They Can't Keep Getting Away With This

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The Vegas Golden Knights are up 2-0 against the Dallas Stars in the NHL Playoffs. We break down the Vegas system & how they are a systematic force that the fans desperately want to fail.
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@BahamutBreaker Ай бұрын

This type of visual breakdown (with the stop-time highlights and appropriate use of arrows and other identifying symbols superimposed on the video) and complementary narrative/verbal analysis are incredibly good for amateur work. I know this channel has had success with its tongue-in-cheek humorous weekly reviews of NHL action… but those are NOT the reason why this channel kicks ass. It’s THESE videos, like this one, that are where this channel truly shines and stands alone in excellence.

@10.11.9 Ай бұрын

He has a good understanding of the game.

@AntonKulikov Ай бұрын

This is what differentiates this channel from its copycats, yes.

@Nocternel 21 күн бұрын

I love these videos because as someone who doesn't watch other sports and never grew up around them, these videos help me to understand the game of hockey so much more. I learn more and more every day and my knowledge has grown so much in the past 2 years because of videos like these.

@bigjust7016 Ай бұрын

Man I wish I had Mark Stone’s doctor. Bro must be crazy

@TheWarlord9883 Ай бұрын

One of the clutchest doc´s in NHL history. Should go into the HoF.

@Jacobgblue Ай бұрын

@@TheWarlord9883under rated comment

@quelchx Ай бұрын

Making bank I bet

@angryassyrian5627 Ай бұрын

The dude would probably make you regrow limbs, best doctor in the NHL

@brycebabineaux3384 29 күн бұрын

Fake doctors note

@the1andonly759 Ай бұрын

Great touch at the end of the video… RIP Bob Cole❤

@ryanc9888 Ай бұрын

What a move, what a goal, Oh baby!

@doublestrokeroll Ай бұрын

Yep. Bob was a legend. Him and Harry were a joy to listen to.

@ryanreeves8931 Ай бұрын

He was the best at it!!

@modernwarfaremaniac12 Ай бұрын

The knowledge you have of the game is so good. Can’t wait to see you breakdown other series for these playoffs

@robertrobbins1367 Ай бұрын

Its Rough being a Dallas fan right now.. The knights are a GREAT team... They have a full team of talent and a good system... Not losing hope but its dire.

@hockey_highlights_and_more Ай бұрын

Try being a leaf fan 😢 it doesn’t get much worse than that, you’ve gotten to see a winner

@shinyuta Ай бұрын

@@hockey_highlights_and_more i can get half of the experience by watching steve dangle lol.

@Kennypowers51 Ай бұрын

Im a knights fan. I LOL'd when the fans boo'd Stone everytime he touched the puck.

@liljoe31 Ай бұрын

Just complain about LTIR it's a hilarious gotcha on the Knights

@hockey_highlights_and_more Ай бұрын

@@shinyuta no you can’t, watching it is much different than living it

@jeffmcneill5922 Ай бұрын

Very classy to call out Bob Cole.

@murrethmedia Ай бұрын

I don't blame the Vegas LTIRs, I blame the league.

@ace2585 Ай бұрын

Just mad my team didn't think of this con first 😂

@willsee7452 Ай бұрын

@CL-ie5fz100% false.

@OWlsfordshire Ай бұрын

@@willsee7452He means to the same extent. Vegas is 14 mil over cap

@ryanc9888 Ай бұрын

@@ace2585 Tampa Bay did it first when they kept Kucherov and his 9.5m cap hit off the payroll for the entire 2020-21 season allowing them to re sign other players and add at the deadline. When the playoffs started Kuchervov was suddenly ready to play lol

@GJMinimizer Ай бұрын

As a VGK fan, my favorite part is everyone getting mad at us and calling us cheaters when we pull off trades like we did for Hanifin, Mantha, and Hertl. No one is holding a gun to these other general managers and making them trade with us! If they think we are cheating like all the fans do, then why do all these GMs keep helping us and trade us these players? If we are the villains and the cheaters of the NHL, why do other teams keep trading us star players if they all feel the same as the fans do? It just makes me laugh at how salty people can be! Call it what you like, but you have to respect how the front office goes about acquiring talent!

@patrickn594 Ай бұрын

Once hockey stops in the summer, you should make a video about every team and why they didnt make the playoffs or were eliminating

@DiogenesTheCynic. Ай бұрын

UrinatingTree will have you covered.

@patrickn594 Ай бұрын

@DiogenesTheCynic. Who is Urinating Tree?

@bartsanders1553 Ай бұрын

Vegas is putting on a clinic on how to make Shannon Skanes Drink.

@williammontroy9024 Ай бұрын

Those Dallas pint glasses ain't gonna have time to ever get frosted at this rate

@lewissemajay8789 Ай бұрын

Sour grapes by what can only be a Leafs fan. Too bad Toronto's front office has been circling the drain for many consecutive decades. Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard. When up and down the franchise there is no personal awareness of how mediocre you are - and when you are mediocre, you are always at your best.

@DiogenesTheCynic. Ай бұрын

I mean he did buy them just to drink out of them when Dallas bows out, he just didnt expect round 1

@waynegreen7634 21 күн бұрын

@@DiogenesTheCynic.Lmfao funny how Vegas got punked in game 7 😂

@thedistrict95 Ай бұрын

Last 15 seasons, 2009 Sharks, 2012 Canucks, 2015 & 2020 Blues, 2017 Blackhawks, & 2019 Flames. What do they have in common? No.1 seeds in the West that flamed out in Round One and only the Sharks and Blues(both years) made it to a Game 6. Out East, 2010 Capitals(Halaked), 2019 Lightning(Swept) & 2023 Bruins(Playoff Bob) being all time choke jobs. Dallas is fast approaching this bad territory.

@intergalact1659 Ай бұрын

Bruins experienced a Bobbery

@Evan-C 22 күн бұрын

Vegas lost

@thedistrict95 22 күн бұрын

@Evan-C I watched the whole series, Dallas dodged a bullet

@Evan-C 22 күн бұрын

@@thedistrict95 new champs this year

@Alex-oe2kk Ай бұрын

blame the NHL, Tampa did it too.🤷‍♂️

@joshuagagnon8387 Ай бұрын

I hate Tampa too 🤣

@mpreuss2 Ай бұрын

The Blackhawks did it before Tampa 🤷‍♂️

@bigprovos12 Ай бұрын

That’s a lot of 🤷‍♂️

@DiogenesTheCynic. Ай бұрын

17 teams above the cap, 12 in the playoffs, Leafs (98m) and Bolts (93m) are losing right now. Its not just about the salary cap circumvention, its about picking the right guys to fill up the slot left behind by injured players.

@gabrielidusogie9189 Ай бұрын

them bolts bout to be swept

@dtmuffinman Ай бұрын

Panthers fan here, it reminds me of us a couple year ago when we won the Presidents Trophy. Just feels like a team that wins via rush offense just ain't ever gonna get it done in the postseason.

@SourBuddha Ай бұрын

Also that year we were outscoring our problems, which isnt a way to win a cup

@divakatrina 26 күн бұрын

Presidents Trophy is a curse!

@kurt9034 Ай бұрын

I hate the league just lets this happen. I am especially salty due to the Lighting being 18M over the cap when my Habs lost in the finals.

@babyyoda6549 Ай бұрын

It is almost impossible to beat Vegas because of how much depth they have ,you pretty much have to play a perfect game. It’s crazy.

@natev580 Ай бұрын

Except the only reason they have that depth is because they abuse LTIR at the trade deadline. Vegas is currently almost 9 million dollars over the cap. Quite convenient for them when the cap is no longer applicable in the playoffs.. Teams should be required to be cap compliant on the last game of the season, and players on LTIR should be eligible to play the last game of the season. If the team is not cap compliant, they should forfeit their playoff eligibility and any player who is not cleared to play game 82 of the regular season should not be eligible to play a single playoff game. That would solve the problem right there. Oh, and that goes for my home team too since they are currently over the cap. There, those should be the new rules.

@DigitalHayds Ай бұрын

Yeah it’s almost like if you have more firepower than you’re supposed to be able to afford you’re gonna have more firepower than you’re supposed to be able to afford

@ryanalaniz4525 Ай бұрын

@@natev580every team does it. Colorado did it on their run and so did Tampa back to back. Blame the GMs for voting on it. Our front office is just doing it better than everyone else

@natev580 Ай бұрын

@@ryanalaniz4525 Yeah, they all do it. It is technically within the bounds of the rules. But it needs to stop. And I'm not sitting here saying "Vegas needs to stop abusing the system". I'm an Oilers fan.. They're over the cap too. I'm saying that as a whole, the system needs to change.

@ryanalaniz4525 Ай бұрын

@@natev580 that’s fair. I agree, I think it’ll change soon for all the heat we’re getting for it now

@eldonkozack185 Ай бұрын

Salary cap should carry right into the playoffs

@ilikerobots3446 Ай бұрын

I’m a stars fan but at this point I’ve lost all hope

@Kennypowers51 Ай бұрын

You guys beat us twice at our place in the wc finals last year. Its not over.

@erikholland8844 Ай бұрын

I'm a Stars fan too and I know holding onto hope right now is hard. But Kenny is right, we took two games from them last year in Vegas. We're not out of it yet.

@paulringgold7715 Ай бұрын

No, Stars won one game in Vegas and one in Dallas in OT last year.

@dougosullivan7111 Ай бұрын

There is no hope when facing a circumvented team. The Kings circumvented in 2014 and won a cup, Chicago did it in 2015 and won a cup, Tampa did it and won a cup, Colorado did it and won a cup, then Vegas did it last year and won a cup, now they did it again this year and are up 2-0 against a really tough team. Vegas's traded for Eichel, a player they couldn't afford and they've been abusing their ltir ever since, even one of their own players went public about how Mcrimmon is abusing ltir. The year they picked up Eichel he had a neck surgery that had never been done before on a player in a contact sport, so Vegas had to put him in to make sure, so there goes Stone on ltir, Eichel plays for a little over a month then goes back on ltir and stone comes off ltir. I learned a long time ago it's a waste of time and money watching the playoffs when a team circumvents, that's why I haven't watched the playoffs since 2019, I've got better things to do than watch a fake champion purchase a cup. If fans were smart they'd boycott the playoffs and the league would lose millions and that garbage loophole would be gone

@merksmovies25 Ай бұрын

@@dougosullivan7111lol you just names teams who won, there are a bunch of forgotten teams that used the ltir that didnt win. Fake champions, guess you’re a fan of a loser organization

@maqywhaq Ай бұрын

Put a cap on LTIR cap overrun or/AND(?) make it count against the next years cap if you roster the player(without said playing replacing someone else who's been injured). So lets say cap overrun with LTIR lets you ice an extra 5%, but if you go over that, the hit counts as a penalty for the upcoming season. This lets you ice replacement or entry level players, but if you're LTIRing a star player to circumvent a salary cap, something like Luongo's recapture rule should take place. If owners/GMs vote on it being too harsh, maybe add in a 1 year mulligan for the first offence, but if it happens consecutively , it counts against the team(which allows teams positioned to leverage it a one time advantage, but maybe have the cap penalty be stiffer so teams can't ride it till their competitive window is entirely closed).

@je7055 20 күн бұрын

Stars fan here, just wanted to say you hit the nail squarely on the head. Vegas's forecheck gave Dallas all kinds of fits and, as you said, the Stars had to take advantage of their versatility and win with an approach a bit outside their comfort zone. The hard-skating fourth line was brilliant all series and scored a few goals, including Faksa's series-winner in Game 7 off a nice meat-and-potatoes cycle following a Harley pinch to keep the puck in. The skill players, rather than racking up the chances off the rush like they did in the regular season, were usually forced to wait until a Vegas miscue and then pounce, as with Johnston's beautiful unassisted goal to open the scoring in Game 7. Really nice analysis here, you called the series to a T.

@CBXND2 28 күн бұрын

Your breakdowns are extremely informative and always really well done, I've learned a lot about the small, and previously unseen by me nuances of hockey and makes watching the games a lot more interesting. Love these videos man keep it up.

@ReallyBigToaster Ай бұрын

This breakdown is incredible, I’ve been a fan for 18 years and I’m learning so much

@joey4222 Ай бұрын

I’ve been loving them as a new hockey junkie

@liamrose.9 Ай бұрын

@@joey4222welcome to the sport my man. please dont cheer for vegas tho 😂

@grahamdamberger7130 Ай бұрын

Bob Cole's best radio call was back in 1976 with the line "They're going home. The Russians are going home." Flyers defenceman Ed Van Imp made a big hit on Red Army forward Valery Kharlamov during a Canada Cup game, which started causing frustrations to boil over for the Red Army team on the Flyers' Broad Street Bullies style of hockey, ending with the Red Army squad walking back to the dressing room before the game's conclusion (they would go back out to finish the game. Or the hit occurred in the third period and became their breaking point which caused them to give up and head down the tunnel.

@DrDoom-bl1sk Ай бұрын

I am so pissed. The ONLY team I wanted to avoid (at least in the Western Conference) was the Golden Knights. As soon as I saw we had them as our opponent, I had the feeling in my gut that we were screwed. They always seem to have the Stars' number.

@borrow4654 Ай бұрын

Hard not to when you load up on 3 superstars players while your captain sits pretty with a "lacerated splean". Miracle recovery. As he does every year I dont see how vagas wont win the cup. And if they do, the NHL will be worse for it. Not a serious league

@Kennypowers51 Ай бұрын

We Knights fans were more afraid of Edmonton and I 35% think they lost to the ducks on purpose. Also, if the Cannucks throw a game, is it on porpoise.

@Jedalgo Ай бұрын

He just explained why they have a better match up against the Stars. it's no mystery. it's up to the coaching staff to fix it

@HalfNHalf. Ай бұрын

@@borrow4654who tf is VAGAS?

@borrow4654 Ай бұрын

@@HalfNHalf. god forbid someone writes a typo

@_bits_and_bytes Ай бұрын

as a stars fan who never played hockey and knows very little about the X's and O's of the sport, thanks for the video! Vegas was the team I wanted to play the least going into the playoffs and it's nice to have a video that lays out why they're such a tough match up for us and how we're trying to respond.

@Dougie-ex1ov Ай бұрын

Well if they are put on reserves they are void from playing in the first round or some shit. Or if you aquire more players than the cap allows when they come back you have to sit someone.

@wm9312 Ай бұрын

The salary cap isn't really about having a level playing field. It's about keeping salaries down for the majority of players. I can't recall the players name, but he was a key penalty/defensive player for the Red Wings Cup teams, and he signed with the Bruins for $5 million a season. A lot of money. It opened the flood gates on salaries and the league figured they had to do something to protect it from themselves so they followed the NFL

@dereksbooks Ай бұрын

Who knew that market manipulation would be a bad thing, just like in the real world when the government cannot keep its nasty hands off the free market? The Tampa Rays and Oakland A's prove most of the time that a hard salary cap isn't necessary for a team to be competitive, and the Yankees and Angels keep proving that you can't just buy championships.

@burtmann3921 Ай бұрын

love the analogy on this chanel. Well done !! and very nice touch with the Bob Cole tribute "Oh baby "

@matthewemht9785 Ай бұрын

I expected a rant but got all learned up! Thx. I didn’t want to but you made me subscribe with your quality content!

@spencerstewart8765 Ай бұрын

Just would like to clarify when it comes to players who are on the LTIR the nhl does get involved with their own doctors to follow up on players recovery and injuries to insure they are legitimate and not sandbagging for playoffs. Now could mark stone of started a week or 2 earlier maybe but if it’s within a week or 2 window any team would take advantage of the LTIR and done the same. Whether you agree or not mark stone had a legitimate injury that any playoff team would have taken the same advantage of.

@Srdjana- Ай бұрын

He wasn't injured to begin with, get real.

@lvhatrick Ай бұрын

@@Srdjana-where do you get your information. I’d like to see your source besides the voices in your head.

@spencerstewart8765 Ай бұрын

@@Srdjana- please show me where doctors said his liver wasn’t lacerated.

@pmczapczara5332 Ай бұрын

@@lvhatrick and you got you info.. ..."because vegas said so." Correct?

@pmczapczara5332 Ай бұрын

@@spencerstewart8765please show what they said was verified....you know it wasn't. They don't give out any injury details.. (like Tor/ Nylander) "Lacarated spleen" recovery time is generally a longer window. And, how astoundingly coincidental stones recovery 'just happened' to perfectly coincide with trade deadlines and first day of playoffs simultaneously. It's amazing, it's a miracle....or...it's blatant abuse of the system. Tampa did it too, egregiously, miss most of the season and returns for game 1..? BS. league and owners need to initiate some changes to prevent abuse in this area. It undermines the integrity of the sport to let it go like this.

@zjsz4954 Ай бұрын

I still can’t believe they interviewed Stone at Dallas’ barn, that’s some WWE level trolling

@liljoe31 Ай бұрын

On the upside it drowned out her dumb questions

@selfaccountable3464 Ай бұрын

@@liljoe31 Leah Hextall only has a spot in the NHL game crews because of her uncle. I once trolled her wiklpedia page and called her the worst play by play hockey announcer on a major network in the last 25 years.

@joonaoinonen9966 Ай бұрын

Awesome video. Keep hustling g🔥🔥

@nomimalone7520 Ай бұрын

Classy tribute to Bob Cole at the end. He's a legend. Oh baby!

@mikebarka5626 Ай бұрын

Loved it when you said he doesn't pick up "sexy numbers" because he's on LTIR :D

@primer16 Ай бұрын

Tampa started it a few years ago

@kickthesky Ай бұрын

Chicago taught them first, actually.

@deanhil3978 Ай бұрын

BEST 8 minutes on YT! Thanks man.

@doublestrokeroll Ай бұрын

Bob Cole. Absolute legend. Him and Harry were a great combination.

@michaelzilkowsky2936 Ай бұрын

Harry Neale was the best color man, hands down. During a game in Winnipeg, a TV light started flashing like mad, necessitating a halt to the game till it could be repaired. Harry said to Don Whitman, 'it looks like a concert in here from The Iron Maiden, or one of those bands that you listen to.' At a Philly game, the camera held on one of the off ice officials who was wearing a helmet at the scorer's desk. "lots of celebrities at the game tonight, Don. There we can see Darth Vader enjoying the play." During an LA playoff game, the camera went to Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman sitting together. "I'll bet its going to be nights of thunder when they get home.'

@coryernewein Ай бұрын

RIP to an absolute legend 🙌 🙏

@bousestudios6488 Ай бұрын

From what I saw the stars have the same problem as last year.

@davidbrown180 Ай бұрын

Being booed by the home team, your doing something right

@randomjoker7802 Ай бұрын

Great vid bro enjoyed it never miss

@EPiche09 Ай бұрын

It's an insane storyline. So easy to play the heal for Vegas. Someone's gotta do it.

@rickhammond2473 Ай бұрын

See if my 755.00 on Vegas to take the cup works out.I have been purchasing slips November

@Giantstalking Ай бұрын

The LTIR thing has been a loophole for like 5 years. It’s just on other teams for not having good management lol.

@csharp48 Ай бұрын

Tampa Bay complained that Blackhawks exploited it in 2015 when Patrick Kane returned in the playoffs. Then, because the NHL wouldn't close it, they took advantage of it, too. The point is, closer to 10 years.

@DigitalHayds Ай бұрын

Cheating isn’t good management lmao I’m not against cannibalism because I wish I could eat people. Only people who say this don’t gaf about the game or its integrity

@tromedl Ай бұрын

They should really close it and not remove it for the playoffs

@danolsen7405 Ай бұрын

Teams voted 29 - 1 to keep the rule in 2015.

@csharp48 Ай бұрын

@@danolsen7405 AND expressed zero interest in even voting on it again. We'll see next Governors Meeting, but this year it was, according to Elliot Friedman, a 45 second conversation of "figure out a solution and present it."

@williamcollins5688 Ай бұрын

This is a solid tactical breakdown 💡 Great work 👉

@giffwingsg3402 Ай бұрын

Great video.

@cs1458 Ай бұрын

I could never hate Stoney. He exposed what a dirty player PK Subban always was deep down.

@HalfNHalf. Ай бұрын

So true

@ericvanvlandren8987 Ай бұрын

Tampa Bay 2021 playoffs, the miracle healing Kucherov trick. Ask Montreal how they feel.

@MadLadJay98 Ай бұрын

The knights are the 80's raiders of hockey I love it

@ledovegas Ай бұрын

Great video on explaining how Vegas D system match up well with Stars O system. I was wrong thinking this is just another bash on how Vegas uses LITR...

@austinbeck2896 Ай бұрын

You know, i would say fair to most of your points, but since joining the hockey fan club back in the inaugural season for vegas all i have seen is the DEFINITION of COACH AND FRONT OFFICE difference. At one point this season especially in their slide from top 3 in the west, vegas had 2 forward and a defensive line on IR, sorry we didn't go down and get knocked out of the playoff race. Also, series ain't over till someone wins 4, still a chance to win even if it's deboer lol.

@goleavesgo1967 Ай бұрын

“Joining hockey in the inaugural season for Vegas” followed by that shit take makes sense

@jameschristian192 Ай бұрын

Vegas on their joker arc and I love it

@AnAverageCitizen 27 күн бұрын

Awesome amount of information!

@dstefaniuk5741 Ай бұрын

Also, out of curiosity does anyone else think seeding doesn’t matter in the postseason? Honestly playoffs and RGSZN are 2 different games. Some teams are built for it (Vegas, Tampa, former Chicago and LA teams, Avs, etc..) and some teams just aren’t because of top heavy teams (Dallas, Toronto, Edmonton). Truth is you can’t load up on 1-2 lines, you need those 3-4 line guys to be just as good

@michaelhochstetler8483 25 күн бұрын

Believe it not, a week later & Dallas is on top!👏

@jefflester4131 Ай бұрын

Don't be Salty! GO VEGAS!

@Cyclonetic Ай бұрын

I love the Vegas Golden Knights. Go Knights 👍👍🎉🎉

@liljoe31 Ай бұрын

The entire blue collar population of Las Vegas is with you on this comment

@selfaccountable3464 Ай бұрын

Feels good to cheat the system and stack the team with a way over the cap trick....... Being rewarded for getting injured. Shameful.

@Cyclonetic Ай бұрын

@@selfaccountable3464 I honestly don’t care. I based my teams off of their colors and logos, with the exception of my favorite teams stay my favorites and Vegas is one of them. I don’t care about the behind the scene of the teams

@selfaccountable3464 Ай бұрын

@@Cyclonetic Cool.... so you prefer to be ignorant that your team is cheating. So you are ignorant indeed.

@Cyclonetic 29 күн бұрын

@@selfaccountable3464 other teams have done it before so it isn’t cheating

@jeffadventures1 Ай бұрын

as a Vegas fans... we LOVE the haters! hugs guys!!!

@unclebitchie Ай бұрын

So classy of you to end that very entertaining and thoughtful video with a tribute to the late, great Bob Cole. I, too, remember growing up with his commentary and am sorry to hear of his passing. I have so much more to say about the Las Vegas Injured Reserves, whom I hate as much as everyone else does, but I guess you've said it all already. So thank you for saluting a hockey legend.

@adamryan7703 29 күн бұрын

You honestly have the best content out there..thank you!

@hootiehome Ай бұрын

Great job!!

@Lakingsfan140 Ай бұрын

It isn’t against the rules yet 11 teams got penalized for being over the cap except Vegas. Something is fishy here.

@ChippyHOCKEY2552 Ай бұрын

My top 5 least favorite teams 5.Vegas Golden knights 4.Vegas Golden Knights 3.Vegas Golden Knights 2.Vegas Golden Knights 1.Vegas Golden Knights

@Middyman43 Ай бұрын

Honorable mention goes to the Vegas Golden Knights

@collasalbot7900 Ай бұрын

@@Middyman43you forgot the Vegas golden knights😭

@DiogenesTheCynic. Ай бұрын

You are coping Coping and seething You just can't accept what you're seeing Yes, you're coping Coping and seething The truth it is scalding And now you are malding And coping Coping so hard 😂😂😂😂😂

@soulknife20 Ай бұрын

@@DiogenesTheCynic. What are you? 12?

@ChippyHOCKEY2552 Ай бұрын

@@DiogenesTheCynic. what?

@garylau702 Ай бұрын

13 out of 16 playoff teams are currently over the cap. To assume that Vegas is the only team doing this is not accurate.

@user-qr5rz3xg4q Ай бұрын

Tampa used to do this as well with their players. It’s not just Vegas. If people don’t like it, then the NHL needs to change the rules. Until then, teams will keep doing it.

@Nahash5150 Ай бұрын

Waiting for Benn to deliver the cross-check we all want to see again.

@neeltheother2342 Ай бұрын

And then get suspended for the remainder of the series, aka 1 game.

@DiogenesTheCynic. Ай бұрын

And give Vegas more LTIR money? You sure about that?

@Mizuxes Ай бұрын

Dallas, always classy in losing.

@butterbutter-zp7ie Ай бұрын

He'll probably fake another untouched fall first.

@rsuninv Ай бұрын

Wanting a player hurt while screaming LTIR Cheats isn’t a good look slick. You’re obviously emotionally immature and a super fan of Dirty Dallas Fans throwing popcorn. Stay classy, even if you can’t.

@soulknife20 Ай бұрын

Even without Stone, Hertl, and Hanafin, the Knights would still be beating the snot out of the Stars. Like the Stars had a really easy final stretch compared to the Jets and Avs.

@chairmanofthebored6860 Ай бұрын

Uh ok bud.

@soulknife20 Ай бұрын

@@chairmanofthebored6860 Not wrong.

@JT-yl9yt 29 күн бұрын

Hanifin literally scored in a 2-1 win both games Stars had a chance advantage in shots and now got creamed in game 3 while Vegas goalie stood on his head and still lost. All of those guys have been big contributors you cannot be this ignorant.

@TJ89741 Ай бұрын

Don’t blame VGK blame the NHL.

@benjaminstrawson1442 Ай бұрын

I learn so much from your videos. Sportsnet should take a lesson here, it's more then just showing highlights. Good stuff my dude. Go Oilers.

@guruntbangoo5686 Ай бұрын

What's even worse, is they shoot pucks at the opponent's net after they pull their goalie. It's like cheating! They can't keep getting away with it!

@isaiahaguilera7710 Ай бұрын

🤣

@DiogenesTheCynic. Ай бұрын

Oh nooooooo 😂

@travzimmerman1340 Ай бұрын

They've literally done nothing wrong. Some GMs are playing chess while most are playing checkers.

@CJ-1776 Ай бұрын

Riiight. Cuz no other professional GM could ever figure out what a bunch of dipshit fans easily can. Everyone knows ‘how’ to do this. Vegas chooses to do so and most other teams don’t. You can agree or disagree with either philosophy but this ain’t rocket science man.

@sports2hedz542 Ай бұрын

Definitely one way of looking at it. Lacks integrity and no one would bat an eye if this was purely the corporate world. But it's not. It's a corporation...but it is also professional sports. Where the integrity of a sport and a code of honor tends to be held hallow. I am fairly indifferent personally, being a part of that corporate world. But fans pay a good chunk of the bills in this sport and a lot of them are not happy.

@armstrongaddy1155 Ай бұрын

@sports2hedz542 boo hoo fans are crybabies

@R6W2 Ай бұрын

@@armstrongaddy1155when it’s not their team doing it right, they complain

@kattankarl Ай бұрын

Some GMs are playing fairly and some have no shame* But all GMs should start cheating aswell so this loophole gets fixed

@RobdaVegasMailman Ай бұрын

4:50 LTIR = Logan Thompson Is Ridiculous.

@boadee Ай бұрын

The fact that Mark Stone was injured and put in the work to come back is a GFY to every NHL fan that hates him. He’s the best at what he does. Has everyone forgot that last year VGK was arguably the strongest team in the league during the regular? You create some interesting psychology with the LTIR references; you tip your bias but we love you anyway. VGK won the cup by sticking to the system and staying disciplined, especially during the Edmonton series. If anyone knocks them off they will have earned it. We are Vegas strong and we put in the work. Everything else is excuses.

@andyholland2130 Ай бұрын

Not even a Vegas fan but everyone that complains about it comes off like a toddler having a tantrum. Mark Stone is their best player. A team doesn't purposely sit out their captain and best player to hope they can win enough games to make the playoffs with the reinforcements they added with the cap space. Any other team could've been aggressive and gone for Hertl too. Last year, they never iced a team in a single playoff game that was over the cap. Stop complaining and complain that your own teams GM cares more about his own job security than making his team better. The NHL is never going to change the LTIR rule. It has to be done during CBA negotiations and I doubt the owners, gms or the players care to change it. Stop whining about it and move on.

@borrow4654 Ай бұрын

Youll be hard pressed to make NHL fans believe that not having a salary cap in the playoffs isnt stupid as fuck. Surely you dont believe that yourself if you have any cognitive capacity

@CodeRedGraphics Ай бұрын

@@borrow4654even if the cap was implemented for playoffs it wouldn't matter. Like he said, last year when Vegas won the team on the ice was cap compliant. Even this year I believe Vegas was cap compliant game 1 and would have probably been compliant game 2 if Martinez was scratched again.

@borrow4654 Ай бұрын

@@CodeRedGraphics i guess thats true...just means you can load up on a few assets if you end up losing players to injury which is fair. Good luck preventing players from returning to play of they become healthy. Still would be a step in the right direction if you HAD to play a salary cap compliant team though.

@andyholland2130 Ай бұрын

@@borrow4654 I don't want a salary cap period. But you don't want a salary cap in the playoffs either if you actually thought about the consequences. And it doesn't matter if you do because the owners and Gms for sure as hell don't because they are aware of the consequences and don't want them.

@HalfNHalf. Ай бұрын

You said everything I've been thinking. The complaining is getting old. They're mad at the wrong people aka the golden knights

@akashdeephothi4137 Ай бұрын

Hopefully the stars can make a comeback!!

@StinkyBoy5.11 Ай бұрын

Maybe 😂

@tjyankowich7082 Ай бұрын

Good vid bro, I think your the best hockey KZfaqr

@coogan5729 Ай бұрын

Can't fault 'em because, ya know, Chicago & Tampa, but it sucks to hear the owners, presidents, gms, etc. reportedly don't think its a problem and are ignoring fan sentiment. Mark Stone has always been one of the most impressive defensive players of the past decade. When he went to Vegas, I was ecstatic. Not only had I become a fan of Stone for his play through tough Ottawa times, but I was an even bigger Vegas fan for the misfit tenacity from year one and how legitimate they were from the get go. Almost exciting to hate them now.

@lambknot Ай бұрын

Salt mine in here.

@avdmustang Ай бұрын

Vegas is like the beer league team that dresses ringers when playoffs start.

@hardware1197 Ай бұрын

Time to rename the channel: Hockey Psychiatry - Based on the social media reaction from the Victor E. Greenies you should send them a bill for this piece of therapy….awesome job pointing out the *real* reason the VGK are running over Dallas while at the same time making them feel like it’s not their coach’s fault.

@Ando2k10 Ай бұрын

Stone was out for eight weeks, for an injury/surgery that had a typical recuperation period of four to six weeks. Because of past allegations with Chicago and Kane, Tampa and Kucherov, I'd guarantee that the NHL was double checking Stone's situation to ensure it was legitimate. The LTIR rule is a good rule as it allows teams to take action to maintain a level of success when someone's out long term, because it allows them to call up players from the minors, or make trades or signings to fill the roster back up. If that player comes back, off of LTIR, then the team has to do some shuffling or dealing to get back under the cap. One reasonable way to fix this would be for players that were on LTIR at the end of the season to be prohibited from playing in the first round of the playoffs. Another would be to implement a salary cap for the post season.

@vaughnjohnson5484 Ай бұрын

You’ve gotta play the game you’re in! This is NOT AGAINST THE RULES. Can you imagine a professional soccer team NEVER trying to sell a penalty because it’s dumb? They do that, because it has become part of the game itself. Don’t hate Vegas just because they are better at maximizing their success within the rules. I don’t like it either, but they are hardly the only ones that do it. To the haters, the only crime is that they do it better than YOUR team.

@liljoe31 Ай бұрын

True but Vegas Derangement is real. Talking to these folks is a waste of time my friend

@toke7342 Ай бұрын

Sure, but then i hope i dont hear a word from you when a player like Marchand does something...

@Spewf Ай бұрын

OW Mah SPLEEEN!....whats that playoffs ok all better

@928frogman Ай бұрын

Solid analysis, +1 sub.

@jimlewis1992 Ай бұрын

Pete Deboer getting out coached as usual

@thomas10101 Ай бұрын

Vegas beating Dallas this year is nothing new. They won all 3 regular season games.

@merksmovies25 Ай бұрын

Dallas winning the series

@dstefaniuk5741 Ай бұрын

@@merksmovies25in what world is Dallas beating a team that’s miles better than them

@merksmovies25 Ай бұрын

@@dstefaniuk5741 it’s hockey playoffs, anything can happen. Maybe dallas hasnt reached their peak or vegas will take their foot off the gas believing they already won the series

@dstefaniuk5741 Ай бұрын

@@merksmovies25 this Vegas team is very similar to their cup winning team, I can’t pinpoint exactly who left, but Smith was the big one, however adding Hertl and Hanafin doesn’t take away the mentality of the team so I don’t think that’ll be an issue

@merksmovies25 Ай бұрын

@@dstefaniuk5741 yeah smith was the only one that left. You’re right. But maybe vegas will be so cocky thinking the solved dallas after dominating in the wcf last year, sweeping the season this year, and now winning these two games. I can see vegas taking their foot off tha gas allowing dallas to find their game and dominate

@untoxify1080 Ай бұрын

People dont know that the lightning and leafs have more LTIR used and overall cap used, but we wanna shift all our attention to vegas because their the better team?

@SleepBomber Ай бұрын

Exactly

@DiogenesTheCynic. Ай бұрын

They are mad over Hanifin and Hertl, the cap space is an excuse

@liljoe31 Ай бұрын

Theyre definitely mad about something arent they

@garyelder4610 Ай бұрын

Have those teams had the same player go out 3 years in a row and then rebuilt their team with that cap space only to have the LTIR player come back?

@DiogenesTheCynic. Ай бұрын

@@garyelder4610 It wasnt 3 times, guess you are just another room temp IQ headline reader only

@SulliverVittles Ай бұрын

Honestly a shame how Vegas is the only one over the cap and doing so well. Wait, two other teams are even more over cap? And not doing as well? Weird how that works.

@hudlsports Ай бұрын

Is it me or does Mark Stone look like Lord Farquad from Shrek?

@dstefaniuk5741 Ай бұрын

😂I’m a Vegas fan and that’s too accurate. Time to make an edit

@caperboy1169 Ай бұрын

They’re not breaking any rules

@devinlapointe6257 Ай бұрын

They're breaking everyone's hearts though and pissing everyone off

@caperboy1169 Ай бұрын

@@devinlapointe6257 than they should do the same.

@DigitalHayds Ай бұрын

Yes they are. LTIR stands for long term injury reserve. Hope this helps

@HopefulNihilist 29 күн бұрын

@@DigitalHayds If they're breaking the rules then why isn't the League punishing them? And the Leafs?? And Tampa?? And every other Team that's over the cap??

@DigitalHayds 29 күн бұрын

@@HopefulNihilist for the same reason congressmen practice insider trading, it’s a conflict of interest. Also do you know how much money Vegas makes the league?

@moharikram1687 Ай бұрын

Personally for me, I don't get mad at VGK LTIR shenanigans. VGK did LTIR what is suppose to do - Give a leeway for players who injured during middle of the season that will prevent them from playing for all the rest of the season (Stones played 56 games this year and got a spleen injury). Same as Hawks did in 15 where Kane played 61 games and we saw him fall injured in the game. Tampa is the villain with Kucherov shenanigans in 20/21. He did not play a single game yet the LTIR still active. They also got dead contract such as Gaborik and Seabrook to extend the leeway. Tampa should be the one we condemn. Not VGK or Hawks. VGK and Hawks use the system properly. Tampa GAME the system.

@ethanparker7900 Ай бұрын

seabrooks contract didnt come till after 2021 and kucherov was actually hurt.

@DiogenesTheCynic. Ай бұрын

@@ethanparker7900 So was Mark Stone. All of you are the conspiritards claiming he wasn't. And no, Kucherov timed his surgery to miss the whole regular season. He played with that injury the season before.

@kjoeyb. Ай бұрын

They all gamed it. Cope bandwagoner

@kattankarl Ай бұрын

Are you the only guy VGK fooled? Second year in a row they are abusing a loophole.

@ethanparker7900 Ай бұрын

@@DiogenesTheCynic. from what I heard that injury was first sustained in the bubble over the summer

@Sharks4Cup408 23 күн бұрын

>Vegas whenever they openly and brazenly circumvent the salary cap every year "I'll fuckin' do it again"

@doogan5875 Ай бұрын

Based on the title I thought this was gonna be a Vegas are cheaters sob story but this is some impressive tape breakdown. You've gained a follower in me

@ThunderStruck94660 27 күн бұрын

I saw Vegas fans complaining about ricocheting a puck off a goalie's head....ha ha ha

@guccilibrarian4728 Ай бұрын

I might be the only fan outside of Vegas that wants them to win, and it's really only because the Stars are my least favorite team. Also, what they're doing is pretty cheeky, but it is literally NOT cheating. Any team can do it. People gotta stop complaining for no reason

@BrodyJones-fp2bb Ай бұрын

As a knights fan I do understand where the hate is coming from but then again I don’t as we are just using the rules to our advantages and our gm is crazy

@toke7342 Ай бұрын

That's because you're not a real hockey fan.

@thewat3rcompany Ай бұрын

Well said, as usual. This can spell real trouble for the league & reward the lack of loyalty in players like Eichel. The players reluctant to stay with franchises stand to benefit too much from this team's philosophy unless other teams match it

@danyelbugaev2044 29 күн бұрын

Outstanding video

@FlightIsLife Ай бұрын

People acting like LTIR shenanigans are a new thing Vegas is doing. The league didn't start in 2017. All the hate is just cope because an expansion team is having so much success while the leafs still can't score a goal

@TreySarver Ай бұрын

The faking injuries part is new

@DiogenesTheCynic. Ай бұрын

Leafs, Canucks, all of Canada actually, Sabres, anyone that hasn't won a cup in the last billion years.

@blastimbre Ай бұрын

@@TreySarver Are you seriously delusional enough to think they faked a lacerated spleen? You understand that the NHL's doctors have to check with the injured player, right? This process isn't as simple as you want to believe. There is a pretty extensive process behind the LTIR.

@kjoeyb. Ай бұрын

We all hated Tampa and Chicago for doing it. Trust me, it has nothing to do with it being an expansion team. We had this discourse for Tampa too. Now it’s a third dynasty doing this BS? We are DONE!

@krakenspectacor Ай бұрын

@@TreySarverinjuries are confirmed by the league. At least you came out the gate admitting ignorance

@cackoocacho1629 Ай бұрын

Getting away with what? Following the rules? If people want the rules changed and fixed, then bark at the league. Insulting the team that uses the means they can to win, will lead nowhere. Fix the rules, and Vegas will never be able to do it again. Quite simple.

@liljoe31 Ай бұрын

But then their teams wont be able to stack the roster too so it wont happen

@trevmac8362 Ай бұрын

And the bottom line to an absolute ,undisputed, 100% irrefutable certainty is the Golden Knights broke no LTIR rules at all. General Manager Kelly McCrimmon said he is “the winning business, not the hockey business" McCrimmon and his team understand what the CBA says and how to operate within those guidelines. Other fan bases should ask why their team’s GM is not doing the same. Everyone has the same playing field. Not to mention, half the clubs this season operated in LTIR because of the flat cap. Anyone who accuses the Knights organization of cheating are prime examples of sour grapes. Any idiot who thinks they somehow cheated are perpetuating a false phantom narrative. The club followed the rules to a "T" Period