i was thinking that the whole time 💀 these people seem to have only played through the VERY beginning of the game...

@@Walnarut tbf you can just forget about salubras house and just never revisit it until you pass over blue lake from resting grounds, which can be very late into the game

and wayward compass 💀

@@Buagg And the custom pins too! I got them on my first playthrough as soon as I realized that I would need to revisit past areas, and used them to mark e. g. impossible jumps and breakable floors.

IF they can get there to buy it though...

I thought I was noob for taking 4 hours to beat her

@@MasterIsabelle damn, still

It probably includes exploration before, and he may just have missed the good paths over and over and over again

@@5carresdechoco_292 I remember not exploring and so I missed the bench on screen under hornet... Took me 30 minutes to beat hornet because of it and it gently taught me that exploring is good and it's probably your fault if you find something unfair.

could also be he was talking about Hornet 2, but he is probably just bad.

Probably the most noteworthy example of someone like this is DarksydePhil. He will actually tell jokes or yell at the game to shut up, when it's trying to tell him something important... and then whines and says the game never told him about something.

@@VGamingJunkieVT Not to mention that he blames the game for every single little thing that goes wrong. Never his own fault. Nope. The game's just badly made is all.

And the compass! Like my guy please just go to the store

God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him won’t perish but will have eternal life.h

You don't even gotta do that, literally on your next visit to dirtmouth you'll typically explore the new opened shop immediately and find the Quill with ease

reading does wonders haha

My first time playing was playing really safe and heal alot and I died by the most piece of shit enemies XD. Laptop keyboard doesn't help either but still

I accidentally mapped the heal button to f5, and didn't notice for 9 hours. I felt stupid as well.

A cordial reminder using guides is completely okay.

lol

They still gave the game a bad review, thereby dragging down the user score, which ultimately misinforms people to the quality of the game if they are thinking of buying it. Just imagine if even half of these morons would stop and think for two seconds about what a "0" actually means. The game would receive better general scores, which would mean more people would see how great it is, which would mean more people would buy it, which means Team Cherry gets more money, which means more of these type of passion project games can be made in the future. Unneccesarily dragging down a score because you're a memelord (or giving a positive one for a bad game, at that.) just harms the developers and misinforms consumers. Nothing "legend" about it.

@@RedFloyd469 Hey, progress is progress. Plus, they’re a torch in the darkness that are these salty reviews because they actually say that you SHOULD buy it and prove the others are salty. While I agree that the 0-Star is unnecessary, at least he’s not a completely stuck up bastard

@@RedFloyd469 dude its one 0 rating, youre acting like its financially devestating

we stan a king

@@RedFloyd469 0 star reviews are inevitable though no matter what game

People who give a 0 star score can only give 0 or max, there is no in between for these people. Everything is either "literally the worst thing ever" or "gods gift to gaming".

God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him won’t perish but will have eternal life.q

​@@Yuki-qs5mt one person said god in this reply section and your Christian ass goes crazyyyyyyy i love people who had a brick dropped on their head as a baby

Your teach Is cool.

cool!

I completely and utterly agree with this, I was so shocked when I heard that anyone despised the music that much.

The teacher is goated

I can agree its funny

Lmaoo I click off the video, about to open the comment I look down in the comment section, as I was about to click it, I saw this master piece 😂 I literally die laughing on the spot

not only fire...

and he's already lost all ability to suffer waiting for silksong

I'm still fairly new to hollow knight. Been playing it for a few weeks and also taking my time in between. But I love it and plan on getting the platinum. I'm already near the end of the story. Just need to cleanup and the pantheon

Did you know that the dead sea is shrinking and that is bad since we keep taking the salt out of the water since we are dumb ass humans

lol

Your name has the Void Heart in it and I just got it today so that’s funny

@@JustARandomPersonLol69420 Well yes, but actually no

@@acat3772 is this a bot because i checked there comment history and most of the comments they made on this channel is something related to yes and no

Me, 100%. Pokemon --> HK was a bold choice but no regrets XD

Yeah, Hollow Knight is not a relaxing game. It's actually funny, my son gifted me Hollow Knight after I had complained my previous 3 games were too chill!

This has the same energy as buying stardew vallew to relax

@@usernametaken017 Wait... People aren't playing Stardew to relax?

@@Empolo18 Stardew makes it very easy to get caught up in optimizing and making sure you get x task done by y time. There are a lot of things that can be going on at once, and managing everything become pretty taxing.

Lol, at this point, one can say I'm taking several months to beat her, since I've yet to find the desire to get back on again. If I keep this up, I'll be at a year without defeating her!

@@TriforceKeybladeSkykid Don't worry, she's the hardest boss in the game.

Bro, it took me over 10 tries, and I probably lost count

@@TotallyNotSnowman Rad took me under 10 tries lol. But not everyone can be as good as me of course🤴

@@Wonkess_Chonkess I haven't even beaten Rad my dude

Mossbags life was just debunked. Just more reason to sacrifice him for silksong

What’s the plan to sacrifice him

@@pandaell1029 first, find out where he lives. Observe his house and figure out his daily routins. Gather members of the HK community you trust and assemble them in his local area. Assault him while he is alone and cannot receive help. Tie him up and prepare the ritual. Also make sure to dispose of evidence and potential witnesses.

There isn't much of a story to Hollow Knight. However, it is instead full of lore. Lore and story are two different things. Lore is what happened before you start playing or when you are not at a spot. It's often told through dialogue or details/changes in details or difficulty of a spot you were in before. Story is what happens in the game as you play it... SPECIFICALLY in the area you're at. The story typically bows down to you because it is told through the gameplay and your movements or things said or done by your character specifically. This is not to say Hollow Knight has no story, as you can choose where you want to go and you can go pretty much anywhere, following any path and making your own story, but it is still lacking. However, the lore is where HK shines the most and it's the lore, not the story, that Mossbag and several others focus on.

Also, I will say, lore is always the better of the two to focus on if you want to make the world feel alive. That is something some of these reviewers don't seem to understand.

Same, took me a while, plus I hadn't realised there was a stag station with a bench near the fight, which made everything even more annoying. But that only boosted the feeling of satisfaction I got at the end, the "I did it, by myself, I can do anything", such a great feeling that follows you through the game.

took me 2h blind from the start only help was a friend told me to go to green path

@@user-py3kd6pw7y Happened exactly the same to me

thats exactly what happened to me

I think it took me around 3 hours to beat hornet it's too bad I had to fight her though she is my favorite character and all her fights are really fun

Imagine fighting hornet for 22 hrs and losing 😂

if you dont beat hornet in 5-10 attempts then you are a failure, BUT THIS, IS SO GODAMN FUNNY-

@@peacock871 Not really Some people take more time to learn Not giving up is more important

@@rahulverma8774 ok i take it back, 20-30 attempts

Bro 22 hours was my time to beat the hollow knight on my first completely blind playthrough

Honestly, I thought Hollow Knight was more hand-holding than Ori was. I couldn't play Ori at first but after playing Hollow Knight I literally got through Ori in 2-3 sittings. Hollow Knight is very generous with it's map system to help figure out where the next place is. So tons of laughing in this video lol.

@@terrahatvol7960 I feel kinda bad, because my experience was totally diferent. I got stuck on the first map for a lot of hours haha. But still, I love the game and already beated It with 112%

@@terrahatvol7960 really? i thought that ori was much more kinder than hollow knight

Yeah... people shouldn't play a metroidvania if they don't enjoy exploring for its own sake, getting lost, and revisiting old areas with new abilities. I also tried to get someone to play Outer Wilds, but they absolutely hated it because they didn't want to explore and learn and experiment. They just wanted to complete objectives and reach the end as fast as possible. They were pissed that their progress kept getting reset, and totally failed to realize that nothing had been lost. The "checkpoints" are the player's knowledge... and the only reason they weren't making progress is because they refused to pay attention or learn.

Getting lost for a total of over 60 hours is one of the biggest reasons I love this game so much, as it’s just so refreshing to walk through the ruined kingdom of Hallow Nest with the simple but beautiful art, the ambiance in sound for anything and everything, the soundtrack that fits in to the surroundings in such a harmony of emotion that you could just explore without purpose other than to just feel for hours upon hours, the way the game grasps you into getting lost in a way where you can always find a way other that that of which you came to find your way again. I don’t have any more words to describe exactly how I feel about getting lost, and why it’s such a big part of the experience for me.

🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 AND THE PRIZE FOR FILTHIEST CASUAL GOES TO 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆

Well someone’s never played a video game before

Yeah I was so confused on that one. Like how do they think enemies work?

I personally prefer my enemies to stand motionless and wait patiently for my nail to strike them down.

You can smell the salt and sweat in their reviews.

Sucking at it makes it all the more satisfying when you do finally beat that god damn boss you've been stuck on for hours, whilst slowly learning how to avoid its attacks and finding its weak spots, it feels even more satisfying.

Through failure, you shall become more skilled.

What do you mean the game is more then forgotten crossroads?

@@bestaround3323 no, there is no more than the forgotten crossroads, there is no story, heck, there isn't even a game so ignore the youtube videos and play it on Roblox, it has more depth there

This comment really brings back a lot of nostalgia for me… ah… the good ol’ days… when I had no idea what game I was playing.

This reads like a comment that's nostalgic for the first time learning Minecraft.

lol yeah when i came back to forgotten crossroads after some time, it feels really small compared to the first impression

This man be milking a blank sheet of paper, apparently. My personal favorite was "little room for improvement." That means I'm almost as good as fireb0rn! (PS I am not).

This is game theory

Yeah, just like people talking about Elden Ring lore! Absolutely no story what so ever

mossbag wasted his time on walking simulator smh 😤😤😤

damn your good i still can beat p5 and i havent even gotten to city of tears in steel soul

I lliteraly had the same exact expirience except that instead of The Jellyfish Pit of Doom i was stuck in the Mr. Stressball's Sanctum of Soul Finding and Yoga, then i came back months later, 112% intensifies.

Don't worry, I spent about a week or 2 of on and off attempts fighting the mantis lords because I didn't upgrade my nail before fighting them. I was very happy with my charm though.

My Play time on my main save file is 65h 06m and It feels like 65h 05m was spent on mantis lords

I can only imagine your frustration when you thought you defeated him, only to see it was a fake out.

Dang dude lol. Longest I remember taking on a boss was a couple 5 -6 hour play sessions to get some of the Flawless achievements in Wings of Vi. Good persistence by you though!👍

Im loaing my mind here trying to get past the 3RD patheon i dont even know if ill be able to get the godmaster endings ):

And quirrel's croissant

Ikr

There's nothing wrong with having less (or different) video game experience

@@RamzaBeoulves but there IS something wrong with blaming the game when the lack of experience is the only problem

@@RamzaBeoulves No one is saying you can't dislike the game, what they're saying is that you shouldn't say the game is bad just because YOU are bad at it or dont like it lol

Exactly! It took me 4 hours to beat Soul Master. And now, I've recently beaten NKG. People who complain about a game being too hard make me so confused. Do you want a game a toddler can beat? Like wtf lol

true, my first time playing i die to the false knight 2 e Hornet over 30, and now i almost beat PoH at first. A have like 60 hours and 99% of Achivements (2 times because i lost my save) and I went to recess and play other games.

Damn, I still haven't beaten P3, I hate Zote.

I spent at least two hours straight of grinding to beat her. Plus an extra couple hours at different times. Beating her was the most satisfying thing ever!

💀💀 do u play with ur feet? 100 tries?

I’m not far from being 30 and I have to wonder how old this person is that they’re playing Hollow Knight but is still like “You Young Wippersnappers and your weird games! Back in my day games made sense!”

I mean they're trying to shift the market of the game to "HyPeR aCtIvE yOuNgStErS" when in reality that's the direct opposite of the person HK is for. In Hollow Knight, you die, die, die, die, and then you get the perfect run in which you don't die! The pure euphoria in that moment is something that most other games can't do. Hollow Knight requires a person with patience. (Also, don't worry, I'm bad too. It took me 8 hours to get the mantis claw XD)

@@rnaodmsomething i don’t even want to talk about the hours it took for the mantis lords heheh but i adore the lore and music and am patient so i don’t mind taking my time

@@zara-uv1kp oh no

@@rnaodmsomething to be fair i’ve never ever played a metroidvania or platform i normally play more chill games

this! seems everyone wants marker to point the way. they don’t want to explore, immerse themselves in the world. just a to b to beat the game for the sake of saying they beat it

The Ori games had map markers, and it didn't take away anything. It means players can consciously choose to advance the story, or avoid doing it. And they were placed in the void (like the dreamers) so you still had to explore to get there

@@diethylmalonate hollow knight was simply better than ori though.

@@adamya1639 it's not. Ori 2 isn't as good as HK but Ori 1 can't be compared

@@adamya1639 I've never played Ori but don't be saying HK is simply better when they are just different games with differing styles. As fire said, not everyone likes every game and that's fine but keep in mind design choices work in much the same way.

Bro it took me like 70 hours to beat the main game cause i kept getting sidetracked now i have 115 hours and stuck on the p5 💀💀💀💀

game journalists

That guy should have realised, he's meant to fight her not date her

22 hours lol, beat Hornet on my first try, and I was 10

Well now I feel stupid :)))) It took me a lot to beat Hornet the first time, but it also was the first game I played with a controller so I think that justifies it :)))

@@nyoo8401 saaaame, it took me around 2 hours worth of trying and failing, but when I finally beat her I was so happy :)

so true

What clown music? lol

I think it's because it uses Silksong music

@@cole8685 the snowy area song from Mario 64

@@TetsucabraLover fair enough

isn’t that just the flukemons though?

@@nategwright yea, true, but I think the comment probably mostly refers to the enemies that can still damage you even when you've killed them, like the Ooma's and the Spiny Husk's and the corrupted version of Vengeflies that go boom boom. but yea, true, they're not "respawning", but they're still able to damage you even when you've killed them.

Now do patheon of hallownest without gathering swarm

I used to speedrun this game and haven't played it in a while. Picked it up again the other week and spent another 15 hours just playing through normally. This game is worth more than gold.

If you like being frustrated at games and being lost in the maze, you should play Rain World.

@@behindthecookie8653 thanks. I'll check it out.

@@great_channel hell no. That’s too difficult.

That’s what happened to me at first. Then I actually played the game.

Imagine him beating mantis lords. Or radience...

@@Allustar same but I didn’t give my money to millibelle and then died losing my money. Started another file after that. Now I’m currently 60h in at p5 and almost have all the achievements such as finishing the game in 5 hours ( just missing things I couldn’t do on my first file and p5)

Oh my God I remember Grimm he was not easy I never could beat the nightmare version I barely could beat the first one lol randomizer or no

Me, a smooth brain: oh, that's referencing the Deepnest bench...oh no, my bad, you're right.

I actually didn't sit there at all because I ended up doing an entirely different route through the deepnest after beating the mantis Lords. I was in a constant state of fear because I ended up in a place where I felt I had no return and I would need to restart the entire game (no map, no lamp, old nail). But I found my way back, and enter city of tears from below.

@@jkf16m96 I love hearing about the odd paths people end up taking :D Accidentally losing the opportunity is obviously not a problem.

@@jkf16m96 Wait a second...I think I took the same path as you! I never realized I could go through the main gate to the city of tears (I didn't realize I got the key or something), so once I cleared everything I could reach before that, I took the plunge into Deepnest (no city of tears, no desolate dive, no nail upgrades, etc.) with virtually nothing but a lantern to my name. _It was horrifying._ 10/10 experience. Would recommend, would not do it twice! And yea, the only bench for a while was at the bottom of Deepnest. Then I had to go through the ancient basin, then up to King's Station (I think I went a little bit into the kingdom's edge, hard to remember, tho). Deepnest was definitely the most terrifying part by far.

And then don't talk to him so he becomes immortal

I think the ones talking about the graphics are trolling, the graphics are what attracts so many people’s attention to the game in the first place. And even if you don’t like them they clearly aren’t low quality.

Or just didn't read any of the literal LORE TABLETS. Heck, after you beat Hornet, and stay too long, you get forced to read a part of lore, then you have dream nail.

Emegle? It’s me manatee! Didn’t know you played this game

Hi, been a while

I can't be the only one who was so fascinated by the design and beuty of the fog canyon that I walked right into a jelly fish, tried going about my day, and then was fascinated by the design and beuty of the following explosion as I began stroking out

Yes

@@mrblur6055 I agree

Yo dont we love that genre, the hyperactive youngster genre? personally, those gen z games are pretty litty af doe am i right BOIIIIIS

@@temirlahnreysalvador5534 you become a member

oh yeah 😎

damn she must've learned a lot from that 7 hours of fighting Hornet

@@TBHWHOKNOWS hornet was very easy for me the real first challenge that i fought was mantis lord (i passed 10 hours on it) and i learned a LOT of things in there

@@Guntesfdp imo mantis lords were really easy and the pattern is fun and satisfying to follow, only took about half an hour or a bit more to beat them

That's more casual than a video game journalist

I tried beating lost kin without the double jump... It took me 2 hours to realise that I should've just gone past the broken vessel arena to get the monarch wings ability. Not that it helped cause I wasn't used to it so I just kept hitting the little ghosts eventually I gave up trying to learn to dodge with the double jump and practised patience... I got in 2 hits at a time eventually I won after a total of 4 hours of gameplay

I didn't even have the shadow cloak or quick slash... Yes I was a dumb dumb

Can relate a lot, though I didn't go completely blindly sadly. I knew about some stuff beforehand but the experience was still good for what it was, never got 112% nor completed PoP or any pantheons but I'd say I don't need them anyways, I was more in for the exploring and story this game had to offer. Probably one of the better games I've ever played.

The funny thing for me is that I have gotten so used to nail knock back that steady body now causes me to consistantly walk into enemies

@@magnateze as someone who only has somewhere from 5 to 20 hours of playtime, i still have the same issue

Same

there is something special in it

again, what have i been doing for the past 5 years?

@@HowToLive352 breathing

i like that joke

White Lady is a bug?

have been searching for this lol

stoP

And there are extremely crappy boss fights in the waterways

...And then, dozens of hours later, you equip steady body again and realise its tremendous power, being able to stay on top of bosses in spite of quickslash like never before

haha same. i rly do live by steady body now in all honesty. never rly took it off

The knockback did feel a bit weird to me at first, but when I found Steady Body I thought “That costs a whole charm notch!? Forget that, I’m just going to get used to the knockback.” I still don’t use Steady Body and don’t see much of a use for it for myself.

yeah I can't stand steady body either.

@@sandjgaez257 I use it with quicknail to just rail and rail on enemies with no hesitation. But otherwise, yeah there's a sort of rhythm you get used to with the natural knockback that feels weird to be without if you're not intentionally breaking it.

@Oyou Graphics: It’s an art style. Just because it’s cartoonish doesn’t mean it looks like a 9 year old drew it. Backgrounds are also extremely detailed and animations are clean. Simple art style also means more people can easily draw fan art, which is something a lot of fans of the game enjoy. The darkness makes sense, you’re underground most of the time. Not dull either, I just think you’re monitor is broken. Music: I don’t know what to say. Maybe you just hate pianos that much. If the Greenpath, I mean…”jungle”…music drove you insane, then you probably have some other mental issue. Greenpath is the most calm and inviting theme in the entire game. Difficulty: The game isn’t that easy man. You saying just spam heal tells me you never got that far into the game. Plenty of bosses punish you for healing in the open, so you’re required to dodge and manage your soul in order to not die. That’s where the difficulty comes from. With your logic every game in the world is easy because “just dodge and heal”. Gameplay: Having a single weapon and three spells isn’t a bad thing. The reason it works so well is because your charms can augment how you play. You can build around nail arts, build around your spells, build around your dash doing the damage for you, build around nail spam which you seem to favor. Later in the game you unlock new movement abilities that alter how you approach dodging attacks. Enemy design is also consistently evolving and testing your ability to use all of your options together. It’s fun to learn how to master each skill, which is why so many people still play this game years later Lore: Common complaint I hear for this game and other game like Dark Souls. Yes, the story is very non-linear, but if you don’t understand the premise by the end of the game then that’s your fault. I completely understood there was an infection, I was a vessel, and vessels are the only beings that can contain the infection. By the time I defeated the Hollow Knight, I completely understood what my adventure was about without looking up a video or checking the wiki. I understand it doesn’t work for some people, but that doesn’t mean it is bad. Characters: The characters aren’t supposed to go on some elaborate developmental character arc. Most are side characters that the player may or may not talk to, so there isn’t enough time for all of them. Even then, Quirrel and Cloth at least get their respective arcs still. Cornifer is a map man, he sells maps. You shouldn’t expect any other development from the map guy and if you do you are just being picky. Zote is also a joke character. He exists to make you laugh, which is why he is a meme and nothing more. Hornet is a character the majority of people care about. She’s the only true child of the Pale King and serves as Hallownest’s last defender. Upon meeting you she is dismissive and thinks of you as nothing else but another stray vessel unfit to become anything more. As she follows you in your adventure she becomes less hostile and instead respects your presence. After you prove yourself she gives you the Kingsbrand and pushes you to become the next Hollow Knight. This culminates in the true ending where she flies in during the fight and helps you enter the Hollow Knight’s mind to defeat the radiance. There’s the change you begged for. It’s right there and you ignored it. Ergonomy: Walls that can be broken are visibly cracked and walls that can be passed through don’t have a flat wall, floor, or ceiling. Your eyes do the work and if you think you have to hit EVERY single wall you are just being stupid. The game is not overrated

@Oyou My dude really complaining about the backgrounds being dull and sad when the game's set in a *fallen kingdom*, and about the gameplay being uninteresting when you're the one who didn't bother to explore and do interesting things..? What in the world...? What are you, a gamer-Karen?

@Oyou “Difficulty:None” I’m starting to feel you just watched a walkthrough of the game and didn’t actually play it. Cause Hollow Knight has some difficult bosses such as NKG, Absolute Radiance, Pure Vessel, Markoth, and several more.

@Oyou standing here, i watch this argument. And agree with splotch.

@Oyou bruh Celeste story is linear while hollow knight is non-linear (because metroidvaina) also the way you complained about the games art style is like complaining that iron lung looks like crap and you can make the game better on blender Also 1- the is no true ending (as stated by the dev) 2- spells do way more damage than your knife (forgot what it was called ) without charms even your knife is fully Upgraded 3-(for the wall breaking one) have you ever played a Metroidvania because they are all like this (remember when the gow dev took hours on a single room because he didn’t know that there are breakable blocks above him the whole time ) 5- also the lore is pretty straightforward to understand once you actually look for it. 6- isn’t there a mode in the game where you have to fight all the bosses but because it has to be in a different save file, you only have what you have at the start of the game.

Addendum: the nearest bench had multiple parkour sections with thorns/falling platforms on the way to it. Even with perfect jumps, it took a while.

I just put a dreamgate after a while lol.

yeah I would have torn my hair out if I didn’t have dreamgate at that point to warp back

@@nategwright My first playthrough was as a newbie, so I had no idea what that was hehe. Still beat him though!!

It took me way more than 10 tries to beat Hornet the first time, it's not the end of life, but I get what you mean :) Now I'm practicing for P5 though.

it took me a few more than 10 tries to beat those, but i agree with what you mean.

Hornet is on a different leauge that false knight. I no hitted false knight, but it took me 8 tries to beat hornet

Current me {Who is currently practicing for pantheon 5} would be screaming at past me for struggling HARD against false knight and hornet.

its difficult to figure out navigation at first but if you just follow hornet she leads you through the first few beats of the story/to important shops you need in early game, that helped me out a ton on my first playthrough

Wym the game is full of bugs

@@TotallyNotSnowman you did not just-

It took me 300 hours to find a bug that actually effects gameplay

HOW u couldn't found a single bug, when ur literally as far as i'm considered playing as a bug?

Well it actually have a lot of bugs

Yo wut gps ain’t that hard

Ok, but you also dont respawn

@@geckoanims yes, and??

@@geckoanims yeah, but Steelsoul with no respawned enemies actually makes the game easier as you progress. Just makes it hard if not impossible to 100%/112%.

I feel like it could potentially make things harder. No easy access to soul, and I'm almost certain there are some places where pogoing is required that would become impassible once you kill the enemy.

Harder to get geo early, impossible for stuff like Dream Nail before Vengeful Spirit... Imagine if that still applied to the Colosseum though, and you just walked into the trial for the second time and they immediately gave you more money for doing nothing.

Or do colos with basic gear to get the geo to upgrade it I guess?

Or perhaps you want the flower quest to be absolutely not challenging at all?

Or do you want to lose out on platforming skips, maybe if the enemies didn't respawn why should you? Especially the shade enemies in the abyss, I'd like to see those people say they can't respawn when the player can.

Or try to complete the Hunters Journal and fail miserably?

Also I don't know how many relics there are but 4 arcane eggs makes 4800 geo, maybe 20k- 30k from everything else, you would barely afford a max nail, no extra charms and stuff, no more mask shards and yeah

This is my experience, just swap P4 for P3 - Sly was a gatekeeper for me for a good couple of months. I can safely say that the only moment more satisfying than finally getting my ass kicked by Pure Vessel in five seconds was when I beat Mantis Lords for the first time and they bowed to me. Such a proud moment for someone who sucks at games.

This is the same for me but for Pure Vessel. All the other bosses I beat with someone looking over my shoulder, able to analyze the bosses pattern better than I bcs I was busy dodging. Pure Vessel was super speedy and I couldn't find a way to react quick enough. Few days later I beat him. I was so proud I almost cried. Then, recently, I beat NKG in less than an hour 30 and holy crap did I realize 'I'm actually kinda good at this game' and I was super happy. HK actually helped me with my mental health in various ways such as giving me a good sleep schedule bcs I had to wake up at 7 to beat my brother to the xbox with enough time to beat WP or Radiance. It also helped me not get angry at myself when I fail!

If you have the mental and/or motivation, you can get better and more consistent in the pantheons and actually master lot of the bosses. I'm still surprising myself for example, after getting some of the bindings now. I can now beat Pure Vessel without restrictions about 9/10 times. It took a lot of effort though. I was as bad as worst of these reviews at first.

Pure vessel is such a fun fight. The only two bosses that pose a challenge to me at this point are absolute radiance because it's such a long fight. And grey prince zote because he makes me angry. But even though those are at the end of PoH I keep trying it. And now I think back to when I died around 60 times to hornet. Good times.

The highlight of my playthrough that first comes to mind is the nightmare king Grimm fight. The ambience, the heart in the background, the music giving it a feeling like it's a dance where one miss step means you die just feels amazing! It's so intense and fun that even though I kept getting angry and my hands started to hurt my burning urge to win and sheer enjoyment of the whole thing just made me say "okay one more try". And then half an hour later on my 20th last try I said the same thing. Improving and succeeding just felt amazing and finally beating him after so long knowing how much I had to improve and get better just made it even better. To me nightmare king Grimm shows that a burning desire to improve and succeed along with just sheer enjoyment can go a super super SUPER long way.

Ah yes that feeling when you find the huge borehole into Resting Grounds for the first time: "What the FUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-------------------"

That is quite the story. Pretty funny too

I did all that without vengeful spirit or dash

@@Shawblade Usually by the time you're spending hours farming geo for items from shops you should have thought, "I must have missed something"

@@AndrewJohnson-ny5nx I thought that I would need the items to progress further into the game, that's why I farmed geo to buy them.

I did the same thing except I completely forgot to mark anything so I'm wandering around for hours trying to see if a new area is unlocked for me already lol

I did that and then I forgot what mental colour coding I used for the different markers

I used that same system. Blue markers for things I need items I don’t have to get to, red markers for “I’ve tried this boss so many times, send help”

@@georgerobins4110 Wait, so you DON'T retry that same boss for 10+ hours until you finally beat it?? Failed Champion took me 8-10 hours to beat because I REFUSED to accept defeat a 112th time

@@angeluriel2725 that was me exactly with Watcher Knights and NKG. After the first couple failed attempts, I watched some tutorials on KZfaq for better strats, then I rammed my face at them repeatedly until I finally beat them (not literally trying to facetank ofc lol). Some of the people shown in the video may view looking up help as cheating, but hey, if a little cheating here and there helps you enjoy the game more instead of ragequitting and writing a salty review, I'm fine with that.

Literally the first area of the game past the tutorial has a guy that sells you a map, and as you said, Wayward Compass, a charm you can get in that very same area, solves all issues with directionlessness. Best of all: it's entirely optional whether you wish to use it or not. Now don't get me wrong: I'm not saying I have a good sense of direction, I don't. I don't mind when a game gives you quest markers or something similar. But for Hollow Knight, there really isn't an excuse to defend this silly argument. Exploration is exactly what metroidvanias are all about. That's the draw. You don't have to like exploration, but then don't buy exploration games ffs. (not talking about you, I'm talking about the troglodytes writing these reviews.)

Yeah I have an absolutely abysmal directional sense, and move around like a drunk, blind junebug. Compass was a godsend to my stupid ass

@@synkt8759 wayward compass is so good for people like that since it costs almost nothing, only takes up one charm notch and is accessible pretty early on in the game.

@@JustARandomPersonLol69420 my god have i used so much wayward that in some areas i dont even need it anymore lmao, some i still do becausae i visited few times or spent little time in it overall comparatively, but yeah compass was like my first buy in the beggining

Why don't these people just look up area guides lmao. We live in an age where "Google it" is a common phrase and KZfaq are a thing.

It's always like 'waa I played a game with genre aspects I don't like and I didn't end it liking up )): Why is this happening 0/10 uninstalled'

@@kalamies. exactly x’D but I think you meant ‘end up liking it’ :p

@@SecondFloor2311 the terrible grammar is part of the satirical review

@@kalamies. You forgot “uinstalled”

Yeah I was terrible at the game and beat her in like 45 minutes. 22 hours on a literal tutorial boss is insane to me

The cuphead journalist

Bruh I first tried hornet lmaoooooo

An hour is fast tho

Guess I am worse than I thought, hornet took 50 tries

"Bad game don't recommend It took me a whole ass year but I finally beat troupe master and I think maybe that was it But no more backtracking around the map looking for ridiculous red flames because this game sure enjoys wasting my time 10 hours later after beating all 3 bosses scattered around the map in the most inconvenient possible place's THERE'S ANOTHER BOSS WTF DON'T PLAY THIS GAME IT'S BEEN 20 YEAR'S AND I STILL HAVEN'T BEAT HIM"

Lol

I died repeatedly to the False Knight when I first started playing. Much, much, later, I beat Nightmare King Grimm on Radiant. So I guess there's a lesson here about persistence or something.

I'm wondering which Hornet the guy was talking about... Greenpath's Hornet Guardian is really easy, and somehow I'm believing that the reviewer didn't get to Hornet Sentinel near Kingdom's Edge.

@@mastermewtwo5503 if he didn't mention the rematch in kingdom's edge, you know it's because he doesn't know about it. So, it's definitely greenpath hornet.

Hollow Knight was my second game and that’s ridiculous, I very much doubt those numbers. I mean, it took me 17 hours to Path of Pain.

Hollow Knight is my first game and I can't remember how many hours in I beat her but I don't remember Hornet being that bad lmao. Hornet 2 maybe coz she's a little faster and more unpredictable but Hornet 1 is still in the realm of introductory like False Knight

Maybe they meant 22 hours of total play time? Like, from the start of the game, by the time they beat hornet it was 22 hours? I can maybe see that. Casual + bad at platformers maybe + trying to explore a lot

@@beybl7869 Yeah I replied to you comment saying maybe its possible, but then actually read the rest of the review and they also say they spend 36 hours 'getting lost'. So yeah, doesnt sound like they are saying they played for 22 hours total, they are actually saying they played for 50+ hours exploring and beating hornet total. I don't know, if a game grabs me so much that I spend 50+ hours playing it, I probably wouldnt leave a zero star review. Plus they literally say they are 'not a casual player' so the numbers just seem unlikely to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@@unknownperson8527 took me like 10 minutes of actually fighting the boss lmao

that's the only one that made me angry

*screaming noises intensify*

Since I write music and learn all sorts of harmony about music and all that, I can clearly say this person has 0 appreciation for music. Like, clearly you wouldn’t be saying this if you actually heard themes like NKG and Sealed Vessel. Oh but what am I saying, these people admit they’re trash at the game. I am too, though, and beat Radiance. Just git gud

NKG and Sealed are great pieces of music and I love them dearly but I stand by The Radiance theme as being a banger final boss theme

That physically hurt me

Something akin to the map rooms in super metroid? that game puts a lil dot on a room that contains a secret and finding the map room fills your whole map in, thereby revealing what rooms have stuff hidden in them without actually showing you how they're hidden. Cornifer fills the purpose of the map on its own but they could have had a modified thing where you find a certain other npc within a region and if you've got the map already you can pay them to mark either one or all rooms that have secrets, or perhaps just the secrets that you can currently access. I think it is. . . maybe against the spirit of the game's focus on exploring to do so, but I could see the appeal of such a feature. Alternate option, something like the x-ray visor, also from super metroid, which when used on a wall will reveal if it's a normal wall or if it needs a special tool to open.

@@Splitcyclewastaken yeah, something like that... something i think that could have worked is after buying every map from cornifer and he goes home, you could talk to him there and pay him to put a random marker on your map locating something of interest you haven't discovered. as he's scouting and mapping areas he must have some rumors or suspicions of those things. and it's not like you'd get these hints for free

idk what it is w gamers sometimes but they absolutely refuse to look stuff up and will drop the game before doing so on some occasions

@@twinbruisesonmyshins I'm scared of running into spoilers when I look stuff up, and I wanna experience everything by myself but it's kinda impossible for Hollow Knight

But like for a game you shouldn't be forced to look things up that is just a failure on the game's part especially if it happens more than once. On my blind play-through, I missed so many things and b/c of the requirement of some abilities and the size of the map, I spent over half of my play-through walking around. Don't get me wrong, I liked the game and at first, the novelty of walking around and figuring things out was great you get to the maxed size of the map and are looking for the one thing you need, and it starts to become a bad game.

Or any good game that was pixelated,(undertale,deltarune, haiku the robot, Celeste)

burh 90% of the good games I've played are pixelated(maybe cuz I have a potato pc)

I love pixilated games, I've played megaman

Honestly same. City of Tears is still my favourite area for the music alone.

Deepnest is my favourite area because it's atmosphere is so good. I definitely don't get the atmosphere complaints because that's probably the best aspect of the game after it's music

@@pluto3194 DEEPNEST!? I salute you, brave soldier

@@voidnoidoid It's a great area! It really feels like the whole place is trying to kill you at all times and I love that. Definitely not for everyone but I really like it

Yep. Suddenly seeing quirell on a bench and sitting beside him with that look on the knight's face, so much vibe and atmosphere damn!