That Germany golden generation lift 2014 World Cup

@ArjenRobben Mr.Wembley history only remember winners not runner up, Messi is criticized not wining title in International level but Messi was runner up both World Cup and Copa as well as U20 World Champion plus Olympic Gold medal winner

@ArjenRobben Mr.Wembley Germany Golden generation lifting 2014 world cup was the big achievement, 2002,2006,2008,2012 failed to cross final hurdle.

@ArjenRobben Mr.Wembley Netherland won Euros, but they deserve to win 1974 world cup if Cruff played 1978 then could have won that tournament too. In 2010 Netherland reach the final but Spain 2008-12 was unbeatable

@ArjenRobben Mr.Wembley By that logic if Higuain scored then Argentina could have won 2014 world cup, IF and Buts not work in football. In 2010 Spain was far superior where 2014 was Germany. If Netherland that generation played in 2018 then easily won 2018 world cup, France was just above average team if Argentina was defensively organized France could have eliminated in Round of 16. Netherland in 2010 and 2014 was stronger but Spain and Germany were ahead of Netherland, in 2014 defensively organized Argentina eliminated Netherland but lost against Germany. 2010 & 2014 World Cup Spain and Germany ahead of the rest. 2018 World Cup was equal for 4-5 teams unfortunately Netherland golden generation won't able to play in the tournament otherwise Roben, RVP, Snider create riot in 2018

That Brazilian team had very great Team atmosphere around them that's why they were in 3 consecutive finals.

r9 was the one back then the real one

Ronaldinho: I had an overbite

England: we have a golden generation Spain 2008 to 2012: sure you do 🙂

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bullshit. they were all wankers and they couldn't genuinely hate each other. he was right in saying there was no chemistry and that they were divided. but it was not because of the club situation. it was because they were weak mentally. in 2002 Ronaldo was Brasil's best player and he was glorious. Beckham was England's best player and he was just a wanker. he could kick a ball well, but he was a wanker, just like everybody else in that team.

@@myroslav6873 You have some issues man, go watch that video on sky. They clearly said that they felt divided by club. And if you think that some of the best footballers in the world are wankers then I don't know what to say.

@@areebsiddiqui758 Tactical analysis of other teams is so much more accessible and scientific these days that you don't have to worry about players giving away club secrets because they almost certainly know them already. As such they can communicate much more freely and cohesively as a group of professionals and work together better.

@ Areeb Siddiqui I am sure club divides was a factor if they say so, but surely also just one of many factors. Firstly, 'The golden generation' had it's best players in the same position i.e. central midfield and lacked grossly in others i.e. wide midfielders/forwards. Stewart Downing.. Also lacked a top class striker/target man like Kane. Secondly, Lampard and Gerrard really weren't actually as good as regarded in the UK. No where near the likes of Xavi Hernandez, Iniesta, Pirlo. Mourinho and Rafa turned them into goal scoring midfielders at the sacrifice of developing their passing game. It went downhill when Scholes retired. Thirdly, the choices of managers were appalling. Aged, over-the-hill serie a managers that wanted England to play Italian football of the early 90s. A style outdated and completely unnatural to English players.

@@cakefordinner1762 Mate, not having you talking trash about Lampard. Man was a generational talent. Gerrard was always a bit overrated by Liverpool fans tho. I do agree however that there was an overload of players in midfield. As well as the fact that England never had a truly great goalkeeper.

> When you're so focussed on your club that you still see your team-mates for the World Cup as enemies, it's pretty bloody hard to make a good team that will win something. IIRC that's also part of the reason Spain constantly underachieved for so long until they won three straight major titles, including a World Cup.

Just another excuse, there's more divide in Spain and more rivalry. They dominated for 8 years. England will always be shit. Hyped up too early, and their head goes. Then out come the excuses after another shit tournament.

English players only look good when there is a foreigner next to them that has some skill & creativity. The exception being the center backs.

heliumtrophy didn’t seem to hamper Italy, Spain or France though so I don’t get what the issue is tbh but hey Rio was there amd I wasn’t. I’d just argue there were more talented squads than England’s

@@wesleymcglone6937 That Spain was 70% Barcelona players and even the style of play was the same, with some other players filling the gaps in the positions Barca had foreigners but they had to fit the group's ideas.

Had this been produced in the U.S where they repeat everything 5 times before moving on this would have been atleast 60 mins long. I much prefer this and yes, he did great work with this 🙂

@@MrJagger112 rent free

Still, if only David Seaman had jumped

@@Emper0rH0rde but we both know,white man can't jump

As much as I criticize the so-called golden generation of England for constantly putting club rivalries above national unity, there was no winning against that Brazil side, even if that England side played as a team with amazing chemistry.

@@akiranatsume3501 2002 wasn't in the "Golden Generation" era

@@lukebennett7149 It was the very start of it.

4-4-2 is still a pretty old school formation though. Hard to dominate the likes of Portugal and Spain when you are overrun in midfield

Up to 2016 🙈

English football in the 2000s was extremely competitive with Man U, Arsenal and Chelsea becoming extremely dominant

That club mentality thing is bullshit. Italy team had players playing for Milan, Inter, Juve, Roma and still managed to win the World Cup. Same with Spain who had players from Real and Barca. Everyone needs to admit that this team was overrated and current England team is better.

@@sugamgautam4318 the point he made was that the Italians were able to put the club rivalries aside and become one as a nation. Early 2000s England just could never do that

Its the media that gave them the title golden generation.🤣 What did they win to be called golden generation. Terrible in South Africa's world cup worse in Brazil world cup.

Did you watch the video?

Both Gerrard Lampard need is a seating midfielder. Not a left winger right winger. A seating holding midfielder. If Becks doesn't want play seating, put in a Nicky Butt, Barry or Carrick, then put Scholes above the trio. There you have it. Best number 10, a B2B in Gerrard, a free scoring Lampard allowed to roam. A system that could finally tick.

They are shit defenders abs shoot every 4 seconds, good club players but efficiency is key in international

No. They were not the best players in the world.

They are not great midfielders. A great midfielder controls the tempo of a game like keane or xavi or pirlo niether lamps or gerrard can control the tempo of a game because neither have the technical ability

Morons commenting here. Gerrard was the most complete midfielder of the last 30 years, could do everything. Lampard was a fantastic attacking midfielder for Chelsea.

Maybe, but as a brazilian I can assure you that we never understood how Scolari - a champion, yes, but an average coach - manage to best you in three competitions in a row. And de Brazilian Squad in 2002 wasn't a golden squad: It had Ronaldo and Rivaldo, as two world class players (and Cafu/RC, ok), but the rest was common players: Gilberto, Kleberson, Edmilson, Lucio...I mean, the odds were even, at least. And Portugal...man, they had heart, but their squad was worse than yours, for sure. Ricardo Carvalho, Maniche, Deco and Figo...ok, but look at this: Lampard, Gerrard, Beckham, Scholes, Rooney, Owen...all the players - ALL OF THEM- are LEGENDS. It's the thing that only World Champion Squads have - and only sometimes. It's really a pity that the history didn't get England as a World/Euro champion during the 2000s. You really deserved it more than Germany/Turkey/Korea in 2002, Greece/Portugal in 2004 and Portugal/Germany in 2006.

Anthonio Jorge Would like to point out Im Irish and not English 😂, but I see what you are saying, England overall probably had better individuals but they were poor as a team unlike Brazil and Portugal

@@danielmurphy8262 Sorry! Hehe

100% plus seemed a team of individuals who could be matched by say a compact talented together Sweden team time and time again.

@@justablokepostingfunvids7137 That's why Greece won in 2004. The team wasn't really talented but with teamwork and workrate, they won the Euros.

2004 Euro was the best chance at least Greece wasn't deserving

France had a lethal team, zidane and Co, how they didn't win more I'll never know.

@@rajaryan5036 They beat portugal twicwe, in portugal, then it means you have won!!! Greece eliminated spai in the group phase!!!! Greece beat France, and the Czechs, who had elimiunated denmark 3--0 in the quarter! They deserved it, they took it, and will keep it forever! That´s how it works, no matter what you may think!!! The ONLY time a foreign manager won the euros, OTTO REHAGEL!!!!

they played brazil off the park 02 but just couldn't get the goals needed, brazil haven't really ever got back to that level since that world cup imo.. france after that world cup declined for a few seasons also. The italians may have peaked around 06 but still feel england had a better side than them they weren't expecting a wc final that year n have been way off the mark over the past decade themselves .. around 04 england had the best side in the world on paper just never played to their potential

@@Socman-fu1gs You do not win on paper, you win on the pitch!!! Football is about scoring, if you do not score, the other side might , and it is over. England is not good enough, midfielders not good enough!! Ronaldinho, Zidane, Hazard, they have all punished England! Beckham was a hype, never was the leader to lead England to victory!!!!

He already made video... Take a min to search

So true

You don’t need the best team in the tournament to win it

MortalPhoenix 12 yeah, but the hate the team gets for “not performing” isn’t justified

@@ollie072 You actually do. Spain had far and away the best team at the 2010 World Cup, 2008 Euro, 2012 Euro, so did France in 2018 or Brazil in 2002. Good players win you games.

Not best team but maybe best group of individual talent

maybe he wrote a memoir about it...

Well he most def. wouldn’t have taken a shitty pk like Rashford

@@ohhiitsjustme3445 Still don't understand why Southgate didn't pick Grealish for the penalty kick.

I personally think that's a nonsense explanation. We've produced some poor teams and some very good teams. The latter have come very close on many occasions but seem to always find themselves on the wrong end of bad luck and fine margins. You can't say that's down to class because by the next time, it's a totally different set of players. I don't think anyone has claimed Grealish is a potential Balon d'Or winner but he gets into probably the best club side in the world at the moment.

Playing paul scholes on the left was the worst mistake. Any other nation in the world would've built the team around him. Fucking Mr burns 😂😂

Scholes wasn't overated. They should have put Gerrard or butt behind him and utilised him as much as possible.

Still if not for the stupid penaltys, englands golden generation would been remembered as much more sucesfull

The "freescoring Frank Lampard" did not score once in 2006, not even from penalty spot

2002: Brazil were *lightyears* better than England, though. Brazil's *bench-warmers* were better than the best players on the England team. There was *no* shame in that loss. 2010 & 2014: Don't even bear mentioning

@@Emper0rH0rde You're right, it's just that England didn't even put Brazil under any pressure when they were down to 10 which was disappointing. If they'd had Brazil hanging on, or even just looked like they could score it wouldn't have been so bad.

@@Emper0rH0rde Brazil was stronger but England had many possibilities to achieve final if did not meet Brazil in quarter finals

Brad Denton yeah shoehorning players is always a risk especially with that much pressure

As an outsider this was something I always thought was England's Achilles heel. The pressure from the media to play their best 11 players rather than their best team, think Scholes on the wing. It's crazy how much the British press targeted their best players like Beckham and Rooney then blamed the player / team when they inevitably failed. Plus their squad was very thin, outside the first 11 the squad players were a big step down. Think heskey and vassell. Don't even mention the wags.

4-4 god dam 2 . Shoehorning players into a limited formation is always going to put severe limitations on the players. If Glen Hoddle stayed on past 96 till 2006/08 I have no doubt we would of done a lot better.

Scholes LM was just crazy

@@ActiveArron 98. Venables was in charge at Euro '96, Hoddle took over afterwards. He was already a laughing stock when he went due to things like hiring the faith healer.

Nice poker analogy

@@toiletcomputer cheers, i play quite a bit so see a lot of similarities with poker strat/situations and situations that occur irl.

@@henriquedaumas9934 I completely agree. And the fact that they try to diminish the significance of Pele's importance is ridiculous.

@@henriquedaumas9934 Can't say that I agree with you. I am English and I can assure you that most fans generally view England as terrible and expect the worst. There's always a noisy minority of nationalist idiots who think they are the best in spite of all evidence but I'm pretty sure all countries have those. Don't get me wrong I've heard some stupid things from pundits. I can remember with acute embarrassment one of our broadcasters interviewing the Brazil coach back in the early-mid 2000s when Rooney was a hot prospect and being hyped to the skies. He asked the coach (can't remember who it was at the time) what was the difference between Pele and Rooney -and it was clear from his tone that he thought Rooney deserved to be regarded as comparable. Obviously the Brazil coach was dumbfounded and just answered 'One is white, one is black' (a difference rather than THE difference...) and looked at the guy as if he was a complete idiot (accurately). I can assure you that English and indeed British fans do not 'diminish' Pele. Obviously if you're dealing with young people they always assume that the football of the past, especially when you're talking about a distant era like the 50s and 60s, is inferior. But most grow out of it eventually.

@@henriquedaumas9934 > As (someone who has likely never seen an Englishman in his life) > Let me tell you about them...

You must be an absolute idiot. None of the worthwhile players you mentioned actually played out of position. Also, Gatusso is a defensive midfielder and it is natural for him to cover for fullbacks. Now, Scholes by the time was getting put in a deeper midfield role for man utd. Would you, for example, play Carrick on the wings? Scholes never got a proper chance in the England squad because Erickson persisted with a 4-4-2, Lampard and Gerrard in the middle. It does not work, as where is the defensive link up? Don't you dare compare Matuidi and Pavard to Scholes, as that argument makes no sense. Pavard also played a lot as Rb? Scholes never in his career played as a winger. If anything, maybe Ericksen could have tried Scholes as an attacking midfielder, as Fergie did with him in 2002. But even then, that was all his fault. We got the midfield overrun every single time. Nothing better with Mclaren either. This is all down to the manager.

@Sevian Medina Yeah it seems like you never followed any of those players at all. I did, and I know Pavard played as Rb for Stuttgard quite a bit, and even as a winger. Matuidi has been moved around as well similarly.

@Sevian Medina You don't seem to follow anything I just said at all....... Let me reiterate: Scholes never played as a winger, but Pavard played as a Rb, and Matuidi played as a left wing back and left sided player, right sided player. Does that make sense at all?

Man U fans defend Scholes coz he was the best player in the league and admittedly he didn’t play well in the international stage but can you blame him , he didn’t suit the system and idk what your going on about not playing out of position coz he was constantly pushed out wide

@@desfefe if there needs to be someone on the wings and Carrick was the best choice out of the bunch I would. Playing an attacker, especially a technically gifted attacking midfielder, who has a knack for goals out wide is not really out if the ordinary. It would be worst if you are a slow rightfooted centre back asked to play a rampaging wingback role because the winger infront of you wants to drift... Oh... Wait that was what exactly Germany asked Howedes to do! Never played there but he did his role manfully if not awkward at times. Did he win a WC? Sure did! Also if we don't compare Scholes with Matuidi.... how about you look at Santi Carzola or Riquelme? Two of the slowest players who ever played football. but they play wide when their teams need them to.

Had Lampards goal been allowed England would have gone to win really???? Did you even watch the game Germany totally outplayed England that day and there was no had England scored that Germany would stop been relentless.Stop peddling lies.

@@superflick100 Hahaha, "Stop peddling lies" gosh, you're a bit triggered. The only reason why Germany "outplayed" England, was because England had to expose itself and Germany scored 2 goals on the counter, which is typical in a game where one is behind and has to leave open space behind. Plus, had Lampard goal stood, England would have felt invigorated, while Germany would have been deflated. That's how the psychology of games goes. Clearly, you've never played at any level in a proper team, only kicked about with mates. PS One lies when saying something they know to be untrue, what I wrote was my honest opinion. So, you either behave, or you'll be blocked for being unworthy of talking to.

Very well said

@@Alessandro-B his highest level of football tournament is, at a recreational park mate..... hahaah

If the Lampard goal was given England would've been trashed 4-2

Alot of politics in football. Walcott was the mixed raced golden child. Good for the agenda back then.

I remember everyone buzzing saying he'll be the secret weapon. Agree about Defoe though he didn't get anywhere near the amount of time in the shirt that he should have

Was Walcott not Part of the 2002 squad? That's when Eriksson was in charge.

@@yossiallen3316 no.

@@mitchellplaice7673 You're right. South Korea and Japan co hosted the tournament then. Walcott was still in his diapers back then. 2006 was in Germany where the players concentrated more on their shagpieces than on what they're paid for.......hence the outcome.

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too much club rivalry

Spain had Club rivalry in their squads and still managed to win three major tournaments

James Hetfield how it should be, who pays their wages at the end of the day. Club > country

Ramos and Pique hated each other but still managed to win 2 euros and a world cup together

what about the great Brazilian team of 1982???

@@ezeee595 same thing. Brasil 1982 and 2006 was the strongest teams Brazil had but they lost so we never know in football

Newcastle 2010 were better than 15-16, lol. What are you smoking?

Agreed, that Newcastle side was honking.

Fulham 18/19 would have to be up there

QPR 2013 might be the best squad to finish rock-bottom...: Julio Cesar, Traore, Samba, Onuoha, Bosingwa, Fabio, Park Ji-sung, Taarabt, Wright-Phillips, Granero, Jenas, Hoilett, Andros Townsend, Remy, Zamora. 25 points.

@@no.fourteen9316 after they spent all that money, yeah. Yikes...

Amazes me that the guy thinks stopping the keeper jumping by planting your arm over his shoulder like John Terry did isn’t a clear foul. Terry immediately looks round at the ref as soon as the ball hits the net, clear indication of guilt right there. It was a foul, end of story and I’m an England fan.

Thanks Will.

Not with a 4-4-2 formation though

Yeah play them in a formation where someome is a holding midfielder you have an decent midfield. 433 formation Hargreaves or Carrick, or Parker. But it wasnt going to happen as you had to drop David Beckham.

Drop one of them and put scholes in. Tell them how to play and drop them when they don't do it.

Should have started one and then substituted for the other later

Exactly.

When you look back at old teams they often look like dream teams because you consider the players as they were in their peak, not where they were at that moment in time.

They're all the same any way

Didn’t realise that mandleson had an illegal war

@@oj4574 ...well, we will never know who was pulling the strings during those times of bizarre claims by so called civilised western European, and North American nations. I genuinely thought it was merely an orchestrated PR exercise to mildly frighten leaders in the Middle East. I did not see the point of a war considering Iraq was already militarily compromised by a no-fly zone. After the start of that war, I realised how powerless we are to influence our supposedly democratic governments.

Funny coz you can tell what noel Gallagher is thinking 💭 lol 😂 😂 🍷

@@plipogamez3173 The no fly zone and the UN Sanctions Regime was breaking down. It was only a matter of time...

English media completely disregarded all the world class talent inside of the other Nations. Holland have been the biggest underachievers in world football.

They're standing their ground. If that's a foul so is virtually every corner or crossed free-kick.

@@HITCSevens, not it isn't. Because not every corner or crossed free-kick is the stage of two defenders samshing a goalkeeper whil standing their ground. The rules are very clear about that specific rectangle. And in the phot you chose, Sol Campbell's arm is clearly in the face of the portuguese goalkeeper. That is not standing their ground. That's a foul.

Funny that you should say Campbell's arm is in Ricardo's face, when the goal was disallowed due to a foul by Terry according to the referee, not Campbell. It would seem you're as confused by the decision as I am.

It's insane that the FA even thought of appointing Capello. He was always known to be a disciplinarian, not something which would sit well with English footballers. Italy was always ahead of others in controlling the diets and habits of players so his approach would work there but never in England.

@@pritapp788 well that tells you enough why they cant win anything

Particularly the 442 formation

My fondest memory was witnessing 10,000 Russian fans getting beaten up and stabbed by 150 rioting, over weight and sun burnt England fans.

Coming from someone who's not european, because the English game was never that interesting for foreigners before the prem (doesn't make it worse, I think the English game is getting too monetized at times), and didn't have all this economical power that it has now. Put, historically, Serie A and Bundesliga alongside Real Madrid and Barcelona and the English first division was never that powerful (maybe on par with Bundesliga at times but not enough). Just look at the National Team's titles for instance

Most of the time those leagues have one other worldly standout start, where as the English game had great but not amazing talent. The premier league is also 2 decades old, in which time Spain has accumulated a massive amount of the awards. England's only real claim for having the "best" player out of any league was a younger CR7, the rest of the time England had a fair share of 2nd and 3rd place players. I'd also argue that just looking at the Balon D'or is not a good measure of how strong a league is.

@@ALittleMessi You're absolutely right on the ballon not being a good measure. I did feel that it adds to the idea of where the best players want to be. The top top elite for some reason haven't come to the english league.

Because none of these classy players like the Brazilians wouldn't want to live in the UK cus of the weather they would rather stay in there home country like alot of Italians do

Have a look at the greatest [agreed upon] 10/15 players of all time, from that list you'll find Ronaldo as the only one who has played in the PL.

Well to be fair Sven did make strange decisions 2004 - Played Scholes on the left when he is clearly a central midfielder, and should have played the diamond formation instead of a flat 4-4-2 2006 - Picked Walcott, who hadn't played a minute of PL football by then, in the squad instead of Defoe and then Owen got injured, Rooney got sent off, and so Crouch had to play the lone striker role for the final hour of the Portugal game, cause I doubt people wanted Walcott to come on when he had 0 minutes of top flight experience

He was also far better than Capello... Oh and the shitshow of "Big Sam" 's short lived tenure....🙄

@@LilHobgoblin He had a 100 percent win record, please don't disrespect the legend Sam Allardyce

@@rohithraman6488 🤣🤣🤣

yeah, a stolen one.

@@alfredoelizondo5986 Salty

Also won a bronze medal at EURO 68.

@@rohithraman6488 Salty why? Just facts.

@@alfredoelizondo5986 Germany shouldn't have had a free kick leading to their second goal that forced extra time. Also England were the better team on the day.

Of course but we should have at least one other trophy by now mathematcally.

@@Genevasplaytime The usual "We should..." the sense of entitlement is one of your problems.Nobody should or deserves anything...you need to play better,its not enough to simply believe you "should" because you are England.Ask yourself the last time you actually saw a game played by England in a finals tournament that excited you......exactly.

@@antoniobravetti7483 I would agree with you but germany winning over us in 96 and 90 on penalties is hardly superiority is it? Penalties is not open play. England have lost 90, 96, 04, 06, 12, on penalties and that shows that we are not a bad team.

@@Genevasplaytime I like how everyone forgets about the penalty shootout England won against Spain in 96,but for which the semi loss on pens to Germany wouldn't have happened. Perhaps it was because Spain scored a legitimate golden goal winner in extra time that was incorrectly disallowed. As for the 12 loss to Italy on pens, I'm amazed that people even bring it up because then they are open to ridicule regarding the actual match where Italy made England look decidedly 3rd rate with nearly 70 percent possession and 36 shots at goal. The fact that England survived is to pens is one of footballs mysteries, in fact one of the British newspapers ran a headline saying "England thrashed 0-0", as for penalties if you had to reverse Italy and Germany pens records then Italy would be by a country mile the most successful football nation in Europe, as it stands they are 2nd,but England with final to their name are frankly punching above their weight in terms of expectations...

@@antoniobravetti7483 Italy have won 3 world cup shootouts and lost 1 so the truth is they should have more euro titles and less world cup titles as we see with the singular euro trophy. Spain deserved that goal true but England deserved a goal in 2010 against germany to level the match. Football is a dirty sport that even with VAR is mostly nonsense, you can have more territory, more passes, more shots, more corners, more shots on target and still lose which is why people love it. The offside rule is mostly bullsh!t as it makes no difference to anyone if your body is half offside, we English are stupid for caring so much about a sport that is 50% luck.

It would never work. We needed a defensive midfielder, as let's be honest, we never never going to beat Brazil's samba team, or Italy's Defensive powerhouse, and less so France's flair.

Honestly you could play a 3 man midfield with Scholes, Carrick and Lampard/Gerrard.

@@fuad_a7 with no cover from the midfield? It's suicide for me to put gerrard, lampard, and scholes play together. They have a similar style, and it never work.

@@desfefe I agree with you. Their problem during that time is the role of player in midfield area. They have lampard, scholes, gerrard, becks, but their style is pretty similar (good at passing, and scoring but the vision is not good like pirlo, xavi, or zidane, only scholes have that criteria but we know sven fjuck him out) . They need protection from midfield, like makalele or gilberto silva.

@@firstlastname4672 no, that's not what I said. Read my comment again, it's Carrick who's the defensive midfielder.

That’s what happens when players care more about the name on the back of the jersey instead of the one on the front

Yeah as someone who is a massive England fan I can admit to this and it infuriates me , we never seem to have a team which can genuinely “boss” a game through possession. I’m actually Scottish but have liver in England since I was four, so I support England. But it’s hard work supporting them

It's weird, does a truly crap team ever even get in the positions to be nipped at the line against the teams England would lose to? If they actually were as bad as everybody says they were, what does that say for France or Portugal or Brazil? Those teams should've blown them away 5-0, surely...

The world of football honoured him with naming a tackle after him. A 'Heskey Tackle' is one where you go to the ground for no apparent reason and with no members of the opposition around you.

Matthew Grigg Lyndon Dykes💛🖤💛🖤

Great idea

That would be a pretty short list

Mark Scwarczher, Mark Viduka, Harry Kewell, Tim Cahill, Mark Bresciano, Vincenzo Grella... Idk, Lucas Neill? Lol. Tbf, technically you could count Christian Vieri I suppose.

Not really about Italy. The 2006 team was strong but in the past many times was stronger. The problem for England is that their "golden generation" for Italy and Brazil would be the "normality" 😅

@@giuliom3564 then for example Brazil has currently a horrendously bad team. I think they had a magnificent team back then. Even for their messure

It’s not Sol who fouled him it was Terry. Terry was holding him down and preventing him from jumping. That’s why he’s immediately looking round at the ref when the ball goes in.

@@nickcockayne7880 we in Portugal also had the Abel Xavier hand against France, which was clearly a penalty, but many Portuguese keep claiming it wasn't, so I understand the feeling.

Starting to change now though will sancho and Bellingham

But will the Three Lions follow it up with more grand final appearances, let alone titles?

Also the tactics the team used meant Beckham played in midfield a lot, which meant his long passes bypassed most of the other creative players in the team, so their presence was basically pointless. The narrator says Eriksson wasn't clueless, but the evidence we (England fans) saw on our TVs at the time was pretty damning. You aren't going to win games by deploying Beckham (a winger who's the best crosser of the ball in history) in midfield. That just becomes easy to defend against. You play him wide right. And you play Scholes and either Gerrard or Lampard alongside him, with a defensive player behind them, so they can actually use possession of the ball! But that never happened. Although even with that basic adjustment, there's no doubt Brazil, Italy, France all had stronger squads.

@@tomchamberlain4329 yeah that’s another thing that bugs me about the golden generation stuff. International tournaments have very fine margins. Direct Elimination matches mean one mistake and you’re out. Other teams have had golden generations that never won anything. Portugal had figo, carvalho, rui costa, deco and Ronaldo and didn’t win anything in the early 2000s either. Italy had an insane golden generation in the 90s with maldini, baresi, Baggio, etc. International tournaments are rough because they’re few and far between and have very fine margins for error.

One of Sven´s problems, apart from his women beeing headline news, was the fact, so many players,coaches and journalists were against him, for being a foreigner. They wanted an English coach!!! And in the end, they got rid of the Swede!!

ok stfu. Beckham was a galactico, Cole is one of the best LBs ever with only Maldini ahead of him. Every game Ronaldo struggled against Cole, Gerrard, Lampard, Ferdinand were world class. Rooney was simply misused

@@kaihiggins725 Normally I disagree with England fans who overrate our players but in this case I agree. Cole was outstanding, consistently the best performer in the team for years. Lampard, Gerrard both great players although maybe they were boosted by the tactics at their clubs and couldn't adjust to a different system easily. Scholes should have been in the team but was random;ly played wide left then retired. Rio and Terry were world class. Beckham was great when he was played correctly, on the right. To be honest in terms of players the weakness was up front, there was only Rooney. They were still a little bit overrated as every national media overhypes their players. People act as if the team had a right to win tournaments but BRazil, France, Italy had stronger squads tbh

@@tomchamberlain4329 difference is Brazil, Italy and France had endless depth and the magic we aint had since Gazza. Ashley Cole doesn't get the credit he deserves tbh and he must be one of the only players who could battle with Ronaldo and often win (as he did). I think I don't agree with the Rooney situation however. He was still class however due to his overuse at Man Utd he was always shattered by the time the tournament came but at the euros he was decent tbh. Think be got 7 goals in 3 tournaments just the world cups never worked for him. In that era we needed even 1 oulf our 90s strikers lol

@@kaihiggins725 A young Robbie Fowler would have been a perfect fit in that 2006 team. But we probably needed a defensive midfielder even more tbh

@@tomchamberlain4329 personally I would have played Gareth Barry more ngl. Yes he isn't a wow name but he 1000% would have done the job. How tall was Fowler just thinking on the crosses from Becks no point having a dwarf up front lol. The perfect striker would have been Shearer in this team like 93-97 when he had pace. I think Harry Kane would have been great in that England team tbh hes done alot with poor service when comparing lol

Ronaldo is old