We are also spoiled by how well Garand clips are made.

I wonder if in 50 years, as new information arises we'll have a Primer 00X******* on some weapon. The Ross rifle of historical documentaries.

When lamenting the limited three shot capacity, consider that this bang stick came in when the US still used the Springfield trapdoor 73…

C&Rsenal is one of the few places where a re-release is a good thing

Just glad I could help a little bit.

As you can tell from the patent pending Gruntometer(tm) The Lebel is in fact heavier than most machine guns.

Ian Mccollum sees the thumbnail. *_Heavy Breathing_*

I always wonder how many of especially the French guns are actually loaned from Ian's personal collection.

41:30. This show has a long history of ejected rounds flying out at othias.

The whole issue with the elevator started during loading reminds me of the need to fire a "ghost round" on the MK-19.

41:28 ... "She has a button down there..." Too cool.

i used a berthier 3 shot carbine while deer hunting this past year.I could never get a clip to feed properly so i single loaded it. I loved every second of the hunt, and i agree it is the loudest gun i have ever shot.

Oh my, I was wondering when they would revisit the Berthier. A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.

Rock me mama, like an 8 lebel.... rock me mama it's loud as hell.....

I've been a Patreon Patron about as long as you've been on Patreon, THIS episode is exactly why,, you learned something more and you redo the older episode to share with us. Great Job!!!

Thank you Ludovic and Ian. Quick question for the stars. Are reports of enbloc clips getting damaged and being unusable that common in the records? I would think that a clip with ammo would not be easily deformed because the bullets are supporting it and helping it maintain it's shape. Just curious.

I was a teenager in 1962, and I'd go to the Fish Canyon Gun Range in Monrovia, California, the only big bore range in the Los Angeles basin. Guns & Ammo Magazine would come out there from time to time. They'd go to a surplus shop, and the surplus guys would say, Hey, take a bunch of our guns and shoot as much as you want. Here's a bunch of free ammo. Enjoy! All they wanted was mention in Guns and Ammo magazine. Their group was four shooting positions away from where I was shooting one day. They had a table full of dented, beat up war surplus guns. They actually got paid for this! (Ah, heaven!) While they they were shooting there was a particularly LOUD EXPLOSION!!!! The range safety officer called cease fire, all guns on the table, etc., and people came running over to the Guns & Ammo spot. One guy brought a first aid kit. A Guns & Ammo guy was standing there with a stunned, goofy look on his face. He was holding a French Berthier carbine! There was nothing wrong with the weapon. It had an extremely short barrel. It did this EVERY time it was fired. They only fired it a couple more times. Without ear protection, you're going to get blood coming out of your ears! Terrible!

"I want to fit my yellow little guy down there" TMI, but okay.

This pleases the Church of Gun Jesus.

I can imagine Gun Jesus in his smoking jacket (with a pipe, and a glass of Scotch) sitting down in front of the computer to watch this video, and bless it. Praise be to Gun Jesus!

As always a riveting watch that passes in an instant. Thank you both for all the time and effort that obviously goes into these videos. Thank you.

So did Mae have to wear ear muffs specifically for this gun because of the cartridge coming out of this barrel length or were the muffs a gift?

I see not being able to sleep led me to this video early woo

41:26 loved the catch, mae's always playfully upbeat and I appreciate that

my favorite history channel with another wonderful video. i hope you guys never stop doing firearm history.

Okay, thanks to this video I can now appreciate just how much of a detriment the Lebel’s magazine was to its function. Particularly with cycling ammo intuitively.

Awesome episode guys. I've been waiting for the update on this one. I never knew that about the rear sight. I doubt the sling loop sounds so rattly when there is a sling installed.

Just watching this for the first time from the playlist and you can immediately see how much smaller and handier it is than the lebel.

Do you happen to have any 32 french lounge?

Beautiful remake of an old episode! Looking forward to another one!

Thank you. I have been waiting for this episode.

Thanks you Ludovic and Ian!

Brilliantly done, as always. Thanks guys!

Yay! I finally made it through all the episodes! What a binge!

Love to watch these.. very well thought out and presented beautifully

That fireball and the clip "ping" though

Massive thanks to everyone involved in this excellent channel for keeping me sane through lockdown. I had to laugh when I saw the first new episode, which I had been eagerly anticipating for a week, was a remake. :P On the recurring theme of semi-pistol grips, was it military doctrine to use the sling to help anchor the rifle, making them less needed?

good episode guys, lookin forward to the next one

16:35 How noble... how majestic... how- the Cuirassier on the right is picking his nose.

Another wonderful episode

thank you people who help on this and Next primer

Just bought one of these but have not received it yet. Surprised and pleased to find this one in my email this morning.

I love the * for the updated episode number. If you ever go back and redo the SMLE Episode though you'll need to call it Episode Mk3***

13:31 the form is completely different but the function of the internal reminds of the Lee Enfield, especially with the V spring pushing on the sear and mag catch, along side the mag release being inside the trigger guard

G'day from the antipodes. I'm digging that GT stripe in yer hair Mae. (Channelling Lily Munster?) Doesn't distract from the quality content though. As always excellent work, & kudos to the entire production crew.

as always outstanding video, you guys rock

To add to the language confusion, in modern French a 'carabine' is rifled and a 'fusil' is smooth bored. Either can be of any length.

Another great production

I really enjoy the exchange between you two. I feel like you are in my garage with me. Thanks. D

It's fun hanging with you folks.

41:27 that was smooth as hell from both of you

This is my type of re-run. As always, great material and presentation. Of the carbines available to the Triple Entente, I would take the Berthier hands down over the others for fighting within a trench, despite its 3 rounds. Maneuvering with just about any other standard issue full power firearm in a trench would be a disaster waiting to happen IMHO. As for recoil, I've never heard anyone complain of recoil in combat.....now on the range that is of course another matter.

I tried buying one at a local gunstore here in Las Vegas, the old gunstore owner had a lot of rarities on the wall that unfortunately weren’t for sale

Quietly hoping for a C96 revist. Loved this one though, the Berthier is great.

Friends of C&Rsenal are friends of mine, thank you guys!

A mark of good content is always re-watchability. This is probably my third time through this one...

Great episode! What’s with the American Krag in a C stock behind you?

Thank you to all that contribute to this channel.If you have merchandise I will buy and advertise. Vive la France, vive la guerre, vive la sacr`e mercenaire

Who needs sleep when others and the gang drop a new episode

Question for anyone in the comments and C&Rsenal. If you were a nation in WW1 one with unlimited industrial capacity meaning you can choose anything, and one with the Industrial capacity of Italy or Austria what pistols, rifles, semi-auto rilfe/SLR, LMGs, and HMGs what would you choose?

I Iiked the discussion about the pros and cons of stripper clips, en blocs and magazines. Very enlightening!

"Aimons l'oignon frit à l'huile, Aimons l'oignon car il est bon, Aimons l'oignon frit à l'huile, Aimons l'oignon, aimons l'oignon"

I hope you plan to do a mas 36 episode one day!

Good enough new info that I forgot it was a redo.

24:44 OG Garand "ping"

Ha! That pun rocks! Third time is the charm! Now I know where Dry Fire came from! ;-)

Nice catch othais

Is there enough give in the system to load a 3-rd clip, press down and over ride the top round to close on an empty chamber but full magazine? Sounds more interesting given the lack of a safety.

I'm curious. When it comes to the en bloc system, are there any from the Great War period that eject the clip from the top similar to the M1 Garand?

I like to think I've seen one or two things in my life so far, but what in heck was the... monotrack? that popped up when war were declared? I'd like to see Scrapheap Challenge make one :o

Mae's grey streaks: I dig it!

12:40 Going from one round to three is a 200% increase, not 300%. Now you have to do a 02A** version :-p

Great channel, will you ever cover the german selbstlader rifles? The Great War brought me here

Would you take this into battle is easy this time, yes but for the three shot clip. Bang, bang, bang and then having to reload means needing more men to keep up a constant barrage of small arms fire of course combining these Berthiers with Chauchats means having good support for your automatic riflemen as you assault machine gun emplacements. The French WWI mid war small arms trinity, rifle grenade Lebels, Chauchats for covering fire, and Berthiers for pinpoint shots.

Same doctrine for box mags today for the USA, there are no disposable mags

Well done, as always! Could you please help me find information about the cupro nickel jacket that you called "mallacort?" and about the two gentlemen who developed that? Thanks!

So Im looking at images of the Armenian resistance on Musa Dagh and I notice like all of the picture of these specific guys have Berthiers? Do we know why that is? The images seem to be from 1915

Awesome catch at 41:20!

One very rare situation where I say "episode re-upload? Right on!"....

Am I correct that many of the weapons that this replaced were harder to load, such as the Le Bell, or were single shot. It seems to, if I am correct, that the 3 shots is an improvement on the way to the 5 shot or greater weapons.

Please do a video about the Bethier rifle models : )

@C&Rsenal 26:50 To be honest I don't even understand what a musket is in American parlance. There's still a school of musketry and in the Lewis Gun episode the predecessor to that was the McClean Repeating Musket Machine Gun. None of that deals with anything resembling a musket by standard definitions. Just what about the McClean Machine Gun made it a musket?

27:50 "Milled Chilledlid brass", why, that seems excessive?

I’m one of those future people now! Feels good.

Chassepot to FAMAS mark at 18:00

This Berthier reminds me of Paciencia from Fallout New Vegas. Three shots of .308 out of a Post-Nuclear Desert Rat Mauser Clone or three shots of 8mm Lebel out of a WWI French Cavalry Rifle that is super comf until you fire it... Which would y’all prefer? Yeah one is from a video game but this is the internet so have at it kind lads and gentlewomen!

I think it is interesting that at the same time JMB was bringing the similar Winchester 1894 with a tube magazine in a rimmed 30 caliber with smokeless powder. I'm surprised Browning/Winchester did not seek out a military contract. A 5 round lever action 8mm Lebel outfitted with a king patent might have been appealing to artillery, cavalry or genderarmrie.

Ok. Did y'all practice that clip routine? Smooth! 41:25

What size bullets does the mle 1982md

Mae, where in the name of all things holy did you find a tiger stripe camo shooting jacket?

41:21 🙂 just like they drew it up

It helps a lot if you're not trying to load carrots. The little carbine looks cute as hell...well, have to wait for Ian to tell us whether there's enough to be sanely affordable. Oh, what round was that?

Has anyone ever seen a 1892 Berthier carbine with what appears to be a name stamped into the stock behind the trigger guard. Can't read it good but it looks like P Dxxll 6 33. I have not seen anywhere that says a stamp should be there. My great uncle sent it back about 1944 from WW2. He said he took it off of a dead German soldier.

I don't understand what the "double hump" trigger does. I understand how the 2 stage trigger works, but I can't wrap my brain around what the hump in the middle is for. It looks to me like it would be cheaper to have the top cut flat.

are the bolt handles for the carbine and the full length rifle interchangable?

Will there be an episode on the Martini-Henry rifle? :D

I noticed Mae shoots with her shirt half tucked in. Am I right in thinking it's so her right arm isn't impeded by a restrictive shirt? Great video guys, really looking forward to that shotgun series 🙄

As much as I like this much-desired revised Berthier episode, I have to point out an issue with the animation's low-resolution rendering. Maybe you took an intermediate, work-in-progress version instead of the high-resolution final animation.

Bravo....

Interesting parallel that the secondary rifle became the main one just like the secondary Heavy MG from Hotchkiss overtook the Saint Étienne 1907 MG