Installation and removal of a modified Hobie scupper cart while on the water without needing to turn or flip the kayak. Instructional video on how to make the pvc handle yourself. diy: • DIY instructions for m...
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@AegeanEpiphany2 жыл бұрын
Amazing that Hobie can invent something like 'Mirage Drive' but leave us all out in the cold when to comes to solo launching. Great workaround in this vid...!!
@JohnNguyen42 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@nikushim6665 Жыл бұрын
Thing is Hobart Alter created the mirage drive and he retired a long time ago (he also passed away in 2014). His family / company has just been milking the patents for every cent they can before they expire (Whole reason they put out passport line was to compete with all the clones after the original patent expired). bonafide and Boone Dox make far better solutions then Hobies extremely overpriced scupper carts (also seen plenty of PA hulls fail because of carts cracking the scuppers).
@jamesbruce6931 Жыл бұрын
This is the best solution I've seen. However, now I just leave the wheels on most of the time. Unless you have to pedal a long way to the fishing grounds, just leaving the wheels on is best.
@ERone43Ай бұрын
Lotta steps but beats cold hands. Nice idea nice vid
@thomassodomizer7645 жыл бұрын
You should get a patent for this.
@sonomian5 жыл бұрын
I've been struggle launching my Hobie Compass by tilting and losing my fishing gear etc. Thanks for sharing your info
@alemayehufenta69812 жыл бұрын
Smart way of solving the whole issue of kayak wheels.
@robutzinger27495 жыл бұрын
John, thanks so much. I’ve hurt my back wrapping around my hobie to extricate my cart in the water. Now I can just do it from the top. It will be a back saver. Nice job.
@JohnNguyen45 жыл бұрын
Glad to be able to help my fellow kayakers
@dixee64985 жыл бұрын
That was awesome! Now to just lose enough weight to be able to turn around in the seat without making a big splash! 🤠
@jeffcarr2265 Жыл бұрын
Or install pontoons
@johns3115 жыл бұрын
What a great idea! I have to try this on my Compass. Thanks for sharing!
@marcuspascual43355 жыл бұрын
Just did this for my Compass and just want to point out some things: 1. The clearance on the sides is very tight. I butane torched a post on the cart to soften it and bent it a little out to give me a little more clearance. Be careful not bend it too much the tolerances are actually quite tight to be able to fit in the scupper hole. 2. It will be easier if you glue the t-handle so that its oriented 90 degrees to the wheels. 3. When putting the cart back into scupper hole when its time to go home, sometimes the post will get stuck against the plastic lip inside, simply grab the metal post of the cart itself and pull up. Thanks John for sharing, say good bye to cart flipping!
@JohnNguyen45 жыл бұрын
Great tips! Are you on the Facebook owners group? You should share it there if you are.
@thomashicks71642 жыл бұрын
I have to give you a giant pat on the back..... I knew there must be a way..... Very ingenious.... Way to go and thank you for sharing....
@JohnNguyen42 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I didn't want to flip the kayak or get into the water for installation. Came from the boondox landing gear and I figured there had to be a better way with the hobie cart
@rickhall61713 ай бұрын
That’s gotta be in the top 5 most Genius, simplest, easiest kayak mods I’ve seen on the internet! Two thumbs up! 👍🏻👍🏻
@JohnNguyen43 ай бұрын
Thanks Rick!
@himderfella3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant innovation. I regret not buying a scupper hole trolley. I have seen a KZfaq video of a Lake Macquarie NSW Australia kayaker (Paul Farrell) who uses bungee (stretch) cords to pull his trolley into position. A great assist to users of scupper type kayak trolleys.
@johnstoker19445 жыл бұрын
You smart bastard, you! How fucking clever is that! Well executed!!
@jm77chung4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!! I made it! Actually bottom part of pvc pipe was broken on the first try. I replaced bottom part with metal pipe and it works well!!!
@fredaw615 жыл бұрын
That was an ingenious idea.
@Tohoku095 жыл бұрын
This is awesome, thanks for sharing!!!
@rickt19512 жыл бұрын
WoW!!!!!!!!!!! One of the best mods ever.
@wkillam2 жыл бұрын
Now that really is brilliant! Nice job!
@jerrykrobby4 жыл бұрын
Solid work sir!
@FWJCgen1283 жыл бұрын
I just bought a 2020 hobie outback and on a recent trip struggled to not lose my gear. This is such a great idea and having the same cart, I will definitely need to try this. You should consider making and selling the pvc portion so the masses will only have to do the drilling.
@JohnNguyen43 жыл бұрын
Thank you. It doesn't fit on your 19 and newer outbacks because of the increased width. Good luck with finding a solution for your yak!
@Phalanx64334 ай бұрын
This is absolutley genius, well done mate!
@JohnNguyen44 ай бұрын
Thanks! Still works for me.
@thenarstraveler3 жыл бұрын
Genius! Thanks for sharing!
@kenflyergc Жыл бұрын
I agree with one of the early posts.....seems Hobie could develop something similar....again thanks dor the tip.... I will get to work on one ....
@JohnNguyen4 Жыл бұрын
They would probably sell it for $99 or more. It's also limited to the narrower range of their kayaks. Compass and smaller. The current generation outback and PAs are too wide for this, which I assume is where most of their sales are. Good luck with the build.
@maureengaherty6774 жыл бұрын
Amazing! You definitely need to patent...I'll buy one for sure!
@mibunsu35285 жыл бұрын
how genius !! great!
@maryfield69204 жыл бұрын
Thank you! What a great idea!
@pitviprplays97943 жыл бұрын
ingenuity at its finest!
@getoffyourbassandletsfish76515 жыл бұрын
Award worthy 🏆
@myboyz023 жыл бұрын
Genius. Absolutely genius.
@bradmakovy98925 жыл бұрын
Really cool idea
@wayneworley27822 жыл бұрын
That’s ingenious!!!
@FLEITASG4 жыл бұрын
Es sorprendente.. ¡¡¡¡¡¡ Eres el único, el primero, muchas gracias amigo. Lo haré
@alexmanson17625 жыл бұрын
Your a genius. You just saved me $261. Thank you for sharing.
@LifeBehindBars_20174 жыл бұрын
what were you going to spend the $261 on?
@rubengonzalez83993 жыл бұрын
LaMadrid81 maybe Boondox landing gear, my guess
@claudiofrotta12805 жыл бұрын
Congratulation! Very good!
@kernlkajun13 жыл бұрын
This is great, can’t see it working on a PA14 due to the width but will check it out. Thanks.
@cmillie90443 жыл бұрын
This video should have blown up!
@terridrimel10564 жыл бұрын
Clever idea!
@ShazBookOwl3 жыл бұрын
That is awesome!!! You should have more subscribers - I'm subbed and binge watching. :-D
@saychow033 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks for sharing! Does this work on a 2020 outback?
@toddwaters9135 жыл бұрын
It seems like the ends of the poles scrape the sides and bottom of the kayak. Is that electric tape you put on them?
@Jorgerodriguez-pe1wf5 жыл бұрын
Awesome idea
@MrFlamingawesome5 жыл бұрын
Crap that's genius! Dont mind me stealing your idea ;)
@Oscar-ee6su5 жыл бұрын
Your brilliant thank you
@trairasaventuras99202 жыл бұрын
Very good. 👍🏻
@MarkoAbo5 жыл бұрын
Awesome idea! But with those stupid big blow up tires it's virtually impossible.
@himderfella3 жыл бұрын
Try this kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o7mlfpiknbSRc3U.html
@missiletm2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, not possible with the beach cart.
@jeffreycarter306625 күн бұрын
Yeah, I have those too. It would be impossible
@rogerford82815 жыл бұрын
Sweet! Great mod!
@rogerford82815 жыл бұрын
I'd also like to know what exactly that clip is called. Can't seem to find it!
@dirtybayfishing4 жыл бұрын
Got a link for the clip?
@paulnewell35092 жыл бұрын
Well dang, look at the big brain on this guy.
@davidcarvalho3663 Жыл бұрын
saved the marketing guys at Hobe some work!! i’m sure this accessory will be available for a mere $250 soon! 😝
@jeffcarr2265 Жыл бұрын
Nice , I like it
@keithcoleman60055 жыл бұрын
How did you remove the end cap on the pole with the bungee cord? On the standard cart that side is like a glued in plastic and I can't get it out with a flat head screwdriver like the other side that just pops out easy.
@JohnNguyen45 жыл бұрын
You're right, it's hard to remove. I ended up destroying that cap. Used a flat head screwdriver and a hammer. Try a heat gun first?
@seanhung149824 жыл бұрын
Hey John, this looks great. I noticed you added something on the cart where the original Hobie "caps" were removed. Did you use some kind of tape?
@anonimous5962 жыл бұрын
those clips on amazon are no longer listed, I wonder if you could just use a pool clip? the ones that go on skimmers etc. - gonna try this pretty soon to cold in the winter to wade out to my knees to get that stupid cart under there -- great idea!
@AD-ny3gv4 жыл бұрын
Hi John. I'm looking to make one of these rods/poles for my hobie cart. How long are the two 1/2 inch PVC pipes you connected with the coupling? and where did you track down the button clip that pinches into the cart? Having trouble searching for it. Thanks!
@JohnNguyen44 жыл бұрын
Email me johnzsta@gmail.com and I'll send you the details and directions.
@timmoore60553 жыл бұрын
If you are not an engineer, perhaps you should consider that as a career - or career change! Ingenious!
@JohnNguyen43 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@dimplezdimples84516 жыл бұрын
Love it Love it! I have seen versions where they add weight to the cart so you don't fight the buoyancy. I love the T handle idea to be able to rotate the cart. Where do you find that little spring loaded gizmo ?
@JohnNguyen46 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Search 6mm paddle spring snap button clip on eBay or amazon
@pitchkapizda83552 жыл бұрын
Genius 👍🏼
@chriskwan16214 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@cliff64904 жыл бұрын
I like the concept anyway to adapt to a pro angler hobie because of it being wider any thoughts? Thx great idea
@JohnNguyen44 жыл бұрын
Yeah pro angler is too wide. 2019+ Outbacks are too wide also.
@toddwaters9135 жыл бұрын
I got most of it done weirdly I can only do your technique from the left side of the kayak. The right side scupper is off center or something and the cart goes in at an improper angle. Cart goes in fine normally though.
@JohnNguyen45 жыл бұрын
Try it again while you're on the water. The buoyancy of the tires may help in aiming the post to that scupper. Dry testing will only go so far because the weight of the tires changes the straightness of the PVC+post. Hope you understand what I'm trying to say.
@toddwaters9135 жыл бұрын
How did you make sure you drilled the holes into the metal at the correct height on the other pole?
@JohnNguyen45 жыл бұрын
It doesn't have to be exact. I think I measured from the top of the post to the center of the existing hole. Then marked the same length on the other post
@marcuspascual43355 жыл бұрын
can you provide the length for the section of pvc from the bottom end to the coupler and from the bottom of the top pvc to the t-handle?
@JohnNguyen45 жыл бұрын
Sure Marcus, bottom to coupler length is 8.25 inches, coupler to tee is 15 inches. This is taking into consideration the 1/2 inch needed to glue pipe to the coupler and tee.
@wangng19974 жыл бұрын
great idea ,
@mattpurvis94413 жыл бұрын
I would love to know the lengths of pvc you used to assemble this tool! Great work.
@JohnNguyen43 жыл бұрын
I made a follow up video showing each step in making the handle. It's slightly better then what I used in this old video. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bMmqlNiYnqnRcWQ.html
@derekbushnell13095 жыл бұрын
Wow. Great idea. Wonder if it would work on a Outback
@JohnNguyen45 жыл бұрын
I haven't heard of anyone doing it on an outback, but I'd be interested to know if it fits as well
@frappy8153 жыл бұрын
@@JohnNguyen4 this does not work on a 2019 through 21 outback. i just tested my HD cart to see if it would fit in the scupper hole and outside the kayak and the outback is too wide for cart. great idea tho and was going to do this for my outback. Josh Bister
@missiletm2 жыл бұрын
Genius!
@joeep466 ай бұрын
Nice!
@alangonyea3841 Жыл бұрын
INGENIOUS! great job with this idea! where did you get the little pin to connect the handle to the cart and how did you attach it to the pvc? Did you glue it to the inside of the pvc pipe? 👍
@JohnNguyen4 Жыл бұрын
If you search "push button spring clip" on Amazon, there are plenty of options. 6mm is close enough to fit the 1/4 inch holes of the Hobie cart. I have another video on how to make the handle kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bMmqlNiYnqnRcWQ.html
@budgetoutdoorsman73365 жыл бұрын
Proto type! Make a molded one and Patent it
@tontobb89562 жыл бұрын
Brilliant
@jwalker4979 ай бұрын
just tried this with a hobie lynx and the lynx is too tight unfortunately
@williamcharleson20513 жыл бұрын
Great idea hobie should hire you.theg pay thefe engineers millions and you spent 2 bucks awesome man
@toddwaters9135 жыл бұрын
Can you link the exact paddle spring snaps you used? The ones I got aren't tall enough and slip out of the cart holes when I pull up.
@@toddwaters913 try bending the end of the snap where the peg is so that it protrudes out of the pvc more
@colonialjim91544 жыл бұрын
Patent that now! 👍🏻
@alecslifer35772 жыл бұрын
Great video! Love the Compass! What rods holders do you use? I like the way you got yours set up!
@JohnNguyen42 жыл бұрын
Thanks Alec. First I extended the flush mount rod holders with two 18 inch lengths of 1 1/2 PVC pipe. Use a heat gun to soften the pipe to make it fit. Then I added gear tracks to both sides of the tank well to hold the Railblaza rod holders. a.co/d/9aQZbN6
@fishingwithmg5 жыл бұрын
This is genius! Is there a way you can email me the parts list if possible? I wanna try this out on my hobie outback and I fish a lot alone and getting the kayak on the cart on the water is easy, but trying to get the cart under the boat without tilting it with full gear is darn near impossible unless I have someone else helping me out. I'd greatly appreciate it!
@JohnNguyen45 жыл бұрын
Hey Mark, what's your email? I see you have a pre 2019 outback. Make sure you can fit the Hobie cart with one post in the scupper and one on the side before you start modding. I know the 2019s are too wide for this method.
@fishingwithmg5 жыл бұрын
@@JohnNguyen4 thanks brother! And yes when I saw this video after I bought my 2018 outback i measured the width of scupper to the cart and it fits between the space. Its fishingwithmg@gmail.com and I very much appreciate you sending over the specs!
@FoxtrotGear2 жыл бұрын
Any changes in this design? I did the bungee hack but my wife needs help lifting the Compass to get the cart out. I really like this idea.
@JohnNguyen42 жыл бұрын
I haven't changed it much. Instead of using a coupler and gluing two pieces of PVC together, I kept it long and added a stop collar instead. You can see it in this video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bMmqlNiYnqnRcWQ.html
@blazin808rootz5 ай бұрын
Nice
@garyrussell77503 жыл бұрын
Just a thought, but, couldn't you have cut just the pvc pipe and used the whole coupling instead of cutting the it? I just made mine from your excellent mod directions but didnt cut the coupler, instead opting to cut the pipe and cement them into the coupling. I forgot the foam for flotation, so Ill try the expanding foam i used in the Watersnake trolling motor mod. Thanks for the great mod and also on the excellent instructions on the Watersnake mod! Cant wait to hit the lakes here in E Tenn soon as my boat registration papers are processed. I also used your KMart mod for the battery carry case. You Da Man.
@JohnNguyen43 жыл бұрын
You definitely could cut the pipe and use the entire coupler. I did that on my 1st version and had no issues. Only reason why I showed this way was because it was just one less connection.
@markjungdahl30544 жыл бұрын
How does the Hobie cart not fall out when you unclip the handle to move it? Does the Hobie cart float?
@JohnNguyen44 жыл бұрын
Yes the wheels are buoyant so it forces the posts upward. If you lose it, it will float around for you to retrieve.
@markjungdahl30544 жыл бұрын
@@JohnNguyen4 Oh Man, I didn't know that. This is awesome.
@pingpong8085 жыл бұрын
Genius!! Thanks for the great idea! I wonder if it would also work with the sand tires. I figure they're much more buoyant than the regular tires, especially the large sand tires. Is it hard to fight the buoyancy of the tires of your cart?
@JohnNguyen45 жыл бұрын
It isn't that difficult with the HD tires unless there is a very strong current. Those balloon tires may be pretty difficult to submerge, not sure I'd try it with this method. Good luck if you do. Maybe use aluminum pipe instead of pvc.
@yakzen41205 жыл бұрын
John Nguyen I suspect you are correct. I have the Fold & Stow and I can’t believe how buoyant they are.
@tklein034 жыл бұрын
Will this work on the 2019 or 2020 compass?
@JohnNguyen44 жыл бұрын
I don't see why it shouldn't fit. The hull design hasn't changed at all.
@frappy8153 жыл бұрын
great idea. wont work on a 2019 or newer Outback! Kayak is too wide for cart to fit in scupper hole and outside of kayak. i was wishing it would work. josh Bister
@darrenm95974 жыл бұрын
That's clever
@Victoria-ol8qj4 жыл бұрын
Great
@noahsheehan62955 жыл бұрын
Do you have a detailed parts list? Sizes of PVC. Clip etc
@JohnNguyen45 жыл бұрын
I'm out of town right now, but I can give you the parts list and measurements when I get back. we
@noahsheehan62955 жыл бұрын
@@JohnNguyen4 sounds good thanks.
@JohnNguyen45 жыл бұрын
@@noahsheehan6295 Noah, what's your email?
@jeffreycarter306625 күн бұрын
Can the same be done with the beach wheels?
@JohnNguyen425 күн бұрын
@@jeffreycarter3066 I've never tried it myself, but it would probably be too buoyant and hard to push underwater.
@LifeBehindBars_20174 жыл бұрын
this is the best cart mod ive seen so far. how well does it work for beaches? also, have you got a video on how you made the tool?
@JohnNguyen44 жыл бұрын
The Hobie wheels shown here won't work well on the beach. The balloon tires will. I may upload a video on how to make the handle and also how to install it in a few weeks
@LifeBehindBars_20174 жыл бұрын
@@JohnNguyen4 oh no i meant, does it work well when you come back in on a beach. i assume you'd have to do it while its still deep before you beach yourself
@JohnNguyen44 жыл бұрын
@@LifeBehindBars_2017 I wouldn't recommend it . The kayak moves up and down in the surf too much and the cart could damage the underside of the kayak.
@HussainKovic4 жыл бұрын
Did this work with hobie big tires cart ?
@JohnNguyen44 жыл бұрын
It may not work because the big sand tires are too buoyant and would bend the PVC to a point where you can't align to tubes to the scuppers.
@instantjizzАй бұрын
Where do you get that detent clip thing
@JohnNguyen4Ай бұрын
Search for 6mm paddle spring clip stainless steel on Amazon a.co/d/67D9qEe
@instantjizzАй бұрын
@@JohnNguyen4 thank you
@augustinbergher90492 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@caiaqueirojs.66264 жыл бұрын
Like garantido
@martins.71753 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately this doesn’t work wheel with the sand wheelez because of the buoyancy
@krexiiroxx55735 жыл бұрын
Wow
@alexmanson17625 жыл бұрын
I forgot to mention...I hope this works on the 2017 PA 14
John Nguyen thank you and great little thing you came up with
@tgardner8663 жыл бұрын
For all of the "innovation" that Hobie boasts about, they cant do a better job with the damn cart? That is literally the only glaring flaw with it. Great job with this modification. Terrible job by Hobie.