Hms Warspite fast battleship

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elswick1542

16 жыл бұрын

tribute to the royal navy's legendary ww1 and ww2 battleship
improved version.Queen Elizabeth class

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@talismannz 11 жыл бұрын

My grandfather, naval architect Robert James Grimshaw, designed this ship (the Warspite).

@keithstevenson418 6 жыл бұрын

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@HarryFlashmanVC 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent!

@robw7676 9 жыл бұрын

Every time I see HMS Belfast moored in the pool of London, I wish they'd saved HMS Warspite instead :-(

@nathanmavris3269 8 жыл бұрын

+Rob W At least they saved spmething!!!How about HMS Nelson and Rodney??They should have been saved.

@lawdawg1942 7 жыл бұрын

Some times you wonder about the logic they used on what is saved. The Yanks scrapped Enterprise. That would of been an amazing piece of history.

@robw7676 7 жыл бұрын

Nathan Mavris All the surviving battleships had claims to fame - Warspite just had the most, by a country mile: - In the thick of major capital ship battles in both WW1 & WW2 - She was the last surviving capital ship that fought at Jutland in 1916, arguably the biggest naval battle in history - which she survived despite taking 150 direct hits. - She was awarded the most battle honours of any Royal Navy ship, ever - She was awarded the most battle honours of any Royal Navy ship during WW2 - She is still the joint holder of the world record for the longest range naval gunnery direct hit on another ship. - She fired the very first shot on D-Day at 0500hrs, her opening salvo was the signal for the start of the attack. She continued to pour broadsides onto the German positions until she wore out the barrels of her main guns and was retired - talk about going out in style? Warspite was already an icon whilst still afloat. The 'Grand Old Lady' of the fleet. It should have been her, from the day she docked for the last time, there should have been no doubt or question about it.

@BlatentlyFakeName 7 жыл бұрын

Warspite was pretty much a wreck by the time WW2 was over. It was literally falling to bits after so much action. Real shame, once something like that is gone you can't replace it. Belfast was a relatively "new" ship though and was state of the art at the time, it served for quote a while after the war I think.

@mwnciboo 6 жыл бұрын

Yup

@myuboat45 7 жыл бұрын

my father joined the warspite before the war still alive today at 95 lives in Canada

@johnpinder5936 5 жыл бұрын

The warspite helped my late father with 47 Royal Marime Commando at Port en Bessin. They were gratefull for the help.

@russg1801 6 жыл бұрын

After learning of Warspite's exploits, it's clear this ship served the Royal Navy with as much distinction as HMS Victory. My God, they should have saved something of her, a gun turret, anchors, ship's bell, etc.

@tjd4600 5 жыл бұрын

they should have preserve the whole ship, i think it is more iconic than the HMS Hood

@trewavas2507 5 жыл бұрын

Part of her mast was erected as a memorial at Prussia Cove, Cornwall, where she initially ran aground on her way to be scrapped. The naval museum in Portsmouth holds several artefacts from her, as do several places across Cornwall. The guns at the Imperial War Museum are actually from HMS Ramillies and HMS Resolution.

@DODO-vy6sf 4 жыл бұрын

@@trewavas2507 More needed to be saved than just a few bits and pieces. She was supposed to be there by the Warrior in Portsmouth Harbour.

@craigbeaumont414 13 жыл бұрын

How can people dislike??? Shw was an absolute legend, read many stories about her in battle, especially against the Italian "Navy". Great ship!

@TheCharlie359 15 жыл бұрын

The most sucsessful battleship in history, she saw operations in all theatres in not one but two world wars, a LEGEND!

@guydulac3902 7 жыл бұрын

My grandfather was a Colour Sergeant (Royal Marines) and I found out that he was on the Warspite during the D-Day landings - I think, on X turret. In 2016, I ended up at a house at a small cove in Cornwall named Prussia Cove, fell in love with it and booked a holiday there for my birthday in 2017. Turns out, that this is where the Warspite ran aground as it went to be scrapped - who knew. Also in 2016, visited Portsmouth Dockyard and was invited to attend a Battle of Jutland expo for free - and there was the Warspite again. She had suffered an almost identical hit, damaging the rudder, in the First World War, causing her to turn in circles for hours whilst the Germans tried to sink her. Coincidence, I'm sure, but all very strange.

@kevanwilkinson1718 3 жыл бұрын

My Dad served on the Warspite until it was damaged in the Med, 1943 flying bomb I believe, he was transferred to a supply ship in the Indian Ocean while it was in for repair, he survived the war and died in 1986, just months before he was due to retire.. he spoke little of his experiences as many were reluctant to do of that extraordinary generation, if he'd live longer I'm sure he would have realised how important his story was and opened uo some more... a hero, one of a generation of real heroes

@rachelgibson6171 2 жыл бұрын

My Grand dad served on her for almost 6 years during WWII, she had 4 sisters Barham, Elizabeth, Malaya & Valiant. Barham was the only one of the 5 to be lost November 25th 1941 with the loss of 862 men. Barham & her crew are gone but never forgotten. Lest We Forget

@TorontoChannel 10 жыл бұрын

When she got her last refit with the new superstructure she became one of the best looking battleships ever :D

@nathandecrom2409 9 жыл бұрын

TorontoChannel shame it got scrept :,(

@TorontoChannel 9 жыл бұрын

nathan de crom Yes she should have been dry docked and preserved :)

@nathandecrom2409 9 жыл бұрын

TorontoChannel yaa... but ther wher som financial problems dat the reason why

@Denton1952 8 жыл бұрын

I sorta like her Jutland look better.

@kenstanding4039 8 жыл бұрын

Yes, British big warships were given that bland skyscraper wedge-block look.The original Warspite and her class were the best looking of those big battleships IMO ..... even better than the last American and Italian ones ..... solid, balanced, calmly strong looking, sturdy, like beautiful natural features afloat.Money to preserve her? yes but some thing deserve it anyway however tight things were. IMO scrapping her was more about RN lack of sentimentality and the public mood to move on to a peaceful new modern-looking world.

@robertlittle3997 8 жыл бұрын

my grandad was on this during world war two and he was a gunner

@Inucroft 13 жыл бұрын

The best WW1 & WW2 British warship if not of all time. She was one of most damaged warship of WW2 that managed to carry on sailing without sinking. My Great-grandfather, Harlod Croft, served on her ~1939-1943 (i may be wrong)

@Inucroft 11 жыл бұрын

My Great Grandfather served on her from ~1934 till ~1943 when she effectily became a shore bombardment ship due to damage. Narvik, the mediteranian, Hawai (Late November 1941), singapore and back to the med. He was with her. Thankyou for this tribute vid.

@arrak59 11 жыл бұрын

The HMS Warspite may not have been the most powerful battleship to sail the seas but no other battleship can touch her for the distinctive service she provided her country through 2 world wars. HMS Warspite tops my list of finest battleships ever built. I knew she was scrapped but the last part of this video sent it home. She should have been saved as one of Britains' National Treasures.

@elswick1542 15 жыл бұрын

My Uncle was in Tanks in WW2 he always remembered the Warspite as the ship that saved his life Salerno,the ship and crew were as you said Heroes.

@johnpinder5936 5 жыл бұрын

The Warspite was the only battle ship to have a direct hit on the large German gun enplacements on the French coast, during D-Day landings 1944.

@Sierra-Golf-19 8 жыл бұрын

My Wife's Grandfather was a CPO aboard This Grand Lady when she fired the opening salvo of the D-Day landings. At least the scrap man never got his cutting torch on Her hull.

@pcka12 7 жыл бұрын

24919344 I am afraid he did in the form of Macsalvors Cornwall, the still have a souvenir piece of the armour plate

@elswick1542 15 жыл бұрын

Visited the IWM in 1974 and looked in awe at the 2 15" guns at the front,could not believe 8 of these could have been fitted to a ship,then boarded the Belfast,one disappointed 7 year old,dad why is it so small,Belfast is a great ship but Warspite was stellar.

@macvidler 13 жыл бұрын

My grandfather Herbert Packer served as a gunner on the ship in WW1 and was captain during WWII. Nic clip

@elswick1542 15 жыл бұрын

I have had this dream for years,but I doubt any ship yard could build even a close replica,KC armour has not been in production for decades,wire wound guns since the 20,s,no yard in the world rivets ships,Parsons no longer builds Turbines just designs them(owned by Simens)and as Robinhood said the Health and safety Mafia would have a fit,but the dream never goes away.

@rickmorgan3930 5 жыл бұрын

Imagine yourself as a German destroyer sailor in the fiord in Norway and here comes Warspite around the headland .... I'll bet clean underwear was at a premium at that moment.... This has always been my favorite ship .... bar none ... and I was in the US Navy for 10 years. Wish I could have seen her in person

@elswick1542 15 жыл бұрын

Greatest ship of the 20th century possibly ever,I would give an arm and a leg to see her today.

@user-su8ly2rx2i 4 жыл бұрын

згоден. Greatest

@simodo11 7 жыл бұрын

It's should have been saved,a national treasure ,so much war time and big successes ,hit many times and survived ,such a shame!!!!!

@likesmilitaryhistoryalanmo9568 6 жыл бұрын

Indeed, I believe in the long run she would have made more money as a museum ship that as being simply broken up for scrap

@Morgteck 12 жыл бұрын

@skycaprob - Yes, the Warspite and her 4 sisterships all saw heavy action at Jutland. First they engaged Hipper's battlecruisers, doing significant damage to several of them. Then they engaged the main German battlefleet. The Warspite was the most heavily engaged of all, because her rudder jammed and she had to run a couple of circles with a very large part of the German fleet firing on her. Warspite took numerous hits from heavy shells at Jutland, but survived the battle quite well.

@kenstanding4039 8 жыл бұрын

Very moving ..... music works quite well.

@HingerlAlois 15 жыл бұрын

Nice video, one annotation: Both the German Scharnhorst and the British HMS Warspite hit at ca. the same distance, kinda impossible to say which one was at a longer distance. The Scharnhorst hit the aircraft carrier HMS Glorious at ca. the same distance as the HMS Warspite hit the RN Giulio Cesare.

@elswick1542 15 жыл бұрын

Never forget!Warspite and her crews were stellar.

@paintmodel 13 жыл бұрын

My father, who is still with us at 96, served as ships purser, CPO (Writer) Beattie. Once the ship reached Bremerton, the crew was disbanded. He eneded up in DC running the accounting office that oversaw money and material transfers between DC and London during the Leand - Lease program instituted by FDR to help keep the UK afloat before the US entered the war. I have an AP photo of him handing out paypackets on deck at Bremerton but can't seem to post stills on this site.

@__soap__ 11 жыл бұрын

my great grandad was on this ship

@elswick1542 15 жыл бұрын

According to an American author called Norman Friedman the Brit 15" 42 cal gun fired more shots in WW2 than every other heavy cal BB gun combined,it scored the longest shot BB V BB and the first shot on Dday,just as incredible it was designed in 1912!

@Hopfolk 6 жыл бұрын

Great video, elswick.

@cirvine11 14 жыл бұрын

Every time I doubt that ships have spirits... I remember Warspite... and I am convinced again. Along with the US carrier Enterprise-these were two lucky bad ass ships that should have been saved.

@elswick1542 15 жыл бұрын

Old ship but MK13 millimetric radar,without doubt the best shooting of the battleship era.

@rodrigogoncalves6165 8 жыл бұрын

One has to take in to account that, at the end of the war, Warspite was in a poor condition, following an atack by german bombers off the coast of Italy, that nearly sunk her. It would have been extremely expensive to repair it and to maintain it, at a time when Britain was rationing a lot of things, including food. On that note, it still puzzles me today, why so much money was wasted at building HMS Vanguard, when the King George V class was enough for the country's needs.

@Makrokosmos 8 жыл бұрын

+Rodrigo Goncalves Prestige. "We still are someone" was the statement that Vanguard made.

@mwnciboo 6 жыл бұрын

Rodrigo Goncalves Vanguard was a statement of "The Empire yet lives" especially with issues in the far flung UK possessions around the globe. To just ignore this would have been massively destabilising.

@elswick1542 15 жыл бұрын

Discussion some years ago on a naval forum only came up with the names of 2 Japanese oil tankers in ballast,I think its one thing to survive the hit but another to actually reach port.

@elswick1542 14 жыл бұрын

In a practice shoot in the Med about 1938 Hood and Warspite fired against 2 targets towed at 20k by cruisers,Warspite hit second salvo,destroyed the first and hit with every subsequent salvo,the ship and crew were absolutely amazing.

@bokya103 15 жыл бұрын

This Ship...is my favourite..and i wont forget..

@JBC814 14 жыл бұрын

@kennnmoran : You are probably right about differences in damages, but the larger the shell the greater the range. So the Yamato could blow our ships out of the water before we could begin firing. Our New Mexico and Tennessee class battleships had (12) 14" main batteries. Quite an awesome broadside, and the same layout was slated for the Montana class (16"), but were never built.

@fairclought7 15 жыл бұрын

its a shame it can only be a dream, i have been to see HMS Belfast 6 times and of course to the imperial war museum mainly to see the MK1 15" 42 cal cannons outside, i have also been to visit jodrell bank to see the telescope as the main bearings used on it were from the HMS Royal Sovereign and HMS Revenge, they were taken from the 15" gun turrets when they were being broken up.

@elswick1542 14 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the great comment,will get around to the mighty Valiant soon and the rest of the Queen Elizabeth class the greatest of all battleships.

@64LI0479 14 жыл бұрын

Warspite has an incredible war record that range from battle of Jutlan of wwi, to Normandy. It is a shame that she was not preserved....

@elswick1542 15 жыл бұрын

Great post, over the ships years of service it seemed to have a mind of its own on a number of occasions,it also was the only surviving British Dreadnought that never saw a scrap yard.

@elswick1542 15 жыл бұрын

didn't know about the radio telescope thanks for the info,the light cruiser Caroline will probably be preserved and restored by 2011,same generation as Warspite only ship afloat that fought at Jutland,but just a light cruiser.

@simonshenry 3 жыл бұрын

My grandad was on the warspite ww2 William James page As a petty officer

@fojjiwow 11 жыл бұрын

My dad was a chief petty officer on this ship at matapan and narvik

@fairclought7 15 жыл бұрын

that is true, what i would give to be able to just see the Warspite let alone walk her hallowed decks. she wasn't the biggest or the fastest but she was the best. she served her country and commonwealth well, never wavering always ready to stand against the night never afraid to fight. she represented the best of us what made Britain great.

@elswick1542 12 жыл бұрын

@Morgteck Scottish folk group called Wolfstone.Track is called brave foot soldiers.

@derekinamerica 15 жыл бұрын

I think the powers that be knew she should be saved but got rid of her quick because of her poor condition. One engine room full of concrete, 1 prop shaft blown off and one turret out of action. My Dad who was in North Africa always talked about Warspite She was a national Hero

@TheNazgarth 14 жыл бұрын

At the battle of Calabria, 9 july 1940 she hit the Italian flagship Guilio Cesare, at a range of 21.5 km. A record not matched on a moving target to this day. Quite amazing considering she was built in 1913.

@elswick1542 15 жыл бұрын

I think in the 80,s the Iowa ammunition was modified by coating the charges with a polymer and modified the driving bands on the shell an additive was added to the propellent this IIR increased the barrel life to over 800 shots full charge.

@elswick1542 15 жыл бұрын

Yes a real legend.

@elswick1542 15 жыл бұрын

Thank you,Texas is my fav USN ship from about the same era will visit on of these days.

@creamofcardstv 13 жыл бұрын

Fascinating video clip! Thumbs up!

@elswick1542 15 жыл бұрын

Yes preserved with the Victory and polished to a deep shine.

@elswick1542 15 жыл бұрын

A would agree entirely that Enterprise was the greatest of history's aircraft carriers,the above post should read"greatest battleship". At Jutland W scored hits on Von der Tann,Moltke and Grosser Kurfurst,it recived 20 heavy hits and 9 of light or indeterminate size so can claim to be the 3rd heaviest hit ship to survive. If battle stars are the same as battle honours then W was awarded 11 Jutland Narvic Calabria Matapan Crete Libya North Africa Sicily Salerno Normandy Walcheren

@ToonandBBfan 15 жыл бұрын

I agree. It was almost criminal what the British did to Warspite. Scrapping her and leaving her a floating hulk at Prussia Cove. She would have made a fantastic monument

@TheNazgarth 14 жыл бұрын

Yes, I did forget to mention that the crew were excellent, using the exact same main guns that she was supplied with when built. When you think of all the more modern battleships that were built after her with all their mod-cons, better range finders, and bigger guns - It just shows you biggest isn't always best.

@kingkennyoffootbal4252 3 жыл бұрын

People say Yamato or iowa or Bismarck was the best battleship But I think we all know warspite is the one who has the crown She was the queen of the seas

@ToonandBBfan 15 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I suspect the reason was that after WW2, Britain was rather heavily into debt. Preserving an old Battleship wouldnt have been a priority. I think that whilst she was beached at Prussia Cove, pilots actually used her to help fix their position - LOL. Even in Death she still served her country. But hey, at least we still have HMS Belfast with us (the Royal Navies best cruiser). She was at North Cape and D-Day

@ancilodon 12 жыл бұрын

Of all the Royal Navy ships to scrap! It still irks me they didn't preserve one of the "fightingest" battleships in WWII. My dad has a small piece of her; the end of one of her 6" shell casings, in honour of my grandfather, David Andrews, Royal Navy (ret.) having served aboard her. Very proud indeed!

@shathriel 15 жыл бұрын

warspite took a direct hit from one which passed right through to her double bottom , one hit near the ship with a mining affect and the third hit the sea nearby. she just would not sink.

@theredraven 15 жыл бұрын

It's such an awful pity she was cut up. Alas, the broken finances of Britain at the end of the war cost many ships. Still, she will forever live on in our hearts as the "Grand Old Lady" just as William Gladstone was the "Grand Old Man".

@danielroutley2736 11 жыл бұрын

My grandad was an officer in charge of ordering fire on the ship

@johnroutley8386 4 жыл бұрын

im glad your proud of your grandad daniel

@zzirSnipzz1 12 жыл бұрын

One of the only ships to live through WW1 an 2 then scrapped what a terrible ending the Navy have alot to answer for

@JBC814 14 жыл бұрын

@jers59 : Yes, the old Tenn class was the first modern BB's the U.S. made (no casement guns). The New Mexico class was the first with the clipper-bow, and it continued on through the Colorado class. Some of the best-looking BB's ever built, especially the Tenn class with (12) 14" guns on four turrets. Shame none were kept as museums. They could have been converted into missile cruisers with the removal of the rear turrets. We will never see armored ships again due to the cost of steel today.

@ToonandBBfan 15 жыл бұрын

Warspite did incredibly well to survive the Fritz X (German glider bomb) hit. The Italian battleship Roma was sunk by one of those and Roma was a bigger and better ship than Warspite! Warspite was a legend - a True British icon

@Ah01 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, it survived one Fritz X - hit (and another very close miss) impressively, but it was then dead in the water and saved by the rest of the fleet and us navy tugs. Had the Dorniers not been intercepted from another attack, that would have been it. The modern italians battleships Roma and Italia both absorbed one Fritz x - hit and were still able to move on, albeit Roma slowed down significantly, and was more exposed beeing left behind the formatiom. It was the second hit that was fatal for Roma, but Italia (ex - Littorio) made it to Malta and internment. Warspite never got back to be a high seas fighting unit, but played important role with it`s three functional main turrets at the waters of Normandy later on.

@iroscoe 14 жыл бұрын

@JBC814 15" x42 calibre guns they were the first RN ships to have them,the guns were ordered straight from the drawing board at a time when 13'5" guns on other RN ships were still amongst the biggest out there,it was this far sighted decision along with the decision to go with oil over coal propulsion which saw the Queen Elizabeth class have such long and useful lives .

@iromellmartinez 2 жыл бұрын

Best battleship ever

@JBC814 14 жыл бұрын

@jers59 : The same is true for any of the new ships if their radar was taken out. The BB's might be limited without electronics, but they could fall back on their pre-radar technology and keep on firing. Besides, the escorts could "fill-in" with their high-tech electronics anyway.

@Morgteck 12 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@elswick1542 16 жыл бұрын

we never give up.

@elswick1542 15 жыл бұрын

Yes the scharnhorst hit Glorious at about the same range, as the rangefinders of the time had a large error factor at that range its not known which was the longest but as a lifelong Warspite fan!

@elanxx 14 жыл бұрын

Yep, definately. They should have preserved her and placed her alongside the Victory for all to see.

@elswick1542 14 жыл бұрын

@jers59 Italy were radar pioneers but the sets were stored in a shed after trials for fear of counter detection they were fitted to the Littorios to late, pictures taken after the surrender of the ships layed up in the Great Bitter Lakes show the Ariel I suspect it was quite good.French battleship Richelieu was I think fitted with Brit mid war radars in the US for Fire control IIR a US search radar was fitted think its roughly equivalent to HMS Duke of York at the North Cape battle.

@raymurphy9749 2 жыл бұрын

This video should clearly have more likes

@18895Cobra 12 жыл бұрын

There is nothing quite like the old 20th century Battleships, crying shame there are so few left :(

@elswick1542 15 жыл бұрын

it could be a Hampden but also could be a Lockheed Hudson judging the distance from the fins,but the width looks more like a hampden.

@elswick1542 16 жыл бұрын

should also add that the guns where updated to fire 6calibur ratio shells and mounts to elevate 30 degrees ,thanks for rating.

@simonshenry 7 жыл бұрын

my grandad was HMS WARSPITE william james page - Navy name Bomer petty officer

@elswick1542 15 жыл бұрын

Strange place the Falklands the Argentinians want it, the locals like it and the Penguins love it!

@shathriel 15 жыл бұрын

very nice job , missed her defending the illustrious and the battle for crete but i'm guessing there are not the pictures available ?

@elswick1542 15 жыл бұрын

Continued Warspite was also awarded 6 campaign honours. Atlantic Channel North sea Biscay Med Malta I don't know if the USN awarded these? or had an equivalent.

@haywoodbadman10 15 жыл бұрын

my great grandad worked on the warspite for over 5 years my nan found pictures of it at war which my great grandad had taken and the cat mascot on board named a.b Ginger

@elswick1542 12 жыл бұрын

@skycaprob Yes part of the 5th BB squadron with 3 of her 4 sisters,she looked very different after rebuilding.

@Nickthebassist01 13 жыл бұрын

@jimbopetrucci : this song is by wolfstone, an excellent Scottish folk rock band.

@elswick1542 16 жыл бұрын

thanks for rating cheers.

@fairclought7 15 жыл бұрын

i have had the same dream, but which replica would we build? HMS Hood, Warspite, Vanguard, Barham, Nelson, Rodney, Prince of Wales or her 4 sisters. the decision would be difficult, unless it became a reality i dont think i could decide. my love and admiration for these great ships is beyond words.

@TECHKLEC 16 жыл бұрын

Awesome machinery!

@GravesRWFiA 12 жыл бұрын

@marcontainer65 Renown class BC's had 3 double turrets. The Revenge class BB's had 4 doubles but were smaller than the Queen Elzabeths.

@user-vz9ry5iu5i 11 жыл бұрын

wie viel Zeit über dieses Schlachtschiffes, das ist erstaunlich.

@GazC 14 жыл бұрын

Had ships like Warspite been around when I joined the forces, I would have joined the Navy instead of the Army. She was 30-odd thousand tons of floating Bad-ass!!

@elswick1542 15 жыл бұрын

Have seen barrels and napkin holders from Warspite on EBAY probably genuine as the company that scraped the ship had its name on a metal plate,but some are almost sure to fake.

@k956upg 13 жыл бұрын

ill be diving the remains this year 2011. not much left but i would like to pay my respects to this ship. seems im the only diver that wants to go there to see what is about a car size lump left.

@elswick1542 15 жыл бұрын

Not sure originally had the sound track from gladiator but was removed by youtube for copyright reasons,this was a free youtube audio swap not quite long enough.

@Spider4642 14 жыл бұрын

H.M.S. Warspite is beyond reproach. Simple as that.

@shathriel 15 жыл бұрын

during WW2 warspite fought at calabria, matapan, defended the illustrious during the illustrious blitz, was at the battle of crete and ws badly damaged. she then escorted the fleet carriers during their abortive attempts to engage the japanese inthe indian ocean. she covered landings in sicily and salerno before being badly damaged again. she then covered the D-Day and walcheren landings being damaged yet again. thats just her WW2 record.

@elswick1542 11 жыл бұрын

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@elswick1542 14 жыл бұрын

@jers59 The IJN had superb night optics, long base coincidence rangefinders and good training in night fighting but they didn't have search/firecontrol radar,RPC,stable verticals,flash-less propellant,long range star shells,integrated directors or a good ballistic computer.Only German tech as far as I know were radars just about good enough for station keeping.

@elswick1542 15 жыл бұрын

A few old Bofors guns and Orlikons also a good idea a simple look in History books could have saved lives and ships.

@elswick1542 15 жыл бұрын

An other great cruiser Hms Caroline survives as the headquarters of the RNVR at Belfast its hull turbines etc are in a superb condition,its the last ship afloat that fought at Jutland,like Belfast a national treasure.