HINGE TALK with MFJJ // Shot Execution When it Matters

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HINGE TALK with MFJJ // Shot Execution When it Matters.. Josh Jones of Spokane Valley Archery helps us talk through pros and cons of hunting with a hinge. He also talks through what his personal release setup is, and some shot execution talk. #elkshape #tinktink
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@Mckinney129
@Mckinney129 2 жыл бұрын
If you guys did a slow long video on the border of being boring and went thru form, and proper pulling (using your elbow vs forearm) how to actually pull back through the shot correctly. I will cry happy tears. I don’t have anyone near me to coach me through a shot and I would love it ! Thanks for all you do
@sgreene2036
@sgreene2036 5 ай бұрын
You want slow and boring check out John Dudley. He’s amazing and very thorough. Kinda reminds me of the old visine commercials.
@chetmanley2883
@chetmanley2883 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a video on how many times I should dry fire my bow to get it warmed up before a day of shooting.
@tylerdoucet3248
@tylerdoucet3248 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@caydenmulliken6932
@caydenmulliken6932 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@landonfogle5903
@landonfogle5903 Жыл бұрын
Top tier question. I have been trying to find this out for years
@BiggBells
@BiggBells Жыл бұрын
Ouch shots fired, man down.
@trevinjacobson6655
@trevinjacobson6655 9 ай бұрын
Gotta get that cold string warmed up before hunting 💯
@tylercarder581
@tylercarder581 2 жыл бұрын
This guy knows his shit. 👍 I love it when he's in the video.
@TSRThom
@TSRThom Жыл бұрын
20 seconds that explain the correct way to shot a hinge. Push and pull. The rotation makes it go off. Hand relaxed. MFJJ is definitely my favorite KZfaq content creator all things bows. Thank you so much. Greetings from Germany Tom
@dylan7997
@dylan7997 2 жыл бұрын
I find that after shooting with a hinge for a while will greatly improve accuracy with a index release too!
@MisterReach
@MisterReach 2 жыл бұрын
I would love if you guys would do a video or series on the top mistakes beginners make while learning how to shoot a bow. Or even just a video on the basic mechanics of shooting as a beginner.
@kennethbartlett1465
@kennethbartlett1465 2 жыл бұрын
More 'how-to shoot a hinge' vids with mfjj please
@codythompson6960
@codythompson6960 Жыл бұрын
This is the best description of how to shoot a hinge I’ve heard yet.
@timbow50
@timbow50 2 жыл бұрын
Well said reliable spot on information. 👍👍
@josephbettis6584
@josephbettis6584 2 жыл бұрын
Great advice...love you guys videos
@FlyinFryman
@FlyinFryman 5 ай бұрын
Love it, love the content,,,! You guys are crushing it,,, keep up the good work, great community going,,, but question; what is a good technique to break rushing/drive by’s/ out not hoping on target long enough: forms of target panic,, I’ve tried everything, best way I found is to always be prepared to let down, and complete that with my shoot sequence, and kind of trick my mind, then after the shot is good and set, then I release…
@RobertWilliams82-22
@RobertWilliams82-22 2 жыл бұрын
Tim, does that Scott allow you to anchor in the same spot as the UV hinge? Are the throats the same length is what I’m asking… my carter wise choice has to have a longer d-loop then my hinge, so I can’t “practice” with my hinge while my bow is set up for hunting because it changes my anchor
@evanvavoulas4011
@evanvavoulas4011 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that I learnt more from this video than from my club thanks
@jeffreypereira9697
@jeffreypereira9697 2 жыл бұрын
Done - just subscribed! keep up the killer content.
@tylerwest337
@tylerwest337 Жыл бұрын
Can you guys make a video showing the difference in stability of all the different releases. Im in the process of changing my bow out and would like to try different releases as well.
@donfrance3
@donfrance3 2 жыл бұрын
Hunt and shoot with a hinge keeps your aim honest. I've shot a 2 finger for decades for everything up to American Buffalo. You just gotta commit your focus on aiming and trust the process..
@ElkShape
@ElkShape 2 жыл бұрын
Rad!!
@Ennis09
@Ennis09 2 жыл бұрын
Even if you shoot a thumb with back tension to activate it, would you still recommend trying a hinge or back tension release? I only 3d and target shoot
@Tony-tz8vv
@Tony-tz8vv 2 жыл бұрын
How to properly balance a bow with stabilizers. Shooting in the video and adjusting the angles and weights on them.
@ApexPredatorOutdoors
@ApexPredatorOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a video on MFJ talking about foot position cuz I hear so many different people say different things. You got Dudley saying to be standing at almost a 45° angle, then I've seen rogue saying to stand perfectly perpendicular to the Target...
@Farmersforever1993
@Farmersforever1993 2 жыл бұрын
I believe it’s personally preference, it comes down to your bow arm shoulder. I know mine is always up if I’m standing at 90 degrees to target but if i stand at 45 degrees my bow arm shoulder is down. I thinks it’s just preference and your bow arm shoulder.
@ElkShape
@ElkShape 2 жыл бұрын
word! short answer is 45ish but MFJJ can over the finer details some time in the future - tC
@ApexPredatorOutdoors
@ApexPredatorOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
@@ElkShape Thanks man. Im always tinkering Always a student!
@poppasmurf15
@poppasmurf15 2 жыл бұрын
I think opening our front foot is the critical piece. I shoot with my front toe at the instep of my back foot, and opened up almost 45deg. I think it gives you the best clearance and drops your shoulder...but not so much that you end up pulling laterally at the shot release....just my .02 but I think I'm probably in the majority here.
@ApexPredatorOutdoors
@ApexPredatorOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
@@poppasmurf15 that's how I've always shot as well. I'm starting to see more and more people talk about almost being perfectly 90° to the Target. I was just wondering where that's coming from? To each their own for sure
@mooch3006
@mooch3006 2 жыл бұрын
I would be interested in hearing your thoughts on the Tru Ball Goat release
@cwalter2013
@cwalter2013 2 жыл бұрын
Thoughts on back tension release like the Carter evolution.
@spincast1974
@spincast1974 10 ай бұрын
Back tension is a great way to train to shoot and form,,, I bought a less expensive one . A B3 ghost what a wonderful back tension release.
@dusanpavlovic2201
@dusanpavlovic2201 Жыл бұрын
but joel said that the most accurate way is to rotate it like it's supposed to shoot
@hamster2763
@hamster2763 2 жыл бұрын
Stan perfex long neck (thumb button)and the Ultraview hinge have the same POI
@lukesandri6576
@lukesandri6576 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent, thanks! Anyone else have suggestions to match a long neck thumb perfex?
@jasonjohn1978
@jasonjohn1978 2 жыл бұрын
Stan makes a perfex tension release that’s identical to there perfex thumb release.
@Orr_s
@Orr_s 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly my thoughts on this too! Too bad theres no one local near me remotely close that will actually show me in person, ive watched countless youtube vids though and practiced a lot to get form and shot execution to be what i think is pretty good
@smau990
@smau990 2 жыл бұрын
So do I want a tension release or a hinge?
@christophermetcalf2177
@christophermetcalf2177 2 жыл бұрын
Please please please make a step by step video on how to shoot the ultra view HINGE!!!
@ryanparent8880
@ryanparent8880 2 жыл бұрын
Hi I have the same hinge but I'd yours a medium or large?
@knathanp8447
@knathanp8447 2 жыл бұрын
Sumnabeatch, I wanna try, but I’m afraid I’ll make myself worse. I shoot a tru ball fang 4 now. I have tried 2 fingers and love the action. What would bring me to try something else new?
@crossbowhunter9118
@crossbowhunter9118 2 жыл бұрын
What is the difference with a hinge release and a back tension release? Are they the same thing different name?
@johnarnold2278
@johnarnold2278 Жыл бұрын
Hinge or resistance release. Is one better than another?
@jimr7154
@jimr7154 2 жыл бұрын
Love to see a video on the back tension release
@billymartin1158
@billymartin1158 2 жыл бұрын
Same here.
@ElkShape
@ElkShape 2 жыл бұрын
thanks all!
@kennethbartlett1465
@kennethbartlett1465 2 жыл бұрын
I third this motion 👍
@YatesImaging
@YatesImaging 2 жыл бұрын
What hinge matches with with Scott Sigma?
@orsonbroadbent3453
@orsonbroadbent3453 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks try it the off season thanks
@Farmersforever1993
@Farmersforever1993 2 жыл бұрын
Stance towards target and bow arm shoulder positions.
@ElkShape
@ElkShape 2 жыл бұрын
word!
@TheIVSaken
@TheIVSaken 5 ай бұрын
Back tension releases scare TF outa me, I just do not trust the draw cycle and I do not want to hit myself or misfire.
@ryanparent8880
@ryanparent8880 2 жыл бұрын
What hinge do you use to practice????
@patrickchavez7783
@patrickchavez7783 2 жыл бұрын
Video on how to properly shoot a thumb button!??
@michaelwelechenko5490
@michaelwelechenko5490 2 жыл бұрын
Could you please cover proper grip on bow !
@TheDruxlol
@TheDruxlol 2 жыл бұрын
would you recommend "sweep through" shooters to pick up a hinge? Shot my whole life swinging the pin through the target because i've never been able to hold, fairly good at this not sure if that's a transition worth investing time in.
@michaelcolthart4006
@michaelcolthart4006 2 жыл бұрын
100%
@paytenblevins3401
@paytenblevins3401 2 жыл бұрын
It’s definitely worth it, swinging will never be as good as holding and rotating through the shot. Learn to hold even if it takes longer than you might like because it will but it’s 100% worth it. Ask how many top level archers swing through or pull up to the pin from bottom up or vise versa… they don’t. Just draw your bow back with a arrow in it and hold it till you can’t hold it any longer, then let it down and continue to do it without aiming at a target then start to put a target out without firing yet and finally when you can hold somewhat steady, start to fire. Hope this helps
@Ibelieveinfreedom
@Ibelieveinfreedom 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, would like to know what MFJ thinks about the back tension releases with safeties on them?? Can they be as good to learn the back tension process???
@Orr_s
@Orr_s 2 жыл бұрын
My silverback or any release like it really got me ready to shoot a hinge and thumb button style release the correct and proper form with pulling through during shot execution! And pulling through the correct way and with correct muscles, but took a fee months to really feel it correctly with watching lots of vids
@Ibelieveinfreedom
@Ibelieveinfreedom 2 жыл бұрын
@@Orr_s thank you!!!!!
@Bowhunterlake
@Bowhunterlake Жыл бұрын
@mfjj you are the man
@treeghost1978
@treeghost1978 2 жыл бұрын
I picked up a scott sigma based on Josh's opinions of that release and really.. really.. like it. Whats a tension/hinge release similar to the sigma that feels similar and hits similar? Thanks!
@ElkShape
@ElkShape 2 жыл бұрын
the ultraview is similar in feel.. - TC
@cliby83
@cliby83 2 жыл бұрын
Bare shaft arrow tuning! Lol, jk :) love the vids. Keep it going!
@ThatJamesGuy88
@ThatJamesGuy88 2 жыл бұрын
I have a hinge…. And it showed me my draw length is too long…. 🥲
@ElkShape
@ElkShape 2 жыл бұрын
Many of us have found that problem! - TC (including me)
@jamesshepherd7727
@jamesshepherd7727 Жыл бұрын
If you relax your whole hand the release will be really hard to get to go off. Have to keep the ring finger engaged while you pull. If you are having trouble getting the hinge to work just concentrate on pulling with the ring finger. It will fire every single time no issue. If you get into high pressure situations and you find the release not working fast enough just think about only your ring finger and it will fire. That finger is key to make them work. If you only have a 2 finger release then its your middle finger. I use both and the 2 finger requires me to pull through slightly harder. On calm days or indoors the 2 finger is a little more accurate for me. The extra back tension steadies my aim better. Another thing is to make sure your draw length and loop length are perfect. When you get this right the tension between your hands will make the pin just sit there. If your lengths are wrong the tension will move your pin. When all is right it feels like magic and everything is so easy. I string train with my release at least 100 times a day. It makes a difference.
@thedudenico3064
@thedudenico3064 2 жыл бұрын
Is it a really bad idea to rotate your fingers for it to go off?
@ElkShape
@ElkShape 2 жыл бұрын
i thought we covered that in the video.. not ideal according to MFJJ - TC
@thedudenico3064
@thedudenico3064 2 жыл бұрын
@@ElkShape y’all did but I wanted to be clear because it works for me, and I have tried pulling into the back wall and pushing the bow forward and didn’t work for me the shots would take forever to go off, it felt good though when they did. Any ideas for how I could get the shot off at a more appropriate time.
@mrcjd2001
@mrcjd2001 2 жыл бұрын
@@thedudenico3064 adjust it SLIGHTLY faster. I had the same problem on a Scott advantage, super pain to get the exact right spot ( no micro adjust...). Once I found it, works exactly like MFJJ describes.
@thedudenico3064
@thedudenico3064 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrcjd2001 I shoot that same release as you I’ve gotten it perfect though so I’m really afraid to make it hotter, but I might give it a try.
@paytenblevins3401
@paytenblevins3401 2 жыл бұрын
@@thedudenico3064 no don’t listen them, I’ve shot and learned from some of the best archers in the world and they all say the same thing when it comes to hinges… I’ll ask the same question they asked me. “What makes a hinge go off?” The answer is rotation regardless of what you think you’re doing, it will always take rotation to make a hinge go off. Now yes to a certain extent you’ll want to pull but only to keep steady and not to get lazy but don’t go overboard pulling and pushing because that’s not how it was meant to be, and it will make you worse at trying to become a top level archer or just better in general… which neither of these guys are top level not to be rude and not saying I’m any better but I don’t go out on social media preaching the wrong technique either. If you’re consistent and it still makes you surprised when it goes off then you’re doing fine, just don’t start cheating it and making the rotation quick to speed things up.
@Frozenlife2
@Frozenlife2 2 жыл бұрын
I’m terrified to draw a bow back with a hinge only shot one once with a hinge and came out little black and blue haha
@ElkShape
@ElkShape 2 жыл бұрын
its happened to plenty! practice with a shot trainer first, or just some extra string - TC
@Frozenlife2
@Frozenlife2 2 жыл бұрын
That’s what I did to practice with thumb button release I made one out of a elk shed I had and some D loop string
@donbeaver2437
@donbeaver2437 2 жыл бұрын
Learn to master it while it's set really, really "cold" or "slow". Once you have it figured out, then you can slightly adjust it so that it is faster and faster until you reach a setting that works really well for you.
@jons7e
@jons7e 2 жыл бұрын
Why choose a hinge over a tension release? Like a Silverback and Nock 2 It match up well.
@James.712
@James.712 2 жыл бұрын
Elk Shape and Chris Bee colab!
@blaydenzahner9379
@blaydenzahner9379 2 жыл бұрын
First comment lol
@ElkShape
@ElkShape 2 жыл бұрын
gangster!
@ObamaOsucksOass
@ObamaOsucksOass Жыл бұрын
MFJJ, have you shot the Hinge 2 and the Onnex Hinge? If so, thoughts?
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