@spdelco Жыл бұрын
Jon, you had such a good chance to ask them hard questions. Why were your questions so softball?
@andreipolytov1059
@andreipolytov1059 3 ай бұрын
Потому что Кеннеди😢. Они показали что не остановятся не перед чем, для достижения абсолютной власти. Показательно на камеры убили президента США. Стюарт просто маленький комар. Прихлопнут и не заметят. Джону приходится быть осторожным. Само появление этих разговоров это знак. Банко-печатники завели систему в неуправляемое пике. Не СМИ не контроль над соцсетями не помогают. Эти существа решили показать что готовы на компромисс с обществом. Но, но, но не обольщайтесь. Это просто игра, в крайнем случае сольют пару тройку фигур, да хоть ту же Хилари.
@Bell_plejdo568p
@Bell_plejdo568p 2 ай бұрын
He’s controlled opposition
@hapennysparrow
@hapennysparrow Жыл бұрын
Rice and Clinton on justifications for US interventions were astonishing. Jon, you have the last word, Sir. Massive respect for your sharp, truth telling observations. These two women danced around the stark truth of your criticisms. You were and are the one voice I trust to cut through the BS.
@prataprudra
@prataprudra Жыл бұрын
Can’t believe Jon is not pushing back on some of the statements. rice went over CIA crimes in latin America like a footnote. So disappointing.
@roughhabit9085
@roughhabit9085 Жыл бұрын
No she admitted they supported juntas that fought against communism. That was after all what the Cold War was about- fighting the expanding sphere of communism.
@tomconnor8479
@tomconnor8479 Жыл бұрын
I think Stewart wasn't talking to them to publicly prove them wrong but rather to allow the 2 former Secretaries of State to lay out their hypocrisies for podcast listeners. He challenged them both and gave them space to skewer themselves with their responses. My take away was/is-It's a good thing that neither Clinton nor Rice are in positions of power.
@ashaide
@ashaide Жыл бұрын
He doesn't have to. With the little pushes he's done, he's let Rice and Clinton make his points for him. If you push people o the level of these two with direct accusations, they know how to respond to that. They can even walk out. But because Jon is engaging in a conversation, they sit there and talk, revealing more than what they would if someone was aggressive against them
@Becky_Cal
@Becky_Cal Жыл бұрын
Agree!
@gloomgirl777
@gloomgirl777 Жыл бұрын
This was a very disappointing interview, and I think it tarnishes Jon Stewart's legacy of holding power to account.
@EllisIsland2023
@EllisIsland2023 3 ай бұрын
Would love to see more discussions with both sides. Very meaningful even a year later.
@daniel51020
@daniel51020 Жыл бұрын
It's not about the US government "pulling back", it's about the US refocusing on people, environmental and economic priorities at home and abroad in a way that is "humble", democratic and diplomatic.
@squadronlogistics
@squadronlogistics Жыл бұрын
They tip toe'd and jumped over that monsterous hurdle of defense contractors 😅🤣🤣🤣🤣 great interview ‼️
@MMuraseofSandvich
@MMuraseofSandvich Жыл бұрын
The question is asking for speculation and an answer within this timeframe. On the one hand there's a clear answer if you're not someone with connections to the government. On the other, you don't get much more complicated than geopolitics and diplomacy, and Jon of course knows this and allowed Hillary to take a small sample of why we're in a diplomatic "damned if you do, damned if you don't" position.
@testingtesting8785
@testingtesting8785 Жыл бұрын
I think they know defense is what America America. Without our military capabilities, I doubt other countries would respect our diplomats. Speak softy and carry a big stick works only if you have a big stick.
@x.y.1215
@x.y.1215 Жыл бұрын
Both of these women, their friends and their families are making money off of their “defense” contract stocks. Defense contractors own the Fed. They can’t say a peep to offend their corporate donors.
@EricLeafericson
@EricLeafericson Жыл бұрын
@@testingtesting8785 While that is true, it's not really a morally sound justification. America is constantly interfering with other democracies with coups, propaganda, giving money to the campaigns of madmen who they then stab in the back like Saddam Hussein, and economic isolation. When these things create chaos and violence, that creates a market for war, which is good for defense contractors. Basically, it's in the financial interests of defense contractors to destabilize the world. I guess the quote should be "speak softly, spread violence and ruin, and carry a big stick in case anyone tries to stop you from ruining people's lives." Not really as pithy though.
@TheArcaneMaster
@TheArcaneMaster Жыл бұрын
lol ikr. The look on Condi's face when he said Lockheed Martin was priceless
@sribaba5633
@sribaba5633 Жыл бұрын
This looks and feels like Jon is part of the club.
@rasabilly
@rasabilly Жыл бұрын
Sold out
@jhilbertdrums
@jhilbertdrums Жыл бұрын
Sad…..
@demolitionsexpert
@demolitionsexpert Жыл бұрын
only way he got this interview approved. it is now a marketing piece. they knew the outcome before it was done
@micbear9334
@micbear9334 Жыл бұрын
@@demolitionsexpert and somehow people think we don't have censorship.
@ricksflicks-
@ricksflicks- Жыл бұрын
He is definitely part of the propaganda machine. Softballing war criminals is a sign he has completely lost his way.
@tweedledee9573
@tweedledee9573 Жыл бұрын
As an independent, I find this hard to watch. Shame on these women.
@angelaasadi9283
@angelaasadi9283 Жыл бұрын
George Carlin once said years ago that John Stewart was destined to do great things……. he was right. Thank you for being a voice of reason and standing up to power. We need more voices like yours.
@addyred1861
@addyred1861 Жыл бұрын
He would be sad now seeing this.
@akrenwinkle
@akrenwinkle Жыл бұрын
@@addyred1861 You are 100% right. I could go on and on, but I'll say one thing for both women. One was a chief architect for the disastrous wars for oil, minerals, security, and rebuilding profits in Afghanistan and Iraq. (Not one single 9/11 hijacker was from either nation.) The other one voted for these cockamamie schemes that brought death and destruction to hundreds of thousands, mostly civilians, the majority women, children, the aged. Added bonus for chutzpah: Clinton voted for the Defense of Marriage Act. You know, because her marriage was- in her word- "sacred."
@eyeTHC
@eyeTHC Жыл бұрын
John Stewart is not the same as he was. He’s a shill like the rest of the corporate media.
@ajsans9161
@ajsans9161 Жыл бұрын
Lmao! “Standing up”? What video did you watch. These war mongering women had Jon scared to push back.
@akrenwinkle
@akrenwinkle Жыл бұрын
@@ajsans9161 You're right, or, as it's usually written on these boards, your right.
@_-martin-_
@_-martin-_ Жыл бұрын
I wish Chris Hedges or Jimmy Dore would have been invited to this interview. They would have called out these insane war mongering women!
@tubetorpedo
@tubetorpedo Жыл бұрын
Exact reason people like those are not invited. That would ruin good propaganda.
@roughhabit9085
@roughhabit9085 Жыл бұрын
So instead of a civilised conversation you would be in favour of summary execution . That is the Nazi way.
@_-martin-_
@_-martin-_ Жыл бұрын
@@roughhabit9085 There is nothing civilized about the pain and suffering that Hillary and Rice have brought to this world.
@Miiro55
@Miiro55 Жыл бұрын
Sad state for journalists when a comedian does better interviews than most. Happy to have Jon back
@Rumplesti1tskin
@Rumplesti1tskin Жыл бұрын
He's more than a comedian at this point in his career, and has been for at least the last two decades.
@cara804
@cara804 Жыл бұрын
There's a strong correlation between great humorist and intelligence.
@koch1467
@koch1467 Жыл бұрын
He did not push back on the WMD lie and just allowed them to spout imperialist nonsense.
@KingMinosxxvi
@KingMinosxxvi Жыл бұрын
Sad state of you when you believe this is journalism.
@enterpassword3313
@enterpassword3313 Жыл бұрын
@@KingMinosxxvi its reflective of how bad the typical journalism is that this conversation can recieve such high praise
@josephpacifico7054
@josephpacifico7054 Жыл бұрын
It just feels good to consume logic, reason, moderation, and intelligent thought when we often consume only flashy soundbites. Thank you!
@juliocortazar8143
@juliocortazar8143 Жыл бұрын
I didnt know that you could "consume logic, reason, moderation, and intelligent thought" from two war criminals. I really dont think thats possible.
@floepiejane
@floepiejane Жыл бұрын
​@@juliocortazar8143 say it again! They need to hear it!
@saraleigh5336
@saraleigh5336 10 ай бұрын
Well said.
@missmiss8359
@missmiss8359 8 ай бұрын
​@@juliocortazar8143"war criminals" ? lol you people like to make up shit don't you ?
@missmiss8359
@missmiss8359 8 ай бұрын
​@@floepiejaneNo we don't
@dangoepfert4037
@dangoepfert4037 Жыл бұрын
Seems like Jon is part of the problem now; what an opportunity lost
@mikehw7526
@mikehw7526 Жыл бұрын
The Problem with Jon Stewart is that he softballed this interview.Stewart knows that Rice is lying about WMD's and does not confront her.Stewart used to do pieces on Rice lying about WMDs.
@panama2468
@panama2468 Жыл бұрын
Isn't his most famous clip of when he grilled Judith Miller for contribution to leading the American public into supporting the Iraq war. I wonder what happened to him
@sebastienlundby-thomas7823
@sebastienlundby-thomas7823 Жыл бұрын
Valid points. I think one question is what is the purpose of the interviews on this show. In these sort of interviews he has been trying to let the other person speak more. I agree id like to see him push back more how he has/does in other formats, but the point might be he is trying to put out these connecting threads and just letting the interviewees fully respond. Don't think it's as sinister as the implication here was
@lesizmor9079
@lesizmor9079 Жыл бұрын
Mike, do you think Stewart forgot how to be confrontational? Of course not-- he soft-balled this particular interview for a reason. He wanted them to speak freely.
@reynardclinton1330
@reynardclinton1330 Жыл бұрын
Wait for part 2 guys
@yodythewoadie
@yodythewoadie Жыл бұрын
Consider the liberal center demographic a show like this is obviously aimed at. You know before Hillary agreed to go on the show a pact was made for Jon to not inquire about the obvious stuff. And have you seen the Clinton body count??
@FrayedSanity1981
@FrayedSanity1981 Жыл бұрын
Condoleezza Rice belongs in prison! It is unbelivable to me that she, Cheney, Bush and Rumsfeld never got tried for warcrimes!
@bbob70
@bbob70 Жыл бұрын
And Hillary Clinton does not belong in prison? She and Obama wrecked Libya and Syria, she keeps fearmongering about Russia including spreading the lie that "Russia hacked the election" . It is that view of Russia as the enemy and the expansion of NATO that sowed the seeds of the Ukraine war.
@russellburgess684
@russellburgess684 Жыл бұрын
Rice was not the only person on that stage who is a war criminal. And I'm not talking about Jon Stewart.
@Wayzor_
@Wayzor_ Жыл бұрын
@@russellburgess684 This old crap? lol how'd those midterms go? MAGA pos
@russellburgess684
@russellburgess684 Жыл бұрын
@@Wayzor_ Try again. Voted for Nader twice. Volunteered for Kucinich. Voted for McKinney in 08. Would have held my nose and voted for Sanders despite some terrible foreign policy votes. Will never support the corporatist, war mongering duopoly/kleptocracy regardless if it's an ass or elephant.
@FrayedSanity1981
@FrayedSanity1981 Жыл бұрын
@@russellburgess684 Yeah, please. She and Hillary can share a cell as far as Im concerned. =)
@chirelius76
@chirelius76 Жыл бұрын
I get this wouldn’t have been Jon’s focus here to play hardball with both of their hawkish policies, but the moment Condoleezza talked about focusing on democracy post Cold War, I would have loved to hear her comment on Bush Admin’s role in democratically elected Aristide’s overthrow in Haiti in 2004. We owe so much to the Haitian people. Research it. Don’t forget it.
@shaemarcellino8580
@shaemarcellino8580 11 ай бұрын
You know what I was thinking towards the end of this discussion? Would Trump or any of the CURRENT conservative politicians be even willing OR able to have THIS kind of sensical, logical and strategic conversation of the state of our place in the world? I don't think so. Hillary and Condoleezza are very forthright yet realistic about what has happened and what COULD happen in the US and abroad in approaching how...as they say...populism could steer off into authoritarianism if not watched closely. And I think it's interesting how they...including Jon...kinda can conceive of how that can and maybe a little bit...is approaching that line in the US presently. I don't think Trump could ever ethically or sensibly foresee these truths. And that is frightening. Especially with him running again. Thank you Jon...by the way...for having this conversation. I actually learned alot and feel more aware of where we are in the world.
@greengenes5129
@greengenes5129 Жыл бұрын
Those politicians are God-damned spectacular at avoiding questions. It's astonishing how easily they shift accountability for their actions. It's like it comes natural, or something.
@skynet4496
@skynet4496 Жыл бұрын
He didn't even ask the questions that he did when he had his show. He's a stupid sellout
@IanLesiuk
@IanLesiuk Жыл бұрын
I'm not making excuses for some people, but there is a lot more that goes in to politics than what meets the eye. For example, it's really not as simple as "let's stop supporting Ukraine and give that money to the people"
@IanLesiuk
@IanLesiuk Жыл бұрын
@Aden Lind what? Russia did not attack Ukraine "for their own protection". Ukraine was not a threat to Russia. NATO wasn't either. Putin just had a problem with the liberal west, but not so much a problem with the right-wing west. Which is why he helped Trump get elected
@mikeyo1O1
@mikeyo1O1 Жыл бұрын
They're not that good when once great Jon Stewart provides ZERO pushback. The problem "with" Jon Stewart?
@IanLesiuk
@IanLesiuk Жыл бұрын
@Aden Lind thank you, I'd much rather support democratic nations than an egotistical insane dictator who cares about nothing but himself
@dantex777
@dantex777 Жыл бұрын
It's nice to not only hear a real conversation, but I am treated as a mature and intelligent viewer that I can make my own personal decisions/opinions on how I felt about what was/and what wasn't said on my own with out having someone tell me how to feel about it. It's refreshing.
@staceyhogan8807
@staceyhogan8807 Жыл бұрын
Wow !! I loved this interview!! I remember I first got into politics when I watched. Condalez Rise. Hearing with her testimony about Clearence Thompson. I believed her decades ago.And I was outraged by how they treated her!! I had the absolute Respect for her and her bravery. And my President Hillary Clinton absolute Respect!! I would love to hear Hillary Clinton say on air. What Foxholes started about her and how they still have never had proof of their accusations. And why you didn't sue Murdock and everysingle opinions for destroying your character.
@whyputaname
@whyputaname Жыл бұрын
@@staceyhogan8807 .. One of the take aways I felt was that they both agree with each other on most of the issues that were talked about.. Women do that a lot easier then men do..
@web-angel
@web-angel Жыл бұрын
😂 it's called the banality of evil. It's to help you to forget that those women are murderesses and Jon is using his reputation with the public to help to wash their bloody hands.
@paulmatters2641
@paulmatters2641 Жыл бұрын
Comedian interviews mass murderers. This is the joke? Right?
@familyguy19091
@familyguy19091 Жыл бұрын
The old school could talk to each other On both sides Red or blue. I hope we keep having conversations like this
@mays-bryant-the-yeechiman6400
@mays-bryant-the-yeechiman6400 Жыл бұрын
Dude gave war criminals a tongue bath
@tonybrown512
@tonybrown512 Жыл бұрын
Gotta give credit where its due. Staying true to the name, you are definitely giving us a good example of "the problem" with this episode. Though probably not so much in the way you might imagine.
@daysjours
@daysjours Жыл бұрын
Here, here. I wish he had addressed the open slave markets in Libya after Clinton destroyed that country. Or asked Ms. Rice about the 1 million dead in Iraq. How these women sleep at night is a mystery.
@ChannelMath
@ChannelMath Жыл бұрын
you mean this time Stewart is the problem
@kathyborthwick6738
@kathyborthwick6738 Жыл бұрын
Very good point!
@kathyborthwick6738
@kathyborthwick6738 Жыл бұрын
@@daysjoursThese markets are flourishing !
@mindped
@mindped Жыл бұрын
for real!
@Rejex101
@Rejex101 Жыл бұрын
This was just US Imperialist talking points with little pushback. The US protecting US interests means by any means possible. Complete nonsense.
@CWRTalentPassitOn
@CWRTalentPassitOn 5 ай бұрын
Two very intelligent women talking like adults. More.
@curtrice6060
@curtrice6060 10 ай бұрын
I hope a large % of the 1 m whom have digested this program, do as I am , and review this discussion again, after 9 months 🤓🧐😁🤗, 🥰🇺🇸🤗 !
@mohammedhosain6605
@mohammedhosain6605 Жыл бұрын
This breaks my heart. To see JS just let them go on wo calling on their BS when they were discussing world politics.
@AtillatheFun
@AtillatheFun Жыл бұрын
This want an attack. This was a conversation. You don’t randomly start yelling at someone you are talking to. They are discussing the nuances of democracy and how it can just be a veil for autocrats. We know what they are responsible for in the Middle East and elsewhere, and we don’t need a rehashing of the same old.
@mikeytopaz4601
@mikeytopaz4601 Жыл бұрын
Look, you can't expect the man to take a flame thrower to their faces... He's got a show to run, and future guests he wants to keep from scaring away. He did great. Period. He asked most of the relevant questions, many of which were toughies for those two neo-cons. The smart kids know what he accomplished in that interview, everybody else isn't going to change their minds anyhow...
@bbob70
@bbob70 Жыл бұрын
Jon Stewart has always been an establishment puppet.
@demolitionsexpert
@demolitionsexpert Жыл бұрын
@@AtillatheFun
@mikeytopaz4601
@mikeytopaz4601 Жыл бұрын
@@bbob70 I mean, isn't anyone whose career revolves around the mainstream? Some are just more enthusiastic about their devotion to the status quo than others, while others play the role of pushing the envelope, but always within the reasonable boundaries of the establishment. There are a lot of things that Stewart has done for our culture, and for disenfranchised segments of the population through his direct challenges to authority, but to stay operational while reaching the most viewers possible, I don't see how else he'll accomplish that besides keeping on good terms with said establishment.
@iversonmatthew
@iversonmatthew Жыл бұрын
I’ve been denied medical care 6 times going through 13 major surgeries. Begging for medical care here is the price of my freedom.
@janicegullett8779
@janicegullett8779 Жыл бұрын
That is heart breaking and I am sure very scary for you. As a Canadian I have had 5 major procedures in my life the last two, knee replacements in the last 4 years with NO COST to me and just part of our medical coverage. It has always confused me why the US considers our medical care as socialized when it is nothing more than a Canadian right for good health care, not perfect but so much better than many.
@trishaferrand1395
@trishaferrand1395 Жыл бұрын
Voting for candidates who will implement some version of medicare is the answer. We have the freedom to do that.
@fisherking7798
@fisherking7798 Жыл бұрын
And need not be there is absolutely no reason why Americans should not have good and affordable healthcare
@notawinemom8540
@notawinemom8540 Жыл бұрын
@@janicegullett8779 In the US the for profit healthcare industry makes campaign contributions to politicians to keep them from passing Medicare for All (which has the support of 70% of the population). It's impossible to get anything like that done because the culture war causes voters to be easily distracted & manipulated. These industries, including big pharma, also spend billions in advertising each year on television. Every other ad on cable news is some pill for erectile dysfunction. They're the biggest customers of our "news." So when we have political primaries, the "news" smears any candidate that supports popular policies, like Medicare for All, & tells viewers to vote for the "moderate" like Hillary Clinton because they're "more electable." They don't really ever back those statements up with data, because the polling data shows that's not true. Unfortunately, liberal voters in the US are really easily manipulated by corporate media and progressives are emotionally battered if they try to demand anything. I don't believe change is possible in a political & economic system that is this far gone. The top 1% owns the entire political duopoly.
@hotrox2112
@hotrox2112 Жыл бұрын
@@trishaferrand1395 ...it turns out voting is a cure for nothing...
@rickbutler3726
@rickbutler3726 9 ай бұрын
We so need a part two to this!
@Kras015
@Kras015 3 ай бұрын
all i heard in this conversation was when jon was trying to make a point, the other two were like 'no no, we're right, and what we're saying is right, i can't hear you"
@albertgriffith5801
@albertgriffith5801 Жыл бұрын
"Of course we had to continue strategic relationships with authoritarian regimes" You don't impose democracy, but you do impose market capitalism, which is absolutely authoritarian
@tomaszwida
@tomaszwida Жыл бұрын
yeah that how they change a conversation, of what really is the problem in this world. but that liberals for you lot of people think of them as an ally, but they are obstacle best example i can think of is california and affordable housing/mental illness treatments if u want to look up the anecdote how liberals actually act...
@hello7032
@hello7032 Жыл бұрын
Bingo
@onionrovirosa
@onionrovirosa Жыл бұрын
Condoles and Hillary reminds me of the old days when the R and D could at least talk.
@AvantTom
@AvantTom Жыл бұрын
I’m honestly surprised they even agreed to do this.
@EattheApple666
@EattheApple666 Жыл бұрын
Why, three adults talking about issues. This is the way it was before Barack was elected. Whitey lost their minds and they have not come back to reality.
@willcerf757
@willcerf757 Жыл бұрын
Maybe you’re too young to remember but politicians in the US traditionally don’t have antagonism w press and journalism, you can disagree with them but politicians were transparent in general and open with the press or whoever. It was bad form not to be. Conversations like this were the norm. Accountability to press and public were the norm. The last years have been unusual.
@MakeSomeNoiseAgencyPlaylists
@MakeSomeNoiseAgencyPlaylists Жыл бұрын
Why that ?
@Kalepsis
@Kalepsis Жыл бұрын
Same. Corrupt neolibs like Clinton and Rice hardly ever deign to look down from their ivory towers built by corporate donor money long enough to recognize the existence of progressives like Jon. They fear that their voters might actually listen to him and demand change in the democratic party. What they don't seem to realize is that the voters are far more progressive than we were in the 90s, and their corruption and unwillingness to serve the needs of the populace has been laid bare over the last two decades. We see them for what they are, and we're tired of voting for the lesser evil.
@92jwiener
@92jwiener Жыл бұрын
@@willcerf757 I'd say I'm a little too young to remember. I'm not a child but I was in high school during Obama. When do you think that shift began? I would think it started around Bush Jr. or Clinton times, but I don't have the memory or age to state that convincingly.
@daniel51020
@daniel51020 Жыл бұрын
Great, vital questions, Jon. Thank you.
@donalmurphy5253
@donalmurphy5253 11 ай бұрын
After the coalition took Iraq, the USA privatised all of Iraqs industries and opened it to foreign investments. Any profits made by foreign investments could be kept by the companies. The only rule that was kept of the former regime was the law against the practice of trade unions. These people belong in the Hague.
@ChannelMath
@ChannelMath Жыл бұрын
What was the most offensive part of this for everyone? For me it was when Condi said "when you are a superpower, you tend to involve yourself in places all over the world". That use of the passive voice, "you", which in fact was actually HER, really infuriated me.
@m0nkey13
@m0nkey13 Жыл бұрын
I expected all the lies these two war criminals spewed. Jon acting like a spineless worm was the big disappointment.
@magnetiktrax
@magnetiktrax Жыл бұрын
Hilarious, you seem to think Rice is alone in having a desire to involve the US everywhere.
@fedupfaces
@fedupfaces Жыл бұрын
It was offensive that this interviewer had his balls checked at the studio door before this interview! What a hack j. Stewart is!! Gee Jon you can’t ask the war criminal Hillary why we left Libya a failed smoldering wreck with open air slave auctions?!?!?!? What a sad remnant of himself!!
@jimdolen225
@jimdolen225 Жыл бұрын
@@magnetiktrax he didn't say it was just her but she didn't push back on going to war in Iraq where countless American and Iraqi citizens were killed and maimed
@vladtheinhaler8940
@vladtheinhaler8940 Жыл бұрын
@@magnetiktrax she isn't, she is but one of many from both parties who support interventionist policies.
@robertbarth5816
@robertbarth5816 Жыл бұрын
These two women are drowning in American exceptionalism
@Simon-pl2zi
@Simon-pl2zi 4 ай бұрын
Two war criminals in one interview, priceless. Condoleezza falsely accused Saddam Hussein of attacking the WTC, to justify going to war with Iraq which resulted in the killing millions of Iraqi women and children, and thousands of American soldiers. She hypocritically said quote "when you invade a sovereign nation, that is a war crime. It is certainly against every principle of international law and international order" And yet the US military did exactly that to Syria, Iraq and Lybia.
@davidcbr0wn
@davidcbr0wn Жыл бұрын
“Jon Stewart tore up his own legacy in this interview,” as described by Aaron Mate on Useful Idiots.
@corbeau-_-
@corbeau-_- Жыл бұрын
I don't need Aaron mate to state the obvious, though.
@elliottspence
@elliottspence Жыл бұрын
@@corbeau-_- Many others do, though.
@davidcbr0wn
@davidcbr0wn Жыл бұрын
@@corbeau-_- ​ Aaron is the person who said it and I didn’t want to be a Joe Biden and plagiarize.
@opensourceworldviews
@opensourceworldviews Жыл бұрын
Funny how they both agree on so much about US interventions...almost makes you think there is really just one party!
@ukaszg8681
@ukaszg8681 Жыл бұрын
Back then there was.
@mikeytopaz4601
@mikeytopaz4601 Жыл бұрын
The "almost" is relevant when you consider that the two parties essentially differ over cultural policy, or what I consider, "window dressing." But where it comes to military expenditure, war profiteering, pandering to big business endeavors while throwing the American working citizen overboard, etc., they are very much the same party.
@adeptus333777
@adeptus333777 Жыл бұрын
There was and still is, only the corporate party.
@gbengaelehinafe6395
@gbengaelehinafe6395 Жыл бұрын
I think the flaw is thinking the two party will yield different results in the first place. The two party we have is just a vehicle and mechanism to achieve power, beyond that, it’s ONE American System and both parties work within that framework and thereby yield similar results irrespective of what party vehicle got you into power.
@rigobertogalvez8247
@rigobertogalvez8247 Жыл бұрын
Back then there was . This is funny .👍
@bobbydennis8333
@bobbydennis8333 Жыл бұрын
Legit legal question- does the US deserve a country?
@elainejohnson6955
@elainejohnson6955 Жыл бұрын
The look on Jon's face when Hillary invited Jon to take part in a pretend "situation room" with them was priceless!
@juliocortazar8143
@juliocortazar8143 Жыл бұрын
The look of hillary when jon started to talk about Libya, seems like she was entertaining the idea of having jon "eliminated"...
@sushmitahodges9604
@sushmitahodges9604 Жыл бұрын
As a trained historian and educator who teaches Modern World History and Global Issues I take umbrage at terms like "those people" and " country" when talking about India and the Kurds.. this coming after talking about the importance of humility! My students certainly know better..
@sushmitahodges9604
@sushmitahodges9604 Жыл бұрын
I meant "that country!"
@Kate-oy6yv
@Kate-oy6yv Жыл бұрын
We need more John Stewarts in the world
@JuuB406
@JuuB406 Жыл бұрын
"Be the Jon Stewart you hope to see in the world" - Arleen Lorrance (Beau of the fifth column)
@ricardoggarcia3638
@ricardoggarcia3638 Жыл бұрын
Yes we do!
@johnf8064
@johnf8064 Жыл бұрын
Leibowitz
@spicyirwin5835
@spicyirwin5835 Жыл бұрын
That's for sure! Compassion for others with integrity to fight for it.💜🙏💜
@traviscutler9912
@traviscutler9912 Жыл бұрын
Democracy has been spread pretty f'ing thin under these two. John giving a platform to them without asking the real questions was as bad as Bill Maher's interview with Benjamin Netanyahu and accepting everything he said as fact. Super disappointed with John helping rehabilitate these literal war criminals (not my opinion, the legal definition under the UN), WHY!?!?!
@fishossalguero
@fishossalguero Жыл бұрын
Great conversation, the John Stewart effect!
@spdelco
@spdelco Жыл бұрын
Those two women still don't have any idea of the damage they created in the world. You let them off the hook
@stevedixon4787
@stevedixon4787 Жыл бұрын
Oh, what happened to the John Stewart I love? First your pining medals on Nazis at Disneyland? And now you’re treating two war criminals like they're royalty? Those two lovely ladies should be in jail, how many innocent people were murdered because of their greed?
@dequationblog
@dequationblog Жыл бұрын
00:20 "You can now get your very own set of salt n' pepper nodding dolls for only $29.95!"
@jabbertree
@jabbertree Жыл бұрын
Mind blowing to see how differently Jon treats these women compared to how he treats their male counter-parts. I mean I'm not stupid enough to have thought that Jon Stewart was some singularly honest & genuine guy, but this is a full display of him going limp, cowering to both of these women.
@Bell_plejdo568p
@Bell_plejdo568p 2 ай бұрын
He’s controlled opposition
@saemsyed2275
@saemsyed2275 Жыл бұрын
I love you Jon, but getting 2 of the biggest Warhawks to talk about authoritarian regimes was....ironic.
@butternutsauce
@butternutsauce Жыл бұрын
I understand what you mean and agree somewhat but I think there can be a distinction. Authoritarianism at home can be very different from authoritarianism abroad, and they don’t always go hand in hand.
@mariojanaf5474
@mariojanaf5474 Жыл бұрын
@@butternutsauce usually is, but still, I'm not from the states...I can see only a one-sided USA raping every country they can of resources and free will...getting them addicted to the dollar as currency...spreading freedom - USA freedom... Africom is the next stage...
@butternutsauce
@butternutsauce Жыл бұрын
@@mariojanaf5474 You’re not wrong at all
@JRMCNEA
@JRMCNEA Жыл бұрын
No it cant. People seem to forget what authoriteriaism in America has done. Our government has been targeting groups inside our country in the same way it does those outside. We just as a reflex seem to have these "its not what it is" goggles we put on when at home. MLK and Malcolm X were just individual acts of violence. But an Iranian girl gets killed is from the very top of the government there. Our allies are carrying out terror attacks in europe. But we are under the patriot act in the U.S. to protect us from terror. Our government has been lying to us since its creation. But we act loke abused children running into the arms of their abusive parents.
@Anuchan
@Anuchan Жыл бұрын
The international stage still relies on a balance of power. In spite of events in recent years, people around the world still appreciate American strength and look to us for leadership.
@PaulVoas
@PaulVoas Жыл бұрын
Empires die. Jon’s ultimate argument. This conversation was amazing.
@jurgbangerter1023
@jurgbangerter1023 Жыл бұрын
USA AND BRITAIN ARE GOING DOWN...because there is a new Sheriff in town and its not USA anymore...BRICS KICKS US ASS
@CK-ur2ev
@CK-ur2ev Жыл бұрын
All nations, not just empires, will die eventually. How can something that did not exist in the beginning of time see the end of time?
@medicnmute
@medicnmute Жыл бұрын
@@CK-ur2ev is that a quote from somewhere? Sounds like a very interesting viewpoint of time
@thewaffle003
@thewaffle003 Жыл бұрын
@@CK-ur2ev That's the project, man. Let's see how far we can take this thing.
@Dennis-nc3vw
@Dennis-nc3vw Жыл бұрын
America is not an empire. An empire doesn't say conquer a country like Japan, put a gun to their heads, and then say "Japan, destroy our auto industry." An empire doesn't conquer a country like Iraq and then say "Iraq, elect Sadrists into parliament, deny us the right to keep any permanent bases in your country in 2008 SOFA, and let Russia use your airspace." An empire doesn't conquer a country like Afghanistan and then say "Afghanistan, write Islam into your constitution and make it illegal to convert to Christianity." Etc.
@smitmahajani7663
@smitmahajani7663 Жыл бұрын
To all those people who are disappointed about why Jon didn't press them more about their roles in foreign wars, regime changes etc., they need to understand that not all interviews are of the same type. I'm not saying all interviews should be like this one above, but a few of such ones, if done as well as Jon has here, do actually serve a key purpose. This interview, right from the get-go, is of the nature wherein the interviewer sets a direction to the conversation by asking a question, and then gives a free reign to the interviewees to answer what they want. We've all seen Jon question their policies in the past, and he obviously isn't someone who's going to back away from questioning politicians. He's done it in the past, he still does it, and he'll keep doing it. These kinds of interviews are also important in their own way, because they give a lot of space/time to the intervieews to speak their mind. Politicians of their stature are used to being interrupted/confronted, "prepping" for interviews and giving readymade answers, it's all second-nature to them. So, them not being in that kind of an environment makes them relatively more honest and "casual", and gives the people/viewers/citizens a deeper insight into their thought processes. It disarms the politicians. The politicians basically "reveal"/"expose" themselves, as we saw in the case of both of these women. That's why such interviews are important. They shed a light into what makes politicians take stupid or dangerous decisions, so that people (and by extension, the electorate) are more aware of these things in order to look out for such signs in the politicians of today or tomorrow/of the future.
@christophorfaust2457
@christophorfaust2457 Жыл бұрын
I live in deep red NC and 39:07 ask people all the time to think of a world where Trump wasn’t bat-shit crazy… and I have to tell you after watching this interview, I’ll be adding a new line, “a world where Hillary wasn’t a serial liar and Wall Street hag”. All the talent in the world and truly understands the problem
@shawnosborne163
@shawnosborne163 Жыл бұрын
Nothing will ever discredited these shameless repitles . These two people have more blood on their hands than all the world serial killers put together.
@astheskylarksings
@astheskylarksings Жыл бұрын
Da fuq? “Nothing will ever discredited these shameless reptiles.” 26 likes to an unintelligible comment. This is America.
@ChannelMath
@ChannelMath Жыл бұрын
@@astheskylarksings please. obviously Shawn meant "discredit". you couldn't figure that out? Also, there is only one like. At least that's what I'm shown
@astheskylarksings
@astheskylarksings Жыл бұрын
@@ChannelMath eh? What does: “Nothing will ever discredit these shameless reptiles” mean? 😅
@astheskylarksings
@astheskylarksings Жыл бұрын
@Aden Lind let’s start with English. 🤷‍♂️ Nothing will ever discredit these shameless reptiles.” Explain what this means. That they are loved and can say anything they want?
@thor9563
@thor9563 Жыл бұрын
@@ChannelMath They made it that far in life. Too many of you can't even keep peace in your own family! Remember, a little humility can help you! Happy Thanksgiving!
@morgaffi
@morgaffi Жыл бұрын
I had to stop thinking of Jon Stewart as a comedian in order to not be constantly amazed by his grasp of history in world affairs. He has in front of him two people with somewhat different views on many critical matters, and yet he managed a remarkably civil and informed conversation, he has all the qualities of a great reporter
@smythteamofwilliampittsoth32
@smythteamofwilliampittsoth32 Жыл бұрын
Agree. Thank you Jon Stewart. Jon is serving a very important role in our current situation.
@MichaelHarris-wo7od
@MichaelHarris-wo7od Жыл бұрын
Bravo John, 👏👏👏👏 Bravo. You take a common sense and matters of fact approach to the larger issues at hand to make a point so that individuals who try and argue against those points can't really defend their stances and sound sincere doing it. It's a talent and you have it my friend.
@MA-qe2sn
@MA-qe2sn Жыл бұрын
Stewart is a fraud-his Dad worked for Dept of Treasury& his brother was a WallstreetCOO. He’s a plant to deflect and divide Americans-he especially pushes racial division. Why? Because if poor white&black people are busy blaming each other they won’t blame the Ruling Class who run things. Has JS ever once mentioned the NSA, the CFR, the Federal Reserve, the Trilateral Commission, Central Banks, Darpa...??? Nope: and he won’t because he’ll virtue signal by claiming he supports Veterans but he never calls out the Globalists&Banking Dynasties behind all wars.
@KingMinosxxvi
@KingMinosxxvi Жыл бұрын
sure...whatever you say.
@koch1467
@koch1467 Жыл бұрын
It was awful that he allowed the "we believed he had weapons of mass destruction"-lie to go unchallenged.
@warrenmusselman9173
@warrenmusselman9173 Жыл бұрын
From stand up comedian to discussing geopolitics and American hegemony with two former Secretaries of State. What an arc!
@sam9206
@sam9206 11 ай бұрын
This was a really great conversation.
@lindaleeyou1234
@lindaleeyou1234 Жыл бұрын
Hey look, he actually booked part of THE PROBLEM.😂
@Auguur
@Auguur Жыл бұрын
Hey look, MAGA tears, how ordinary.
@dontforgettolike7127
@dontforgettolike7127 Жыл бұрын
@@Auguur moron, you can hate Clinton and rice without being a trump supporter. YOU are part of the problem.
@carlastarkey4775
@carlastarkey4775 Жыл бұрын
K that was funny...
@tomlydon3123
@tomlydon3123 Жыл бұрын
@@Auguur You think anyone critical of the military industrial complex is MAGA....grow up, fasclst.
@Ninthtail9
@Ninthtail9 Жыл бұрын
@@Auguur I am going to start off by saying, I am on the Left. Not a liberal. A leftist. Lindalee is correct, They are both parts of the problem. One is a war criminal. Both are deeply corrupt. HRC and Bill destroyed the Democratic party with corporate money.
@brightmuronda2678
@brightmuronda2678 Жыл бұрын
After all what we know about WMDs, I was expecting a little more contrition from Rice.
@ChannelMath
@ChannelMath Жыл бұрын
They never do and never will (and not just these two). It's horrifying
@moochee22
@moochee22 Жыл бұрын
No shame. None. She's despicable.
@PutXi_Whipped
@PutXi_Whipped Жыл бұрын
I don’t expect much from psychopaths TBF
@megg.6651
@megg.6651 Жыл бұрын
Or, some PUSHBACK from Stewart!!
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