History Of Electronic Drums Episode 5 (2000-2009)

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Way more than you really need to know about the origins of electronic drums and how they evolved. This is the History Of Electronic Drums: Episode 5. All the books, magazines, websites, and more that I used as sources are listed below.
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My Sources For This Series:
The Books: Electronic Drumfax: Vintage Electronic Drum Kits (1970-1990) and The Complete Simmons Drum Guide: The Rise And Fall Of Simmons Electronic Drums by Alex Graham. Those are the very best books on electronic drum history that you can buy. Go buy both of them, you won’t be disappointed. Another helpful book was Electronic Drums. By Frank Vilardi and Steve Tarshis. It was written around 1985 or so and features lots of mini-reviews of early electronic drums from the early 80s (it even comes with a Flexi-Disc record). The Complete Simmons Drum Book by Bob Henrit is also a great read. I was lucky to buy it for $60. The book is out of print and going for up to $160 online. Also the book All About Electronic Percussion by Mike Snyder.
The Magazines: Modern Drummer, Sound On Sound, Electronic & Music Maker Magazine, International Recording Musician & Recording World, One Two Testing, Music Technology, and Digital Drummer were all very useful. I had a date by date timeline from the book collection, but these magazine reviews gave me context on what the drums were like to play, how the drum companies were doing, and whether or not the different drum sets were any good! A big thank you to www.muzines.co.uk for archiving many of the older, out of print magazines I mentioned. Instead of having to spend thousands of dollars to buy those magazines, I was able to read the digitized versions on that website. The most comprehensive magazine for electronic drum information was Modern Drummer. People lovingly covered anything from 1960 to 1989, and the internet really helps with anything from 2000 onward. But there’s a large information gap when it comes to 90s era electronic drums. So I went through about 35,000 pages of Modern Drummer Magazine to fill in different information gaps I had and to find advertisement photos. Digital Drummer Magazine has been a great resource. It began in 2010 and has been very detailed in its coverage of edrums.
Websites: HellFireDrums.com was very helpful in its coverage of edrum news as it happened from 2007 to 2014, reading through all the posts helped not forget certain kits, and nail down the dates. The Vdrums.com forum has helped me countless times over the years, including during the making of this video. Seeing chatter about upcoming edrum kits from about 2000 until today helped me nail down difficult to find information. Believe it or not, Facebook has helped out tremendously. The “about'' section of each company page usually contains a brief history of the company and a founding date. Plus going through posts from different companies lets me see when a new cymbal for drum set was introduced. I of course visited dozens of company websites to get official information of different releases, but many delete old press releases and no longer list their drum lines beyond a generation or two. I can’t forget the Wayback Machine from Internetarchive.com. This amazing tool lets you see websites from whatever year you want, it helped my research in this video.
People: I contacted various people work in electronic drum companies. Including Kat Inc, 2Box, Diamond Drums, Roland, and Bertesi.
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@baterizmo
@baterizmo 3 жыл бұрын
I just binge watched the 5 episodes....great stuff...I can only imagine the amount of work that went into it, so thanks a lot for making it, Justin. Looking forward for the next one
@minidrummidary1246
@minidrummidary1246 3 жыл бұрын
Hey anyone realize he mixed many sets of drums together in the thumbnail
@LuiWallentinGttler
@LuiWallentinGttler 3 жыл бұрын
Yup ... it gave me a "Ah I see what you did there chuckle". And I had my own little quiz on what the different brands/series the drums came from.
@TerryParr
@TerryParr Жыл бұрын
Oh, I worked at Hot Topic during the mid/later 2000's. Music123 gave the HT employees a discount off their music gear. I used to play drums in high school and wanted to play again so I bought a Roland TD3 from them. So many awesome memories of that kit.
@kylestewart4444
@kylestewart4444 10 ай бұрын
My first exposure to electronic drums was playing Rock Band on family game nights.
@canadianlightbulbs
@canadianlightbulbs 3 жыл бұрын
The whole reason this took so long is the thumbnail
@zepholiva3745
@zepholiva3745 Жыл бұрын
I can agree with that😅
@writetovagelis1975
@writetovagelis1975 3 жыл бұрын
TD9 ...Still using it after 10 years...still love it!!
@natehine8541
@natehine8541 3 жыл бұрын
Never knew how many companies took a swing at it. Some of them looked cool.
@mcbarfson
@mcbarfson 3 жыл бұрын
Swing at it, I get it. Good on ya, mate.
@adityatyagi4009
@adityatyagi4009 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I was waiting for your latest installment in this series! Well done!
@tomyg2766
@tomyg2766 3 жыл бұрын
Well done Justine, excellent video as always, looking forward to the next edition
@zeronoize
@zeronoize 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video series, what a job you did Justin! Thank you. Can't wait for the next episode. Hi from France.
@mikestein1024
@mikestein1024 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you’re still doing your thing Justin I’m here till the end buddy a fan for life !!!!
@fuchsia5899
@fuchsia5899 3 жыл бұрын
The quality of your videos have improved so much and I have enjoyed your channel for a long time!
@PaulBirm
@PaulBirm 3 жыл бұрын
As always very educational- looking forward to the next one- Thank You!!!!
@Rhythmic1
@Rhythmic1 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Very informative. Thanks for putting that all together. I can't imagine how much research that must have taken and time to produce. Great job. :)
@massivecumshot
@massivecumshot 2 жыл бұрын
If there ever is an "Electronic Drum Museum", Justin will be its curator. If you ever came out with an E-drum coffee table book, I'd buy it.
@lobbyrobby
@lobbyrobby 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for doing this
@Therm0ptic
@Therm0ptic 3 жыл бұрын
Love the series. Thorough work, my dude. Episode 2 inspired me to get some 80s Simmons pads + an SDS1000 module for some synthwave tunes.
@ASDDrums
@ASDDrums 3 жыл бұрын
Another fantastic episode! I had no idea there was so much obscure electric equipment.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Another fantastic entry! Well done dude!
@demonicsweaters
@demonicsweaters 3 жыл бұрын
awesome as usual man, great video!
@miker5233
@miker5233 3 жыл бұрын
Justin keep up the good work you doing an excellent job
@haraz2594
@haraz2594 2 жыл бұрын
I have a millenium mps 400 from 2008 and still holds great!
@drummermomcjs
@drummermomcjs 3 жыл бұрын
Once again another great video full of nostalgia and information. I had the Yamaha DTXtreme II and loved it. It was my first electronic kit and It was fun to play. I loved the feel, the sound and the versatility and the features offered on that kit. My only misgiving was that sometimes the cymbals didn't sound and the hi-hat lacked the sensitivity to play nuanced stuff. Overall I loved that kit and had a lot of fun playing it while I had it.
@johnmiller4553
@johnmiller4553 3 жыл бұрын
APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK YOU PUT INTO THIS JUSTIN....🤙. ITS A GREAT DOCUMENTARY SERIES CANT WAIT FOR PART XI 🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙
@harriskids7312
@harriskids7312 3 жыл бұрын
I love these please keep doing more
@yikelu
@yikelu 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thanks Justin!
@acerbt
@acerbt Жыл бұрын
I actually just upgraded my e kit module after just about 10 years. I've been playing the dtxplorer for this time and just upgraded my set up with a 3 zone snare and the dtx-500. It's only 1 generation newer, but I love the sounds as well as the fact that my favorite play along tracks were ported over.
@drumfansbeginnerdrummer2048
@drumfansbeginnerdrummer2048 3 жыл бұрын
🔥Another perfect vide bro🚀
@seirahefn1100
@seirahefn1100 3 жыл бұрын
im going to binge watch ur channel cuz im crazy into drums ... and my red blood cells are STARVING!
@drumsNstuff79
@drumsNstuff79 3 жыл бұрын
This is a great series! Nice job.. I own a used 2003-ish Roland TD-6V kit for home practice since space prohibits my acoustic drums. It's a great little module, easy to use and has decent sounds.. It's still holding up great with no issues other than I upgraded the plastic rack clamps with later better ones. I was really interested in the Simmons lawsuit info. I knew about it but no specifics and was very happy to hear that Dave won and had designed a kit for GC.
@iternityhuman1782
@iternityhuman1782 3 жыл бұрын
Gr8 video history of e drums this is perfect!
@hannesdrumss
@hannesdrumss 3 жыл бұрын
3:05 Baby Michael Schack is so awesome!!!
@billdolan4014
@billdolan4014 3 жыл бұрын
Still practice on that TD6 & it held up great, added the KD120 mesh when I bought it. Also have a mesh snare. I put together a user kit that sounds good. One of the best purchase's I made bought it in 2003.
@steevidrums
@steevidrums 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting fact, Mike Timms (Kit-Toys) still makes drum/cymbal triggers. A one-man, hand-make making operation. I have bought a lot from him and they're excellent designs and I haven't had a single failure yet. He goes under Drone Trigger Systems now. A very interesting and knowledgable chap indeed. He's also an excellent drummer too!
@dirkforsdyke6214
@dirkforsdyke6214 3 жыл бұрын
I buy all my triggers from Mike too. They're excellent and he's such a good guy to deal with.
@steevidrums
@steevidrums 3 жыл бұрын
@@dirkforsdyke6214 Totally with you on that. Like I say, I have yet to have a single failure from any of his stuff. But I have no doubt anything should go he'd be really cool with sorting a repair out, you just know he's one of us!
@dirkforsdyke6214
@dirkforsdyke6214 3 жыл бұрын
@@steevidrums I did have a problem with a snare trigger 6 months ago and he sent me out a replacement within a day.
@steevidrums
@steevidrums 3 жыл бұрын
@@dirkforsdyke6214 That's what I am talking about. The guy deserves a bigger name in the trigger market. That said, I get the feeling he likes it small and one man, no marketing and blah blah... nice simple and killer stuff.
@TearlessGosling
@TearlessGosling Жыл бұрын
How do you contact him nowadays?
@stevenfisher2700
@stevenfisher2700 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic Justin! I'm so glad you are cataloging the history of edrums! I love to share more inside background and history on Roland and more recent info about Yamaha at some point. I can also tell you about the the history and development of the first Roland mesh heads.
@65Drums
@65Drums Жыл бұрын
hey Steven, I'd love to hear about your experience with either company, feel free to email me at beatdrummer5@gmail.com or message me on Instagram :)
@johndef5075
@johndef5075 2 жыл бұрын
Im still playing the td10exp! Love the Birch and Rosewood presets.
@kshank07
@kshank07 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, my first kit was the DM5 module with pads that looked like the kit shown at 25:20. Crazy nostalgia memories from this video
@xplank
@xplank 3 жыл бұрын
Excellently done, I look forward to ne next instalment, much better to watch now you have slowed you talking down a bit. ;)
@a.j.liedtke4645
@a.j.liedtke4645 3 жыл бұрын
2:13 I just got this exact kit but with a td-12 module at the thrift store for $960 and I love it! Pretty much all of the red on the rack is worn off though lol, but other than that the kit is practically brand new!
@passiton3801
@passiton3801 Жыл бұрын
I had access to (an the use of) the Trap E500 e kit. It was brill, with almost full size mesh heads, They r distributed in Germany now..
@graytss
@graytss 3 жыл бұрын
Got to play on a td12 a while ago, with sd3 that kit would shine
@66meikou
@66meikou 3 жыл бұрын
I have a dtxtreme IIs with loads of extras. I ditched the hi hat for the later version ans well and the later kick drum. I'm just looking to pick up a laptop to run drum soft and carry on with it.
@mikosoft
@mikosoft 3 жыл бұрын
I had the chance to try HD1 and it was quite crammed. But it had mesh head snare!
@acerbt
@acerbt Жыл бұрын
What was being used for the sounds in the drumming section after the explination about that easy to install trigger without screws? It sounds like an easy drummer library I've herd in a few places.
@marcustorokcatallo772
@marcustorokcatallo772 3 жыл бұрын
what is your opinion on the alesis nitro mesh kit?
@dudleycreekstudio4138
@dudleycreekstudio4138 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget about ancillary gear like rhythm composers and triggers like Fishman Purple Microdots.
@Kalamboonga69
@Kalamboonga69 3 жыл бұрын
Can you compare the alesis strike pro se and the td-20sx
@robinjohnson6301
@robinjohnson6301 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid as always! Just to point out for future vids, The Complete Simmons Drum Book was by Bob Henrit not Bob Hernit.
@65Drums
@65Drums 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry about that. I also own the book by Bob Hernit as well, and the titles are so similar I get them mixed up.
@robinjohnson6301
@robinjohnson6301 3 жыл бұрын
@@65Drums Haha no worries man! Honestly your videos are absolutely superb. Lately I've been going down the rabbit hole of learning much more about electronic drums, mainly from your videos and I'm finding it totally fascinating. I only use an SPD-SX + 4 triggers on my setup (2 bars and 2 KT-10s), so nothing too crazy. But I'm finding your vids interesting and inspiring. If I have one request, it's for a rig run down of George Daniel from The 1975. He's one of my favourite drummers and I think does some great stuff with electronics, both live and in the studio. Anyway, keep it up!!
@copycatrockshow1503
@copycatrockshow1503 3 жыл бұрын
I had an old Roland TD 6, the blue one and I went to my music shop the other day looking at buying a TD 50 but was really shocked to find that many of the TD50 drum sounds were exactly the ones that we're in my TD 6, even down to that annoying guy who counts 1 2 3 4. So I tried a TD 30 I got the same result. Granted both the TD 30 and the TD 50 had greater editing options but can you please do a video on how a lot of the sounds in Roland drums have not changed for years. Or am I losing the plot!
@Bassquake76
@Bassquake76 3 жыл бұрын
25:19 Isn't that the Session Pro DD-505 kit? Wasn't that released in 2010?
@escapegoat32
@escapegoat32 5 ай бұрын
Anyone else catch that you got a FREE denim jacket with the purchase of the sabian cymbal pack??? How could anyone pass that up???
@michaelm2525
@michaelm2525 3 ай бұрын
“Morbid Angel” 😂🤣😂
@eddgutierrez5811
@eddgutierrez5811 2 жыл бұрын
All I know about Roland is that the same guys still demos them till this day
@MrGaxar
@MrGaxar 3 жыл бұрын
Please review the new ales is crimson 2 special edition
@Bassquake76
@Bassquake76 3 жыл бұрын
0:36 Ahh. Early 2000 websites. The epitome of design skillz. 😂
@xp50player
@xp50player 3 жыл бұрын
Those Hart Dynamics Acupad sets were sweet at the time. Doesn’t seem like V-Drum flagship sets have gone up all that much, adjusted for inflation.
@janpaolomanaog6107
@janpaolomanaog6107 3 жыл бұрын
Niceee
@needthecoast
@needthecoast 3 жыл бұрын
The Roland handsonic spd-15. Is the closest thing to a drum synth ever. 4 trk sequencer... 600 sounds... Real Time synth control...roland fx...A diamond in the rough. Most drummers don't need This much control. Over the top bad ass!
@aeiplanner
@aeiplanner 3 жыл бұрын
The only set I was ever really interested in was the 2Box Drummit Five. It had a great look, mesh pads, nice cymbals, seemed light compared to Roland and best of all was around $2K. Unfortunately it never really got any traction in the US, probably because of the Roland patent.
@purevanillacookie9977
@purevanillacookie9977 2 жыл бұрын
For me the aroma TDX-15S is pretty decent for its price (currently $200)
@Garagedrummer
@Garagedrummer 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! This series has been awesome. I remember those earlier ads from Roland and thinking all their drummers looked like accountants. They had great skills but looked like dudes working in an office cubicle. Not very inspiring for a young impressionable drummer who wanted to “rock” HAHA
@SouLeozinho
@SouLeozinho 3 жыл бұрын
2:15 that's an alesis strike pro se without a hi hat stand
@thePeterpumpkin68
@thePeterpumpkin68 2 жыл бұрын
Ddrum 4se is still a good module...
@minidrummidary1246
@minidrummidary1246 3 жыл бұрын
40:35 Td-20KX
@drumfansbeginnerdrummer2048
@drumfansbeginnerdrummer2048 3 жыл бұрын
Roland vs Yamaha??? What do you guys think🤔🤔🤔
@t.e.m.p4786
@t.e.m.p4786 3 жыл бұрын
Unus annus bassdrum in the thumbnail
@tojirodrums3968
@tojirodrums3968 3 жыл бұрын
3:23 Is that James Schack?
@KalleBlixtHagholm
@KalleBlixtHagholm 3 жыл бұрын
You mean Michael Schack? I think so. It sure sounds like him (and I don't mean only the accent) and he moves similarly.
@tojirodrums3968
@tojirodrums3968 3 жыл бұрын
@@KalleBlixtHagholm Its is surely him because he has been working for Roland since 2004
@petethescalemodeller6130
@petethescalemodeller6130 2 жыл бұрын
3:07 dont do drugs kids
@richardbartolo2890
@richardbartolo2890 2 жыл бұрын
I am so glad Dave Simmonds didn't get robbed of his Intellectual property. Guitar Center's weasel move of stealing his product Idea & Trademark smacked of a low life street criminals move. HA HA suck it G C.
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