History Primer 178: Webley No.5 Army Express Documentary

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Жыл бұрын

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Additional reading:
Webley Revolvers
Gordon Bruce and Christian Reinhart
Daily News (London)
26 April 1867
Express and Echo
09 April 1867
Wealth and Notoriety: the extraordinary families of William Levy and Charles Lewis of London
Robert Ward
Gun makers of Birmingham 1660 - 1960
Joseph McKenna
Littlegun.be
Adams Revolvers book
Small Arms of the Anglo Boer War 1899 - 1902
Ron Bester
Liege Gunmakers through their Work 1800 - 1950
Alain Daubresse
The Revolver 1818-1865
The Revolver 1865-1888
A.W.F. Taylerson
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@christoffermonikander2200
@christoffermonikander2200 Жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who wants a full length episode on the history and development of Ballistol, along the lines of a primer. It sounds like it would be a really interesting video.
@webtoedman
@webtoedman Жыл бұрын
Ballistol isn't water soluble, it is water miscible, forming a fine milky suspension of oil droplets in the water. It remains in suspension for a long time, rather like the old style "Soluble " cutting solutions used on machine tools.
@sergeantbigmac
@sergeantbigmac Жыл бұрын
So coming from a culinary background, that means its essentially an emulsion right? Like a ballistol aioli lol
@pb68slab18
@pb68slab18 Жыл бұрын
That was the first thing that popped into my mind.
@smartacus88
@smartacus88 Жыл бұрын
​@@sergeantbigmac Just say Mayonnaise like a normal human.
@jamesl5500
@jamesl5500 Жыл бұрын
​@@smartacus88aioli isn't mayo, but both are examples of emulsion
@sergeantbigmac
@sergeantbigmac Жыл бұрын
@@smartacus88 haha I knew id rile at least one person up with the word choice... Also yes like someone else said an aioli is technically different, not all aioli is mayo. Most arent actually.
@cseivard
@cseivard Жыл бұрын
If I had saved(as in “put aside”) $100.00 every time I “nearly bought one” at a gun show… I would HAVE one by now !
@BumroyV2
@BumroyV2 Жыл бұрын
This gun is gorgeous! There's so many late 1800s European revolvers with such beautiful lines and cuts.
@jonathanhudak2059
@jonathanhudak2059 Жыл бұрын
Agree 100%
@Pcm979
@Pcm979 Жыл бұрын
Don't panic that this isn't break-open. After all, every revolver is break-open at least once.
@Ensign_Cthulhu
@Ensign_Cthulhu Жыл бұрын
Aah, that wonderful short period in history where every cartridge revolver was a gate loader... (This may be sarcasm. There is a smaller possibility that it might be right.)
@SeraphinaPZ
@SeraphinaPZ Жыл бұрын
A permanent break-open revolver.
@christhesmith
@christhesmith Жыл бұрын
How does the "And this..." just get better each time?!? And why does pure information mix so freakin well with a dash of benign sarcasm? I love all of these vids..
@Siegerzkranz
@Siegerzkranz Жыл бұрын
Webleys Wobble but They Don't Fall Down
@jon9021
@jon9021 Жыл бұрын
Hahaha!
@jonathanhudak2059
@jonathanhudak2059 Жыл бұрын
Lol!
@paleoph6168
@paleoph6168 Жыл бұрын
Love this new series on the other Webley revolvers guys! I can't wait for you to cover the WG revolver.
@cannonfodder4376
@cannonfodder4376 Жыл бұрын
Ayyy, another C&Rsenal video to watch and possibly fall asleep listening to.
@jonathanhudak2059
@jonathanhudak2059 Жыл бұрын
Loving these less commonly known types of Webleys and Tranters etc. Certainly some interesting designs and features that each one may have had over its predecessor too. Great stuff once again you guys! 👏
@onmilo
@onmilo Жыл бұрын
So basically, the new Henry .357 Revolver is a reinterpretation of the original Webley blunder?
@jdrumgoole
@jdrumgoole Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal Жыл бұрын
How much do you like obscure webleys!?
@jdrumgoole
@jdrumgoole Жыл бұрын
@@Candrsenal more of a general contribution rather than for this specific episode :-)
@jacktehgamer1
@jacktehgamer1 Жыл бұрын
Another banger from C&Rsenal
@mike36dc
@mike36dc Жыл бұрын
I love Ballistol. Even though it smells like vomit, it works great. And it's only a mild vomit smell. This stuff cleans and lubes very nicely.
@cseivard
@cseivard Жыл бұрын
I propose an experiment: 1. GIVE me a WEBLEY. 2. See how long before I can scrounge appropriate belts and a white helmet?
@quarkbent9165
@quarkbent9165 Жыл бұрын
I love seeing the joy that Mae sometimes has firing these guns
@rodwilson6648
@rodwilson6648 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Well done. What I like most is that apart from the pic showing all the European revolvers, I own an example of every revolver you either showed or pictured.
@afwalker1921
@afwalker1921 Жыл бұрын
Dang it! This is out of the vault? It couldn't be more timely for what I'm writing! You guys do it all...
@davidbrennan660
@davidbrennan660 Жыл бұрын
Good pronunciation of Birmingham...... UK style.
@linesma
@linesma Жыл бұрын
Personally, I am not a big fan of revolvers. However, I love the history. Othias and Mae have taught me to appreciate them. Thank you so much! I look forward to seeing more.
@mattutt2888
@mattutt2888 Жыл бұрын
The birds head grip limits its utility as a hammer.
@beargillium2369
@beargillium2369 Жыл бұрын
Unless your enemy is a bird 🐦
@johnfisk811
@johnfisk811 Жыл бұрын
Which is a good thing.
@SlavicCelery
@SlavicCelery Жыл бұрын
But it has weight. "Weight is a sign of reliability. If it doesn't work, you can always smack them in the head with it" - Boris.
@arandomfawn5289
@arandomfawn5289 Жыл бұрын
Nothing a bad nail won’t break
@thurin84
@thurin84 Жыл бұрын
on purpose i should think. however you can always turn it sideways.
@anthonyioane4438
@anthonyioane4438 Жыл бұрын
This was interesting, thank you for engagement.
@cliffcollins2497
@cliffcollins2497 Жыл бұрын
Great job,as always. Thank you and take care from Alabama!
@freddieellis8449
@freddieellis8449 Жыл бұрын
On an unrelated note, could we please have an “Ian can’t Othias” playlist on the channel, please? 😂👍🏻
@timberdrifter8225
@timberdrifter8225 Жыл бұрын
Good one. That is my favorite webley. It's a strange regressive bastard child. I like the balance and the sights. I've shot one and thoroughly enjoyed it.
@SafetyProMalta
@SafetyProMalta Жыл бұрын
I blushed when he mentioned beat up army guns used as a hammer...😂 Done it. Seen it got the t-shirt.
@kevinvogler2380
@kevinvogler2380 Жыл бұрын
“Heavy and a little awkward” I guess I’m the human version of the webley no. 5
@charleykeenan6171
@charleykeenan6171 Жыл бұрын
Always learn many new things from you guys! Fantastic episode 👏
@rodwilson6648
@rodwilson6648 Жыл бұрын
You're talking about the rebounding hammer at 11.05. I can confirm that my RIC No.5 Army revolver (#77417) has a Stanton type double spring and rebounding hammer exactly like the illustration at 10.55.
@blanktm228
@blanktm228 Жыл бұрын
Glad you keep making these good job!
@pb68slab18
@pb68slab18 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Always wondered what the revolver was that Paden bought in Silverado for $5.
@alexandertaliaferro2621
@alexandertaliaferro2621 Жыл бұрын
Whoohoo! More Webleys!
@ditzydoo4378
@ditzydoo4378 Жыл бұрын
This to me looks like it could have been (and should have been) chambered in the .45 Schofield, and just maybe .45 Colt. Webley missed a trick there with the American market.
@tomalong99
@tomalong99 Жыл бұрын
The .476 variant could chamber .45 LC so should handle .45 Schofield just fine.
@ditzydoo4378
@ditzydoo4378 Жыл бұрын
@@tomalong99 thank you, so very nice to know. ^~^ and yes, if one has a .45 Colt it will chamber the shorter .45 Schofield ammunition.
@kevinoliver3083
@kevinoliver3083 Жыл бұрын
As mentioned in the video the Army Express does chamber .45 Long Colt, as well the British service cartridges. And it was also made in 38 WCF, 44 WCF, and .44 S&W Russian. And the
@ditzydoo4378
@ditzydoo4378 Жыл бұрын
@@kevinoliver3083 Yep! it only took me two viewings to see it. though the thought still stands. had Webley prominently marked and marketed it to the west with a rebounding hammer, they would have sold a ton.
@HarryFlashmanVC
@HarryFlashmanVC Жыл бұрын
Very aesthetically appealing, this one.. it looks like it means business!
@pompmag
@pompmag Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the very strong backstrap was an attempt to appeal to the Navy. Back in the single shot pistol days seamen were trained to throw their pistol at the enemy after firing it, and so their pistols were very robust. I imagine that the senior officers in purchasing-decision-making positions in the 1870s/80s would have served and seen combat in that era so may have been focussed on the strength of the frame to withstand being thrown like an axe and hitting something solid at short range.
@thecount5558
@thecount5558 Жыл бұрын
Between the Colt 1878 and the Webley No 5... for some reason I actually have a preference for the Webley.
@teggy689
@teggy689 6 ай бұрын
Just happened to be rewatching this video while reading the "Webley Solid Frame Revolvers" book from Schiffer publishing. Thought that pistol looked familiar, then I saw the serial number was exactly the same as in the book! It's pretty expensive, I assume, the add has it listed for 4 pounds, 15 shillings, and 6 pence (if I am reading it correctly). The ad also says it was available in two calibers, .476 and .44. The "No.5 .476" will chamber .455 (Enfield Mark II), .476 (Enfield Mark III), .450 (Enfield Mark I) and .45 Colt.
@Dapstart
@Dapstart Жыл бұрын
YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Tankej0527
@Tankej0527 Жыл бұрын
The brits made a colt! It really looks like a colt
@Gamer_1745
@Gamer_1745 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Great show
@stevenwestswanson9263
@stevenwestswanson9263 Жыл бұрын
Great Video!
@TylerMcL3more
@TylerMcL3more Жыл бұрын
Holy crap- Ballistol really wants my business… first Wranglestar was suggesting it’s use and now you guys… I’m kinda obligated to pick some up now…
@chaimafaghet7343
@chaimafaghet7343 Жыл бұрын
It's useful stuff. It's not magic, but it's cheap enough (don't get the aerosol) and you can use it on literally everything.
@LadyAnuB
@LadyAnuB 10 ай бұрын
Manual safety firing pin also serves as rebound position so a 2-for-1 solution
@francesconicoletti2547
@francesconicoletti2547 Жыл бұрын
Still released a year before the Reichsrevolver. The retro revolver market obviously had not quite got into full swing yet.
@Primarch359
@Primarch359 Жыл бұрын
The contemporary Michael Kofman Is my go-to source on Ukraine commentary.
@johnpatterson8697
@johnpatterson8697 Жыл бұрын
It looks like an improved Reichsrevolver
@fatttelmundo
@fatttelmundo Жыл бұрын
Woooh! Revolvers!
@TheBrewjo
@TheBrewjo Жыл бұрын
When you say 'Dirty and French' we say 'Chauchat!'.
@bhoward9378
@bhoward9378 Жыл бұрын
Bravo!
@garthrogers2269
@garthrogers2269 Жыл бұрын
To me, the step backwards sounds more like a War Office 'request' to rugged-ize and simplify it for issue to the lower ranks and service in the more remote areas of the Empire
@woodsmanforlife1677
@woodsmanforlife1677 Жыл бұрын
And the improvement over the Colt 1878 is what? The wheel re-invented, once again. Thanks for sharing, great video as usual!
@chaimafaghet7343
@chaimafaghet7343 Жыл бұрын
Well, the advantage is that it isn't a DA gun from Colt. Kind of a shitty reputation.
@twforster15
@twforster15 Жыл бұрын
​@@chaimafaghet7343 to be fair, the colts are 100 years old.
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal Жыл бұрын
the Old Model had major improvements. the New Model walked them back.
@jefffradsham2297
@jefffradsham2297 5 ай бұрын
othias forgot to mention that ballistol helps prevent projectile disfunction.
@stitch626aloha
@stitch626aloha Жыл бұрын
Kinda surprised Ian Mc-GunJesus hasn't gotten in on this more often...
@sputnikjones6838
@sputnikjones6838 Жыл бұрын
I just bought my first ever can of ballistol. I haven't opened it yet ,but I will make some moose milk next time I shoot black powder..
@benpress8884
@benpress8884 Жыл бұрын
Nice work, as usual. How's that 1911 video coming along?
@PajamaPantsStudios
@PajamaPantsStudios Жыл бұрын
Neat!
@slowhand1198
@slowhand1198 Жыл бұрын
Cool.
@davidelang
@davidelang Жыл бұрын
a question on that hammer safety, does it pull the firing pin back far enough that rebounding isn't needed
@VeraTR909
@VeraTR909 Жыл бұрын
Big Truck selling Ford fiesta's would be the ultimate bait and switch. Make sure you do sell truck nuts though.
@hermatred572
@hermatred572 Жыл бұрын
Neat
@chrismc410
@chrismc410 6 ай бұрын
Something you dont see everyday: Webley with a loading gate
@julianshepherd2038
@julianshepherd2038 Жыл бұрын
Birmingham is and was a city and made all sorts of metal things. Generally smaller ones.
@ZGryphon
@ZGryphon Жыл бұрын
At first, I somehow misread this as "Birmingham is a city made from all sorts of metal things," and it didn't really seem all that wrong.
@brianj.841
@brianj.841 Жыл бұрын
A little disappointed they didn't compare the webleys and tranter to the S&W #3 top-break. Would have liked to hear their opinions.
@tenofprime
@tenofprime Жыл бұрын
The #3 is a single action, kills it right there.
@brianj.841
@brianj.841 Жыл бұрын
@@tenofprime Oh, right. :/
@cseivard
@cseivard Жыл бұрын
Webey Proof mark in .455 for the T-shirt?
@justinbellio2285
@justinbellio2285 18 күн бұрын
2 pounds, 12 shillings. Thats about two and a half pounds plus two shillings Which equals about four hundred and ten dollars in today's money
@igorbarbosa4044
@igorbarbosa4044 Жыл бұрын
I don't know why, but it's a good looking hun in my opinion
@WalterBurton
@WalterBurton Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@chooseyouhandle
@chooseyouhandle Жыл бұрын
Wesley's Olde fashioned
@storyrogin117
@storyrogin117 Жыл бұрын
Comment that shall remain
@cjphillips90
@cjphillips90 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. Commenting for the Algorithm. The episodes are out of order in the playlist, it goes 177 179 180 178, so when you are able to, can you fix it?
@xXGatekeeper49Xx
@xXGatekeeper49Xx Жыл бұрын
But what about the tup-brk
@stewartstone3926
@stewartstone3926 Жыл бұрын
It's English. Was Lucas Electric involved ?
@keithagn
@keithagn Жыл бұрын
No, because the gun would always function 😅. Regards from Canada 🇨🇦
@sterlingallis6702
@sterlingallis6702 Жыл бұрын
I want one
@enscroggs
@enscroggs Жыл бұрын
"the horn..." Oops.
@yesthecrumbs5806
@yesthecrumbs5806 Жыл бұрын
"Rebuilt in south Africa" "Monkeyed around for a bit" 😂
@deforesttappan6478
@deforesttappan6478 Жыл бұрын
I have never heard of triple action! What is it?
@ericmckinley7985
@ericmckinley7985 9 ай бұрын
Old terminology for a double action because cocking the hammer back for single action is the third. Term holds its place somewhat for the arc of revolver development up to its plateau in the early 20th century.
@ronalddunne3413
@ronalddunne3413 8 ай бұрын
What is a "triple action" revolver? How is it different from a "double-action"?
@TenaciousTrilobite
@TenaciousTrilobite 7 ай бұрын
It is capable of being fired as a single action or a double action. 1 + 2 = 3
@robertsmith4681
@robertsmith4681 Жыл бұрын
What is the purpose of the triangular nub sticking out behind the trigger ?
@jamespalmer7629
@jamespalmer7629 Жыл бұрын
It's the sear. It holds the hammer back and releases it when pressed by the trigger. Having it exposed like that seems common on Tranter-style revolvers
@robertsmith4681
@robertsmith4681 Жыл бұрын
@@jamespalmer7629 Thank you, I could not for the life of me figure out what it could possibly be for as it makes no sense for, say, a weird manual safety or something like that.
@carlcarlton764
@carlcarlton764 Жыл бұрын
Video is up for 4 minutes and it has 4 comments. Score 4 for the dedicated followers of the channel.
@RyTrapp0
@RyTrapp0 Жыл бұрын
Europe's complete and utter inability to get revolver ergonomics right, even when they had the often superbly ergonomic American examples to copy off of, will always be one of the most fascinating aspects of firearms history. It makes absolutely no sense, just mind boggling.
@matthewrowe9903
@matthewrowe9903 Жыл бұрын
Honest question but is it normal that the older i get the more intresting these older quirky firearms get ?
@user-yv3zy2ru5g
@user-yv3zy2ru5g Жыл бұрын
Можете сделать видео с автоматом Фёдорова
@ericmckinley7985
@ericmckinley7985 9 ай бұрын
They do not exist in the USA
@merlinwizard1000
@merlinwizard1000 Жыл бұрын
60th, 30 May 2023
@lorenzogiuliani9144
@lorenzogiuliani9144 Жыл бұрын
SAA in d.a.?
@derekp2674
@derekp2674 Жыл бұрын
Or British homage to the Colt 1878?
@Eulemunin
@Eulemunin Жыл бұрын
Feeding the algorithm
@henryattfield8979
@henryattfield8979 Жыл бұрын
Engagement
@johnkilcer
@johnkilcer Жыл бұрын
At least we know what girl jean pockets are for. Lol
@julianshepherd2038
@julianshepherd2038 Жыл бұрын
He said Dirty and French and i thought ian would appear.
@johnreed3576
@johnreed3576 Жыл бұрын
My fav revolver! Can we own them in Britain,,,, like hell we can!
@derekp2674
@derekp2674 Жыл бұрын
Well we certainly can own these, but we'd most likely also need to own a section 7.1 or 7.3 firearms certificate unless we were lucky enough to find one only chambered for an officially obsolete cartridge.
@dwi2921
@dwi2921 Жыл бұрын
​​​​​@@derekp2674 What cartridges are considered obsolete anyway? I've done a brief overview of the laws in the UK but it would be nice to have a definitive up to date list. I assume 450 Adams and 455 Enfield would be alright, but 476 Enfield would not? We still have a bit to deal with when it comes to antiques here in Canada too. At first glance an antique requires no license to own and applies to any firearm manufacturered before 1898. But on further investigation it's not that simple. For example any repeating firearm (other than a revolver or semi auto pistol), or any firearm using a cartridge with a bullet of 8mm or less, is always a modern firearm. Requiring a license to own. Furthermore any 12GA/Bore cartridge gun is considered modern. When in comes to handguns it becomes even more difficult. As any handgun 45LC and pretty much the entire .38 family of American centerfire cartridges will always be considered modern, even if they only shoot black powder. Even all reproduction match, wheel, flint and percussion lock reproduction handguns are considered modern (whereas reproduction match, wheel, and flint reproduction longarms are not). As it stands now, the current "modern" (any handgun manufacturered after 1898) handgun market has been frozen by the government. So you couldn't get an Uberti 1851 even if you tried. I think we may have fewer options than you guys, now that I contemplate it.
@derekp2674
@derekp2674 Жыл бұрын
@@dwi2921 In the UK a list of obsolete calibres forms par of the Antique Firearms Regulations 2021. I think there is also a cut off date of manufacture, which must be before 1939, and anything held as an antique must not be ever fired. So modern replicas do not qualify. None of the British service revolver cartridges are on the list. I suspect this is because batches of brand new .450 are available from time to time and will chamber in all of the later .455 and .476 chambers. S&W .44 Russian was recently added to the list because some criminals were acquiring revolvers in that calibre and then getting ammunition made using modified .44 Special cases.
@dwi2921
@dwi2921 Жыл бұрын
@@derekp2674 Damn, that sucks. I had heard about the changes in 2021, but didn't know about 450, 455 or 476. Also what the deal with criminals using antiques over there, it's not like there is a shortage of illegal modern handguns in Europe/UK? So you would be able to obtain a No5 Express in 38-40 or 44-40 then?
@derekp2674
@derekp2674 Жыл бұрын
@@dwi2921 I'm sure both 44 40 and 38 40 are not on the obsolete list. Also, despite what some press reports might suggest, illegal firearms are relatively hard to obtain in the UK. I've seen other press reports that show some of the firearms used in crime are converted blank firers or reactivated deactivated firearms. So whilst some criminals can get hold of decent quality black market firearms, the prices paid are high enough to stimulate the offer of lower cost but poorer quality options.
@connarcomstock161
@connarcomstock161 Жыл бұрын
Liked and commented so Gun Sasquatch can eat.
@daviddudley1655
@daviddudley1655 Жыл бұрын
Maybe they used their middle finger to pull the trigger instead of the finger we use nowadays
@dino2gnt
@dino2gnt Жыл бұрын
ENGAGE!
@SlavicCelery
@SlavicCelery Жыл бұрын
I almost feel like this pistol was a joke. Someone decided to make the worst pistol mocking what the army wanted as a joke. They found it and insisted on it. It makes sense no other way.
@owen368
@owen368 Жыл бұрын
Click thinking it was a minuter to find it's a 54 minuter.
@Lomi311
@Lomi311 Жыл бұрын
Hey, 54 times the fun.
@smartacus88
@smartacus88 Жыл бұрын
The Colt 1873 was considered by the British to be "too delicate a mechanism for colonial service" ?? Thats absurd 😂
@tenofprime
@tenofprime Жыл бұрын
Now we know who the richshrevoler was made for!
@hailexiao2770
@hailexiao2770 Жыл бұрын
It makes me wonder what they would have thought of a Ruger Super Blackhawk. Still too delicate? 🤣
@chaimafaghet7343
@chaimafaghet7343 Жыл бұрын
Colt's DAs don't exactly have a great reputation.
@chaimafaghet7343
@chaimafaghet7343 Жыл бұрын
@@derekp2674 No, Colt had a London branch and they were well known to be crap.
@chaimafaghet7343
@chaimafaghet7343 Жыл бұрын
@@derekp2674 The SA ones were fine, but Colt really fucked up DA and since SA only persisted in the US, it kind of shafted them on British contracts.
@rockydavis94
@rockydavis94 Жыл бұрын
How do you know so much about guns? Is your dad a military man?
@Dr.LightMarker5613
@Dr.LightMarker5613 Жыл бұрын
There are few things more attractive than a gorgeous woman holding a gorgeous gun.....
@rlbadger1698
@rlbadger1698 Жыл бұрын
#1 comment, ya that's me first
@nobodyyouknow1065
@nobodyyouknow1065 Жыл бұрын
Top-breaks are cooler and therefore better. This is the least cool Webley.
@jonathanhudak2059
@jonathanhudak2059 Жыл бұрын
Anguirus!
@jcameronferguson
@jcameronferguson Жыл бұрын
"...which sounds both dirty, and French." Othais, you can just say French
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