Reverse Uno card. I died laughing.

damn, how was he with the puck and still managed to see that coming...

​@@joe_cannot_dance they call him the magic man for a reason 🙌

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straight out of a cartoon. i'd have a picture of that contact hanging above my fireplace 😂

and how slow they go into the corner to retrieve a puck and don't look behind them or move. blows my mind

@@Trayne You would feel like it would be the opposite considering how fast the game has become, but for some reason these guys get the puck in the corner and are not expecting someone to come check them. A lot of times a defender will pivot the wrong way as the rusher is coming in, putting themselves in an awkward position and instead of trying to absorb the hit, they just put themselves in more danger. Just viewing this video, a large portion are coming under the goal line and in the corners. Only thing I could think about to resolve this issue is developing a rule for checking when around these areas. Also if they truly want to protect their players from serious injury, they will need to start handing out tougher and more consistent punishments for the charging/hit to the head penalties.

@@Trayne remember touch icings as a young defensemen. What a thrill skating as hard as you can to meet your doom!

They cannot step up or finish forechecks or they will get penalty

I'm amazed how many crosschecks, slashes, elbows and hits from behind never get called. The league is getting dirtier because of the game management from the refs. Once the players figure out who the refs are favoring it's open season for headhunting. How in the world are they supposed to brace for checks when they're getting elbowed if they try to take it clean? The refs and Bettman are the problem. The players have no idea what's a penalty so they can't just go out and play they're always trying to calculate their odds of a cheapshot because the refs are looking the other way. I've lost count of the times I've seen a ref looking directly at a headshot or a highstick turn his head away so he doesn't see it. The league is a freaking joke, worse, it's corrupt.

And yet people still didn't always protect themselves then and still got rocked on these hits just as much as today. This is not a 'new' problem that the league is facing today. It's ALWAYS been in the league.

I didnt play anything but net for 18 straight years of hockey. and yes. even i knew how to take and recieve a hit. you had to if you were gonna play the puck

Hitting makes it so unskilled hockey players can equalize with those who out skate and deke them. it wont go away until penalty's double and fines are introduced. top 3 best hockeys games are games where theres no intentional hits and its all skill.

Jagr was the man. He would be the GOAT had he not lost 4 years cleanly in his career to lockouts / shutdowns

Always felt that the labeling of Crosby as a "crybaby" was a little unfair. Half of the young guys in the league today owe their style of play to him and wouldn't have been able to do it in the beginning of his era.

Crosbey had to retire due to concussions

@@YdoIneedahandle869what are you on about? Crosby’s still playing and is in top form right now. Do you watch the game, or just comment on the internet?

​@@yeah-sn7jvhave you ever watched his career? He's an all-time crybaby. They literally started enforcing diving because everybody started copying him.

Don't blame the refs. They are put into impossible situation by the owners, GM's and coaches, as well as the league from other side. Most penalties nowadays are set to a standard where it is easy to say yes or no to a penalty. Hits along the boards is not. There the range of things which that have to take into consideration is just way too wide to make all hits easy to call. It was way easier when harder and more dangerous hits were allowed. Other way is to call almost every hit a penalty. Both would be easy. But it is not how hockey is supposed to be played.

@@RoyalMelaSorry dude, but if you think there is an easy standard that everyone goes with your just not watching the game. A slash is a slash... unless it's late in the game, or the other team is on the PP, or the team already has had 4pps to the others 1. Or... whatever. Consistency is the biggest issue within NHL officiating and the DPS, hands down.

Players are taught to hit as hard as possible to injure their opponents, and to use the boards as weapons. There's no other reason than to injure your opponent to hit as hard (and high) as possible. You can "separate the body from the puck" without sending someone into the concussion protocol. But this is what coaches want, and what players do. I agree, the NHL DPS needs to x10 suspensions, ditch the fines altogether, and start meting out punishments for these hits from behind/slewfoots (dangerous trips!), crosschecks to downed opponents, etc. If you make in painful and make it consistent, the players will stop doing these idiotic things (barring that guy who gets called up from the AHL for the sole purpose of attacking your next opponents star player).

You're not wrong...player safety is laughable with their suspensions...it's literally like playing a slot machine in terms of what punishments they assign to hits... Zero consistency

​@@ericweeks8386do you play hockey??? Mist if these players are friends... Shut the fck up if you dont know what you're talking bout

if 150 kilogram psycho comes trying to kill me in wall i would move

I honestly think watching skilled players evade hits is one of the most impressive aspects of the game. Watching a Datsyuk dangle a guy while simultaneously evading a hit is so much better than just the crazy dangles of today but no threat

He learned from the best. Showtime was rarely touched.

Jaromir Jagr would toy any player today with these wobbly skaters

He's almost going backwards and forwards at the same time, loves to take fadeaway shots

Couldn't agree more, it's a sad path the game has taken in that regard

Suomi mainittu

No nice parenting i would say! I played Icehockey for 15 years and i learned: you can be aware as much as you can, but if some psycho on skates wants to smash you, he will find a way!!!

Meillä opetettiin/opeteltiin taklaamista ja kuinka ottaa se vastaan mun muistaakseni 13-14 ikäsenä

Whenever I go see my family in Oulu, I always try go to a few games, we don't get much ice hockey in Australia lol. Kärpät forever

Wow - completely forgot about this. I was a small player and this was always brutal. Kept my feet moving and 50% of my teammate would mistime the hit.

This is how i learnt, you entered the zone and took the hit or gave the hit

I’m very confused why we were taught this and players that have played for 10-15 years have gone against this. Crazy to me

Was my favorite drill probably🤣

@joelheise1916 It was definitely mine and I'm a goalie 😂

The Hughes brothers are all undersized and can't take a hit.

@@captbloodbeardluke is 6’2😭 guessing u mean weight tho

@@ziippolighter yeah, I meant weight mostly, but Quinn and Jack are under 6ft and I know Luke's official height is listed 6'2" but he seems shorter but who knows

@@captbloodbeard fair, i’m sure it’s not always accurate

@@captbloodbeardas a Canucks fan I can’t say Q. Hughes has stood out to me as someone particularly good or bad at taking a hit. If anything I’d figure he’s pretty good at avoiding getting rocked given that although he’s smaller than a lot of his opponents and an obvious target that’s rarely an issue with oncoming hits. For lightweights on the team I’d say Pettersson takes more contact but is also more adept than most at leaning into the hitter, which I don’t doubt has been learned out of necessity.

Do you genuinely see the first hit, the one from last weeks BuffaloMontreal game, as problematic from the standpoint of the guy laying the body into his man..? The puck carrier makes a deliberate move to center himself between the puck and his man with zero lateral movement & no movement of the puck whatsoever; that's textbook delay of game, short of stopping the puck in its tracks. The conversations that start around this topic just hurt my brain... I understand the sentiment here, and watched long enough to see some highlights that are genuinely problematic (especially Pasta & Kane)... But Robinson literally hit the brakes before even hitting his man. That sticks out from all the rest, and this goon managed an entire thematic video essay without even noting any difference between the hits. This is the very serious issue; bundling up 10 highlights to make some grandiose statement as opposed to addressing incidents case-by-case as should be customary & efficient. Robinson approached his man from behind, hit the brakes, waited for him to choose a side, and initiated contact without throwing a body check. Throwing your arms forward is an arms check, boarding match penalties do not typically get handed out for arms checks. The guy literally had one hand off the stick PLAYING THE PUCK. By the NHL rules this is genuinely textbook in terms of what they say you're 'allowed' to do on the boards there as a forechecker.

@@thewat3rcompany sort of...but, any time you see the numbers, you should hit the guy from the side. In a 'kids' league, he would of being thrown out of the the game.

What team in level did you play in the GTHL because I played for Bulldogs GTHL

@@thewat3rcompany I have no problem with that first Buffalo/Montreal hit, but "textbook delay of game" on the puck carrier? The puck is loose and in play.

Single A in the GTHL is non-contact for all ages. I’ve seen a few games and its obvious that the kids are not protecting themselves around the boards. Even in open ice, they don’t seem to be aware of the potential for a collision or incidental contact. The play is slow, so the odds of something major happening is low. NCAA womens hockey is non-contact, yet has an extremely high concussion rate. Safe to say that their game is significantly faster than boys single A, and perhaps blending “non-contact hockey habits” with a faster, more competitive hockey environment is the reason for such a high concussion rate. I think non-contact single A is a good idea and that its important for the higher levels (AA AAA) to keep hitting in the game, to prepare kids for Junior, Collegiate or Pro. Considering that players can move onto Junior as young as age 16, I think hitting should start in U13.

Not that good 😂

Yup! MacKinnon is the best after Crosby :)

Mcdavid is the best player in the NHL today and if he continues to play at this level he will be ahead of Crosby on the all-time list... @@tddongtv

Big reason why Colorado won the cup too.

@@thomasjames9678 Colorados defence were practically the opposite. They just had defence who could steal a puck and make a rush in a matter of seconds so fast the other team could catch them.

@@greathoonta3461 Makar, Toews and Byram yes. I was concerned when Girard was playing that this was going to be an issue, then he got injured and was replaced by J.Johnson. To be honest, I think it was a blessing in disguise as they didn't have enough physicality on D and it showed. J.Johnson, E.Johnson and Manson all were heavy hitters, not necessarily the heaviest but it was their job. Makar was also stepping up in this area as well. So they had 4 solid hitters on D alone. Nobody like Trouba, Gudas or Zadorov but their job was to hit.

Agreed. I’d go as far as to say the Norris is now an award for best offensive defenseman, instead of best defensemen.

I mean it helps when you can play like that and the refs won't call any penalties olagainst your team.

Yeah, lets play bandy.

Agree. It's better on slightly bigger ice.

Olympic/World Championships sized Ice rink? I mean one My local High school level has for their league in South Dakota in Pierre (Pier) is almost the size of minimum dimensions now for NHL and is size of old Bunis rink when it was smaller in a slower game.

They're trying to get the puck, maybe people shouldn't check with their head down

you can get the puck without your face to the boards.......@@coastaku1954

Like it was said in the video - the *rules* say playing the puck facing the boards at a distance *is* the optimal play. NHL players are going to try to milk every advantage out of the rules that they can, so is it really a surprise that they are going to play this way when the rules are telling them its the "better" way to play. I don't think its necessarily a hitting or not knowing how to receive hits issue - its that the rules are saying one thing when we want hockey to be something else... and honestly its a tough situation cause it is dangerous so you want those hits to be penalized but at the same time those penalties reward playing that way. Like ironically, making boarding not a penalty might be the best solution that way players are forced into playing around the boards better. And then just somehow have a way to penalize intentionally dirty hits

@@coastaku1954 what the fuck are you saying? Getting the puck without presenting your back is very possible. And who is checking with their heads down? No one and I mean no one checks with their head down

@@grahamschmuland1977 I agree. The rules have forced coaches to teach players to draw a penalty vs growing up a penalty was you being lazy. Now it’s finding every way to bend the rules. It really sucks cause we lose players early into their careers due to injury.

beat me to this comment. guys have their head down too often and are either not expecting to get hit or get so upset after a good check you'd think they were NBA players getting a tap on the arm.

Exactly. Like even if you take physicality of it, dudes are skating so damn fast collisions are practically inevitable even if hits arent intended, and you have to know how to deal with it one way or the other

and more importantly, don't turn your back to the guy barreling down on you

Exactly this is hockey hits are going to happen clean or dirty people need to stop acting like it hasn’t always been a physical sport.

​@@thatonelonghairedguy764 more like football players who overreact to the slightest tap on their shoulder

women's hockey = NHL, no hitting allowed

Neanderthal thinking bud. There’s an issue where clubs and leagues in various sports are starting to get sued for long term injuries for failing to protect players. And this is fair enough. How would you like if your kid was fucked at 30 because everyone salivates at a blood sport? A check in context is fine, but hitting (especially to the head) off the puck or when a player isn’t expecting it is going to be phased out. Being an old fart and screaming ‘it’s a sissy’s game now’ is just moronic when players long term health is at stake.

I was in Croatia in 2014 at a KHL game and I walked out because the entire game was just like this. It honestly bothered me so much to watch I bailed and said to myself thank God the NHL will never be like this. Well, here we are… 😔

And people wonder why someone who loved the the game more than life doesn't watch it anymore.

@@mdipltd7404 because they like to see young men acquire life long injuries? Nice.

And the junior leagues are starting to ban fighting leaving young players with the mindset that dirty illegal hits are the only form of retaliation

I heard that Rail Road companies take a hit on their insurance when they hit cars on crossings, so I park there at night now.

If they did put a stop sign on the back of every jersey no would notice it. Skating in at 25 MPH+ gives a lot of room for error. It's a fast game.

@@Stabsnipersthese kids are standing the danger zone with their backs turned to defenders. They'd be stretchered off the ice if they stood there a decade ago. They have no idea how to protect themselves

@@carlsoto1747 Or maybe, just maybe, these kids just want to shoot pucks, get goals, make plays, and have fun, instead of having their shit rocked. What happened to sportsmanship and skill? Now it's just "You weren't anticipating a hit? Well it's your fault!". It's like making kids go to school anticipating hits and wearing armour, clearly there is a problem with the school if they need all that just the survive

The great ones can feel those checks coming and still 'head-man" the puck, take hits to make a play, & often 'roll' off of hits and maintain puck possession. I've watched Crosby his entire career, and yes he was concussed, (Badly so with small tissue damage & neck problems) but he 'absorbs' hits and makes plays as well as anyone ever to do it

Size for sure. But younger would be better as the speeds are slower. Bring hitting back to peewees.

Yep, sometimes taking the hit keeps you in the game.

Half of the knee on knee hits that happen are exactly for this reason

Honestly it’s such an issue. I made a hit and the person tried to dodge so instead of me hitting dead center of their chest it was their head. They got taken to the hospital for the hit even the coach of the other team told me it was their players fault for not knowing how to take a hit

​@@user-cl2jx8nm7s It's not your fault. It's part of a bad trend in the game itself. The saddest thing is not the lack of training nor any one particular injury. The saddest thing will be the day it is announced that fighting, and then hitting is taken out of the game for "being too dangerous" when the reality will be that that change is only the culmination of three decades of poor instruction fueled by bad thinking; evading the many decades where our modern "problems" were not occurring at all. Until that day, shamelessly enjoy what you can while you can.

This. Concussions are over vilified nowadays anyways. They aren’t as serious as people make them out to be.

There aren't many enforcers in the league anymore. If you banged somebody into the boards years ago you could be sure to receive similar retaliation. Now not so much.

Not true...there was a ton of terrible incidents done back in the day. And, this from the guy who threw his elbows around like crazy when he played. There never has been a price to pay, except maybe a fight here or there...not a big deal, in any era. The players were not as big or as fast back then as they are now though.

@@JoelER78 Ask Ted Green about using his stick on players. He got his. Yes, there were nasty incidents back then, but hits to the head were avoided as much as possible. No helmets, remember?? How big and fast now is not relevant to then. The players then were all approximately the same size and they were very skilled at the game.

the 70-80s bruins were nicknamed the Big Bad Bruins for a reason. couldn't shoot to save their lives but would just kill the opposing team

Its also alarming how people don't use punctuation in their sentences.

The NHL did this. They made incentives for players to draw penalties 10 years ago. The NHL sped the game up by changing a bunch of rules then told the players to turn their backs and take it up the ass

I’m curious, what year(s) and where you were playing? I played a few seasons of AA, AAA and then finished up in a house league where hitting was permitted in North Van, BC, 2004-2010. Hitting became a part of things when I was 13 in 2007ish. From age 11 we were taught to protect ourselves. An opponent isn’t supposed to run you from behind, but they fuckin might so don’t give them the chance.

​@@Captain.Dingus not the poster, but i started playing in '87 when i was 5 and i 11 (peewee), the first thing we were taught was how to throw a hit, how to take a hit/never turn your back to a hit and to NEVER hit a guy when you see his #s. Its crazy those basic skills arent taught anymore

@@Captain.Dingus Wiat you played in a house League where there was hitting because for the Etobicoke hockey League for house League there was no hitting but for Bulldogs and Etobicoke Canucks there was hitting

I come from a martial arts background. I was doing full contact sparring at 11😂 It's a little crazy to me that we are going to introduce bodychecking just 3 years before our kids could go pro? That's a recipe for disaster man.

Insightful post, nice!

Well forehand or backhand shouldnt matter because you should be able to gather information before reaching the puck and decide to keep going forward to avoid the forechecker instead of trying to go the other way which takes more time and makes you turn your back to the incoming forechecker. It used to be standard practice. Every defenseman should gather his information before reaching the puck by turning his head and ideally the second defenseman should call the play but since you never wanna fully rely on someone else you should gather your own info regardless. Forechecker is at a certain distance : Go, Over since the forechecker needs time to catchup you keep the play fast to stay ahead of them. if the forechecker is close : Reverse, Over or Hard (so you move the puck and brace for the hit if the forechecker is cheating the middle THEN you can call Up so you dont move the puck in his direction. You dont call Up if the forechecker is at that 10 feet distance right behind your defenseman because he will get laid out while changing direction. You learn that by Atom or Pee-wee AT WORSE and it should be automatic before bodychecks come in in Bantam. But you see shit like the Tanev hit where the lacking part is his information gathering he never knew number 20 was coming because he never turned his head to gather the info and we can assume his other defenseman never called him anything either. I dont recall the layout of the game i that moment but it seems like an obvious Over or Hard call because 2 players are forechecking on the same side so you wanna move the puck to the other side where your second defenseman should be and where you'll have numbers to leave the zone. Not turn around into the 1st forechecker while a second forechecker is coming at you like there was no end play there. Even if he didnt get laid out where was he going ?

@@jeanjacques9365 Watch the full play, not just the clip, forehand and backhand do matter. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g62hg7Ofz87IZIk.html The puck gets dumped in and around the boards. Avs forward wins the initial race and taps it below the goalline. Avs have that initial forechecker, another player coming down through the middle and a 3rd forechecker coming around the net chasing Tanev's D partner. At about 4 seconds of the video, Tanev does do a shoulder check and sees 2 Avs coming down, plus he already knows about the one who just tapped the puck behind the net. He can't backhand the puck behind the net because he's basically giving a grenade to his partner with 2 Avs on him. He can maybe try and feather the puck to the Flames forward in the middle, but that's pretty risky. So he instead tries to make the forehand play which has a better chance of getting to the Flames winger on the boards. If he's a lefty instead of a righty, he skates in and puts it hard around behind the net, absorbing the contact from the side. But because he's a righty, he's got to turn to reverse the puck the other way. It's kind of insane we're blaming this on "kids not hitting early enough" or "NHL players are too stupid to look"... like maybe that's not the problem guys. They are elite level hockey players.

I would have bet my life the trapezoid would be eliminated within 3 years when they first implemented it. Seemed idiotic back then and still feels the same. All it did was create a bunch of dangerous situations where defenders are retrieving pucks goalies used to. If anything it slows the game down for the Brodeur types who can handle the puck well but it also removed the plays where the dumb goalie is wandering and screws up which were always entertaining. Both aspects were better without it. There is no plus to having it. But of course its Betman's baby.

I'd add 4. The Instigator Penalty

@@wheelsupbardown Investigator 😂😂

I play hockey at 14, and I am always careful on the ice. I am one of the bigger kids, so I use my weight as a advantage and I love to throw my weight around and hit people down. I can tell that the other kids don't expect hits, and they dont hit that much.

I think this is a point raised in the video, on the one hand we should train kids earlier. But studies show those hits and the potential brain injuries, while terrible at any age, are a much bigger PR problem at younger ages. And as the other commenter here attests, it seems questionable to give earlier ages, with uneven physical let alone mental development, the legitimate use of violence. I'm not against hitting in hockey, but it's not as black and white as "we need to teach them younger."

I'm 27, few weeks older than McDavid. I remeber one training, when i was 12, we just bumped to each other as much as we could. 4 guys in neutral zone trying to catch 1 player with only body and that one just bracing himself to cross the second blue line. Why? From 13, we had phisical league so we needed to learn how to protect ourselfs...... Half of the hits on this video are not mistakes, but carelessness.....

Where did you play? We started hitting in Atom (today’s U11) in the 90s where I played. I was small to and then between midget and bantam I grew from 5’7 150 pounds to 6’3 and 235 pounds and would destroy guys in the no fly zones

@@YerDaddY. Slovakia, we were actually second to last year where it was allowed at that age, kids born '99 and later could physically play from 15 y.o. I'm dec. '96, so it was in 2010

I'll be extremely honest with you, ok?. People wants to see some action in this sport. Without this the fans would immediately lose interest and they'll stop buying our products... If a player dies, it's just an other great opportunity for us to make some cash on this story. We don't care about players health and we also don't care about the fans, they're both stinky and extremely dumb. We only care about our bank account and making sure it keeps filling up! LOL

@@Alfred-Neuman Not true. People want to see goals and thrilling plays, amazing individual displays of skill. Violence may have been some kind of a selling point back in the day when the hockey culture in general was vastly different. Just look at how many McDavid fan products are sold every year, and he's never been known for his physicality. Or how the Blackhawks got a massive boost from drafting Bedard, who's setting the league on fire not with his fists but his wrists.

@@tt128556 I think he's being sarcastic.

Mathew Barnaby - Keith Primeau - Darren McCarty Darius Kasparaitis - Ed Jovanovski this 5 man line can crush any NHL top team these days with the checking and defense.

@@tt128556hitting isn’t violent, it’s part of the defensive aspect of the game

Obsoard?

Did you also forget the “ take a hit to make a play “ rule? This is just soft fans crying about hits that existed forever

agree. look at the D guy at 0:01 he is 2 feet from the boards, standing , not moving and holding the puck. If i was him, and would watch this, I would be very upset with myself. 10 -20 years ago he would have been killed

@@chriz9959 if he makes a habit of giving up the puck in that possession he will be out of the league to a defender who doesn’t. Take a hit to make a play or someone else will.

Im 22 and we werent allowed to hit until bantam

@@rawbhd4477 I’m 60 with a kid in midget. Grew up playing hockey in the 70’s. Hitting needs to be part of the game earlier not later combined with better coaching and training around contact. This would better prepare the kids for bantam.

I’m 30 and got through not long before they moved it back to bantam. Hitting started in peewees for me. I always said they should have moved it forward to squirts if anything. For all the reasons he described but also 10 year olds are more close in size with each other compared to 15 year olds

They could start them hitting younger if they were able to organize kids/youth hockey by weight class. Until maybe 14/15. Some kids just mature so much faster than others. I remember some giants out there when I was 12, but by the time I was 15 I was 6'4" and able stand up to contact a lot better.

Nah that’s crazy, I’m 21 and we NEVER had hitting surprisingly. Sure there was contact and board play/battles but if you threw and open ice or against the boards hit, it’s a penalty

coward generation who can't or won't play the man before the puck, they were taught stupid things by corporate leagues who want to speed the game up but make players into defenseless girls

@@timyumichuck9262 whelp… that’s an embarrassing, telling thing to write, Tim.

@@ryanshoults123 Another big problem is they want to increase the age for when hitting begins in hockey which will only make these players less prepared for eventual big hits. You need to learn that stuff early. If they end up raising the age these kids will be soft and then get into a league where the hits are all that much more hard and they will be injured

Oh, they do. Not publicly, because of lawsuits older players filed, but look at the rule changes they have made. Also, you can get a concussion from a hit and not get hit in the head if the hit is hard enough.

And they don’t want fighting. If you don’t let ‘em duke it out, they will just do cheap shots

@@joseeduardo4327Then there is a problem with hockey if you think that the game HAS to be that physical. If that is the case, then players need therapy to reduce their homicidal tendencies

It's too bad the NHL isn't operating with international-sized ice sheets. Bigger rinks would add to the flow and curtail hitting. It's also too bad that fighting hasn't been outlawed.

@@mikephalen3162 The drama drives viewership. Good clean hockey isn't what makes the headlines. The NHL wants dirty hits and retaliation. Refs and the DOPS just exist to give them plausible deniability when a player gets a life changing injury.

@@coastaku1954 Hockey is a contact sport. You need to know how to hit and be hit. Just like American Football and Rugby. If you don't want physicality, play basketball or go be a grassy foot fairy

That’s the problem I play highschool and club and we don’t do hitting drills just skills and systems

literally.. at the end of practice we would line up on the boards and everyone would take a turn going thru while everyone else hits them LMAO

That literally sounds like abuse, why not learn how to shoot the puck and make plays, rather than be taught that anyone can hurt you any one time. Look at Short Track Speed Skating, the danger there comes from falling and hitting the mats or other skaters, so we learn how to fall, but I also know that when I skate, I'm not in danger of being checked or pushed, since those are instant disqualifications and even ejections from competition entirely, wanna know why? Because Short Track Speed Skating has rules and conduct, as well as the skaters have respect for each other, as well as a sense of good sportsmanship

@@RJ-be9yz Sounds like you'll become a great goal scorer, the League needs more of those

​@coastaku1954 Knowing how to brace for hits and make a clean check should be a focus. I think it's an issue of safety. The better a player is at anticipating and preparing for hits, the less likely they are to get taken out of a game with an injury. Hits and fighting are a part of the game, and can be a useful tool when it comes to breaking an opponent's momentum, and turning the tide of a game. The fast pace and elite goal scoring is extremely exciting, but contact isn't going to go away entirely, no matter the rules.

I notice it too, and I'm 21, younger than a lot of NHL players. I was told when I was in U12 you need to have an exit strategy when going into the boards so you don't get hit in the back. It's like me and the NHL players grew up playing a different game because if I went into a corner like some of them did, I'd be in a wheelchair.

He's removing the time and space, we were taught to jam the brakes on at the blueline where possible, take the body and let the back checker pick up the puck. He's really good at this.

I mean hitting someone in the head with your elbow gets you a fair amount of hate too but sure go off

Only suspended once, years ago with Winny...So the Trouba train will keep knocking people off the tracks..

He has great hits but that chop with his stick was horrible

I love when devils fans cry about Trouba ,but love the old devils of the 90s and early 2000's

@@ryanshoults123 brother you are misunderstanding my comment, I don't think he should be elbowing people in the head either

That won't fix the issue. You need balance. A bug reason on why hitting has gone down is bc kids and teens are shoeing up with near cte and concussions that don't help them in the real world. In the nhl, all the enforcers used to be drug addicts due to opiods. They need to teach how to hit correctly and accept a hit, but lawless all out hitting like before. Esp when you have skilled thinner and younger players who cannot match up to the physicality. Will get run over everytime and ppl will wonder why there's no skill and speed in the league anymore

@@AC-ri2ph wasn’t suggesting free for all. There needs to be better coaching and training on how to take and give checks. They are showing up with concussions because there’s no exposure to contact early on and they don’t learn how to protect themselves. Then they hit bantam and it’s wide open with a couple of sessions - from what I’ve seen - on contact. The 70’s wasn’t the right way either, it was old time hockey keep your head up! or you’ll get rocked. This isn’t the answer either, better coaching, more attention and focus on contact, how to take/recieve hits earlier in time line, throughout atom and peewee.

with olympic/euro rinks, it would make open ice hitting really hard if skill players have so much time and space. but the boards would still be a problem.

As a Short Track Speed Skater who needs Olympic sized pads, I approve of abolishing the NHL sized rink

It's on the person doing the hitting to make sure that it is a legal hit, not the other player. Save for certain instances where the puck carrier ducks or turns at the last second.

I suspect you’re absolutely right on that. At the NHL level it’s a risk/reward situation where presently is reward outweighs the risk most of the time. A bit like standing in front of a 100mph clapper. Is it a good idea? Objectively, no. But they’re “in it, to win it” and all that.

I like it better when it's all about fast players, awesome goals, and comradery, as well as sportsmanship. Big hits and fights stop the flow of the game and make it a matter of strength, rather than skill

​@coastaku1954 are you already wearing your rainbow jersey?)))

@@hockeystream5081 What are you trying to say, man? Cause what I'm reading there is something very very homophobic and doesn't belong in Hockey

@coastaku1954 Watch a Family Guy episode "Patriot Games". I am for the ice hockey as it should be. All the "silly nannies" should play ⚽️)))) BTW, yes, I think it's stupid to make the players wearing the rainbow jerseys.

the post bantam hitting rule is just apoplectically stupid.

Boom, there it is. "Hey, I just seriously injured a man, but because he was, ya know, playing hockey and focused on the puck and trying to make an opportunity for his team to score, while also minding his own business in the corner, It's all HIS fault that I don't know how to poke check or stick lift to cleanly steal a puck! And now I look like the hero to many other homicidal fans!"

Yeah you pretty much need a tough guy with a bunch of skill somewhere else and those are rare

@@bmac4 Exactly this, the overall skill level of the game has increased to the point where even your 4th line has to have talent, nobody has a roster slot they can waste on an enforcer. So a guy has to be big and tough AND pretty good at the game.

@@LazyLemming2Jacob trouba

Elite players haven't had protection since the mcdavid era started at least. What in the bs

Why would a Cap-Strapped team waste cap space and a man on the ice for someone who can barely shoot, can barely skate fast, and can only throw hits for minor transgressions while potentially ending people's careers and lives

There's more kinetic energy and momentum

one man ruined 2 careers of 2 of the greatest up and coming talents the NHL had ever seen. Eric Lindros/Paul Kariya

Heavily agreed, they hand out these slap on the wrist punishments when one guy just tried to take another guys head off, unbelievable.

pronger, samuelsson both played in stevens' time and were arguably just as bad. stevens is only highlighted because he ruined 2 HoF level players' careers (lindros and kariya)

While I do not disagree with you, in general, have fun convincing the Players Union to go along with your proposal. Because they have to agree to it to, and if they wanted that strict of rules in place, they would be there already.

I feel like a big reason players turn their back to players bearing down on them, is because A. They know if they do hit them, they'll receive a penalty and B. It blocks the puck from the incoming player, basically allowing them time to make a play without having to worry about the player having a direct line to the puck. I hate how players play the puck near the end boards now. They play in an entirely unsafe way because they know they are protected. Do I think players should be having their heads bashed into the boards? No. However, I think if a player intentionally turns himself away from a hit, there should not be a penalty on the hit as you are putting yourself in that position. The hit in this video where Robinson hits Barrun, Barrun had PLENTY of time to move the puck, had PLENTY of time to prepare himself for the coming impact, and had PLENTY of time, to turn into the hit instead of away from it. Not to mention he wasn't even hit all that hard in my opinion and I honestly believe he embellished the hit hoping to draw a major penalty.

When I was a kid I live in Rhode Island they didn't let us check until we were pee wee like 12 or 13 is that how it is now

Actually, guys almost always jump in and fight the hitter...that doesn't solve anything. I mean it doesn't stop the hit, does it? I agree with you though, they need to police the dirty hit (the referees and the league).

@@JoelER78 Having the refs or league “Police” dirty hits involves a review on the play. It’s after the fact and therefore doesn’t prevent the hit. The one solution for the league to add a deterrent would be to remove the instigator rule. Having a player or two who nobody wants to fight, deters the other team from taking liberties. A handful of average Joes who are willing to jump a guy is not the same as having a couple legit enforcers in the line-up (who play a regular shift).