Hobie kayak cart modification with a Compass, no lifting, no flipping the kayak

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John Nguyen

John Nguyen

6 жыл бұрын

Installation and removal of a modified Hobie scupper cart while on the water without needing to turn or flip the kayak.
Instructional video on how to make the pvc handle yourself. diy:
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@AegeanEpiphany
@AegeanEpiphany 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing that Hobie can invent something like 'Mirage Drive' but leave us all out in the cold when to comes to solo launching. Great workaround in this vid...!!
@JohnNguyen4
@JohnNguyen4 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@nikushim6665
@nikushim6665 Жыл бұрын
Thing is Hobart Alter created the mirage drive and he retired a long time ago (he also passed away in 2014). His family / company has just been milking the patents for every cent they can before they expire (Whole reason they put out passport line was to compete with all the clones after the original patent expired). bonafide and Boone Dox make far better solutions then Hobies extremely overpriced scupper carts (also seen plenty of PA hulls fail because of carts cracking the scuppers).
@jamesbruce6931
@jamesbruce6931 Жыл бұрын
This is the best solution I've seen. However, now I just leave the wheels on most of the time. Unless you have to pedal a long way to the fishing grounds, just leaving the wheels on is best.
@ERone43
@ERone43 Ай бұрын
Lotta steps but beats cold hands. Nice idea nice vid
@thomassodomizer764
@thomassodomizer764 5 жыл бұрын
You should get a patent for this.
@sonomian
@sonomian 5 жыл бұрын
I've been struggle launching my Hobie Compass by tilting and losing my fishing gear etc. Thanks for sharing your info
@alemayehufenta6981
@alemayehufenta6981 2 жыл бұрын
Smart way of solving the whole issue of kayak wheels.
@robutzinger2749
@robutzinger2749 5 жыл бұрын
John, thanks so much. I’ve hurt my back wrapping around my hobie to extricate my cart in the water. Now I can just do it from the top. It will be a back saver. Nice job.
@JohnNguyen4
@JohnNguyen4 5 жыл бұрын
Glad to be able to help my fellow kayakers
@dixee6498
@dixee6498 5 жыл бұрын
That was awesome! Now to just lose enough weight to be able to turn around in the seat without making a big splash! 🤠
@jeffcarr2265
@jeffcarr2265 Жыл бұрын
Or install pontoons
@johns311
@johns311 5 жыл бұрын
What a great idea! I have to try this on my Compass. Thanks for sharing!
@marcuspascual4335
@marcuspascual4335 5 жыл бұрын
Just did this for my Compass and just want to point out some things: 1. The clearance on the sides is very tight. I butane torched a post on the cart to soften it and bent it a little out to give me a little more clearance. Be careful not bend it too much the tolerances are actually quite tight to be able to fit in the scupper hole. 2. It will be easier if you glue the t-handle so that its oriented 90 degrees to the wheels. 3. When putting the cart back into scupper hole when its time to go home, sometimes the post will get stuck against the plastic lip inside, simply grab the metal post of the cart itself and pull up. Thanks John for sharing, say good bye to cart flipping!
@JohnNguyen4
@JohnNguyen4 5 жыл бұрын
Great tips! Are you on the Facebook owners group? You should share it there if you are.
@thomashicks7164
@thomashicks7164 2 жыл бұрын
I have to give you a giant pat on the back..... I knew there must be a way..... Very ingenious.... Way to go and thank you for sharing....
@JohnNguyen4
@JohnNguyen4 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I didn't want to flip the kayak or get into the water for installation. Came from the boondox landing gear and I figured there had to be a better way with the hobie cart
@rickhall6171
@rickhall6171 3 ай бұрын
That’s gotta be in the top 5 most Genius, simplest, easiest kayak mods I’ve seen on the internet! Two thumbs up! 👍🏻👍🏻
@JohnNguyen4
@JohnNguyen4 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Rick!
@himderfella
@himderfella 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant innovation. I regret not buying a scupper hole trolley. I have seen a KZfaq video of a Lake Macquarie NSW Australia kayaker (Paul Farrell) who uses bungee (stretch) cords to pull his trolley into position. A great assist to users of scupper type kayak trolleys.
@johnstoker1944
@johnstoker1944 5 жыл бұрын
You smart bastard, you! How fucking clever is that! Well executed!!
@jm77chung
@jm77chung 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!! I made it! Actually bottom part of pvc pipe was broken on the first try. I replaced bottom part with metal pipe and it works well!!!
@fredaw61
@fredaw61 5 жыл бұрын
That was an ingenious idea.
@Tohoku09
@Tohoku09 5 жыл бұрын
This is awesome, thanks for sharing!!!
@rickt1951
@rickt1951 2 жыл бұрын
WoW!!!!!!!!!!! One of the best mods ever.
@wkillam
@wkillam 2 жыл бұрын
Now that really is brilliant! Nice job!
@jerrykrobby
@jerrykrobby 4 жыл бұрын
Solid work sir!
@FWJCgen128
@FWJCgen128 3 жыл бұрын
I just bought a 2020 hobie outback and on a recent trip struggled to not lose my gear. This is such a great idea and having the same cart, I will definitely need to try this. You should consider making and selling the pvc portion so the masses will only have to do the drilling.
@JohnNguyen4
@JohnNguyen4 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. It doesn't fit on your 19 and newer outbacks because of the increased width. Good luck with finding a solution for your yak!
@Phalanx6433
@Phalanx6433 4 ай бұрын
This is absolutley genius, well done mate!
@JohnNguyen4
@JohnNguyen4 4 ай бұрын
Thanks! Still works for me.
@thenarstraveler
@thenarstraveler 3 жыл бұрын
Genius! Thanks for sharing!
@kenflyergc
@kenflyergc Жыл бұрын
I agree with one of the early posts.....seems Hobie could develop something similar....again thanks dor the tip.... I will get to work on one ....
@JohnNguyen4
@JohnNguyen4 Жыл бұрын
They would probably sell it for $99 or more. It's also limited to the narrower range of their kayaks. Compass and smaller. The current generation outback and PAs are too wide for this, which I assume is where most of their sales are. Good luck with the build.
@maureengaherty677
@maureengaherty677 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing! You definitely need to patent...I'll buy one for sure!
@mibunsu3528
@mibunsu3528 5 жыл бұрын
how genius !! great!
@maryfield6920
@maryfield6920 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! What a great idea!
@pitviprplays9794
@pitviprplays9794 3 жыл бұрын
ingenuity at its finest!
@getoffyourbassandletsfish7651
@getoffyourbassandletsfish7651 5 жыл бұрын
Award worthy 🏆
@myboyz02
@myboyz02 3 жыл бұрын
Genius. Absolutely genius.
@bradmakovy9892
@bradmakovy9892 5 жыл бұрын
Really cool idea
@wayneworley2782
@wayneworley2782 2 жыл бұрын
That’s ingenious!!!
@FLEITASG
@FLEITASG 4 жыл бұрын
Es sorprendente.. ¡¡¡¡¡¡ Eres el único, el primero, muchas gracias amigo. Lo haré
@alexmanson1762
@alexmanson1762 5 жыл бұрын
Your a genius. You just saved me $261. Thank you for sharing.
@LifeBehindBars_2017
@LifeBehindBars_2017 4 жыл бұрын
what were you going to spend the $261 on?
@rubengonzalez8399
@rubengonzalez8399 3 жыл бұрын
LaMadrid81 maybe Boondox landing gear, my guess
@claudiofrotta1280
@claudiofrotta1280 5 жыл бұрын
Congratulation! Very good!
@kernlkajun1
@kernlkajun1 3 жыл бұрын
This is great, can’t see it working on a PA14 due to the width but will check it out. Thanks.
@cmillie9044
@cmillie9044 3 жыл бұрын
This video should have blown up!
@terridrimel1056
@terridrimel1056 4 жыл бұрын
Clever idea!
@ShazBookOwl
@ShazBookOwl 3 жыл бұрын
That is awesome!!! You should have more subscribers - I'm subbed and binge watching. :-D
@saychow03
@saychow03 3 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks for sharing! Does this work on a 2020 outback?
@toddwaters913
@toddwaters913 5 жыл бұрын
It seems like the ends of the poles scrape the sides and bottom of the kayak. Is that electric tape you put on them?
@Jorgerodriguez-pe1wf
@Jorgerodriguez-pe1wf 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome idea
@MrFlamingawesome
@MrFlamingawesome 5 жыл бұрын
Crap that's genius! Dont mind me stealing your idea ;)
@Oscar-ee6su
@Oscar-ee6su 5 жыл бұрын
Your brilliant thank you
@trairasaventuras9920
@trairasaventuras9920 2 жыл бұрын
Very good. 👍🏻
@MarkoAbo
@MarkoAbo 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome idea! But with those stupid big blow up tires it's virtually impossible.
@himderfella
@himderfella 3 жыл бұрын
Try this kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o7mlfpiknbSRc3U.html
@missiletm
@missiletm 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, not possible with the beach cart.
@jeffreycarter3066
@jeffreycarter3066 25 күн бұрын
Yeah, I have those too. It would be impossible
@rogerford8281
@rogerford8281 5 жыл бұрын
Sweet! Great mod!
@rogerford8281
@rogerford8281 5 жыл бұрын
I'd also like to know what exactly that clip is called. Can't seem to find it!
@dirtybayfishing
@dirtybayfishing 4 жыл бұрын
Got a link for the clip?
@paulnewell3509
@paulnewell3509 2 жыл бұрын
Well dang, look at the big brain on this guy.
@davidcarvalho3663
@davidcarvalho3663 Жыл бұрын
saved the marketing guys at Hobe some work!! i’m sure this accessory will be available for a mere $250 soon! 😝
@jeffcarr2265
@jeffcarr2265 Жыл бұрын
Nice , I like it
@keithcoleman6005
@keithcoleman6005 5 жыл бұрын
How did you remove the end cap on the pole with the bungee cord? On the standard cart that side is like a glued in plastic and I can't get it out with a flat head screwdriver like the other side that just pops out easy.
@JohnNguyen4
@JohnNguyen4 5 жыл бұрын
You're right, it's hard to remove. I ended up destroying that cap. Used a flat head screwdriver and a hammer. Try a heat gun first?
@seanhung14982
@seanhung14982 4 жыл бұрын
Hey John, this looks great. I noticed you added something on the cart where the original Hobie "caps" were removed. Did you use some kind of tape?
@anonimous596
@anonimous596 2 жыл бұрын
those clips on amazon are no longer listed, I wonder if you could just use a pool clip? the ones that go on skimmers etc. - gonna try this pretty soon to cold in the winter to wade out to my knees to get that stupid cart under there -- great idea!
@AD-ny3gv
@AD-ny3gv 4 жыл бұрын
Hi John. I'm looking to make one of these rods/poles for my hobie cart. How long are the two 1/2 inch PVC pipes you connected with the coupling? and where did you track down the button clip that pinches into the cart? Having trouble searching for it. Thanks!
@JohnNguyen4
@JohnNguyen4 4 жыл бұрын
Email me johnzsta@gmail.com and I'll send you the details and directions.
@timmoore6055
@timmoore6055 3 жыл бұрын
If you are not an engineer, perhaps you should consider that as a career - or career change! Ingenious!
@JohnNguyen4
@JohnNguyen4 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@dimplezdimples8451
@dimplezdimples8451 6 жыл бұрын
Love it Love it! I have seen versions where they add weight to the cart so you don't fight the buoyancy. I love the T handle idea to be able to rotate the cart. Where do you find that little spring loaded gizmo ?
@JohnNguyen4
@JohnNguyen4 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Search 6mm paddle spring snap button clip on eBay or amazon
@pitchkapizda8355
@pitchkapizda8355 2 жыл бұрын
Genius 👍🏼
@chriskwan1621
@chriskwan1621 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@cliff6490
@cliff6490 4 жыл бұрын
I like the concept anyway to adapt to a pro angler hobie because of it being wider any thoughts? Thx great idea
@JohnNguyen4
@JohnNguyen4 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah pro angler is too wide. 2019+ Outbacks are too wide also.
@toddwaters913
@toddwaters913 5 жыл бұрын
I got most of it done weirdly I can only do your technique from the left side of the kayak. The right side scupper is off center or something and the cart goes in at an improper angle. Cart goes in fine normally though.
@JohnNguyen4
@JohnNguyen4 5 жыл бұрын
Try it again while you're on the water. The buoyancy of the tires may help in aiming the post to that scupper. Dry testing will only go so far because the weight of the tires changes the straightness of the PVC+post. Hope you understand what I'm trying to say.
@toddwaters913
@toddwaters913 5 жыл бұрын
How did you make sure you drilled the holes into the metal at the correct height on the other pole?
@JohnNguyen4
@JohnNguyen4 5 жыл бұрын
It doesn't have to be exact. I think I measured from the top of the post to the center of the existing hole. Then marked the same length on the other post
@marcuspascual4335
@marcuspascual4335 5 жыл бұрын
can you provide the length for the section of pvc from the bottom end to the coupler and from the bottom of the top pvc to the t-handle?
@JohnNguyen4
@JohnNguyen4 5 жыл бұрын
Sure Marcus, bottom to coupler length is 8.25 inches, coupler to tee is 15 inches. This is taking into consideration the 1/2 inch needed to glue pipe to the coupler and tee.
@wangng1997
@wangng1997 4 жыл бұрын
great idea ,
@mattpurvis9441
@mattpurvis9441 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to know the lengths of pvc you used to assemble this tool! Great work.
@JohnNguyen4
@JohnNguyen4 3 жыл бұрын
I made a follow up video showing each step in making the handle. It's slightly better then what I used in this old video. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bMmqlNiYnqnRcWQ.html
@derekbushnell1309
@derekbushnell1309 5 жыл бұрын
Wow. Great idea. Wonder if it would work on a Outback
@JohnNguyen4
@JohnNguyen4 5 жыл бұрын
I haven't heard of anyone doing it on an outback, but I'd be interested to know if it fits as well
@frappy815
@frappy815 3 жыл бұрын
@@JohnNguyen4 this does not work on a 2019 through 21 outback. i just tested my HD cart to see if it would fit in the scupper hole and outside the kayak and the outback is too wide for cart. great idea tho and was going to do this for my outback. Josh Bister
@missiletm
@missiletm 2 жыл бұрын
Genius!
@joeep46
@joeep46 6 ай бұрын
Nice!
@alangonyea3841
@alangonyea3841 Жыл бұрын
INGENIOUS! great job with this idea! where did you get the little pin to connect the handle to the cart and how did you attach it to the pvc? Did you glue it to the inside of the pvc pipe? 👍
@JohnNguyen4
@JohnNguyen4 Жыл бұрын
If you search "push button spring clip" on Amazon, there are plenty of options. 6mm is close enough to fit the 1/4 inch holes of the Hobie cart. I have another video on how to make the handle kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bMmqlNiYnqnRcWQ.html
@budgetoutdoorsman7336
@budgetoutdoorsman7336 5 жыл бұрын
Proto type! Make a molded one and Patent it
@tontobb8956
@tontobb8956 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant
@jwalker497
@jwalker497 9 ай бұрын
just tried this with a hobie lynx and the lynx is too tight unfortunately
@williamcharleson2051
@williamcharleson2051 3 жыл бұрын
Great idea hobie should hire you.theg pay thefe engineers millions and you spent 2 bucks awesome man
@toddwaters913
@toddwaters913 5 жыл бұрын
Can you link the exact paddle spring snaps you used? The ones I got aren't tall enough and slip out of the cart holes when I pull up.
@JohnNguyen4
@JohnNguyen4 5 жыл бұрын
8 Clips 6mm - Kayak Paddle Spring... www.amazon.com/dp/B016A8DSGI?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf
@toddwaters913
@toddwaters913 5 жыл бұрын
Those are exactly what I got, weird.
@JohnNguyen4
@JohnNguyen4 5 жыл бұрын
@@toddwaters913 try bending the end of the snap where the peg is so that it protrudes out of the pvc more
@colonialjim9154
@colonialjim9154 4 жыл бұрын
Patent that now! 👍🏻
@alecslifer3577
@alecslifer3577 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Love the Compass! What rods holders do you use? I like the way you got yours set up!
@JohnNguyen4
@JohnNguyen4 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Alec. First I extended the flush mount rod holders with two 18 inch lengths of 1 1/2 PVC pipe. Use a heat gun to soften the pipe to make it fit. Then I added gear tracks to both sides of the tank well to hold the Railblaza rod holders. a.co/d/9aQZbN6
@fishingwithmg
@fishingwithmg 5 жыл бұрын
This is genius! Is there a way you can email me the parts list if possible? I wanna try this out on my hobie outback and I fish a lot alone and getting the kayak on the cart on the water is easy, but trying to get the cart under the boat without tilting it with full gear is darn near impossible unless I have someone else helping me out. I'd greatly appreciate it!
@JohnNguyen4
@JohnNguyen4 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Mark, what's your email? I see you have a pre 2019 outback. Make sure you can fit the Hobie cart with one post in the scupper and one on the side before you start modding. I know the 2019s are too wide for this method.
@fishingwithmg
@fishingwithmg 5 жыл бұрын
@@JohnNguyen4 thanks brother! And yes when I saw this video after I bought my 2018 outback i measured the width of scupper to the cart and it fits between the space. Its fishingwithmg@gmail.com and I very much appreciate you sending over the specs!
@FoxtrotGear
@FoxtrotGear 2 жыл бұрын
Any changes in this design? I did the bungee hack but my wife needs help lifting the Compass to get the cart out. I really like this idea.
@JohnNguyen4
@JohnNguyen4 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't changed it much. Instead of using a coupler and gluing two pieces of PVC together, I kept it long and added a stop collar instead. You can see it in this video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bMmqlNiYnqnRcWQ.html
@blazin808rootz
@blazin808rootz 5 ай бұрын
Nice
@garyrussell7750
@garyrussell7750 3 жыл бұрын
Just a thought, but, couldn't you have cut just the pvc pipe and used the whole coupling instead of cutting the it? I just made mine from your excellent mod directions but didnt cut the coupler, instead opting to cut the pipe and cement them into the coupling. I forgot the foam for flotation, so Ill try the expanding foam i used in the Watersnake trolling motor mod. Thanks for the great mod and also on the excellent instructions on the Watersnake mod! Cant wait to hit the lakes here in E Tenn soon as my boat registration papers are processed. I also used your KMart mod for the battery carry case. You Da Man.
@JohnNguyen4
@JohnNguyen4 3 жыл бұрын
You definitely could cut the pipe and use the entire coupler. I did that on my 1st version and had no issues. Only reason why I showed this way was because it was just one less connection.
@markjungdahl3054
@markjungdahl3054 4 жыл бұрын
How does the Hobie cart not fall out when you unclip the handle to move it? Does the Hobie cart float?
@JohnNguyen4
@JohnNguyen4 4 жыл бұрын
Yes the wheels are buoyant so it forces the posts upward. If you lose it, it will float around for you to retrieve.
@markjungdahl3054
@markjungdahl3054 4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnNguyen4 Oh Man, I didn't know that. This is awesome.
@pingpong808
@pingpong808 5 жыл бұрын
Genius!! Thanks for the great idea! I wonder if it would also work with the sand tires. I figure they're much more buoyant than the regular tires, especially the large sand tires. Is it hard to fight the buoyancy of the tires of your cart?
@JohnNguyen4
@JohnNguyen4 5 жыл бұрын
It isn't that difficult with the HD tires unless there is a very strong current. Those balloon tires may be pretty difficult to submerge, not sure I'd try it with this method. Good luck if you do. Maybe use aluminum pipe instead of pvc.
@yakzen4120
@yakzen4120 5 жыл бұрын
John Nguyen I suspect you are correct. I have the Fold & Stow and I can’t believe how buoyant they are.
@tklein03
@tklein03 4 жыл бұрын
Will this work on the 2019 or 2020 compass?
@JohnNguyen4
@JohnNguyen4 4 жыл бұрын
I don't see why it shouldn't fit. The hull design hasn't changed at all.
@frappy815
@frappy815 3 жыл бұрын
great idea. wont work on a 2019 or newer Outback! Kayak is too wide for cart to fit in scupper hole and outside of kayak. i was wishing it would work. josh Bister
@darrenm9597
@darrenm9597 4 жыл бұрын
That's clever
@Victoria-ol8qj
@Victoria-ol8qj 4 жыл бұрын
Great
@noahsheehan6295
@noahsheehan6295 5 жыл бұрын
Do you have a detailed parts list? Sizes of PVC. Clip etc
@JohnNguyen4
@JohnNguyen4 5 жыл бұрын
I'm out of town right now, but I can give you the parts list and measurements when I get back. we
@noahsheehan6295
@noahsheehan6295 5 жыл бұрын
@@JohnNguyen4 sounds good thanks.
@JohnNguyen4
@JohnNguyen4 5 жыл бұрын
@@noahsheehan6295 Noah, what's your email?
@jeffreycarter3066
@jeffreycarter3066 25 күн бұрын
Can the same be done with the beach wheels?
@JohnNguyen4
@JohnNguyen4 25 күн бұрын
@@jeffreycarter3066 I've never tried it myself, but it would probably be too buoyant and hard to push underwater.
@LifeBehindBars_2017
@LifeBehindBars_2017 4 жыл бұрын
this is the best cart mod ive seen so far. how well does it work for beaches? also, have you got a video on how you made the tool?
@JohnNguyen4
@JohnNguyen4 4 жыл бұрын
The Hobie wheels shown here won't work well on the beach. The balloon tires will. I may upload a video on how to make the handle and also how to install it in a few weeks
@LifeBehindBars_2017
@LifeBehindBars_2017 4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnNguyen4 oh no i meant, does it work well when you come back in on a beach. i assume you'd have to do it while its still deep before you beach yourself
@JohnNguyen4
@JohnNguyen4 4 жыл бұрын
@@LifeBehindBars_2017 I wouldn't recommend it . The kayak moves up and down in the surf too much and the cart could damage the underside of the kayak.
@HussainKovic
@HussainKovic 4 жыл бұрын
Did this work with hobie big tires cart ?
@JohnNguyen4
@JohnNguyen4 4 жыл бұрын
It may not work because the big sand tires are too buoyant and would bend the PVC to a point where you can't align to tubes to the scuppers.
@instantjizz
@instantjizz Ай бұрын
Where do you get that detent clip thing
@JohnNguyen4
@JohnNguyen4 Ай бұрын
Search for 6mm paddle spring clip stainless steel on Amazon a.co/d/67D9qEe
@instantjizz
@instantjizz Ай бұрын
@@JohnNguyen4 thank you
@augustinbergher9049
@augustinbergher9049 2 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@caiaqueirojs.6626
@caiaqueirojs.6626 4 жыл бұрын
Like garantido
@martins.7175
@martins.7175 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately this doesn’t work wheel with the sand wheelez because of the buoyancy
@krexiiroxx5573
@krexiiroxx5573 5 жыл бұрын
Wow
@alexmanson1762
@alexmanson1762 5 жыл бұрын
I forgot to mention...I hope this works on the 2017 PA 14
@Ilogrich
@Ilogrich 4 жыл бұрын
How much you selling these for? LOL.
@krexiiroxx5573
@krexiiroxx5573 5 жыл бұрын
What kind of clip is that?
@JohnNguyen4
@JohnNguyen4 5 жыл бұрын
8 Clips 6mm - Kayak Paddle Spring... www.amazon.com/dp/B016A8DSGI?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
@krexiiroxx5573
@krexiiroxx5573 5 жыл бұрын
John Nguyen thank you and great little thing you came up with
@tgardner866
@tgardner866 3 жыл бұрын
For all of the "innovation" that Hobie boasts about, they cant do a better job with the damn cart? That is literally the only glaring flaw with it. Great job with this modification. Terrible job by Hobie.
@edwardi4899
@edwardi4899 3 жыл бұрын
excellent, but not with balon wheels
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