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Wonder if the same applies to right now I hope it's for the better

FTK in general is bullshit. Modern Yugioh is just a more expensive multiplayer solitaire.

Zoodiac format was horrible, basically halq + auroradon on steroids. 99% of the decks playing the same combo line because of how much card advantage it was able to generate.

playing against the same exact deck endlessly sure is interesting

Finally mbt having a solid take

Now imagine the OCG's version of PePe when they had Shock Master legal. That's 💀

Its kind of wild to think about how the deck was basically just this HUGE advantage engine that just put up whatever flavor a dumb ED monster was available, which is basically the core of what decks are now. Power creep kind of flew off the handle around the end of Vrains.

One thing is for sure, PePe dominated thanks to a banlist that was specifically tailored to sell pendulums.

And the monkeyboard,guitartle,and lizardraw chain was infinite and could be done over and over again consistently

@@traplover6357well its same thing, you just couldnt play at all with shock

Because they were not good enough to see enough play, people will play the best decks they can if they want to win, so gouki would only be tier 0 if it was good enough to beat everything else with ease

@@rosewarrior706 pretty sure Gouki won NA YCS championship and maybe worlds? Lots of people really hated the way the deck played a refused to play it if I remember correctly. People would call it “playing solitaire” because it was basically a 1 player game.

Drytron at its prime could have been considered “tier zero” but representation wise it wasn’t, I think the same can be said for spright as well

Gouki has to be one of, if not, the most oppressive meta decks ever.

Gouki wasn't due to people not wanting to play mirrors. The deck would have easily been tier 0 otherwise

But we have recently with the spotlghts.

@@rafaelbrites3607 Spright Tearlamenet format is funnier that those handloop FTK formtas, is weird that the format has 2 decks and those 2 decks are good at fighting each other, but we don't know if Sproght is goign to be as dominant as in the OCG seeing how different the play style is we need like 2 weeks of tourney to see how the format is going to go.

arguably we've had a number of teir 0 level of power decks enter the format (especially in 2018 IE year of the FTK) but due to the fact that there were other decks that were just as powerful they didn't become "teir 0". The only iteration I'd argue could be said was a teir 0 deck (It was being formulated and kept on the dl by a number of top players until a certain ycs and led to the banning of Firewall shortly after) would be Danger Dark World FTK. Probably the most consistent FTK deck we've ever had in yugioh and with despite a very small number of people playing it in a (I believe) 3k man ycs it managed to take the majority of the tops..... And then firewall got banned (thank god).

Kinda true but sky striker pure was like 20% of the meta and sky striker/trickstar was 40% of the meta and combo decks we're running drones+kagari+engage meaning that like 70% of the meta was running sky stricker cards

There are just so many types and attributes that Konami doesn't even really care to work with. Rush Duel has more Aqua-based archetypes than the main game.

@@Zetact_ at least Aqua has more than one archetype in the game to work with.

@@Zetact_ yeah Aqua at least piggybacks off generic water support most of the time. Pyro and fire attributes in general have like no good generic support.

Like I get they’re scared of Rekindling, but they don’t need to make every FIRE archetype scared of it. They could even make non-FIRE Pyro monsters!

or you know make them have more than 200 Def so they just don't work with the spell.

Yeah. from memory strike came out in the same set as rafllesia

duellogs has this exact series on his channel

or why ocg and tcg differ in some of their bans

@@zaqareemalcolm or even master duel and tcg

@@kajin807 master duel is based on a modified ver of a older ocg list irrc

Adamancipator didn't have real competiton and spright never reached tier 0, not even in the ocg Also konami stopped creating archetypes and engines that go like +3 or +5 for no reason, except for when they released the adventurer engine Which did have tier 0 representation at ycs bogota so going +3 off of one card is still as strong as ever

@@andrejv.2834 While Adamancipator weren't that dominant they certainly had one of the strongest competition. Synchro Eldlich wasn't a good deck in a vacuum but was an amazing meta call, DLink, Infernoble and Dogmatika were insane.

@@nnnp634 syncho eldlich loses to any form of interaction on halq or auroradon, that type of deck wouldn't even be rogue in a normal meta without years worth of rogue or better decks being banned in an instant, which is what the january 2020 banlist started and the april one completed Infernoble is also very fragile, although they can occasionally play through disruption, but they also came towards the end of ada's lifespan Dlink stood the test of time, but the early version of the deck was pretty janky, people only came up with good versions towards the end of the year as well

do you guys forget the sky striker orcust meta? it was 2019

Striker Orcust format had the deck at like low 60s percent wise of top cut. It’s very much possible.

What music did you use starting at 13:45?

Mixing 2 amazing archetype with no synergy together what a madlad

Master rules were different at the time, pendulum strategies were a lot more viable

Pendulums were never broken tbh. Their issue is the high resource commitment that is easily countered by most disruption. PePe was only viable because other decks at the time didn't have the tools to deal with them. I'm pretty positive that if PePe came back full power even with electrumite at 3 they would barely see any tops. It's super easy to side hate for them and they kind of hard lose going second even though they kind of need the 6th card to make most of their most powerful boards. They were just the first instance of "4 negate" boards in the game.

MR3 allowed to summon as many monsters as possible from the extra deck.

@@JudojugsVtuber But it seems like konami still afraid of pendlum eventhough it's not a threat anymore .

@@sofarsogood8680 Pendulums haven't been relevant since PePe and PePe was the only meta relevant pendulum deck that actually mattered. Electrumite was only banned cause of an FTK that it supposedly enabled even though it wasn't the main problem with the FTK (that being the lyrulisc fusion/supreme king starving venom) and also because every pend deck used him probably because they had no other link monster options in most pendulum decks and electrumite was made specifically so pendulum decks could function in MR4.

Yeah the days when every deck was playing adventure dpe scythe were probably the worst days of my yugioh career

Splights and Tears are totally teir 0 right now. It's so stupid.

@@EeveeShadowBacon They will perhaps share a T0 spot, but it's to be seen if one of them is actually gonna become T0 in the tcg.

I'm a fan of designing them like Photon Lord, where it's USABLE generically but gets more powerful in it's own deck

That moment when seemingly every deck was running either Dragoon, Zeus or Phoenix Enforcer or Accesscode and more. Thank God at least Phoenix and Dragoon dropped off a lot since Anaconda was axed, but those two were definitely not the most fun card to play with

He is probably waiting for the arc-v era to end when Vrains world releases

Ogre doesn't stop tenki

This is mostly correct, but you cant ogre tenki

Yes omg. This music is so good

It was

What? It was the first link 2 that said “special from deck”. That was it. What does Magicians Souls have to do with anything? If you’re comparing to Master Plan, Master Plan is a combo enabler, not a random extender you have to hard draw.

@@meathir4921 Yeah, and Souls gets Master Plan into play better than Helix ever did. Now, Helix is only good for searching Sleeper. Let’s do some math: For Helix, you need: 2 SPYRAL monsters, and a way to resolve Drone’s stack effect. All of this produces a single Double Helix + MP. With Souls + Quik-Fix: You get Souls (a free extender), Master Plan in the GY, and Quik-Fix searching Big Red to bring it back. Search Rescue with MP and then use Souls to send Big Red+ Rescue to Draw 2. Next, Link Summon Barricadeborg Blocker with Souls + MP. MP searches Resort + 1 SPYRAL as CL1 and BB effect as CL2 (completely insulated from Ash AND Called By btw). Do you see the difference now? One guaranteed a +3 with MP, the other could not. One was able to put up 2 Link-2s (+ QF SS effect and Rescue SS MP for more link shenanigans), the other was left with a simple Double Helix + MP. We know now that Double Helix is not the sole reason the deck was good back in 2018. MR4 completely destroyed 95% of meta decks (there’s a reason why decks that don’t use the Extra Deck like Trickstar and Altergeist was so popular in this era), SPYRAL just happened to lend itself well to the kind of playstyle that Link Summoning demands. While everyone else was struggling to summon Missus Radiant and Decode Talker, this deck was out here summoning 3 Firewall Dragons. I wish I could say Master Plan was the reason the deck is good, but that wasn’t the case between Resort getting limited and Souls coming out. Master Plan makes the deck functional. Don’t believe me? Cool, just try to resolve Master Plan’s second effect in MR3. Or even have a look at how little play it saw after Resort got limited. The most overpowered things about this deck was everything that wasn’t SPYRAL.

@@OoXLR8oO So… we’re in agreement? That Double Helix being ahead of its time and Firewall being at 3 are the main factors? So what does Magicians Souls have to do with anything? Master Plan is still an important part of the deck regardless…

@@meathir4921 Magicians Souls literally does Helix’s job but better in every way? Also my point here was that the most broken thing about SPYRAL over the years was never the actual SPYRAL cards. It’s everything else.

@@OoXLR8oO Nono, Double Helix and Machine Dupe Quik Fix is busted, don’t downplay SPYRAL cards. Resort is an insane field spell. They lacked finishers and a major play starter and link format gave them both.

But look at the decks rn. Link spam is not good anymore

@@megaspacewaffles but every meta deck needs a link monsters to work.

@@rafaelbrites3607 that’s somewhat true. Swordsoul don’t really use them though. Nor do edlich. Its deck dependent. Heroes tbh don’t need it either. Can name a few that don’t need tjem. But look at the meta rn. How many decks are link focused only. Rn it’s all a mix of different summoning types which is good

@@rafaelbrites3607 Tearlaments need 0 links to work, the only 2 links that us use is Dharc because it you can use it is decent, and Trouble Sunny but that's only for side decking 3 Ultimate Slayer and Ki-Sikil & Lil-La so you can out the Spright Link and then use the grave effect of Trouble Sunny to send Toadally Awesome to the grave.

Cry

@@animationtv426 That's just an objective observation, why the salt

@@baconsir1159 cuz he is a generic zoodiac player, Metasheep

It really says something that five out of the six tier 0 decks basically don't see play anymore--you can sometimes see pendulum decks with the spirit of PePe, but that's about it. But Zoodiac's STILL a threat, it's just not format-warping anymore.

@@EinDose To be fair, PEPE was before Master Rule 4. Electrumite is also banned.

Yup. This is basically what happens, depending on the format: Competitive, complex Tier 1 format; New players can choose from 5-6 really powerful decks that can gain ground on other powerful decks, but won't completely overpower any of them. Extreme, 1 dimensional Tier 0 format; New players have 1 deck to use, and can only play that single deck, or risk losing interaction altogether.

Lmao like half decks? There 3 possibles tiers tier 0, tier 1 and tier 2 not tier 0,52222 or 0,53444

Only in the ocg, tcg ishizu tear lost it's tier 0 status after like 2 events and was killed off in like 3 months

Adamancipator also had weak competition because of the january and april 2020 banlists, and pepe isn't stronger either 2017 spyral wasn't better than modern decks because they're lacking modern staples, in a way 2020 spyral with a way weaker main deck was better than the tier 0 counterpart

Same, I was huge fan of the deck before it was meta. Drone was the first card ever that let's you look the top 5 cards and shuffle it in any order. It was crazy.

Already is. A few YCS already have 65%+ rep.

And True Draco and Pendulum Magician in that same year...

Now we have tear and spright...

@@annaxuldraugworc7832 Do we? They were dominant in the OCG, but so were Numeron, PK Adventure and Branded, but first 2 flopped hard in the TCG and the last one was the best deck for only a couple of weeks. If you have some results with Splight and Tearelements dominating the TCG I would be very interested

@@nnnp634 yh we’ll have to wait and see I don’t think they’re going to be anywhere near as good as they were in the ocg

@@nnnp634 something to note is that adventurer branded dominated the ocg That version of the deck did nothing here, as people quickly discovered that pure is much better, so even they didn't fully translate

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