HistoryMarche this is amazing i love watching them and they get better every single day

@@ilikemusic8935 Thank you very much.

@@HistoryMarche NOOOOOOO... This could have been a great trilogy series!! You skipped the Battle of Sterling Bridge & Falkirk with only honourary mentions. Will you agree to make prequels?

@@rishi7629 Hm, not a bad idea. They definitely deserve videos on their own. I'll probably come back to these infantry vs cavalry battles, so more Scottish and Swiss battles are certainly on the agenda.

@@HistoryMarche The Battle of the Golden Spurs would be ideal.

Was the Schiltron like the Swiss Formation?

@@alorikkoln Basically yes. Both are similar to phalanx, and long pole weapons (like pike) play an important role in both.

Carlos Rodrigo Hi, the Schiltron was usually oval in shape and mobile, it could fight in any direction. If fighting in a static position it changed to circular. Some people say it gave rise to the later British square as used at Waterloo but that is just conjecture. Cheers.

@@nor0845 All that fancy talk and I know you just played medieval 2 total war

You fight with whatever you have

hehe, I was hoping someone would comment on this.

@@HistoryMarche Heid (pronounced Heed) would be how we spell and say it, but I still loved seeing that comment 😂

what a jerk.

You forgot the ''OY!''

Don't you just hate when that happens? No respect for my stuff. And it was my favorite axe no less.

Literally a classic.

Nothing says "Greeks at war" quite like the word "Phalanx".

@@dononteatthevegetals2941 Not a "Phalanx", they used the Scottish "Schiltron"

@@CelticAngloPress2nd Twas a reference to Total War Rome 2 chief, i know what they used but I understand why you thought I didn't

I saw it...on a re-Run!!

:D

Same here, I actually laughed lol.

@@RexOlafusVidulusMagnus 5:13

At least he didn't attend any colour themed weddings lol

@@kaiserlaniusvulpes2759 #LOL, Kaiser - I wonder if he had to fight any dragons, or court any Dothraki queens...?

Blame Edward II for deciding to pitch his camp in a marshy/boggy area where it would be hard for his cavalry to deploy. A really stupid mistake as he made no use of his light cavalry to spy out the land in advance and discover what would be suitalbe for horse, and where Robert the Bruce had dug his pits and traps in advance. THe English looked to Edward II for firm decisive leadership in a tricky battle dspite their paper advantages - they needed Winston Churchill, but instead got Boris Johnson.

We did the same to the french at agincore.. win some.. lose some..

@@achilles2095 Yeah but the French performance at Agincourt was even more daft than the English at Bannockburn. They were all too busy arguing about who should lead the charge(s) and never bothered to even reconnoitre as to whehter there was an easier and drier route to the English camp around and to behind via the trees. Oh no, I tell a lie - one French noble did send a few light cavalry to scout the area, and they reported it free of English and ideal for moving around and catching them from behind - but the noble then ignored their advice as apparently he felt that attacking the English from their undefended rear was 'cowardly'(!)

Outlaw King does a great job of depicting the battle too

@@xj900uk Not to mention the French allied, numerous crossbowmen who were never re positioned or utilized! Henry knew, months if not years in advance, the French were in an defacto civil war and thus chose to start the campaign at the height of French disorganization and internal conflict.

Bruce's heart was buried at Melrose Abbey.

@@Bruce-1956 I know. I’ve been there.

@@willbee6785 good for you.

Was related to David I as well, why they supported him and where given the title Annandale, an ancestor of Robert (also named Robert lol). Was a procession to the abbey in 2014 for the 700th anniversary. The nave in Dunfermline is named after David I (why Robert I successor was David II).

Thank you

Reminds me of Jauffre from Oblivion.

I find it rather obnoxious, while the rest of the video is very well made...

The guy who was the narrator before sounded like John Oliver

Indeed!

Here at Bannockburn, Freedom we will earn

Join the Scottish revolution

Freedom must be won by blood

Now we call for revolution

Play the pipes and cry out loud!

It's not clear that Angus Og was there at all; only Barbour makes the claim. It is very likely that he was deployed to the west coast to disrupt attempts to bring troops from Ireland. IIRC Professor Penman has written about this in some detail.

@@jalanlengkok Angus Og was there with his thousands of Islesmen. Many historical accounts mention him and the longstanding friendship between Angus and the Bruce that led Angus Og to risk all for that friendship. Some even name Clan Donald's chiefs at the battle. I have Penman's book as well as 40 others. It's ok but not great. Many have the death of Angus Og wrong and some incorrectly say his older brother, Alexander Og, was a traitor to Bruce. History written by the jealous and those who lost. Why would King Robert reward Angus Og with all those isles and lands if he did not stand with him in battle? And why would he decree that the Macdonalds would forever have the honored right flank in battle?

@@reganwalker8858 There is only one account that puts Angus Og at Bannockburn and no contemporary account even mentions Clan Donald leaders at all. Given that the whole Scottish army might have been 7000 strong at most there clearly was not a force of thousands of Islesmen. Angus was killed in Action in Ireland. Dr. Penman is a great authority on this period and I think one would need to provide some very solid record/narrative evidence to contradict his analysis.

It's not my video! Having made fresh translations of all the Latin/French source material I can absolutely assure that only Barbour puts Angus Og at the battle and.

@@jalanlengkok I guess they were just wrong.

What celebration is this? In Natal we are celebrating the day of Nossa Senhora da Apresentação.

@Leto Alexander i am a huge fan of K&G. They are the Roman Empire at the peak in history video content hahahaha

@@miguelmontenegro3520 none, Just eating a jerk beef "pastel" with "carne seca" *jerky beef you know Hahahha ;)

@@qbbruno8279 Carne de sol in the northeast. With make it with the pilão and put it to dry in the sun.

same bro but here in Curitiba ✌️

Plus it is rather simple to produce, allowing easier release/quicker of such videos.

It's almost dumb luck since it's a defeat purely brought by arrogance infantry can't give chase to cavalry if instead of running head on they tried to encircle them while opening the front for archer fire and cohesive infantry advance on the front even if the english infantry were less disciplined they will contend enough for the cavalry pressure to be to much. In short normally 2:1 ratio with cavalry superiority means full on slaughter for same reason that infantry can't give chase to cavalry; they can't flee from cavalry it's why medieval armies are composed of lots of archers and cavalry gotta remember that archers also doubles up as simple infantry with an advantage of range threat.

@@azlanadil3646 - 😆😆

Not only was England beat by a army half it's size they got beat by guys in dresses. How shameful.

@@neganrex5693 - how can you try & take the mickey out of England when you’ve got Jimmy Krankie as your 1st minister 😆😆 .. get a grip womble 🇬🇧 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

"You say Bannockburn, we say Culloden, 'cos it's not the Heats, is it Jock? It's the Finals..." The Pub Landlord.

And lost their freedom again in 1333 after Halidon Hill etc. Funny how the old English vs Scots thing is still rumbling on today.

You fought for who owned the land you were on lol. Fairytale story

@@Stephan74 good for you

What is a Warrior Poet anyway, someone who wounds with harsh language? “Take THAT, tubby Englishman!” Me: “Ouch, I’m just big boned”….etc

Yep, that was the point :)

@@HistoryMarche great work again lads!!

@@chiefchief2771 exactly

The square with an "X" through it is the standard military symbol for an infantry unit. Blue means friendly and red means hostile.

@@johnedington6083 I mean the Scottish Saltire is the oldest adopted flag by an country (832 AD), Alba was a definition used by English people of the land inhabited by Picts and Scots, while Scottish people are a general collection of Scots (originating from Ireland as you say) but also Picts too (originating from Scotland itself). So your dumbass implication that Scotland has no origin, isn’t really a country and is just another part of Britain wasn’t that great tbh.

Minor edit: *bled with

@@rishi7629 thank yae. I've learned something new.

"Scots wha hae wi Wallace bled" - first line of the poem/song "Scots Wha Hae" by Robert Burns, also known as Bruce's address before the Battle of Bannockburn, and sung to the tune of Hey Tum Tattie which was meant to be the marching song of the Scottish Army that fought with the French and Joan of Arc against the English at Orleans.

@@keithwright8626 Scotts fought with Joan Of Arc? I didnt know it

@@lukestam The Auld Alliance. Scots and French were allies, often against the English, from the 1290s to the Union of Parliaments. And until the French Revolution one of the Royal Guard Regiments in France were the Guarde Eccosaise

Thank you sir for the kind words.

do you know all the shit the US did in Iraq and Afghanistan and other countries ? England just did it 700-500 years before

Thanks for listening then glad your trying to learn about history throughout the world smile😊

the hell is sad about that

@jondickinson1056 bruh we broke away from those bri’ish so we wouldn’t have to be or know bout that history.. no wut i meen ore u jus nawt a reel patreeot rool tide?

Hm, I oddly never found mention of caltrops in the sources I read, but that's definitely a nice little detail. Thanks for the feedback. It actually makes sense that caltrops would be strewn about.

Caltrops are still very useful to police for stopping modern vehicles with pneumatic tires.

It also fails to advise the watcher Randolph was by this time earl of Moray

I mean that battle did happen in outlaw king

Lunct that was not the battle of Bannockbum, it was Battle of hills

@@Brandonhayhew battle of loudon hill yeah I was wrong

Matt Alibozek why not make a sequel it can still be good movie.

I'd rather they make a miniseries like HBO's Band of Brothers

DISCLAIMER: No Wilhelms were injured during the making of this video.

@@HistoryMarche Hahaha!

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Problem with England it's full of indians, Pakistani, and Welsh

Could say the same about our England the trouble with England it's full of indians and Pakistani boys

@@opticnerve8927 Wow, you just went straight to the racism, didn't you.

The trouble with England is it's full of Tories

to bad the communist have destroyed the truth in history. careful what they sell you.... get to know YOUR history, not their lies

@@timmayeaux2743 man, shut up

@@timmayeaux2743 PASHOL NAHUI

lol

it'd be more ma than mo, my becomes ma here

Thank you sir. Glad you enjoyed the video.

Best army in the world? Think the Chinese might disagree

@@roosterbooster6238 haha I think they might, probably should have said 'the Christian world' 😂

At the time, the French was more famous in the christian world with the influence of the Capetians, since the Battle of Bouvines in 1214. It was not until the Hundred Years War that it was really put to the test. Especially because the English will have learned from this Battle.

congrratulations for brave Scots, Alba gu bra

@PointBlank200 Even more in Empire, where the generals always charge into enemy fire range

@@miguelmontenegro3520 Oh no im losing the battle, oh wait, the enemy general just suicided in, nvm battle won

I play Attila Total War, the enemy generals are always located in the back & the cavalry always try to flanks from the side.

@pokezee king-wolf Arnt archers terrible in atilla? i never see them do any damage

Warhammer 2 ai: Some defenceless flank?... KOWABUNGA IT IS.

Hehe, I'm glad the video helped. Thank you for watching.

@gordon hunter no it was for a call centre lol

Go to the Bannockburn Heritage Centre & you’ll learn more. It’s great.

The people Alba brought u victory!!!!

I like him too but he murdered some in a church on sacred ground

I mean if you were in a situation where diseases are rampant and deadly I’d have lots of kids

Like everyone else at the time. Who knows how many others were born but didn't survive to reach adulthood.

Dead ones!!!!

And they all died horribly by hanging, drawing and quartering, except for Edward who was headstrong, impulsive and the least favourite of Robert's brothers although a brilliant cavalry commander. He died in battle in Ireland after being named Ard Ri in a later campaign.

Thank you very much!

I don't get it 🤔

@@NoName-cp4ct Edward Longshanks took the title "Malleus Scotorum" It means "Hammer of the Scots" Which was of course, pish.

@@NoName-cp4ct Edward I Longshanks was also known as the Hammer of Scots (as mentioned later in the video). Edit: I see that Gizmo was faster. :)

@@Artur_M. Edward Longshanks is revered in English memory, even though he was a murdering bastard - see the Sack of Berwick.

Good

If Randolph hadn't noticed that column of fresh horsemans,the Scots are dead

It would have been better if England didn't have a king with brain damage. A weak ruler has a huge impact.

@@mrfreeman2911 He's not a military genius alright,but I could say that he had serious skill issue.Relying solely on one strong branch of his army,not commencing archers efficiently,infantry unengaged and drowning while on the rout.

@@vietnguyenhoang5795 he didn't rely on the cavalry. He didn't have control over it and the leaders ignored him and did what they wanted, which cost some their lives. He had no control over anything and even failed to use his archers in a meaningful way. He learnt nothing from his father, who would have easily won this battle.

@@mrfreeman2911 Longshanks would have easily crushed the Scots by using combined arms and early scouting.The plan devised by English noblemans were just stupid-they used cavalry for attacking,cutting off the Scots' retreat,and performing other tasks without a smidgen of care about their infantry

There is not evidence to suggest that; it is far more likely that the gentry/nobility were evenly distributed to perform a junior leader role.

@@jalanlengkok Both statements have merit. The Scottish lesser nobility could not match the English heavy horse and often chose to fight on foot. They and their retainers would have stood in the front ranks to perform a junior leader role.

@@jacquesstrapp3219 Not so; the Scottish man-at-arms class was indistinguishable from their English counterparts - check out garrison records etc.

@@jalanlengkok The Scottish men at arms were definitely inferior in number and many of the lesser lords were inferior in equipment and mounts. If they would have chosen to meet the English heavy cavalry head on, they would have been destroyed. They were aware of this and wisely chose to fight predominately on foot. The Scottish cavalry that fought mounted in most of the battles were usually lightly armored and mounted on fast horses that could avoid the English heavy horse. Just so you know who you're talking to, I have been studying history for half a century and have over 2000 history books in my library. It's not likely that you are as knowledgeable on this subject as me.

@@jacquesstrapp3219 Inferior in numbers, absolutely interchangeable in standards. Given that I am a retired medieval history and war studies lecturer and that this is my specialist area and the fact that you have clearly not engaged with the primary source material (record or narrative) your claim to be more knowledgeable is - to put it mildly - questionable, however I would be most interested to read your peer-reviewed original research on the subject. Who knows? You may be right and all the medieval military specialists may be wrong.

What a tuneless dirge.

@Billy McCarthy As you just posted that in English, I suppose that you think irony is like goldy and bronzy except it's made of iron, right?

@@@dungtrumpet5490 want to talk about a tunless dirge?... how is God save the Queen? boring as. At least our anthem has some history to it. And before you go off remember that ENGLAND has relied on Scotland , Ireland and Wales in its defence for 300 years.. and the queen is protected by all four nations GUARDS. It is history what happened so way back. We cant change history. It is who we are and why we are bound. So before you go off remember one thing. when your father and fathers father were fighting against tyranny.... that man next to him was from Scotland, Ireland and Wales... and Im proud of that.

@@robbiegarscadden2311 "Our anthem has some history to it" - Yes, that whopping 60 years since some boring folkies penned that festering turd. BTW, I'm Scottish, it's just that I recognise bad music when it assaults my ears.

@@dungtrumpet5490 And what would you have them pen then ? At least it beats God save the fucking king/queen And Im Scottish by birth too so stuff that up your arse...... Might not be there now, but its our anthem so suck it up princess. And if I was there and growing up I would have joined my forefathers regiment the Watch. So accept that thats what we sing and 300 odd years ago we beat a force twice as strong and arrogantly thinking they were going to destroy us with heavy horse. And celebrate what Scotland gave to the world. Economics, Modern medicine, and engineering. Merry Christmas

Cheers man.

Only good part of Sunday

why Yes Sir

Thank you sir.

These people were Normans, using Scots and English plebs as there canon fodder..... As a Scotsman learn some history.... Henry, Bruce, Wallace etc were Normans, this was nothing more than infighting, you as a Scots meant nothing...

@@883mondo all I said was I enjoyed it, don't be a dick

@@883mondo sorry but you are trying to impose some modern class war type analysis to this. arguably the biggest casualties except on the mainly Welsh marches archers were not on the plebs as you put it but the knights/men at arms

You surely couldn't be more Scottish my friend. You people served well to Bonny Prince Cherlie too. Cursed red coats were runnig away every direction.

Fuck you I'm Scot the templers werent there and and your fucking racist comment i can do without the Scot won on their own strength apologise

yeah, sometimes I feel there is a huge gap btwn middle ages and ancient times. Feels inconsistent, esp. in Europe.

@@vardansimonyan966 yeah, cuz rome happened

@@dontbetrippin4575 yup. it took such a huge chunk that its collapse threw Europe back in times)))

Arguably the ancients didnt have the same technology - namely stirrups and specialised saddles that allowed massed heavy cavalry formations with some rare exceptions. The Normans made the knight king of the battlefield but Bannockburn, or the Battle of the Golden Spurs in Flanders before it was arguably the day that infantry began to regain its importance. The lessons the English learned in Scotland, particuarly the use of massed longbows, served them well against the French up to the end of the hundred years war.

@@calicheSCOT I think the main lesson they got is, don't charge a pike wall head on like an headless chicken

Thank you my friend. It means a lot coming from you. Yeah, the time constraints for this one were a huge challenge. Thankfully it turned out alright.

Geralt.Of.Arabia sending my love and respect to Kuwait!

Saor Alba...free Scotland..independence is coming again !!!

I’m free I vote I work I can go where I want.... Stop peddling this freedom myth.

@@Sagalands Its quite pathetic really, they act like children desperate to be oppressed like their hero ancestors

Oh do pull your tongue out their arse will you, Wallace was no saint its documented he used too kill woman and children ffs real men?

AHAD, how do you figure???

@@richardauchinleck1234 Because he is the true Braveheart, That was never Wallace's name. Your history is bad if you never knew that. Robert The Bruce best King to ever sit on throne of Scotland.

@@davidwallace4416 , I repeat, how the hell do you figure? 900 years of history is bullshit??

@@davidwallace4416 , I repeat, how the hell do you figure? 900 years of history is bullshit??

@@richardauchinleck1234 700 years of history actualy, and I repeat Wallace was never called Braveheart, That name belongs to Robert The Bruce. Richard 1st of England got called Richard the Lionheart through his crusades. I'm a historian so stop embarrassing yourself and if you live in Auckinleck then I live very very close

Thank you for watching.

Geralt must stay aside from politics Remember how it ended up last time? :P

@@vardansimonyan966 hehe, indeed.

Scotland attempted to invade England just as many times, but people seem to forget that...

@@dragondov Of course, but that's a topic for another video.

Thank you sir.

Attacking from the flanks or rear would have been a smarter use of the English cavalry, but this was still in a time when armored mounted heavy knights with stirrups and couched lances ruled the battlefield and pike-wielding infantry were once again coming back into vogue (like Alexander the Great's Macedonian Greek army of old). The rise of pikemen with gunpowder slowly decreased the importance of such knights.

Eric Connor schiltrons operated 360 degrees

Cavalry were a central part to winning battles throughout that period, as you could use them to flank, break shield walls and encircle your enemy. However, this battle made cavalry very much obsolete. Giving rise to shiltron, which would then cause the English to focus more on archers and other forms of projectile attacks.

The Schiltrons did not work for Wallace at Falkirk or Bruce jr at Neville's Cross during the invasion of England in what along with Flodden Field is arguably the greatest defeat in Scottish History as at Neville's Cross the Scots outnumbered the English 2-1 and were almost completely annihilated with the Scottish King captured and spending the rest of his life in an English jail in both occasions they were shot to pieces by Archers. Their success at Bannockburn is more to do with infighting amongst the English leadership and their inability to work together and come up with any form of coherent plan than the inherent strengths of the Scottish Infantry

Thank you very much for watching.

Though neither of his two sons were incompetent.

Jaime was the best warrior in the world and Tyrion was the best politician and both were pretty good commanders.

@@jengaaaaa i wouldn't go that far you seen season 8

GRRM said he based Tywin Lannister on Edward Longshanks, so your intuition was a good one

Hard times create strong men, strong men create peaceful times, peaceful times create weak men, and weak men creates hard times.

Gives me goosebumps every time.

@@HistoryMarche Okay. Now do Edward III's triumphant return at Hallidon Hill and then do Neville's Cross where in Robert Bruce's son David was first beaten in battle and then captured.

@@doug6500 don't forget a Scottish king controlled England before the other way round

And William Wallace get waaaaay too much credit for all of it

@@doug6500 fuck off ya sore loser, we're only talking about Bannockburn, you hate it that we actually beat you & gained our freedom, typical English arrogance 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

well mostly what would have happened was not cycle charges into pikes but instead the cavalry would have attempted a charge, some would have tried going through it (and ended up dying) most would've just backed up and tried again. The main fighting force after the cavalry charge was the infantry as the cavalry continued to try to find openings. The issue again was a lack of openings and the fact the Scots continued advancing forward into marshy land which hurt the cavalries attempts more.

the best way to devastate pikes and spear walls are arrows. Once they retreat then you charge (but only if the ground is suitable), if not then dismount and attack on foot. the cav is kept in reserve to encircle or mop up if needed. battle won easy.

Thank you sir.

@@greengiant1017 Yes, I am delighted to find out more about muslim's history that rarely on the limelight and always distorted and biased. Besides, I am a history enthusiast, and seeing a top quality documentary like this, I can't help but to fangirl..

@Jamie Kennedy calm down, sir. Take time to learn about Islam. Peace.

@@hafidzin Islam has proved to be anything but peace.

@Jamie Kennedy what the heck

Are you kidding, Scotland is the perfect choice :D

I took over europe with the scots in mtw1 lol

I had done campains with Irland, Wales and Norway, but after this video, I going to start a new one with Scotland

Noble pikemen? 😂👍

You best DL medieval kingdoms 1212. For Atilla TW. It's amazing.

That's very kind of you. Thank you very much.

I've introduce my fiance to your lessons. She and her students love them. I hope your videos ignite the history spart for the kids.

It does nit bear much relationship to what we know from contemporary material.

Indeed and the defence of the hollow square against cavalry was merely another permeable solution of the phalanx.

That just killed me

Funny until one gets you in the eye

They were to comfy on these horses. That wall of pikes takes some balls to charge which they lucked.

@@tomk3732 that wall was made up of a mass of sharp points which were actively seeking out weak spots on the knights and most importantly, their horses. A dismounted knight was an isolated and easy target who could not be helped by his comrades, and fallen and injured horses thrashing wildly around would have been an obstacle to further charges and a menace to men on both sides of the line. Not a fun place to be.

War darts were no joke: they were basically like Bo shuriken, or like small arrows that could be thrown by hand, as well as on horseback.

Scotland gave sanctuary to the Templars correct as Bruce was castigated by the Pope for killing in a church

@@Valhalla88888 Racist cunt it bullshit no Scots won our salvation without templers

I have listening devices in your house. I know everything! :D

@@HistoryMarche HELLO FBI I have a complaint

Thank you sir. Welcome to the channel.

Give the English the vote on it...

@@markletts2000 we all know what people like you think... I don't hear people like you asking to have a vote to remove those who rape your woman by the thousand - - individual rapes are now in the millions in your country as reported by thoes who broke the scandle. People like you are nothing, don't look after your own, have no respect for others and in turn have no respect for yourself. You have no say over nothing.

I sincerely hope you are wrong, the SNP want to throw away 300 years of history for no other reason than an ingrained hatred of the conservatives. This simply isn’t a good enough reason, and given what I’ve seen of the SNP and their supporters I doubt they fully understand the consequences of their actions. In fact most SNP voters I know are the most bitter, resentful and hateful people I have ever known and their true colours have really come to light since the independence and EU referendums. I remember working across Scotland during the 2014 Indyref and absolutely everywhere I went - Glasgow, Stirling, Fort William and even Edinburgh I saw Better Together posters vandalised, spray painted, torn down and laying on the road sides. In fact I don’t recall a single Yes campaign poster that was vandalised in this way. I even saw billboards in the fields that Yes voters had taken the time and effort to spray over and in one case set on fire. Funny that, brave Scotland wants to be an independent nation once again but within an intrusive European Union that doesn’t even like them or want them to be independent. See if there was a genuine and good reason for independence then these Yes voters would probably be able to hold up against the argument for it. But instead they resort to bitter anti conservatism, personal attacks, vandalism and violence. It doesn’t matter to them the Scottish deficit is the highest in Europe or that Scotland is more heavily subsidised than England or Wales. It doesn’t matter to them France, Spain and Belgium would veto their re-entry to the EU. It doesn’t matter to them the SNP can’t say what money the country will be using and be paid into their bank accounts at the end of every month. It doesn’t matter to them that all their NATO allies are also opposed to breaking the Union and nor does it matter to them them that NATO, an organisation they want to be a part of, uses nuclear deterrence as its primary method of security all the while demanding trident be scrapped. Yes the inconsistencies in what the SNP want are an eye opener indeed

@@D97mgtow 300 years of history will still be there, the bad and the good but that's like saying half the world should go back to being under the control of Rome because there was hundreds of years of history or that India should rejoin the British empire . But to be part of a right wing forever tory UK is not Scotland. We are an inclusive people, who rely on Europeans and immigrants to help create our society where the poorest have as much chance as the rich (free education and prescriptions) . Il not deny there was dirty tactics on both sides of the referendum but to say it was only the yes side is a falicy. Better together supporters were just as bad, countless yes posters defaced, especially after winning the vote *cough cough nazi salutes George Square surrounding the two girls ..... Its time that Scotland stands once again as a nation and not as a prisoner. The political landscape has shifted and its clear that its not working.

Scott Morrison That’s not true, the vandalism and violence were almost exclusively committed by the Yes side. I was a logistics manager at the time and travelled the whole country in my work. I honestly did not see a single pro independence poster vandalised. The thing about politics is you need a balanced system in any independent country which means you need both a left and a right. You are obviously a leftist being SNP but you need to consider that an effective and powerful right wing political party would also develop in an independent Scotland. Most likely they would be who we have now, which are the conservatives. These are people who will uphold the same principles and policies as their parent party in Westminster so again I think many people on your side don’t consider this. It also seems that issues like the deficit, the EU, what currency we would use, NATO etc are completely irrelevant to the SNP. It’s almost as though the SNP want independence at any cost even if it sends the country spiralling into austerity, debt and turmoil. To this day I still can’t get a clear or consistent answer from Yes voters regarding any of these issues. Conversations just breakdown into aggression and insults then they stop speaking to you altogether. You think Scotland is a welcoming nation? I agree but so are England and Wales, England especially has been hit by immigration on a scale that people here in Scotland can barely imagine so if you don’t think Scotland will eventually run out of patience in the same way as England or indeed any other large European country then you are mistaken. Consider a city like Glasgow where people have been knocking lumps out one another over being catholic or Protestant, I can assure you if a city like Glasgow saw large scale immigration like Manchester, Leeds, Leicester or London then it would likely become one of the most racist places you have ever seen. Those 300 years of history include an empire, however questionable it is, we were happy to benefit from at the time. It includes an industrial revolution that saw us catapult to the most productive nation on earth. It saw us fight and win two world wars against all odds. It saw us play the most significant role on the continent in keeping communism out of Western Europe and much more. Again to throw this away based on nothing more than a dislike of the conservatives seems not to be a very intelligent or carefully thought. The inconsistencies I mentioned like wanting to be a part of an EU that doesn’t like Scotland or want it to be independent still haven’t been answered by any Yes voter I know. The EU sees Scotland as a Provence or a backwater, not really a country. Likewise the drive to rid us of trident all the while wanting to join NATO is a head scratcher too.

Glad you enjoyed it!

Thank you sir.

The Egyptians are also a great nation.

that seems quite childish to say the least

@@jnes624 For sure, it was.