Hilleberg soulo is in trouble! Because of Vern1 OR IS IT !

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5 ай бұрын

Well we all know what has just been releases if your an avid hiker wildcamper then you know that Nortent has releases the Vern 1 & OMG What a tent this will be.
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Thank you to Andy at ‪@BackpackingUK‬ for letting me use some of his footage
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@grahamjackson3388 4 ай бұрын

The way I see it. Get the tent that suits your own needs best. Whether is a HB BL, or a Lanshan 2 and so on. Each product has its place.

@escapeoutdoors. 4 ай бұрын

That’s the way to think. You’re on my wave link 🔗. 🤙🏼

@mrnobodieswildcampingadventure 13 күн бұрын

I feel Vern 1 and 2 have taken a lot of design from the Kuiu Storm Star, yet in no way can compete with it. The Kuiu Storm Star can withstand winds 60 plus miles per hour (watched the wind test on all sides). The Kuiu Storm Star 2p is still king, rock solid bomb shelter, and very little interior flapping. Now this is a 4 Season tent that has always eaten the Hilleberg Soulo BL hands down!

@escapeoutdoors. 10 күн бұрын

Sorry I didn’t see this I agree it seems like every tent maker takes a little from others & I have had my eye on the Kuiu for a long time. But when you look at makers like Nature hike they all have the same design at a much cheaper price I’m not saying there better but it does make you 🤔 think.

@andrass.2842 5 ай бұрын

I'd love to see a side by side comparison...in high winds. I feel like I'd still take the Soulo for 3 reasons. 1st: 2.4 kg is already a bit heavy but still a bit better than 2.6. I know for most normal sized people, 200 grams difference is insignificant. 2nd: The tent (Vern 1) looks pretty bulky when it's packed, and it takes a huge space in the backpack, but of course I should wait with this statement till I see a comparison. 3rd: We know that a Hilleberg can last 10-20-30 years. How long a Vern 1 will last, we don't know yet.

@escapeoutdoors. 5 ай бұрын

Now thats a Great comment if I get it then I’ll do it because I think your right those extra 200g can make all the difference. My problem is the moment you stick an air mat in that’s it no head room. I always think about the slap off the wife if I order it though .😬

@Treefrogging 4 ай бұрын

Put it in a stuff sack and it will be half the size I can loose 200g in two meals.

@ervinslens 4 ай бұрын

Lovely adventure bud! Shots are great

@escapeoutdoors. 4 ай бұрын

Much appreciated thank you 🙏.

@MancOutdoors 5 ай бұрын

Simple honest to the point review top man 👍

@escapeoutdoors. 5 ай бұрын

Some people just don’t like honesty but it’s nice to know you appreciate it thank you .

@Treefrogging 4 ай бұрын

I’m 6’7” and love the soulo, my go to tent. Everything goes outside and I vent it as well as I can , ace tent , just bought the vern1 2024 as it gives more space and more options for protection from the wind because of the doors . I will compensate for the weight by ditching other stuff . I thought the tent would be a winner. Just carry less water and get it later in the day . 500 quid is a no brainer

@escapeoutdoors. 4 ай бұрын

Ah yeah with out a doubt mate that’s the way to do it. My wife spent my tent money on a week down south not chuffed & valley & peak are out of stock absolutely gutted. I see divorce on the cards 😂

@Treefrogging 4 ай бұрын

I ordered direct from nortent, they took the money so I’m hoping it’s in soon . I thought they would be gone as soon as Andy’s video came out from backpacking uk 🇬🇧 bought it

@escapeoutdoors. 4 ай бұрын

@stevecopeland9170 Dam Dam Dam Dam Dam I’ll do it but I’m in no rush. I love to go out and don’t usually review a tent until a year after I have had it I’ll be patient I’ll be a good husband to the wife besides we have a holiday home on the beach next month good chance for a beach camp 😆

@escapeoutdoors. 4 ай бұрын

@@Treefrogging I couldn’t help it Nortent took my money too ( evil laugh ) my wife will kill me 😬

@Treefrogging 4 ай бұрын

@@escapeoutdoors. 🤣

@ringperm 4 ай бұрын

I like your style 😅 I do not own any Hilleberg, but have both the older Verns in addition to the PC version coming in soon. So far, the tents have been great, and I am sure the 2024 versions will be even better. I am not sure if I will pull the trigger myself. Looking forward to watching a comparison video sometimes in the near future 👍

@escapeoutdoors. 4 ай бұрын

You will get a true comparison as I’m not sure about the true measurements either also I have to wait to next month to receive this so not to happy either I missed the cut off date

@briancheadle3509 5 ай бұрын

Great review. Just sold my Hilleberg Soulo for £700 and bought the Vern 1 2024 for £520 from NORTENT itself. Only problem is I’m in Spain and the tent’s in the UK so not seen it yet.😂

@escapeoutdoors. 5 ай бұрын

Just feel for sorry for the person that brought the hilliberg I take it he didn’t know about the vern 1 Ooopps👍

@baldheadedpriest 5 ай бұрын

How you manage your get one in Uk saying April for stock !

@escapeoutdoors. 5 ай бұрын

@@baldheadedpriest I take it you looked at valley & peak. Yes that are still out of stock. You have to be on the ball for this kind of Tent.

@briancheadle3509 4 ай бұрын

I bought it from NORTENT themselves. Go to their site. Takes about 4 days when I got mine. (Still unseen till Saturday)😂

@escapeoutdoors. 4 ай бұрын

Accidentally hit he buy now. I think I flinched

@Deadushka99 5 ай бұрын

It’s just a ploy to get another Hilleberg for yourself!!! Also I have a very light Lanshan 2 is someone want to swap their heavy Soulo. Be quick!

@escapeoutdoors. 5 ай бұрын

Could be kinda like the green or red this time. I’m playing collect them all 😆

@michaelwarren5480 4 ай бұрын

Hi you can buy the tent for £486 direct from nortent. I’ve put it up & it’s very well made & got 20 pegs with it. Really happy & I’m going to get out in it next week 😃

@escapeoutdoors. 4 ай бұрын

Envious not fair…. I missed the cut off point I don’t get mine till after April 25th absolutely gutted I was. & yes I ordered from Nortent too

@Fellmandave1 4 ай бұрын

Controversial But brave. As a Vern 1 early adoptor, I have found so far, it's looking good. Time will tell, but Nortent are not a new company and have a great line up. Thanks for the video.

@escapeoutdoors. 4 ай бұрын

Thanks mate .Ssomeone had to say it.

@leeroy5190 4 ай бұрын

Ive ordered the vern 1. If I could have stretched to a brand new hillaberg I would have instead. It's made from stronger materials, is more waterproof and is proven to be an absolute tank, whereas the vern 1 is still in its infancy. I have no doubt the vern is a great tent but I wouldnt sell a hillaberg if I had one, to get the vern 1.

@escapeoutdoors. 4 ай бұрын

Good point and I think exactly the same I’ll still keep my hilly but vern 1 I’m expecting to receive it around end of April 🙏 🤞 I hope.

@adge_ventures4915 4 ай бұрын

Buy a kuiu stom star 2p. Better all rounder than both with way more features. It can be bought on offer for £485 too so its a no brainer 🙂 Enjoy the madness of finding a tent 😂 Adge

@escapeoutdoors. 4 ай бұрын

Yeah the Kuiu look pretty cool 👌

@frenzy0018 3 ай бұрын

I see the vern has broken poles and both ends collapse in strong winds

@escapeoutdoors. 3 ай бұрын

So maybe the hype is over already or has the video been made by someone who has affiliated them selves with a well known brand. 🤔

@frenzy0018 3 ай бұрын

@@escapeoutdoors. it’s a good looking tent and I’m sure it’s good value but it’s been over hyped as a solo killer and now it’s been tested in strong winds and failed big time🤷‍♂️

@escapeoutdoors. 3 ай бұрын

@@frenzy0018 yeah literally just watched the video. The link is below well thank god I kept my Soulo 🤣 I always seem to think they get to hyped without a good test. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rLSjoLqFldWtkoU.htmlsi=88eg0X8YoNa8zPoJ

@escapeoutdoors. 3 ай бұрын

@@frenzy0018 too true my friend but now we understand about the price difference between the soulo and the vern1

@darkshaman7087 3 ай бұрын

@@escapeoutdoors.but people not read the booklet that came with it and it mentions about double poling the tent

@Sneaky-Sneaky 3 ай бұрын

It seems likely you should think again. It’s does not appear to be nearly as strong as the hilleberg. Have you seen any of the recent Vern tent problems with structural integrity(pole snapping) ? This tent is no Hilleberg….its not even a true mountaineering tent. Good luck!

@escapeoutdoors. 3 ай бұрын

Yes I have seen the latest video but I still have my soulo and I wouldn’t get rid of it . the vern 1 is still on order for me so I still get to ditch the order if I want to.

@escapeoutdoors. 3 ай бұрын

Actually I’ll tell you a secret I kept my Hillerberg . Cancelled my purchase order on the Vern one and brought for the same price the Durston Xmid 1 & 2. From the US . This will be in the upcoming vid next week

@Sneaky-Sneaky 2 ай бұрын

@@escapeoutdoors. Good decision !

@camping_guru_uk 4 ай бұрын

So the Hilleberg in great condition can only be worth say £300-£350 now, I mean if you can buy a new, with warranty Nortent for £520 why would you pay anymore than £350 for a minty fresh Hilleberg, what do you think.

@escapeoutdoors. 4 ай бұрын

I wouldn’t go that far just yet I think second hand for a soulo now you would have to either match the competitor or prove why it’s still better investing in the Hilleberg. As a second hand tent can the hydrostatic head still withstand that amount of water as for selling the Hilleberg BNWT I don’t think that Hilleberg can really justify the price no more. But for instance if you look at the specs the ground sheet on the Hilleberg has a hydrostatic head of 15000 where as the vern1 has 10000 on the floor. there is still certain things to weigh up And I’ll be honest I have just payed for the vern 1 and it cost me £480 with no ground sheet from Nortent direct so when it comes I’ll check them both out .

@camping_guru_uk 4 ай бұрын

@@escapeoutdoors. I think you are right but I think in time, a short time the used prices of the Hilleberg will drop drastically, they have to but if someone wants/needs to sell the Hilleberg now is the time before everyone knows about the Nortent.

@camping_guru_uk 4 ай бұрын

@@escapeoutdoors. By the way, I have the Asta Gear Yun Chuan 2p 3s which I've bought for my first long ish walk (Cumbria Way). I'd love to see your thoughts on it. I know you are a Lanshan fan (rightly so) but I think the Yun Chuan is a real contender

@escapeoutdoors. 4 ай бұрын

@camping_guru_uk oh I’ve been looking. Alright obviously a contender or underdog to the durston xmid 2p yes very nice and more budget friendly. Funny enough I have just purchased an old tent that was a budget one for my daughter that was the naturehike monger and to be honest I’m impressed with it. Kind of matches with my cloud peak 2. May have to do a return vid for the cloud peak 2 and monger side by side comparison with thoughts on cash vs Hilleberg 😂 or is that too much lol

@camping_guru_uk 4 ай бұрын

@@escapeoutdoors. Do it lol. It's like everything, depending on what the conditions are a lot of the Chinese brand stuff will do the job, my AegisAir down sleeping bag is sooo good for the money and my NatureHike Rock 65+5 backpack for less than £60 delivered is crazy good.

@JoshMainka 4 ай бұрын

It's Soulo, pronounced like the Star Trek Lieutenant and spelt Hilleberg, not Hillerberg!!

@escapeoutdoors. 4 ай бұрын

Yeah a little miss-spelt name. I noticed after.Always makes me question every vid I do but well done for spotting it 👍

@GoodBlokeOutdoors 4 ай бұрын

Its pronounced Solo .. as in Han Solo

@escapeoutdoors. 4 ай бұрын

@@GoodBlokeOutdoors I’m not going to correct you hilleberg.com/eng/tent/red-label-tents/soulo/

@GoodBlokeOutdoors 4 ай бұрын

@@escapeoutdoors. yeah i only knew it was pronounced ‘solo’ from watching Petra Hilleberg interview

@escapeoutdoors. 4 ай бұрын

@GoodBlokeOutdoors that’s ok brother no worries I did spell it wrong on the title …my bad. 🤙🏼

@clairerichman3293 5 ай бұрын

Hi 👋

@escapeoutdoors. 5 ай бұрын

& hi back at ya👋

@gazza1858 5 ай бұрын

Take 2 😂

@escapeoutdoors. 5 ай бұрын

Gotta do it right bloody Pc tent Dam that thing 🎬😂

@hedleythorne 3 ай бұрын

The question is, what does the extra £400 buy you for the Hilleberg? You can buy a Vern 1 and a new bike for the same as a Soulo.

@escapeoutdoors. 3 ай бұрын

Well the soulo does have a better hydrostatic head but in all cases your right. I’ll hopefully soon be able to do a comparison and it will be direct from me no BS I’m not sponsored.

@freeforester1717 3 ай бұрын

See Rowan Wildcamp’s most recent Dartmoor trip with the Vern. Failure in terms of leaking and pole failures. Many will say, well I won’t be so daft as to go out in that weather, and that may be true, but it’s the weather which decides, not you. If you want a strong tent for a good value cost I’d suggest looking at the Asta Gear Crescent 2 in 20D for a 4 season tent in wind conditions up to 40mph - ALL the performance required for most sane wildcampers, and representing fantastic value for money, which is the principal reason that the Vern is being widely touted; lighter to carry too. No tent is invincible, but there is a law of diminishing returns observable as the wind speed approaches 40mph and above. Labels don’t cover your ar5€ when the wind’s a-blowing, and beyond a certain level, you’re just spending more money for achieving the same purpose, ie a safe, dry and hopefully comfortable night in the wilds, but beyond a certain level, you’re just tempting fate.😊

@hedleythorne 3 ай бұрын

@freeforester1717 thanks for that, will check that out. Great info

@smellyoldsock1553 4 ай бұрын

Nortent Vern 1 (2024) imcoming on Friday according to DHL. I wasn"t going to get the Hilleberg, instead I was looking at the Kuiu Storm Star but the vents on it prevented this. I'm wary of initial Yourube hype especially when most early reviews have come from those that were gifted the Vern 1. I paid with my own money and I think this could compliment my existing collection of tents. All bases are hopefully covered now. Only criticism I can see prior to buying the Vern 1 is the lack of factory seam sealing.

@smellyoldsock1553 3 ай бұрын

Wow this didn't age well.

@leerolfe5332 4 ай бұрын

I've had 3 Hillebergs and found them all over rated. I'm 6ft 2 and they are just not big enough. Akto, Soulo and Enan. All went on Fleabay. They're all 30% over priced compared to whats on offer these days. Hilleberg are just thriving from the rep they achieved decades ago ;)

@escapeoutdoors. 4 ай бұрын

😆well as stated not any more I can only see them starting to change their prices. You put another big flashy company out there and they will lose in the end . Kind of routing for the vern 1 now anyway

@leerolfe5332 4 ай бұрын

@@escapeoutdoors. happening with a lot of the old school big brands eigh bud. They are slow to move with the times and the smaller guys are hitting them off their throne. Anyway loving the channel! You seem a similar age to myself with the same buzz about the hills. You also seem like ex mil? The way you mention the British army bivvy bag in the Alpkit Elan review. Still got mine from the 90’s. (Ex Guardsman) 💂🏻‍♀️👍🏽

@escapeoutdoors. 4 ай бұрын

@@leerolfe5332 😂 good guess 2nd batt royal Anglian

@leerolfe5332 4 ай бұрын

@@escapeoutdoors. Hardly a guess bro. Stands out to a fellow infantryman. Well it was either that or you’re a massively experienced mountain lover. Yeah obv a bit of both nowadays I guess. Stands out you know your stuff mate and have come to KZfaq to show it. A lot of guys over the years I’ve been watching do it the other way around. They learn what they’re doing after they’ve learned how to make vids. 🤣

@escapeoutdoors. 4 ай бұрын

@@leerolfe5332 yeah you definitely took some notes. But I’m learning as I’m moving but we evolve as we move and again I’m just going with the flow As for KZfaq I didn’t realise the truth and it kind of knocked me every time I put a vid up it was slow to move. Didn’t bother me to much till I realised what the big players were doing. Now I realise I don’t have to be like them because I know the truth about how they do it.