The new for 2018. Hobbywing XERUN-V10-G3-Black brushless motor range. Can it be the new class leader? The 13.5T Examined, tested and compared. Conclusions at the end.
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@Rob-vv5yn6 жыл бұрын
Thanking you for posting Nick, great info, and simple explanations, gives great value
@GrimJerr3 жыл бұрын
Building a Capra and plan to go with the Hobbywing XR10 combo G2 ESC and G3R 25.5T 2300kv Brushless
@soulbrother32992 жыл бұрын
I'm looking at the 4.5 for my losi 22s..do you think this is a good option? I run only hobbywing when all my buddies are into castle, trinity,even tp... I like to be different and stick with hobbywing . Am I making the right decision sir? Last what gearing would you recommend? Many thanks!! I followed your channel! I just realized he passed wow. RIP !!
@FreakBob8716 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your content and I respect your opinion thank you for putting this stuff out. Wondering if you have any plans on testing the Trinity Monster Max motors. They are a big hit with the off roaders over here.
@nickadams54116 жыл бұрын
Hi Jordan Trinity Monster Max is not readily available over here. I will test one, if I can. All the best. Nick
@dreamer23556 жыл бұрын
Will you be ever putting those results online so we can easily compare different brands? Ive also noticed your videos on other channels so you might want to watermark your videos.
@brentleylegend89643 жыл бұрын
i guess Im quite randomly asking but does anybody know of a good place to stream new movies online ?
@jorgemateo80393 жыл бұрын
@Brentley Legend try flixzone. Just search on google for it =)
@GrimJerr3 жыл бұрын
Just setting up my XR10 Combo, G2 ESC and V10 G3R Motor, everything hooked up and soldered and it will not calibrate, no beep from motor, rapid blinking red LED. Brand New Hobbywing XRpro and it's defective ? HELP
@theresonlyoneJB Жыл бұрын
Is this 540 size motor
@theringmaster36845 жыл бұрын
Is there any performance gains or benefits of having the motor and ESC made by the same manufacturer?
@nickadams54115 жыл бұрын
Hi. No, there is no advantage. But there is an advantage to use the best ESC and the best motor together.. Note that the LRP (Nosram) ESC do not work with some motors (due to the sensor signal strength).
@theringmaster36845 жыл бұрын
@@nickadams5411 Ok, thanks!
@HYEonDEATHROW6 жыл бұрын
Hi Nick, Im racing indoors on a short/medium very high carpet track. Using a b6.1 and was wondering what motor would work best. Your content is outstanding. Keep it up!
@nickadams54116 жыл бұрын
Hi Hye Use a motor with a strong (High gauss) rotor. Such as the Motiv MCR, The Fantom V3T, or the R1 and the good value Surpass V3 (or V4)
@kevinbates35753 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information! I have a team AE B44.2 i am running for fun. I am looking at a hobbywing xr10 legacy ESC and a Reedy sonic 7.5T motor. Do the 2 work together ok?? Is that adequate for my 4wd for a outdoor clay track ? I am running a 90c 6000mah pack
@arnoudwalrecht8479 Жыл бұрын
thank you Nick. Have you been able to compare the G4 vs this G3? doubting a purchase
@madvente Жыл бұрын
To my understanding, Mr. Adams is sadly deceased.
@BrianHodge3256 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a video comparing a motor with aluminum screws vs without.
@nickadams54116 жыл бұрын
Hi Brian Yes, I plan on doing that
@para096 жыл бұрын
Hi great video very informative those motor soldering tabs look lower or closer to the motor case than the hobbywing v10 g2 motors, is that the case.
@nickadams54116 жыл бұрын
Hi Yes, the clearance is very small. They have reduced everything to the minimum.
@jorgemarinheiro5 жыл бұрын
Hi Nick, did you had any issue with the rotor play when reassembling the motor? Mine doesn't have any play at all or it's so small that I cannot feel it... But I think when was new, out of the box it had a little bit... I didn't add any kind of shim, didn't loose any parts... Thanks! J.
@nickadams54115 жыл бұрын
Hi Jorge. I am not sure. Tap the shaft on the table, and then tap the other end on the table. It sometimes seats the bearings etc, and gives a little play.
@jorgemarinheiro5 жыл бұрын
@@nickadams5411 I'll try that again I guess... But I think the same happened on your review. If you have the time, check from 17:30 to 18:00. :) Thanks!
@mracer115 жыл бұрын
Nick, had a conversation with a on road team driver, on the 21.5 said I could gear with temps being higher than what I'm used to, 175*F, this would be about 25* warmer than what I run currently? What do you think? Thanks for the video!
@nickadams54115 жыл бұрын
Hi. 175F (80 deg C) is as high as you want to go . Any higher and the motor will fade during the race. You also risk burning the coils if you go any hotter. 21.5T motors run hot since they have more resistance in the windings than lower turns (17.5T etc). Use the best fan to cool the motor.
@mracer115 жыл бұрын
@@nickadams5411 Thank you Nick, and Happy New Year!
@jrmayun5 жыл бұрын
Hey Nick, is the end bell bearing replaceable? Seems like it will fit the sensor board hole.
@nickadams54115 жыл бұрын
The enbell bearing is replaceable in most motors, but may require some force to drift them out from the housings. Note that the Hobbywing motors use a special smaller diameter bearing.
@jrmayun5 жыл бұрын
@@nickadams5411 thank you. The g2 motors were a nightmare to do with the sensor board in the way.
@irvine406 жыл бұрын
Does the purchasing of all these motors & Batteries come out of your own pocket? If so it’s a lot of money!
@nickadams54116 жыл бұрын
Hi I do have to buy them, as no one has ever given me any. Mostly I am able to sell them on to racers.
@irvine406 жыл бұрын
Nick Adams Ok. I am planning on racing 1/10 TC indoors this Autumn, the Reedy motor looks good, what motor would you recommend for racing indoors 1/0 touring car
@nickadams54116 жыл бұрын
Hi Indoors, I recommend a normal reving, but high strength rotor. Such as Motiv, Fantom or the latest R1 The reedy is very revy and hard to gear indoors.
@irvine406 жыл бұрын
Nick Adams thanks for the advice😀 forgot to mention I will be racing 13.5 Blinky if that makes a difference
@manuel391646 жыл бұрын
Is The hobbywing The best Motor in 13.5turn class
@nickadams54116 жыл бұрын
Hi It has only just been released, so need to see it on the track. It may be very good on fast outdoor tracks.
@manuel391646 жыл бұрын
Nick Adams ok thx from Austria
@cowpker4life3336 жыл бұрын
how does a 13.5t motor compare to a 4850kv motor?
@nickadams54116 жыл бұрын
Hi Cow Poker The 4850kv will be much more powerful , as it achieves that rating at a lower advance timing. A 13.5T can only exceed 4000kv by high advance timing (50degree) which is critical on gearing, and causes more heat loss.
@billydje16 жыл бұрын
hi nick great job.i just bought a skyrc motor analyzer for my 10.5.how many amps is best for working on 10.5 in blinky mode ? you often speak with 17.5 or 13.5 .. thanks billy
@nickadams54116 жыл бұрын
Hi Billy I recommend about 6 amps for all winds (Except 21.5T) as it is the wasted power, as heat in the motor. Also as you advance past this point, the amps increase rapidly, for a very small increase in advance timing. You can set the amps a little higher (Up to 7.5A) if you have a very fast or long straight track. But watch the motor temp (no higher than in the 70s C) after the run.
@Ninja1000.6 жыл бұрын
Nick Adams, im also going to try and set the timing for max performance on a 10.5 using the motor analyser. Do i just set timing with an amp draw of 6A or should i also consider the KV and revs? Also, why dont all manufacturers just set the timing to a 6A draw when building if that is the sweet spot? Thanks Si
@nickadams54116 жыл бұрын
Hi Si The 6amp setting is for "Blinky" (Zero ESC timing) so that the motor performs at maximum without overheating. When using ESC with Boost and Turbo features, the motor timing is set lower at about 30 to 40 degrees. The manufactures normally set to the lower timing so that the motor is not damaged when the customer connects a turbo boosted ESC.
@Ninja1000.6 жыл бұрын
Nick Adams thanks for the clarification.
@tmdario6 жыл бұрын
thanks for your videos, very informative and useful for a noob like me. actually, I'm looking for ESC + 13.5 motor for my very first racing 4wd buggy 4wd (EB410), which motor+esc do you recommend in your experience. ? can you share you specs table? gracias!
@nickadams54116 жыл бұрын
Hi Dario Email me for the table: nick@demonproducts.co.uk I recommend the Surpass V3 Rocket 13.5T. Very good motor for low price. There are many speed controls. Do not go too cheap. Hobbywing XR10 Just Stock 80A is very good.
@artcullen69536 жыл бұрын
Hi there. I'm new to the hobby and won a new t6.1 stadium truck. What would be the best motor and electronics to keep up with the rest of the guys racing.
@nickadams54116 жыл бұрын
Hi Art A good win. The other guys. What class do they run? The motor could be 17.5T or down to 6.5T. You need to find out. 17.5T and 13.5T I recommend the R1. 6.5T , any make will have more than enough power.
@artcullen69536 жыл бұрын
Nick Adams. Thanks for getting back to me. The class is 1/10 scale c class or beginner level for now. I'd like to get good enough to get into intermediate level. 1 of the guys I was talking to runs a hobbywing 10.5t.
@nickadams54116 жыл бұрын
Hi Art Most of the new 10.5T motors should be okay. Check the temperature of the motor after a run. If it is too hot to touch, then adjust gearing, or fit a cooling fan for the motor, if there is room.
@artcullen69536 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. What would give me the best acceleration and speed though. In your opinion.
@devonrccrawlers21416 жыл бұрын
Nice video. what is best for drifting. I drive on all hard suffices and have tires to match. I correctly have brushed motors but want to go brushless whats recommended. Thanks
@nickadams54116 жыл бұрын
Hi Drifting , needs a contollable motor and speedo combination, for smooth throttle control. These highy tuned, high speed motors are prbably too much. Look out for drift package, which will have a suitable motor.
@devonrccrawlers21416 жыл бұрын
Ok im really struggleing to deside on a motor would you have any idea on what to get. They tent to run 10.5T motors to keep heat down
@nickadams54116 жыл бұрын
Hi You are right, they seem to run motors that are very powerful. Check this one out: www.racing-cars.com/pp/Product_Category/Full_List/SP000196.html
@devonrccrawlers21416 жыл бұрын
Thanks i think i will go for this one its what iv been looking for iv not found nothing like it. I run a hobbywing gear in some of my trucks do you think it would go nice with this motor?
@nickadams54116 жыл бұрын
Yes, Hobbywing speedos have a lot of settings.
@michaelfrench95976 жыл бұрын
can y do a test on the Maclan 17.5 v2 motor and with the op. rotors
@nickadams54116 жыл бұрын
Hi Michael I will try and get the Maclan
@gswart446 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great review Nick! Any chance you would consider doing a review on the Maclan MRR Team Edition V2 (17.5)?
@nickadams54116 жыл бұрын
Hi Garrett I would like to do the Maclan. I just have to buy one.
@EggplantVolcano6 жыл бұрын
Do you know the bearing sizes in the G3?
@nickadams54116 жыл бұрын
The front bearing is same as most other motors with 1/8th hole. But the rear bearing has a 3mm hole. I have not taken it out, so not sure of outer diameter.
@manuel391646 жыл бұрын
What is The best Motor 13.5t for Touring Cars Asphalt
@nickadams54116 жыл бұрын
Hi Manuel The R1, MuchMore and Hobbywing all deliver on fast asphalt tracks. The R1 is probably the easier to use. The Hobbywing has more revs.
@Capturing-Memories6 жыл бұрын
Are those good for tape transport belt driven capstan ?
@nickadams54116 жыл бұрын
No, much too big.
@Capturing-Memories6 жыл бұрын
I meant for RCA tape cartridge or small reel to reel machine. Is the speed very stable for audio applications?
@nickadams54116 жыл бұрын
Hi james No, they are much too big. Also a normal 2 pole Dc motor is used in most tape players.
@Capturing-Memories6 жыл бұрын
Nick Adams The actual AC motor on my tape deck is 4 times bigger and runs at 120V mains, it’s getting slow and I want to replace it with a DC one I just want to know if its speed is stable for such application if used with a control board.
@nickadams54116 жыл бұрын
Hi James These motors are not smooth at low rpm, as they are are normally used in the 20 to 30000rpm range. However they do have a lot of torque. Normal voltage is between 7 and 12 volts The amp draw will depend upon the static timing set on the endbell, but will be at least 2 amps. the shaft is 1/8th. There are larger versions with larger shafts. Brushless motors used in record players tend to be multiple pole, for smooth pusing, and the flywheel will also smooth out the movement. I am not sure how easy it would be to maintain a constant speed even with feedback. As they have 3 coils, you will need an appropriate speed control, such as used in radio control models etc. All the best. Nick
@awastyle91985 жыл бұрын
Better g2 bandit or this g3 xerun??
@nickadams54115 жыл бұрын
The G3R due out August 2019 will be the best motor.
@awastyle91985 жыл бұрын
Thanks, how much degrees you suggest and shims on it? (17.5)
@nickadams54115 жыл бұрын
@@awastyle9198 The Hobbywing G3 set about 50 degrees on the endbell for blinky. The end float shim should be okay with a small movement.
@jairoluna98226 жыл бұрын
nick how you ever try a hb bandit 17.5 motor
@nickadams54116 жыл бұрын
Hi jairo The HB Bandit or the Hobbywing Bandit.? No, as the newer Xerun V10 G3 is far superior.
@jairoluna98226 жыл бұрын
hello nick yes is the Hobbywing Bandit outlaw i know that the g3 hobbywing is superior to g2 spec but i dont if is superior to bandit outlaw
@nickadams54116 жыл бұрын
Hi I have tested outlaw motors , but they are always very powerful (superior) and cannot be compared to the legal versions. The whole point of Legal homologated motors is that they are supposed to be the same performance, so that racing is fair. Outlaw motors are the same as Modified Open class motors where the performance is not limited by the motors.
@jairoluna98226 жыл бұрын
thank nick well i ask you because we run outlaw motor that because we dont have the logistic to check all the cars so to be simples people can run wherever motor the want the only rule is to be not lower that a 10.5
@user-kw4ig9qv7e4 жыл бұрын
It is a 540?
@nickadams54114 жыл бұрын
Hi . Yes it is a 540 size.
@ikariku6 жыл бұрын
only left the dyno test ;-)
@robertoborg56185 жыл бұрын
Which is the best 10.5 motor
@nickadams54115 жыл бұрын
Hi Robert. There are many good 10.5T motors. But depending what is available in your Country, the R1 , Motiv, or Surpass. But there are many others especially if you using ESC boost.
@robertoborg56185 жыл бұрын
Hi my friend , here we use in stock class with a blinky esc and 10.5 motor , please can you advise me on which is the best esc and 10.5 turn motor on blinky mode
@nickadams54115 жыл бұрын
@@robertoborg5618 Hi, The Hobbywing XR10 160A ESC is the best, the motors - there are many, but get one with good torque, such as R1, Surpass, Motiv. Race on, nick
@robertoborg56185 жыл бұрын
@@nickadams5411 please can you send the model number of 10.5 R1 to try to find one from here but the R1 is in the regulations of the BRCA
@nickadams54115 жыл бұрын
Hi Robert. You are right, there is no R1 10.5T. Try the zombie or Surpass.