He does actually kill him in injustice lol

Exactly!

+Jermar Makins not intentionally though

True

+Mark Galan but still. Damian is the biggest snort in the entire universe

The original Robin would never done what Jason did which is why the original is Robin is better than Jason here!

INDEED

Back in the day Jason didn’t have a good reputation and he was killed off but the way they do it was really disturbing

He was a lil shit bro. Normal teens can b lil shits

Batman The Pedo!

You wanna kick ass like me?

+Captain Sunshine Stephanie Brown?

+ReaperGaming Oh yeah taking in a child because they don't have any parents to raise them and treat them respect (Except when Batman slapped Robin back in Golden Gate comics) Is being a pedo.

Dominique Senecharles Totally agree, and him as red hood is my favorite DC character, period.

So true.

Caspianm2 hes my favorite DC character 2 and my favorite robin

Roy Harper I appreciate it ROY.. Now hop on gta and let's do this doomsday heist

Yes I used to have the Red Hood hoodie of mine and Jason Todd alway as my favorite DC Character too

ikr

oh thanks for calling me sexy, yeah I am cool

oh and hey rae rae I know right I am sexy oh and rae you can join the outlaws if you wanna

I agree 100%

thanks yo

No. In the New 52 he is now an emo softy that has a designated love interest that occasionally tags along in his adventures (and if completely cool with his antics). He no longer manipulates and kills criminals (as much as he used to anyways) and is no longer threatening. He no longer blurs the lines of good and bad. He's just a good guy that has a bad passed. It's meh. It's boring. I preferred Jason in Pre-N52 because he WAS crazy, while at the same time in control (for the very most part) of his actions. A true wild card. While at the same time facing the trauma of his death, betrayal by his parents, and other deep rooted issues he went through as a kid (such as Batman's constant disapproval and being compared to Nightwing all the time). This new Jason has issues but that's all he has now and not even all the same issues. The old Jason was sympathetic but not written to force your sympathy. New 52 Jason is just either sad or boring.

Edward Gil Which issues do you find exciting? I'm new to the comic scene and I've really enjoyed his character in Red Hood and the Outlaws in New 52. Pre-New 52 Jason sounds badass and it is a breath of fresh air finding heroes(?) who kill. Do you have any recommendations? Or general comic recommendations?

fritosnlegos I would start with his debut as Red Hood, "Batman: Under the Hood" or the animated film version. I'd suggest reading the comicbook version first, mainly because most people find the movie better. I like them the same, I just think the comic version is more expansive. After that, you should read "Red Hood: The Lost Days". It basically is a story about Jason right after he came back to life and what he does leading up to actually becoming the Red Hood. You see things through his perspective. You can actually sympathize with him a lot better whether he's saving the day or plotting his vengeance. There is one part that people find controversial but I let it pass. Now then there's Battle for the Cowl. Most people HATE Jason in that story. Really I just hate the part where he shoots Damian because it was just unnecessary. I like it because it shows the Jason going off the rails because of Batman's death. If you actually try to see things his way, you can understand. Also there are quite a few issues with him being just awesome back when he was Robin. A great cameo in "The Outsiders issue 44". I do not exactly recommend reading "Countdown" because it was just a useless story arc. Also "Blood Brothers" is a love it or hate it. I hate it because it stopped making sense. Oh and when he appeared in Teen Titans, he definitely kicked Tim Drake's ass. But let me just sum this up. Pre-N52 Jason was indeed a badass but... well he was obviously flawed and symbolized the trauma the hero/crime world can bring, along with being the embodiment of what Batman could become should he break his moral code. He really blurred the line between hero and villain. On one hand he was trying to reduce crime. On the other hand he was clearly sadistic and had questionable sanity, all the while being cold, calculating and organized (until Battle for the Cowl but that was justified), not to mention he constant clashes with the rest of the Bat-family.

Wow. Thank you for the quick reply. I'll definitely start at "The Lost Days" and go from there. I love heroes who are consumed by their flaws and seek their goals to the point of madness. The sadistic, the better. I guess you could say I read for the villainy, but I want a hero. I'm curious to think how "heroic" he actually is in people's eyes (in-universe and the creators). Are people just giving him a pass or not actively pursuing him because he's Batman's "bad seed?" I understand his intentions plant him in the gray morality on the continuum, but the channels he chooses to attain peace look mighty black. Not to mention, there are definitely heads dropping wherever he sets foot. It seems to be some favoritism going on here or the villains/heroes are just as bad, if not, worse. I prefer the latter, but I digress.

fritosnlegos Heroic... hm... well the other heroes consider him dangerous and psychotic. Only a few (such as Nightwing, Toia, and sometimes Batman and Tim Drake) see him as a young man in pain that just wants some approval and affection. As for the fans... it's divided. Some see his antics as downright villainous. Some see his results as heroic. Me... I find them... interesting. On one hand, he is reducing crime and really does want to protect innocents. On the other hand, he can be pretty antagonistic towards his "family" and will attack them should they cross his path. I won't give too much away, but let's just say that one half of Jason's mind is doing what he does out of the goodness of his heart, the other half is doing this for his own personal issues. Now, I can understand why some people prefer his New 52 version. For one, he has his own series, so it's easier to connect with him since he is seen more often. PreN52 Jason did not get that kind of treatment for some reason. Mainly because his psych was just so complex, most writers weren't skilled enough to handle it. Which again brings us to N52 Jason. He's simpler. Also toned way down. To the point where you wonder why he and the Bat-family are still at odds. There was a point where he did rekindle with Batman, but that didn't last because other shit was going on in Bruce's life that made him mistreat Jason. Ugh. See that's another problem. The New52 is trying WAY too hard to make us sympathize with Jason. They make him act nice, he hardly ever kills now, he has a very bland (but hot, I will admit) love interest that he encountered in the most random way possible and for some reason just-- AGH! He's just so BORING now. Jason Todd as a "nice guy"? Why, DC? WHY?! Meanwhile Tim Drake (someone I never really cared to much for) is now a little douchebag?! And Nightwing is... what is Nightwing now?! Babs is no longer Oracle? Moving backwards, much?! FFFFFF--! Need to chill out. Going on nerd rage. We're talking about Jason. Ahem, Jason is basically everything his shallow fangirls perceived him to be. Just a misunderstood hero who just needs a hug. Blah. PreN52 Jason is a misunderstood guy who also misunderstood what it meant to be a hero. Yes, he did lose his way. Yes, Batman was a shitty parent towards him. But it was... a two-way streak. Jason was indeed a stubborn, impulsive kid with too much rage within him.But that was fun. It was fun seeing him and Batman's personalities clash back when he was Robin. It was fun seeing him as Red Hood wreck shit up for both the good and bad guys. It was fun seeing him taunt his enemies, crack jokes. All the while you felt uneasy with him present because you're not sure when he's gonna do something dark. You could feel his anger and pain, but could also see that something was indeed wrong with him. I'd say Lost Days, Under the Hood, and Battle for the Cowl portrayed that best. Some other stories he's in did a good job, too. I just wish that DC gave him his own series based on how he was in those stories, at least how he was in Lost Days and Under the Hood, since he was a little too violent in Battle for the Cowl. If they just gave it a shot, I know it would've been brilliant. Yeah sure, Outlaws isn't terrible it's just not capturing me as well, probably because he's now just like any other hero now. I'd say the worst part of the New52 is the fact that this is NOT the worst part. In fact, "Red Hood and the Outlaws" is one of their better works. Just compare the previous DCU characters and to this New52 bullshit and you'll see.

People hated Jason because he replaced Dick. Dick was Robin for over 40 years but then they made this new, darker kid Robin. Fans overreact over little things so something like this would be beyond awful to them. It's like if they replaced Wonder Woman now.

MrExplodinGuy Jason todd was cool however original red hood had some very poorly written story arks.

I think the fans in the 80's were stupid too, but had they not killed Jason then he never would have come back as the Red Hood, and Red Hood is my favorite character so it all works out in the end. I think what upset fans most was not only that he replaced Dick, but that originally he was pretty much just an exact clone of Dick only with blonde hair. Jason was a circus performer whose parents got killed, and Bruce took him in. I mean they could have at least tried to make him a little bit different. Unfortunately by the time they did change him it was already too late. Fans had already made up their minds. But like I said, it all worked out in the end.

Man I love Jason my favorite robin by far

MrExplodinGuy hey at least we have Tim Drake

yea he did ^^ you should read the outlaws comic then you will understand

he did

He did because starfire in the new 52 is pretty much just that a slut

Yeah. He sees her as a slut in that comic because she sleeps with both men in the comic. Also, her new 52 look is so sexual and 'slutty'

Harleen Quinzel Nightwing has a reputation and no one cares about him. What's the big deal if Kory has had sex with a few men?

That was Jason Todd of earth one, a totally different character.

+ItsSuperEffective your gay

+Jordan Cervera ok, and your point is. Was that supposed to be an insult

+Jordan Cervera *you're*

+Jrock-Malik no your was correct

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Idk about best robins

NotSoGodleyNico he's my favourite robin

red hood kills the dc universe

That would be an awesome title

what should riddler do?

That sounds like a Deadpool comic that happened he killed everyone including the hulk

2Quick4You100 so did Punisher

You're in luck red hood and the outlaws got a rebirth title

Wait u r right

If I ever cover a movie, it'll be a movie that could equal the comic book experience, but with most comic book movies, I watch em, I like em and then I move on and never think about it again.

Have you notice DC mostly doing cartoons while Marvel is into movies? I don't know why I'd love to see DC heroes in a movie.

DC Has got some movies planned, but its always been that DC Has the animation market held tight and Marvel does live action really well. I honestly feel like DC heroes dont translate to the live action medium that well because there are less limitations to the DC universe in comparison to the Marvel universe.

Still, movie is a great market if they want to make a lot of $$$. People go out to the theater to watch a movie instead of a animation. Movies also have better and wider advertising.

When things are done for money instead of having an actual passion for the project, they always turn out bad. When the movies are bad people lose respect for the source material, in this case the comics. At the end of the day, like I always say, we're dealing with art here, and when you bring money and business into art, things go horribly horribly wrong.

I thought his hair was red...

You mean he originally was a blonde acrobat then that changed and he became the Jason we all know and love today

@@ratkinzluver33 I think of his hair as strawberry blonde

Yeah....the guy left out much of his overall history He only went over his canon history.

Rose Pink Diamond Jason is my favorite robin by far but really it makes sense that dc killed him off I mean think about it it was 50 50 and if Jason stayed alive Batman comics would have been fucked

No I heard it too lol😆

I heard it too

Harsley Kent 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Wish granted.

Erithebad you're black tho nigga

Haseo55 Gunpoint

Breithe Nua bruh nah. Cold blooded Murder and torture aren’t justifiable. They are worse than rape

Nope the original Robin here is way better here!

JR Gamer yes

If you listened to the video I actually say that Jason beat Tim. My whole thing is, and I didn't really word this well, that this whole filler really...didnt need to happen. There would've been a million different ways to explore a robin v robin thing. Also, it shouldn't have been in the Teen Titans, it was really random and just made no sense to have it there as it did not go with what the Teen Titans was doing at the time.

Yep. Coz of new 52 Starfire.

he just dyed it black.

***** He dyed it black as a homeless kid?

yeah. i have no idea how though. most likely he stole hair dye and found a way to use it.

Don't know if either one of you found out yet or not but, originally he was a stawberry blonde to then dye his hair. However after the whole crisis event Jason then got his homeless kid origin story and natural black hair.

Cinthia Cruzado shes had sex with 5 guys just because she wanted to have sex

Nuke Narwhal Okay then.... Make sense o_o

Cinthia Cruzado :3 but she's kinda stopped that and is kinda with Jason :p

Nuke Narwhal I thought she ended up with Roy Harper.

Cinthia Cruzado its like back and forth at the moment but its more jason last time i checked

the stair gamers He's the second robin, Jason Todd.

Yes

Caspianm2 yes

True but "Hush" isn't exactly a batman storyline that most people take seriously. Though the concept was good.

True but I didn't take that in to consideration my point was this was where Bruce was made aware of the possibility that Jason may or may not be alive which is a pretty major move

Good point, I guess everybody makes a mistake now and then. Though that does seem like a detail too big to miss.

So, for some clarification. Sometimes I will intentionally miss out a fact or two just because if someone goes off to read the comics themselves, they will then find something I didn't talk about and experience it as a totally fresh first hand experience.

5:02

I don't get it

Mighty Damo huh?

Mighty Damo what do you mean?

But Dat Face Doe...Be Like " It Feels Like It Was Sent From Heaven"

That is what the theory is... But we don't exactly know that until we see the Suicide Squad movie next year. And this is just my opinion but I highly doubt that Jason Todd is the new Joker to be honest.

Well, the first red hood ever was the very first Joker so, you never know. I just think it makes good sense. But like you say we will see.

I will kill someone if that theory turns out to be true.

+rane932 don't worry it isnt

+Jason Todd definitely not true

America's a bigger shithole now, full of more shits.

One his character did change and I think he is the best and smartest robin because he uses his prep realy good and the best hand to hand combatatant oh ye just because you dont like it doesnt mean no one will like him

***** Woah easy there, Tiger I smell a bias. He was only giving an opinion.

Actually he character didn't change. His personality is the same as when he was robin. He wasn't like the rest of the robins. He just has a different uniform. He actually could beat the rest of the robins

5BarsEnt Go read Convergence Batman and Robin #1,#2 and Batman Incorporated #6 from pre flashpoint

You meant to say "Are you gay", right? If you were then yeah actually, he is.

***** is he really gay?? Or does he just have an effeminate British accent?

Otto Fabian It's been said he's actually gay.

Kay, I just assumed he had a feminine accent. I recently started watch this guy. Got into a heated flame battle with some douche on his Dick Grayson video. . . .

Yes he is gay, Problem? As long he does good vids and actually explains comics Lore ( WHich i dont know much) I am ok with him.

Just by name dropping you already spoiled it

johnathan almodovar no you just spoiled it by saying that, I could just be talking about the joker kidnapping him, or the redhood missions where as you make reference to the title spoiling it for everyone involved

Nope I feel the original Robin is way better than Jason here!

Comixology is a great website to buy and read comics online. You can't really read them online for free.

Cool! Thanks for the info. Yeah, the authors and artist did a lot of job so for now, guess I have to save and buy it soon. :) Thanks!

THANK YOU FOR BEING THE ONLY PERSON IVE EVER SEEN ON ONE OF THESE VIDEOS THAT KNOWS THIS. Sorry for the caps, I just got excited

+Wingding yeah but he is remembered for his death Damian is remembered for being the son of batman and Stephanie is remembered for being the first cannon female robin

+Jake Henry dick grayson all day best robin