Mauser was upset that Germany didn't ask for his help in designing a rifle or, even better, adopting a rifle of his design. In reality he was very fortunate that he was totaly uninvolved. If a rifle of his design had been adopted they would have very likely been made from the same materials. The bursting barrel problem would have destroyed Mauser's reputation world-wide and he would have been nothing more than a minor foot note in history.

Mauser specifically bad mouths the 88 Rifle on their website, haha. As if to say "that's what you get when you make the mistake of going to anyone but us". They are pretty harsh too: "Re-arming of Prussian troops with the new "88 Rifle" follows irrespective of costs and quality. Due to the numerous complaints and accidents, continuous improvements have to be implemented."

11 ... that's one more than 10. Nice quote man.

"cuz nuts to that guy!" FTW, gonna have to start using nuts as a curse more.... its not just for the ardenne in 44' anymore...

Mae always looks so happy to be out shooting :D

"As far as the girth went with it, I didn't think it was that hard to handle at all" That's what she said. Sorry, I had to...

You pronounced Gewehr right. Sehr gut :)

I once owned an 1890 example that had gone to the Turks, but never had the conejos to fire it. Frankly, it scared the fool out of me! Kudos to Mae for getting behind what can be questionable technology and letting rip! She's actually quite impressive!!!

Going back to this episode, it's amazing to me that three of the four main derivatives mentioned at 16:00 have their own episodes now.

Mae is looking good and sassy. Othais made a Spinal Tap reference and we've got a two parter. Everything is awesome.

“Stealing proofed rifles back” is done by unscrupulous suppliers who, in order to continually push inferior quality product past inspectors, just send the same proven good units through over and over. I’m not saying these accusations were reasonable or accurate, but the tactic has been used elsewhere. My first exposure to this was the wire supplier for the suspension cables of Brooklyn Bridge. The manufacturer sent the same approved spool of cable through while Roebling used inferior cable to build the bridge. Apparently it was designed to be 8x stronger than necessary but because of this it’s 4x overbuilt.

The footage of Mae on the range is most enjoyable, she seems to be having a really good time.

I love this episode, because it turned me on to the channel, because around this time I bought a GEW 88, and needed to KZfaq some break down vids. I already was aware of the rifle from a gun magazine article, I fell in love. So when I saw a Bavarian one at the gun show at the hampton collesium in VA, I bought the shit out of it. I paid 350 bones. And I do love the thing

WOW!! This is the best an clearest commentary that I've ever seen. Thanks please keep up the good work.

Thank you very much for that episode. Not totally butchering the names (Schlegelmilch was quite fine and is really improving), a very informative video aaaaaand funny. As I love sarcasm and irony, that "kinda" sidenote on "that guy who got run over by a car" was well implemented. Hell, this episode was good. And of course: Longer Vid + Part II = Awesome

But can it shoot .32 ACP?

I love this channel more and more with each episode and collaboration with the Great War. Keep it up the excellent work

Was the car Ok?

Original clips make all the difference. I managed to find two of them for which I paid a king's ransom.

28:15 "When I am ever so sorry to report that he was run over by a car" :):):):):)

It's a shame this didn't work out better, easily one of the coolest looking rifles of the era (that trigger guard area especially).

This rifle later lead to the Chinese copy of the Hangyang Type 88.

"Archivist Georgy K. Zhukov" whaat!?

The haircut's looking good, Mae! Thanks for another great video. I had no idea this rifle had such a colorful history.

+C&Rsenal Thanks! Ü I'm enjoying the videos immensely. I'm in the UK so I can't get my hands on stuff like this. I enjoy the back stories to these pieces of engineering. Eleven marks out of ten!

Just found you guys through Indy. Subd immediately. Keep up this fantastic stuff.

I'm looking forward to potentially seeing videos covering WW2 era weapons, or maybe even Machine Guns. I imagine getting hold of some weapons is very difficult, though! Its also great seeing a whole bunch of 'lesser known' weapons and getting to know the history behind them.

Admittedly I have been a bit slow getting into your vids, but I am loving them so far!, very cool series!, and I especially love a long one since i can play it while I make dinner or get ready for work :D Keep up the good work! -An Aussie shooter and military bolt gun fan.

I've been looking forward to this one.

"The Jews." That is some /pol/ level shit right there.

Another great one guys, I really like the longer format and this two part thing is also nice.

brilliant as usual

as for the end footage if that's what I think it is you guys are really fortunate

I think this rifle is interesting because it showcased the problems with allowing a commission to design something. There was a certain British aircraft many decades later that never got produced because there were too many people with too many inputs about how the thing should look, features, etc. Better to have a small, dedicated design team of talented people with someone who can "ride herd" on them and keep them focused.

You continue to set a high standard for scholastic work and watchabilty.

Thank you for doing this, along with your other videos so far. I very much enjoy the Commission 1888 rifle, and this is good information for those who might be interested in picking one up, as there are a lot still out there. The various updates and receiver markings can be confusing for someone new to the 1888 rifle, but you did well to cover most of what is encountered, so great job! When you get to the Austrian firearms, I've got you covered if there is anything you don't have an example of.

Nice work!

Thanks again

Love the show, keep up the great work!

Thank you for this vey informative video on this rifle. I had one for over 15 years and stopped using it because couldn't find reliable info on the ammo to use and also because the action was not ejecting the spent shell. I will continue to watch your videos to learn more about in the future.

very good video as always - gj guys

You did a great job. Thank you.

I love the depths that antisemites go to in order to create conspiracies. Thanks for sharing that bit of the story!

I know this is an old episode, but I recently acquired an 88/14 and so was doing some background watching. The captioning errors on this video are hilarious.

Thanks for the video. Love the new haircut Mae.

The 7.9mm rimless cartridge deserves its own episode as the first modern rifle cartridge case. 😮

Love the high speed (slo mo) video at the end. New video camera? Keep up the good work.

I have a ecuadorian gew 88 and its a steyr 1894 very Nice and rare have the original .318 bore

Loving everything you guys are doing. A++++ keep it up guys!

Regarding the feeding problems, I wonder wether the cartridge might be responsible. Othias always talks about the "8mm Mauser" But this cartridge saw quite a few changes especially with the introduction of the spitzer bullet, which was slightly wider. So if you use todays 8x57 cartridges, with a 88 lead bullet of the proper diameter, but without a complete recalibration, vou might be able to feed them,, but this will not be as smooth as with the proper brass.

Okey Dokey, Thanks!

The "French spies" part around 14:10 is actually funny because i think Daudeteau was developing in parallel its own particular magazine system between 1884 & 1885. System he later incorporated in its Daudeteau Rifle (not the 1895 "Dovitiis" one). I think this rifle never landed any contract (even in France) except one with Republic of El Salvador (up to 10k rifles + 5k carbines sold). I can put the source but it's in French : armesfrancaises.free.fr/FR%20Daudeteau%20cal%208%20mm.html

i bought mine in 1974 and have shot over 700 rounds through it. when it heats up the bullet drops about 1 inch at 250 yards. mine uses the newer ejectable stripper clips and the action is as smooth as butter all through firing. mine is danzig 1890. it only has an s at the top of the receiver and a beautiful walnut stock.. it has german ww1and ww2 unit markings as well as turkish markings. was bought through interarms,and still in beautiful condition art milmore

Thanks a bunch, your 88/05 video helped explain a lot I was wondering about a rifle I recently purchased, and this video in fact helped me straighten out a seller on gunbroken who was selling a rifle without the boldface which he claimed was "functional".

I recently ran across an 1888 Commission Mauser that was taken aside by Eduard Kettner and turned into a custom stalking rifle, with a new barrel, but still has it in .318", and not .323" and I like the gun, but not sure how much I would trust it, knowing some of the issues. Of course, the Kettner guns are not simply sporterized, they were taken apart and completely redone, new barrel, double set triggers, better sights, but the bolt and the feeding system are exactly how it left whatever factory it came from since the stipling all over the top of the gun took over all the markings, the only thing left are the proofmarks on the left side of the chamber.

Up to 73,000 psi!!! No matters how (SAAMI or CIP methods) one measures pressure this is probably at the proof pressure of the .30-06 (CIP max operating pressure of 4050 bar [58,000 psi piezo] v CIP standard of 3800 bar for the 8x57J). Hell of a way to proof test - random pressure levels in issued rifles.

i was also looking for the foot -lbs at the barrel.Thank You.

I agree with the clip issue. I have one original 88 and an 88/05. I have two original clips on 6 repops. The original feed like butter at the edges are much smoother and the catch for the rims in the clips is more rounded and less pronounced than the repops. I have had to heavily sand and modify the repops to get any reliability out of them but they work okay now. Still nothing close to the original though.

I find it amazing that people are still genuinely terrified of others handling firearms on KZfaq. I was initially very excited and impressed to see you sitting at the table handling the rifle with the absolute assurance that it was checked and rechecked before the shoot because thats what responsible people do. That you didnt need to implicitly state, THAT FOR MY SAFETY, the firearm was cleared before you pointed it at the unmanned camera. Also its KZfaq. Just keep doing what you've been doing and ill remain secure in the knowledge that regardless of whether or not you chamber check your guns in front of me, on KZfaq, through a screen, from several weeks in the past, I will NOT be shot and I am enough of a grown up to not have to second guess my manual of arms because someone on KZfaq didnt expressly tell me to do it every minute of every day. The most important thing is that you do it the way YOU want to do it. Otherwise your channel will end up like any other myriad of gun channels. Also your channel is fairly new so youre still not in that window where you've come up against the expert-youtube-commenter that will demand you do "slow-mo and dubstep like that other channel I like" and you'll be pressured to do it, too. For the subs and the likes. Excellent video and I am all caught up. Will be looking forward to the future of this excellent channel. Hopefully its not full of explosions. If I had any extra income id definitely Patreon. Also im definitely trying to spread word of your channel to get you legitimate subs. -edit- Doing what you want to do also includes slow-mo, explosions, dubstep and explicitly stating that the gun is clear before handing it off to Mae or spinning it around or whatever. I dont know im in a weird mood tonight. The point im trying to make it just dont do what just anyone and everyone tells you to do just to get the subs. That includes me (im nobody btw). Carnikon gave absolutely zero -expletives- and he produced excellent content, if thats what you liked. Too bad he had to pull the plug.

I'm so Jealous. Here in the UK, it's pretty much impossible to get your hands on a weapon, though luckily I think anything made at least 100 years ago counts as an antique, so I may be able to get an antique licence.

An interesting weapon development program, showing what one of the (mis)steps in the late 19th century arms race looked like. Also, Archivist is Georgy Konstantinovich Zhukov? I'm sure there's no talking or running in his library. Hard as bloody nails!

I have one made in 1889 by Amberg. It’s number like 2500. I think it’s super cool

Interestingly, the Chinese licensed version of this rifle (Type 88 Hanyang) was used until WW2.

My amp goes to 11 - all the others just go to 10 - mine goes to 11 - thats one more

Wish you guys had more subs. love the channel and the history you guys teach. keep it up! ps Mae looks really cute with short hair :)

I'll get some original clips for testing, it is a smooth rifle if used with good clips. I've never tried the repros but I know from friends with matching rifles and original clips they work well.

Loving the show guys! One thing I noticed....you are not afraid to shoot these old warhorses. Probably a lot of collectors fingering their prayer beads everytime Mae pulls the trigger.....I say to hell with those guys. Show us how they actually shoot. If our ancestors had the balls to pull the trigger, no reason no to now. Keep up the good work. BTW how do I give more money to get secret insider videos?

Thanks a lot. :)

YES! :D Can you do the '71 next?

You should make a video on the Prussian 1871/84 Mauser! There is not much information online about it.

YES I LOVE THE DANZIG

aha! I knew you got a HS cam!! Can you say what it is?

Sweet, two parter. Cannot wait for the next rifle, and love the touch of that guy looking up from the desk at his paranoia. Makes it always fun to watch. Also I hope down the road we can get like a list of top 5 guns you guys and girl enjoyed taking out to the range and firing during all of this.

With intellectual rights remember that IF a patent is granted for an idea or design in some area or nations, then the idea or design automatically becomes public domain whereever the patent was not applied for, in some contexts copyright is wider if an idea is not patented because then the implicit public domain status elsewhere does not occur.

Very informative video with a nice rifle. I just bought a Gewehr 88/05. Mine has been in Turkey, it was sent there by Germany as war aid during WW1. Luckaly my rifle is still in it's German configuration, it's not re-built into a new model as many "Turkish" Gewehr 88's are. It's mostly matching also, except for the stock and the Czech replacement bolt. The only thing the Turks did to it was bluing the receiver and sanding the stock. So the German markings on the stock are unfortunately gone. But all the German markings are present on the rifle itself.

I think we need to see a C&Rsenal twist on the Mosin-Nagant

Could we see in the future a Q&D Guide to the Gewehr 88 and its derivatives?

"On that happy note" I laughed.

i have seen these before as a German deer gun. a lot came home in a duffle bag in ww2 . ive seen a good one with double triggers and good wood .engraving and a scope for 2,000 us.

Girth hmm anyways thanks for the share besides fallice references this was very informative

"if you want the bolt out of this gun its as simple as pinch and pull, straight forward" no, straight backwards *canned laughter fills the room as i collapse on the floor in a seizure*

So question. If my gewehr 88 has all the aforementioned improvements (including the one mentioned in the next video) will it actually be safe to use standard 8x57 mauser? Or should I stick with the older stuff?

Awsome episode as always but you forgot to mention that part of the reason that the barrels popped on the Danzigs was because they were Misfits ;)

is it worth having a gunsmith convert a parts gun to the 1914 standard. if u have the needed parts ie the lower magazine/trigger guard and the lip to hold the rounds in place?

I know I'm late, and I know I'm nitpicking, but just at a cursory glance at Wikipedia.... shouldn't the cartridge be noted as Patrone 88/ M/88? or is there a detail i'm missing and you can load the pointed 7.92x57mm into the commission rifle?

No mention about Chinese adopted the same model, and kept producing them up to the 1940s?

excellent as always!!!!! so are you guys going to do the mp 18 (though i think i know the answer to that one)?

Keep it up

Looking forward to the next part, do you guys plan on mentioning the Type 88 as part of this or separately?

I know this video is about 2 years old, but did you ever try this gun out with an original clip? Do you know what the bore on this one slugged out at? I have 1 of these with the .318 bore and scrubbed of all marks except having a stamp of J. Kowar in the wood under the buttplate.

That bolt though. . .

Another great video, I'm so glad a found you guys. And Mae is a fox :-)

I recently acquired a gew 88 build at Spandau in 1894 only problem is it is missing the bolt face. i have searched extensively online but can't seem to find one. Does anyone know a source for Gew 88 bolt components?

If you want to try with an original Clip I'll send you one! My favorite rifle.

Good video, as same. Like your both comments, Otis and Mae. But let me inclinate to Mae. ;-)

I want to buy a few of these rifles that are in por shape I want at least 1 good one for the collection that I can shoot. the others can just sit there and look cool 😎 thanks for this vid 👍

I suffered C&Rsenal withdrawal this past week..this fix does me good for a while..maybe for another day..

At 10:34, what is that rifle part that sits under the barrel jacket? It looks like a small metal plug housing the cleaning rod, but I cannot, for the life of me figure out what it's called. My '88 does not have this part, but I would like to see if there is one for sale. If anyone can please help out with this, I would appreciate it!

Good video, would like to note that Mieg succumbed to injuries on a hunting accident

Apparently I’d better learn about the Ross barrel in Canada to know what Mathias is referring to.