Home Theater with (8) 18's and (14) 12" Subs! Got Bass? Kansas City Tour

Рет қаралды 90,813

2 жыл бұрын

The guys in Kansas City don't mess around when it comes to Home Theater. Sheldon installed (8) 18" subwoofers behind his screen and (14) 12" subwoofers for the seating. Best pricing on Home Theater products - youthmanreviews.com/sales/
Visit hometheatertours.com to submit yours for a possible tour - hometheatertours.com.
Kansas City Home Theater Tour Playlist - bit.ly/Kansas_City_Home_Theat...
Sheldon's Build Thread - www.avsforum.com/threads/carp...
Sheldon's System:
LCR speakers: JBL 4722n’s
Side and Rear Surrounds: JBL SP8ll in wall speakers
Ceiling speakers: 4 RSL c34e’s
Subs: 8 18” Stereo Integrity HT 18’s sealed
BOSS drivers: 14 total JBL 12” drivers
Projector: Epson 5040
Screen: Elite Screens AcousticPro UHD
AVR: Yamaha RX-A3060
Minidsp 2x4HD
Sub Amps: Cerwin Vega CV 5000, 2 inuke 3000 dsp’s
Chairs: Row One Manhattan 8090’s and Costco Pulaski HT seats
GIK acoustic panels
Harmony Elite Remote
Ways You Can Support:
Patreon: / youthman
Youthman Courses - www.youthmancourses.com/
Youthman Merch - teespring.com/stores/youthman/
Follow Us:
KZfaq: Subscribe to this Channel: goo.gl/YEJ23p
Youthman Crew Facebook Group - / youthmancrew
Instagram: / youthmanreviews
Twitter: / youthmanreviews
Website: youthmanreviews.com/
____
Disclaimer: Affiliate Links are used in the description of this video. I earn from qualifying purchases.
Valencia Cinema Series Theater Seats:
Venice - bit.ly/valencia_venice
Budapest - bit.ly/valencia_budapest
Piacenza - bit.ly/valencia_piacenza
Piacenza Powered Headrest - bit.ly/valencia_piacenza_powe...
Verona - bit.ly/valencia_verona
Verona - Powered Headrest - bit.ly/valencia_verona
Valencia Premier Series Theater Seats:
Oslo - bit.ly/valenciaoslo
Oslo XL - bit.ly/valenciaosloxl
Zurich - bit.ly/valenciazurich
Tuscany - bit.ly/valencia_tuscany
Bern - bit.ly/valencia_bern
All Valencia Seating - bit.ly/valencia_all
____
BasX Amplifiers
A2 (2ch amplifier) - bit.ly/emotiva-basx-a2
A3 (3ch amplifier) - bit.ly/emotiva-basx-a3
A4 (4ch amplifier) - bit.ly/emotiva-basx-a4
A5 (5ch amplifier) - bit.ly/emotiva-basx-a5
A7 (7ch amplifier) - bit.ly/emotiva-basx-a7
More Emotiva Amps:
XPA-DR1 - bit.ly/Emotiva-XPA-DR1
XPA-DR2 - bit.ly/Emotiva-XPA-DR2
XPA-DR3 - bit.ly/Emotiva_XPA-DR3
XPA-2 Gen3 - bit.ly/Emotiva_XPA2_Gen3
XPA-3 Gen3 - bit.ly/Emotiva-XPA-3-Gen3
XPA-5 Gen3 - bit.ly/Emotiva_XPA-5_Gen3
XPA-7 Gen3 - bit.ly/Emotiva-XPA-7-Gen3
XPA-9 Gen3 - bit.ly/Emotiva-XPA-9-Gen3
XPA-11 - bit.ly/Emotiva_Build_Your-Own_Amp
Emotiva BasX A-500 - bit.ly/Emotiva-BasX-A-500
Emotiva Processors:
XMC-2 - bit.ly/Emotiva-XMC-2
RMC-1 - bit.ly/Emotiva-RMC-1
RMC-1L - bit.ly/Emotiva-RMC-1L
_____
My 7.2.4 Dedicated Home Theater System:
Speakers:
(3) JTR Noesis 212HTR - bit.ly/JTR_Noesis_212HTR
(4) Klipsch RS-62ii - amzn.to/2ET4R2w
(4) Klipsch CDT-5800-C II Atmos Speakers - amzn.to/2P4PdEZ
(2) JTR Captivator RS2 Subwoofers - bit.ly/jtr-captivator-rs2
Video:
JVC DLA-NX7 Projector - amzn.to/3imLm3l
150" Seymour Center Stage XD (2.35:1) AT Screen - seymourav.com/screensDIY.php
Pioneer UDP-LX500 - bit.ly/2GwGZly
PS5
Audio:
Marantz AV7706 11.2 Processor - amzn.to/39PAg4i
Monolith 11X Amplifier - amzn.to/2VB4CAg
GIK Acoustics - bit.ly/GIK-Acoustics-1
Theater Seating:
Valencia Tuscany - bit.ly/valencia_tuscany
Valencia Console - bit.ly/valencia_console
Lighting:
Lutron Caseta with Hub - amzn.to/2V1vp9n
CB Concept SMD5050 LED Lighting - amzn.to/39LpmtG
Misc:
Harmony Elite Remote with Harmony Hub - amzn.to/326SnNT
XLR Cables - amzn.to/3577Mk6
Orbi Wifi Router - amzn.to/2V227rh
Sewell Banana Plugs - amzn.to/2wu1Y5J
14 gauge Speaker Wire - amzn.to/2HGf1mJ
_____
My Home Theater Photos & Videos:
Theater Room Video Tour- • Home Theater Tour with...
Custom Cabinet Build Thread - imgur.com/gallery/Ly3SMdU
7.2.4 Dolby Atmos Build Thread - goo.gl/YShhGf
High Res Photos - imgur.com/gallery/Z2YE8vK

Пікірлер: 331

@shiscarp 2 жыл бұрын

Hey guys this is Sheldon and this was my room. Huge thanks to Michael, this was a blast to do!! If anyone has any questions I’d be happy to answer.

@welderfixer 2 жыл бұрын

Sheldon, great build!! Since you are a teacher you could use your room for a physics lab/demo. :-) Have fun and all the best!!

@shiscarp 2 жыл бұрын

@@keepingupwiththejones2933 thanks for the kind words! It was a little nerve racking but glad I did it!

@brucecarter6205 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing. It’s always fun to see the journey of others and where they ended up.

@shiscarp 2 жыл бұрын

@@welderfixer “Teacher” is a strong term since I’m a professional dodgeball instructor (aka PE teacher 😄) but I did put in some of my JBL SCS8’s in our weight room and they sound great in there!

@shiscarp 2 жыл бұрын

@@keepingupwiththejones2933 I wondered how that would work and if people could see the pictures on their phone and at the same time be able to see Michael and I. I think it turned out great thanks to Michael, Nick, and Tony!

@CoachCole71 2 жыл бұрын

My wife already said don’t even think about it 😂😂😂

@mattgiunt 2 жыл бұрын

This guy was great on camera and loads of fun to watch.

@shiscarp 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Matt, that was very nice of you to say. Youthman made it feel very comfortable and fun to make the video.

@glennjones6574 2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the very same thing..hmmm

@TheCg1224 2 жыл бұрын

I have been in the room several times over the years. Every time I go over I can't help but have a huge smile on my face. The way he has it now is amazing.

@shiscarp 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the compliments, I wish I could tell who you are from your name! 😉🙂

@tHAvIlLaMaN 2 жыл бұрын

This a great video. Really fun to watch and an incredible home theater. Love the fact how you emphasize the Journey, because that’s incredibly true. Great job, guys!

@Youthman 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks brother glad you’re enjoying the videos hope you and your family are doing well and you have a great Christmas together

@Brian_Fantastic 2 жыл бұрын

I loved seeing his journey mapped out like that. It's a good reminder that I'm still young-ish (38) and have plenty of time to take it slow and build mine up over an extended period.

@Youthman 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. Enjoy the journey!

@originalRoyalty1 2 жыл бұрын

Very nice setup and improvisation. The slideshow demo was awesome showing how it all started to current .

@gingerninja7187 2 жыл бұрын

I like the way this video was done ,the journey from the beginning, to now , obviously that’s never the end , and the guy was super nice , great video good job 👍

@abielpangga6314 2 жыл бұрын

easily my favorite tour.

@Muzzzzzle 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing set-up….🤤🤤and Great video…. Thanks for taking the time to put this together.

@kevinweithers1223 2 жыл бұрын

Another amazing tour Youthman, hats off to you. I learned quite a bit, thank you. Man, it is truly amazing to see just how many people love this hobby. These guys put my room to shame, I'm lovin' it.

@Youthman 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed the video

@Bayouslim77 2 ай бұрын

Wonderful video! I enjoyed following Chris’s journey and he’s hilarious also. Thanks for sharing with us 👍

@mrx01210 2 жыл бұрын

I have been to his room in the avsforum KC crawl in 2017 and it was one of the best sounding rooms we visited .. I think he had near field subs at the time!

@shiscarp 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ahmed!

@imissmypeep2209 2 жыл бұрын

Lordy. JUST enough subwoofers. Haha. Awesome, can't wait to see this.

@hotrodtex2124 2 жыл бұрын

I don't think I have laugh as much in a theater tour before, very entertaining and educational. Love the set up!

@Youthman 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks hot Rod glad you enjoyed the video

@michaelbutny7020 2 жыл бұрын

Michael, this is 1 of my favorite videos you have done. This is more of a hybrid video compared to the others on this tour. Nicely done.

@Youthman 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. There will be a lot of variety from this Tour. Something for everyone

@mfkhometheater7742 2 жыл бұрын

I'm up in the air on this one... somewhere between Frankfurt Germany and Houston Texas. I guess I'll watch it after I get home:-)

@xfx990 2 жыл бұрын

actually i like this way better than the sofa interview , keep it up Michael

@Youthman 2 жыл бұрын

Trying a little variety to keep it fresh

@garryhammond3117 2 жыл бұрын

Best format EVER Michael. Not for every video, but certainly for your tours. A lot of "practical" education from all of your tours, but I also love the technical info from your other vids - like how to run Room EQ.

@Youthman 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Garry. Seems like the new format has been VERY well received.

@jamiljoyner7785 2 жыл бұрын

This was awesome! The best videos in this format.

@Audiofreak71 2 жыл бұрын

Great video , awesome theater and Sheldon seems like a cool guy.

@reid1boys 4 ай бұрын

These guys are INSANE. I cant imagine what that room sounds like with all those subs. I really enjoyed the video, and like Michael said, showing us the imperfections is often the best part, because we can certainly relate. I also loved watching the journey from beginning to end. I also had a huge Mitsubishi Tv s I used to work at Good Guys back in the day and delivered those beasts. i thought I had the best Tv in the world when I got my 60"Mitts.

@johnsmith-qz4bv 2 жыл бұрын

i think he really enjoyed the journey ....i plan on ordering a pair a HT 18S early next year .....great work man ......gotta love all those subs ...

@shiscarp 2 жыл бұрын

Hey John, I really love the HT18's because they are so efficient. You don't have to spend a ton of money on amps with them. I had thought they were discontinued, it's good to see you can still get them. The price has gone up (I just looked them up) since I got mine BUT that was almost 9 years ago so I'm amazed that the price hasn't gone up a LOT more!

@uncola6028 2 жыл бұрын

great theater tour, love the story of how it changed over time

@Youthman 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you’re enjoying the videos and the new format

@FOH3663 Жыл бұрын

Just watched this again, it's just great!

@JAGoldenberg 2 жыл бұрын

Another great video tour. He put a ton of work into documenting his journey. Only thing missing was a PP with animations, fly bys and links. Lol

@DUDETHEATER 2 жыл бұрын

Mike so far this is my favorite, love the way while u guys are talking u are showing the equipment , that was very good

@shiscarp 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Wilfred!

@Youthman 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Wilfred.

@icyron27 2 жыл бұрын

Very good presentation by Sheldon and Youthman. By showing the slides and explain through rely well shared the fun and experience of the Journey! I am a fan and recent builder on HoverEZE . The TR Rocks!!!

@shiscarp 2 жыл бұрын

I agree, I have finally met my limits on bass feel with the HoeverEZe.

@Youthman 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed the video

@JustAnotherNewProject 2 жыл бұрын

YES! EXACTLY THIS! Love the slideshow "just chip away at it" story of the journey.

@Youthman 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

@redstang5150 2 жыл бұрын

The KC guys are sort of AVS famous. Cool that you're showing us their rooms. Not only are they enthusiasts, they're also motivated to constantly build and change things. I love all that stuff as well, but when it comes to whether I spend time working on my room vs using it - I always prefer to just be lazy and use it as it is. Kudos to the experimental mindset.

@shiscarp 2 жыл бұрын

You have the right mindset! Sometimes I get too wrapped up in thinking about what's next or tweaking the sound instead of just enjoying it - although I do a ton of that too.

@Youthman 2 жыл бұрын

Sometimes you just gotta stop and enjoy your system

@FOH3663 2 жыл бұрын

AVS famous... exactly! And, this KC group, they travel well. Yep, I met the KC contiginent one weekend in Philly, the Heavyweights Shootout... ... great, knowledgeable enthusiastic guys. I learned a lot that weekend. I've been looking forward to doing it again. Can't wait.

@hichamt.6262 2 жыл бұрын

great host, great story, great format. thank you all 💙

@Youthman 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@dom_delacroix7424 2 жыл бұрын

Love the build I thought I was crazy with bass. Lol. Buy learned alot in this video. Man insane theater build love it. Never need to go to the movies anymore. 🤣

@Renan_Cas 2 жыл бұрын

Michael!!! Bro...I mentioned inspiration in the last video, but this one is like literally "we're not in Kansas anymore" wow!

@mdjak3686 2 жыл бұрын

Looking forward to this one.

@garysmith8455 2 жыл бұрын

Michael, thanks so much for this presentation on your tour. I watched it from the start to finish, made me laugh at times too! Look forward to the next in the series (O:

@Youthman 2 жыл бұрын

Legends of the video game. Next one is scheduled for this Wednesday at noon eastern standard time

@garysmith8455 2 жыл бұрын

@@Youthman Thank YOU. Looking forward to the WHOLE series!

@bhrugutrivedi34 2 жыл бұрын

The hover’ez part , i was like omg this man has balls of steel 👌🙏🏻

@lboogie9362 2 жыл бұрын

Funniest video yet. (Budget was a little low) hilarious 😂. He serious about that bass no treble haha. Cool theater. Slide show was cool I can relate similar to my home theater journey. Kudos

@Lastman10101 2 жыл бұрын

Great job love the personality, in the room also.

@THEleatherface24 2 жыл бұрын

If this theater was a music group, they'd be called The Brown Notes. Awesome setup!!

@performingspecs7841 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video, I like his no-boundaries approach to achieving his dream home theater experience. I was feeling guilty about buying another subwoofer for my home theater, which I don’t really need since I already have 4 but one might be going bad , and then I watched this video and now feel good about my decision . This hobby can lead to different choices and requirements but at the end you have to be satisfied about you’ve put in to it. Great home theater and great work!

@shiscarp 2 жыл бұрын

Nice! What sub are you getting?

@performingspecs7841 2 жыл бұрын

@@shiscarp another SB16. The compact enclosure size enables me to stick them in corners and still have plenty of space. I have great even bass right now but one day I’d like to add a 18 or 24 inch in the wall for ultra low frequencies but that’s going to take a lot of work and restructuring.

@VividTheater 2 жыл бұрын

Great home theater journey video with lots of detail. I think I might have missed the part where you went over the equipment rack as I didn’t see it.

@shiscarp 2 жыл бұрын

I listed my equipment in on one of the slides, but you are right we kind of forgot to film it. I luckily have a closet on the front left of my room that has the rack and also I have a laundry room next to the HT where I put all the sub amps, which is nice because the fans in them are loud.

@ScalaneoPT 2 жыл бұрын

Love this tour... really funny and enjoyable!!

@iNeverHadMercy Жыл бұрын

Another stellar tour and inspirational video for us Audio/Video Fanatics!! And most definitely.....CONGRATS ON REACHING 100K SUBSCRIBERS !!!!

@Youthman Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@Cornell28 2 жыл бұрын

I am absolutely drooling

@sherazdotnet 2 жыл бұрын

SBuger hands down one of the best guy on AVS. Very helpful and informative.

@sheldoncarpenter1694 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed!

@jarodreddig63 2 жыл бұрын

Been meaning to come back and comment on Carp’s (that’s what I know him by on AVS) journey. Was a fantastic watch and very enjoyable. 😀👍🏻

@shiscarp 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Reddig, good to see you here! :)

@jarodreddig63 2 жыл бұрын

@@shiscarp You bet dude!

@kman7222 2 жыл бұрын

another great HT and video production

@Youthman 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@kevinicus6375 2 жыл бұрын

I still need to make it out to see this room some day.

@mikeortiz2139 2 жыл бұрын

Love that animation in the intro. The style of it.

@Youthman 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Mike

@mikeortiz2139 2 жыл бұрын

@@Youthman where's that intro from? I was trying to show my wife and I guess it was only available on the premiere.

@Youthman 2 жыл бұрын

Yes that’s a KZfaq thing.

@Youthman 2 жыл бұрын

You pick an intro when you schedule a Premiere and set the countdown length

@mikeortiz2139 2 жыл бұрын

@@Youthman Cool, thanks.

@CarlosGomez-THX_1138 2 жыл бұрын

I love it. I love it. I love it.

@mfkhometheater7742 2 жыл бұрын

Wow, that's an amazing system! Fantastic job! I'm stranded in Houston, connecting flight was delayed multiple times then cancelled, no rental cars available. Hopefully today's flight goes so I can get home and start building out my system. I'm expecting my eight Dayton Ultimax 18's to arrive this week.

@shiscarp 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Great choice, I love that Dayton driver! Are you building your own boxes or are you getting flat packs?

@mfkhometheater7742 2 жыл бұрын

@@shiscarp I have a CNC so yes I'll build my own. The plan is to put them in IB above the theater in the attic. They're going to be for about 27 Hz down, I'm putting in open baffle columns on each side of the screen with eight Newark 15" drivers in each column. The dipole woofers will carry 27 Hz to 80 Hz. The Newark's are very low cost drivers but have amazing performance in open baffle. Once everything is up and running I will add additional Newark drivers in sealed or possibly IB distributed to smooth out bass response across the listening area. All the extra woofers will be in left/right pairs each pair with its own DSP module. These woofers are only $25 each (plus I've got 30 or 40 of them already on hand) so no problem to use as many as necessary to get very uniform response. I know, "$25 woofer" but if you heard them, you would be amazed, everyone else has been. Just don't put them in a box without serious EQ, the Qts on this driver is around 2.0!

@Youthman 2 жыл бұрын

Good luck with your build.

@jvonengeln 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent room, excellent host, treasured friend.

@shiscarp 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jonathan, the same goes for you. Looking forward to your room video!

@Youthman 2 жыл бұрын

Definitely was a blessing to meet each of you and experience your Home Theaters

@shiscarp 2 жыл бұрын

@@Youthman Same Michael, so glad we did it.

@jvonengeln 2 жыл бұрын

@@Youthman I feel the same, Michael!! Thanks for doing this, and thank you for the pleasant visit even more!

@movieman247 2 жыл бұрын

If it makes you happy, go all out. Look like he had alot of fun building it.that death chair scares me...lol

@privatepropertynotrespassi3760 Жыл бұрын

Omg dream system got spl love it

@bottomup12 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve seen videos that warn against using in wall insulation in the open. The fibers can get into the room and into your lungs. Very cool room.

@shiscarp 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jeff for the info, I hadn't heard that but yikes... I'll look into it. Any links you could send me?

@BSchoneberg 2 жыл бұрын

Good stuff Sheldon! Hope you are doing well.

@shiscarp 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Brad, good to hear from you! Any changes in the theater? That was a fun trip!

@BSchoneberg 2 жыл бұрын

@@shiscarp Nothing new, just enjoying it.

@privatepropertynotrespassi3760 Жыл бұрын

Experience movies like you are literally in them!!!

@questionablediy1032 2 жыл бұрын

😂😂 the beam ! my kinda guy!

@m4nc1n1 2 жыл бұрын

I like this guy! lol

@jeremyberger06 2 жыл бұрын

We all make awesome mistakes like this, WHICH make this journey incredible! Awesome theater.

@shiscarp 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jeremy! Yeah... I've made more than my share and I'm sure I'll make more. :)

@DGPG35 2 жыл бұрын

If it was not explained what was done in that room, I would assume D-Box from the amount of movement. It certainly looks fun!

@bikdav 2 жыл бұрын

Those JBL GX1200 subwoofer drivers are a screaming deal - especially when they go on sale! I bought one for a diy home subwoofer and it is excellent. I would highly recommend one as a replacement driver for an existing powered subwoofer. I like what you did for the inwall speakers.

@shiscarp 2 жыл бұрын

For sure, those 12's are so great. It's hard to believe that you can get them for 30 bucks!! I have 4 more in storage just in case!

@bikdav 2 жыл бұрын

@@shiscarp True. I haven't seen them for $30 in over a year. But, they still are a screaming deal when they go on some sort of sale.

@gregorykuras5464 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Mike - what processors and amps did you guys use? Thank you

@WardoUSA 2 жыл бұрын

That couch bouncing is it!

@SP95 11 ай бұрын

25:35 This guy is obsessed 🤣🤣😂😂😁😁

@shiscarp 11 ай бұрын

Guilty as charged sir. 😄

@CravingTheMagic 2 жыл бұрын

Lol I like how your light is on. On your phone in your pocket. His theater was so awesome your phone wanted to see🤣😜

@Youthman 2 жыл бұрын

Haha that’s my wireless mic. Usually I have a closer shot so it’s not seen but we needed to have both of us in frame

@CravingTheMagic 2 жыл бұрын

@@Youthman got it. Man that's awesome to explore others theaters the way you are. You definitely know how to connect with others for sure.

@Youthman 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. My plan was to begin this in January of .2020 when I made the decision to go full-time content creator but the pandemic had other plans

@CravingTheMagic 2 жыл бұрын

@@Youthman hey you found your way around it and it works so I'm glad everything is working out. I'd love to hear your room now with the upgrade

@Youthman 2 жыл бұрын

You’re always welcome back over

@godofwar0312 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting ways to make it immersive.. great content. Quick q, how was the floor velvet cover built? Was thinking a carpet but velvet would be even better curious what was used to built that out

@shiscarp 2 жыл бұрын

I stapled a 17 ish foot long strip of velvet (that's how wide my room is) to two 17' long pieces of baseboard. I think the velvet is 4 feet wide, so that's how far I can come out into the room if I want to, but I don't like losing that much carpet space in front of the chairs so I roll one of the baseboards and am about 2.5 feet out into the room with the velvet. Also, it's pretty easy to get the wrinkles out because you just pull on the baseboard that's furthest from the screen and the weight of the velvet + other baseboard are enough to hold it all in place. I hope this makes sense, let me know if it doesn't. Haha, I just remembered that during the interview I took a step on the baseboard and heard a crack. I'm not too worried about it, I don't ever have a reason to walk on it and it doesn't seem to be any worse for it.

@flyers10az Жыл бұрын

How did he mount that 2x4 box to the wall for that rear speaker?

@stevemartinez960 2 жыл бұрын

It’s kool but I’m trying to figure out why it would be necessary or is it just something that they like?

@OSUFANATIC1980 9 ай бұрын

Great video! Question @shiscarp, your LCR progression was crazy! My question is once you moved from the JTR 215s back down a not why did you settle on the JBL 4722s vs going back to the JTR 210RT you had previously as you seemed to have really loved those? I'm presently trying to settle on some endgame LCR's and was thinking JTR but now thinking maybe JBL as they cheaper and maybe easier to find on used market even. Thanks!

@shiscarp 8 ай бұрын

I do love the 210's and finally got to listen to a pair of them in my room. For whatever reason my room sounds better to my ears with the wider dispersion of the 4722's. If you do go 4722's the upgraded compression driver is well worth it. I can't remember the specific model number off the top of my head but could look it up if you are planning on going that route. JTR's are awesome though. When I had both the JTR 215rt's and the JBL 4722's in my room at the same time I had quite a few people come over at different times to hear them and it was a pretty even split on preference.

@flageborg 2 жыл бұрын

This video is far better :)

@JJ-jl2sg 2 жыл бұрын

Great tour and story! How did he put the velvet on the walls? I’m debating how to do it as easily and cost effective as I can. Thanks

@shiscarp 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks JJ! I used staples. I painted them flat black and let them dry before loading them, it worked well. Hmm actually I used tacks first to get it in place how I wanted it a section at a time and then stapled. A lot of guys put the velvet on a frame panel and that style works really well too without putting holes in the wall/ceiling.

@MrYamaha413 2 жыл бұрын

guys u r crazy love your audioholics community where the size matters in this new soundbar era .. ps.- would even more fun to see sound/picture demos from the theaters ?

@Youthman 2 жыл бұрын

The difficult part with Demos is copyright issues

@MrYamaha413 2 жыл бұрын

@@Youthman i understand another new era bullshit where even background music forbidden !! what about "Fair use" and trailers are they under copyright claims too?

@jorgebetancourt1561 2 жыл бұрын

Why do is he have the but kickers and hovereze together.. Do you need both or whats the difference between both.. I have 6 butt kickers myself between 3 seats..

@Youthman 2 жыл бұрын

This hobby has never been about needs lol

@shaneducholke364 2 жыл бұрын

Another great video. In regards to the subs in the riser, is the riser also stuffed full of insulation? I have thought about doing something similar in my dual riser but don't want to rip it up for something that doesn't work well and mine is currently stuffed with insulation and has 16" 2x10 studs.

@shiscarp 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Shane! I do not have insulation in my riser. How much of a difference did it make in your room and how big is your riser? My riser is 15 inches tall, 7 feet wide and 5 feet deep. Could you put drivers in your riser and then put back as much insulation as you could after the fact?

@shaneducholke364 2 жыл бұрын

@@shiscarp My first step riser is 9" high and then another 9" for the second riser (3 rows) the bottom one is 10' wide and the top one a little more that 9' feet wide, just enough for a step with an overhang. They are built like tanks, all 2x8's, and double 3/4" plywood. I could park my truck on them. I could easily pull insulation out around the sub, as much as I can reach through the hole. I am planning to take the back row out, it has authentic cinema seats and is rarely used. Thinking about a bar with some stools in the back. I plan to put some nearfield subs behind the second row, which is the MLP row. I love your angled sub idea, I never would ha e thought of that!! I also plan to build a Devastator for the back center of the room. I always planned to put butt kickers on the risers but never got that far and this is the first time seeing your idea. Just afraid to cut holes in the riser with the inner tube and platform and not get much performance because of the insulation and how sturdy it is built. Vibrations should go through the wood but it isn't budging. Thx for your help, I absolutely loved your journey and where you are currently at.

@sherazdotnet 2 жыл бұрын

Since you friend kept messing up with you upgrading, here is another one for ya. The DIY subs you have, consider Devastators :-). These are horn loaded subs. I have 4 of them each with 21" pro drivers and they are midbass monsters. They are tuned to 18Hz but there are different versions and some go down to 16Hz. Since you have HoverBoss, 20Hz is all you need from subs and let HoverBoss do the rest. These subs are crazy good and super punchy/heart hitting bass.

@shiscarp 2 жыл бұрын

Love it! Horn subs rule. Sounds like Devastators are a happy medium between G-horns and Othorns? I've experienced both of those many times, and both are great but man that Othorn beats the crap out of your chest!! Then there is the Orbit Shifter Pro which I believe is tuned even higher than the Othorn and even more of a chest punch monster. You are correct though that I don't need sealed subs with hover. Without hover the lowest I can feel from the upfront subs is 14hz. Below that I can make the sound make terrible sounds but that's the only tangible effect, I feel nothing at the seats. So, at some point I might make a change. However I would want them behind the screen so they could only replace the space that would be left by removing 8 stacked 4 cu ft. enclosures (4 per side). I don't think there is a horn sub that would be tall and skinny like that, so I could go with a large ported sub tuned to the mid to high teens. Always interesting to think about upgrades... thoughts?

@Art-AI-and-beyond 2 жыл бұрын

Been following these guys on AVS for years and there overkill pursuit for sound perfection and all thing bass related. I'd love to have a room like this to go crazy in rather than my compromised WAF friendly living room setup with its single 12inch sub in the corner. Maybe the garden shed could do with a bit of a makeover.

@Youthman 2 жыл бұрын

Sometimes we have to sit back and enjoy what we have. 😉

@fred215 2 жыл бұрын

The extreme boss setup 🤣

@jamesjohnson2737 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. I have a Denon AVR (3700h), a Emotiva BassX 3 channel amp, and an Outlaw 7000x 7 channel amp. My speaker setup are all in ceiling. RCL front, x4 atmos, and RLrear surround. I want to add a passive soundbar (Episode ES-300-SNDBR) to the front stage to bring the sound to ear level. My AVR is currently powering all speakers but, I want the 7 ch. amp to power the ceiling front LRC and x4 Atmos speakers. I want the 3 chan amp to power the lower LRC sounbar. Can I use this method or do you have another method to split the LRC pre-out signal from the AVR?

@Dannyboy623 2 жыл бұрын

Yes. But the 3700 can only process 11 channels total. Use emotiva for your front 3 in the soundbar Use the outlaw for the surrounds and 4 Atmos. Connect both external amplifiers using rca interconnects. Just a heads up the 3700h only has one trigger out so you’ll need to connect the 3700h to emotiva with trigger , and then emotiva to the outlaw via trigger cable. You’ll have to let the AVR power one speaker

@jamesjohnson2737 2 жыл бұрын

@@Dannyboy623 Thanks Daniel! I'm gonna try your solution. I'll keep posted.

@rodneywright2577 2 жыл бұрын

After this trip it looks like you need to step up your game at home in Florida . Ha Ha

@Youthman 2 жыл бұрын

Florida Tour is in January. I’m not sure we are as crazy as these Northern guys

@shiscarp 2 жыл бұрын

@@Youthman I blame it on Florida's lack of basements!! 😄

@brnmaull 2 жыл бұрын

Damm that's an insane amount of subwoofers. All about the bass! I do got a question 4 you. I have the hoverboss and the magnets fit under the seat because they are not electric. I'm upgrading my seats soon and I will not be able to fit.. I'm planning to either do the cantilevered setup which you have for your front seats or I'm thinking about building a riser and put the subs in riser then the tube then plywood on top of tube then seats. What one do you think feels more natural the cantilevered or the riser with tube and plywood? One more question is the riser itself closed in or is it open?

@shiscarp 2 жыл бұрын

I think that both cantilevered and riser feel great, however using the cone up method is more efficient so if you need even more headroom than you have now you would get it. I have cone up in my back row under the couch and I prefer the cantilevered front row because it feels more like I am moving all over instead of more just up an down (not completely up and down, but that's the easiest way to describe it. It's not a huge difference though and like I said, both are great. That answer wasn't great, haha, honestly if it were me I would try it both ways and see what you like more. I know that's extra work but it's the only way to be sure! My riser is open. I do get bass spl from the riser drivers, but I have timed it to blend pretty well and it's not a ton of spl. Same thing with the front row hover drivers, although they put out less spl.

@brnmaull 2 жыл бұрын

@@shiscarp Thank you man! Have a good holiday.

@sherazdotnet 2 жыл бұрын

Another question. The panel covering side surround (or wides), is that covered with Black Velvet? Asked since Black Velvet are not acoustically transparent and wondering if there is a special black velvet that is in fact AT?

@sheldoncarpenter1694 2 жыл бұрын

It is acoustically transparent fabric so no worries there, I have read on the "blacker the theater the better the image" thread on avs that there is some velvet out there now that is AT, but if I remember right it isn't as dark and doesn't look that great compared to say JoAnn's royal 3.

@sherazdotnet 2 жыл бұрын

@@sheldoncarpenter1694 you might have read my post :-). I recently conducted a test and it came out much more AT. Well I saw no difference with/without the material in REW reading. As for darker black, I can't see much difference. I'm in the middle of treating my room acoustically. Once I'm done, I will try to bring black velvet back that I tested and see if that changes anything tonality wise. I used to have Black velvet from screen all the way up to MLP but that made the room to dead. So I ripped it all off and then left 3' around screen and on side walls and on carpet/ceiling.

@shiscarp 2 жыл бұрын

@@sherazdotnet Hey this is still me, I was at school earlier and have to use my school google account because under this name youtube comments are blocked. Ha! Yep, must have been your post that I'm remembering. That would help me out because I'm blocking part of one of my 2 15" drivers (under the screen) on each of my 4722n LCR speakers. It's not a huge deal, I'm down around 1.5 average db's between 400 and 800 hz, so I just boost that area back up but still it bugs me. Hmmm.. I've heard that before that too much velvet can deaden the room but I didn't notice that at all for some reason in my room. Can't auto EQ just boost back in the absorbed highs? Or does the mic not pick up those reflections very well?

@tc-vo5ux 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Sheldon, You have been fortunate enough to actually hear both the JTR 215rt and their smaller models. For hometheater which would be the better way to go. Three matching 210rt-212rt, or the larger 215rt and matching center?

@shiscarp 2 жыл бұрын

If it were me I'd get the 210 RT's. All of the JTR speakers are fantastic but I like the easier to place smaller speakers and for some reason my ears like the 210's just slightly more than the others especially for music. Doug feels the same way, he is in the video before mine and goes by d_c on avsforum if you want to ask him his impressions of the JTR's he has heard. He owns the 210's and says they are his all time favorite speaker. Unless you have a massive theater room I don't think you will need the higher sensitivity that the 212's have. Oh.. also you save some money with the 210 rt's.

@tc-vo5ux 2 жыл бұрын

@@shiscarp thank you for your help

@ML-qq9jl 2 жыл бұрын

Love these tours! @Youthman @shiscarp can you track down one of the people you're referring to when you say Sheldon's is weak sauce? haha what does extreme look like that Sheldon has heard about? Also great choice to test it out with Metallica, put on Dyers Eve for a good sub workout! :) 🤟

@sheldoncarpenter1694 2 жыл бұрын

Ah yes, Dyers Eve. Their last song on their last masterpiece album. All kick drum bass, no bass guitar to be found! I don't care though, I'm one of the few that loves the production of that album. I think Michael would have a blast touring a guy's room like Luke (lukeamdman on avsforum) up in Minneapolis with his 154 db low bass in his theater. Seriously, we measured 125 db's in the kitchen upstairs and 105 db's in the middle of his back yard with all the doors and windows shut, haha. We all wore ear plugs that day while getting demo's in the room, the feel was insane.

@ML-qq9jl 2 жыл бұрын

@@sheldoncarpenter1694 haha insane! It's like the car audio guys are doing DB competitions at home now. Also an old school Metallica fan, so I agree! Great video, enjoy some time with it over Christmas. Cheers!

@tracyherbert2978 2 жыл бұрын

Can you tell what kind of black velvet fabric you are you using?

@shiscarp 2 жыл бұрын

I've tried replying twice and it keeps disappearing... it's JoAnn's Royalty 3 Velvet

@tkcdac Жыл бұрын

@@shiscarp Thank you, I will use some of this. How did you attach it to the walls? Did you cover some thin wood and stick it to it using glue??

@shiscarp Жыл бұрын

@@tkcdac Most guys make panels using 1x2's and then attach panels to the walls or ceiling. I just stapled directly to the walls/ceiling. I used tacks first to get it tight and then when I got a small amount of velvet where I wanted I used staples and then removed the tacks. If I had it to do over again I would go all panels.

@ibrahimh.m2871 2 жыл бұрын

i loved Kevin Bacon more then the theater room

@homeboi808 2 жыл бұрын

I’m sure there is some baffle step effect with the insulation, but likely not enough as being actually in-wall.

@shiscarp 2 жыл бұрын

That’s kind of where my head was at, I know it’s not truly a baffle wall but I think you still get some of the benefits?

@homeboi808 2 жыл бұрын

@@shiscarp yeah, bass frequencies are still going to be wrapping around the cabinet, but higher midrange notes will have some absorption happening. This is better than actually putting them in-wall as the then you really would be messing with the baffle step and the response & tonal balance would be different.

@tracyherbert2978 2 жыл бұрын

Can you please tell how did he hook up all those subs to his av receiver or preamp?

@shiscarp 2 жыл бұрын

I'm running the 8 18's off a single Cerwin Vega CV amp. It is running in 2 ohms which I've read can limit amp life but I've been abusing the heck out of that amp for going on 9 years and have had zero issues. The CV 5000 puts out 5000 watts in 2 ohms so each 18" driver is getting 625 watts which doesn't sound like much but these drivers (Stereo Integrity HT18's) are extremely efficient and are rated for 750 watts RMS. I know guys that give them over 1000 watts each, but that would only give me less than 3 db's more and I don't need the extra output anyway. With the 12 inch hover drivers I have the 8 drivers in the front row (2 drivers per chair) powered with an inuke 3000dsp, 4 drivers per channel. I have a second inuke 3000dsp that on one channel powers the drivers in the rear seat riser and on the other channel powers the drivers in the seat backs on the front row.

@tracyherbert2978 2 жыл бұрын

@@shiscarp Thank you

@squared80 Жыл бұрын

I think Michael needs to do an updated tour of this theater, along with Ryan's.

@Youthman Жыл бұрын

Sheldon, Ryan and Jonathan have made a lot of changes to their rooms. We will be visiting all three with the VIP Gold and Platinum attendees, but I won’t be doing a tour video of it during MWAVE.

@nickgiordano6518 2 жыл бұрын

Mike, I Stopped going to the theater many years ago but my family used to go every other week and dropped $70 plus gas wear and tare, i figure I save $2,000 a year so I’ve been rerouting it into the hobby to afford all of it.

@Youthman 2 жыл бұрын

That’s awesome. Nothing wrong with that

@juliarose276 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Youthman: I really liked the format of this show, i.e. it was nice seeing his progression and how he did things, of course. But, I was real dissappointed, after sitting through this whole show, that you never showed his equipment. I am interested, as well, with what sound equipment he is using and his rack. I'm often surprised, in many of these home theatres that you present, the lack of high end equipment. I would have liked to see how he weighs in the audio into his system. Thanks for the great effort you are making in showing what others are doing. Appreciate it.

@Youthman 2 жыл бұрын

Honestly I’m not sure how we forgot that lol. Check the description for a list of his equipment. I Also posted it in the video in one of his slides

@sherazdotnet 2 жыл бұрын

When you moved from JTR 215 to JBL 4722n with upgraded CD, what diffenences (good or bad) did you notice? I am asking because I have 4722N as my L/C/R for a few years now and love them but I have never had any JTR Stuff. Also can you also share the difference b/w SCS-8 to the JBL SP8ll? I have the same issue. I have 8 SCS-8 in my room and my room is only 12' wide and ~8' tall so you can imagine how much of space its eating up :-).

@sheldoncarpenter1694 2 жыл бұрын

Ok... so they are a lot more alike than different. With the stock 4722n CD's I thought that for movies I couldn't tell much of a difference, other than the fact that I like the wider 90 degree dispersion of the 4722 but for music I thought the JTR's were smoother and more pleasing to listen to. A lot of the guys on avs (on the 4722n thread there is a lot of info about it) have swapped out the stock CD with a 2453h-sl compression driver thanks to Notnyt's recommendation. I did the same 5 years ago and to me it was well worth it, especially for music - so smooth but you still get the great cinema type sound for movies.

@sherazdotnet 2 жыл бұрын

@@sheldoncarpenter1694 haha same here. Rob has helped a lot of guys on that thread. Good to hear that 4722N stood neck to neck with JTR 215. These things though are just too big :-). Wish I had a 16' wide room.

@shiscarp 2 жыл бұрын

@@sherazdotnet Haha, sounds like you and I read the same threads. In my opinion you and I are done upgrading LCR!! 5 years now I've had these and don't even think about making a change, that has never happened to me before! :)

@shiscarp 2 жыл бұрын

@@sherazdotnet Oh wait.. I see you are saying the 4722's are too big I thought you were talking about the 215's being too big. In that case... I would seriously think about the JTR 210 RT's. They are actually my favorite of any of the JTR speakers and I've heard almost all of them. Maybe it's the fact that they are so much easier to place in a room or it's just placebo because I like their look, but Doug (his room has the horns in the attic, the video just before mine) has the 210's in his basement and he agrees, he likes them better than all other JTR's. You do lose a lot of sensitivity, I think they are 95. However, JTR does sensitivity different than JBL. The 212's HTR (non towers) I used to own are rated at 101 but are actually a db louder than the 4722n's which are rated at 104. I think the 210's would have all the output you would ever need and they sound so great. If I had to choose between them and our 4722's it would come down to application - and in your case if they fit better I say go for it!

@sherazdotnet 2 жыл бұрын

@@shiscarp Well 4722N do fit the space and I still get ~20" b/w L/C/R so I think I'm giving them enough space. Oh I like the sound of 4722N so much that I don't know if I want to take a chance with JTR 212. I'm sure they are good but if I let go 4722N, I might not be able to go get them back because they are discontinued now :-). I'm in fact thinking of doing the baffle wall to make them shine even more. I Love Love Love the sound stage 4722N produce. I have combo panels (absorbers up to 600Hz and diffusers above it at 1st reflection of Center and contralateral of L/R and my room just disappears. I also have other room treatments around back/surrount/ceiling and keeping the room alive and 4722N shine.

@castro619a 2 жыл бұрын

I saw some theatre speakers for $500 but i have no room for anything that size lol

@nosaj9167 2 жыл бұрын

Nice

@avgeek8810 2 жыл бұрын

Is it just me or are the microphones making popping sound all the time?

@psyphonyxaudio 2 жыл бұрын

Setting my alarm

@Youthman 2 жыл бұрын

😉

@SKIRTERK 2 жыл бұрын

By the way ... low frequencies do not cause hearing damage... only high frequencies just a FYI

@Youthman 2 жыл бұрын

You may want to Google that. Lots of data saying it can if it’s loud enough.

@jaywaller9125 2 жыл бұрын

Much better intro Brother Michael!

@Youthman 2 жыл бұрын

I’m trying

@markodom4379 2 жыл бұрын

Guess I can dream.

@Youthman 2 жыл бұрын

Dreams come true

@donschmid3003 2 жыл бұрын

Y'all need to look into Musou black paint... Velvet may be easier and more cost effective but there are other options for your black hole :-)

@shiscarp 2 жыл бұрын

I have heard about that, is it very easy to mark up/scratch/etc? I think it would be fun to try something like that because if it's what I'm thinking it's actually less reflective than velvet is.

@shakineclipse 2 жыл бұрын

@@shiscarp I’m not sure of its durability it’s just freakishly weird paint that looks like nothing I’ve ever seen before.