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The image in the thumbnail definitely does not represent _Homo erectus_ -- why not use an _H. erectus_ image in a video about _H. erectus_ ?

Its so confusing if there were people In Indonesia for so long and the Australian Aborigines have only been there for 80000 years it doesn't make sense . How did Australia's stay so isolated when we were hooked up to the rest of the world with the land bridge

Evolution is fiction.

I think as he said the parent species & child coexist. What if it was Disease from the child that killed the parent

I have a few neighbours that act and look exactly like this too

Sadly, it’s not an isolated occurrence.

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U must live in(Boer)-South Africa . 👾

Are they all Brexit voters. 🤔

I'm a "armchair" and I don't know anything really, I know a few things but not like this guy, but I do know what you are saying because I get talked down when I get to speaking about something I know about, and I no longer get upset about it because eventually I'm right, not being arrogant about it, and what really makes me laugh is when they ask either Siri or Alexa after they asked me when I give them the answer and they give them the same answer 🙄🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

But what's the actual point if science is both so uncertain & imprecise. Such Academics then risk coming across to the average layperson as being utter ignoramuses and probably mere charlatans!

@@cyankirkpatrick5194 me too. I'm known as the "whacky professor" in my largely ignorant, lower decile neighbourhood. Unlike these gutless boffins, I am not afraid to share my out of left field opinions. However even axioms are often dismissed as so much gibberish by my uneducated neighbours. I always preface anything unproven with, "this may sound a little odd to you, yet ...". Professor John McNabb should keep in mind, while on KZfaq, that he is neither under: cross examination as an expert legal witness, or academic peer review. I believe that he discounts himself. And i humbly suggest, that if in any doubt, his ilk instead say that, "although I am not absolutely certain, my best educated guesstimate is ...". Otherwise it's all rather academic and a seemingly big waste of time. So much hot, stinky air.

Exactly. You see this so often now in the podcast era where for example, every other guest on the Joe Rogan podcast is some grifter proclaiming to KNOW some "secret knowledge" about some thing. They often use the fact that real experts readily admit they "don't know" all the facts by saying, "SEE?! THEY EVEN ADMIT THEY DON'T KNOW! BUT I DO! blah blah blah by my book/video/podcast series for the real ancient knowledge!".

@@julianpalmer4886 Its about being honest and not making shit up. We dont know is the answer until we DO know.

Agreed. Saying “I don’t know” creates more trust then any other statement out there.

Bacon isn't overrated.

Are you suggesting that he's keeping the religious folk happy? It seemed pretty obvious to me where his beliefs lie! And that is that we well and truly evolved from our Ape friends!

What the fuck? Nobody is or could argue anything else lol. What he's unsure of is whether we evolved specifically from Homo Erectus like many scientist believe we did or whether it was another similar ancestor. Whatever the case Homo Erectus is our close relative, anything with the prefix Homo is, technically they are "Huamns".

It's just basic science.

This has always been the case..🤷‍♂️ Science is there to be disproven,hence peer review..🤷‍♂️

Maybe you’re just new to discussions such as these, since that’s usually the norm cadence for any professional scientist.

@@Talleyhoooo, I am actually a professional scientist. The problem isn't so much that scientists haven't been doing this within the field, the problem is that we haven't been doing this when it comes to public communication. Scientific knowledge has always kind of been presented to the public as dogma, particularly when I was a kid in the early 90s, rather than an ongoing process with continuing uncertainty and questions. That's what I was commenting on.

@@troykuersten2831 lol come on, you’re not a professional scientist dude… Don’t lie, just defend your opinions

@@Talleyhoooo, I'm actually a professor of Astronomy, you can look me up. Why is your first instinct to jump to personal attacks?

Imagine a peaceful and quiet afterlife for millions of years then we turn up with our culture wars

@@docastrov9013I fairly doubt there was anything "peaceful" about living in the wilderness.

And decribing the "creature" as primitive, stupid, and ugly.

All those apes running around on their knuckles are apes not early man. What they don't tell students is when Darwin was on his death bed he called for an Episcopal priest and received Last Rites.

@@chaplainsoffice6907 - And.........? (But you are correct. Early Hominidae as far back as the Australopithecus folk were upright walkers. Remember Lucy? She is an A. Afarensis. However, the Apes split into several pathways. An earlier split led to the 'Lesser Apes", the Gibbons. The "Great Apes" went down several parallel pathways - one path eventually leading to Gorillas and Orangutans; another eventually leading to Chimpanzees, Bonobos, and Homo Sapiens. All of these species remain in the Primate / Ape category.)

Especially the large, hairy, one.

I searched to see if anyone else spotted that... right on bruv!

Ditto!

Well they did live a long time ago in a galaxy far far away. So we’re probably their descendants.

Haha I caught that too... apparently the person in charge of editing isn't an anthropologist!

Hmm I wonder why... 😅😅😅

And it's smiling too!!! 😆

Homo Erectus was taller and less hairy along with a drastically different skull.

I know it’s common for species that branches off of one to still coexist with the original or a cousin. But it’s still weird to wrap my head around since Homo sapiens sapiens are the last one’s standing. Like (most likely) some erectus members developed into heidelbergensis and then some of those developed in our ancestor sapiens and also neanderdenisovans (who then split into Neanderthals and denisovans, where denisovans mixed with another super archaic hominin - my guess is Homo erectus - before mixing occasionally with Neanderthals and then out of Africa Homo sapiens). All the while there still woulda been overlapping time where erectus communities could run into any one of their descendant species, and those descendants ran into each other, and everyone was having a lot of prehistoric sex and well, here anatomically modern humans are with trace DNA of that history It’s tenuous and hard to prove but I read the language gene likely existed in Homo erectus, maybe it started with them and they were the first to really speak, while Homo habilis and Australopithecus grunted. So if they could, and we know we can and Neanderthals could and do probably heidelbergensis and denisovans could, how developed was language then even? It’s hard enough learning a different language between our own species, how would communication barriers work between species that have differently developed brains? That don’t have behavioral modernity vs those that do? Also What animal species exist today that has that overlap, if any? Where the ancestor species still co-exists in time with a descendant or sub species. I know there are plenty Im just blanking on specific examples

@@BlueMax507 Russians are proof that Germans did.

@Max actually we did. They never actually died out, just got mixed out.

They went exstinct 50 thousand years ago

We were ?? What does it mean ? They were what we are now...doesn't it ?

That is definitely a stormtrooper helmet. Old mate clearly has a good sense of humour 😂

Noticed that. Didn't see a Predator though :/

it was a time long ago

war between species, homo sapiens are known for their barbaric and wage war to each other. Most hominim are tribals group with small populations, maybe 20-50 persons per group. And also they married each other and make their gene pool quite pure. But for what I know that The Hobbit in Flores were wipeout by Homo Sapiens by their old folk songs where those Hobbits try to kidnapp child and they burn them down. They were featured like small, with wide face and wide nose.

I imagine that there could many reasons for their exctinction... Remember they are hominids, you can be perfectly adapted and still go extinct. It could range from bad leadership or lack of resources to simply bad luck or annihilation. Nature is terribly cruel. People too.

We as a planet have experienced 16 civilization ending cataclysms in just the last 150k years. Imagine if we could go back 2 million years to find out how many asteroids, biblical floods, climate disasters have nearly wiped out us in the early years. Its frankly a miracle we are here.

We are they. They are we. They evolved into us. They didnt go extinct, basically. Not in the same way H. Neanderthalenis went extinct.

​@Michael-du2fv biblical floods? Pretty sure there's still never been a worldwide flood that covered the mountains.

You believe correctly. Every living species is still and will always be evolving.

We are the pinnacle at this moment in time.

Our brains are actually getting smaller through a process that might be smiliar to domestication

Aka, he’s acting like a scientist

propaganda experience

Art is a concept.. If an individual put red from a food sorce on its face to express some emotion, I would call that art.. i think we would see the beginnings of artistic expression very early. Maybe none were carving David, but id bet we would recognize art ,in some form anywhere we find culture.

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Yes, I’ve always wondered that too. I mean small dogs & large dogs have the same level of intelligence, but just look at the variations in the size of brain.

That’s a good argument. The same can said about the debate on neanderhals vs sapiens. The size of their brains were not the same, and they looked different, but were most likely on the same level, and shared many cultural traits.

@@stefanthorpenberg887 Neanderthals had larger brains than us (Sapiens).

it's understood now that corvids are very clever and their brains are teeny compared to ours. The quality is better than the capacity.

I was going to make a similar comment. Intelligence is far less about brain size than it is about neuron density. This is why corvids and some parrots are far more "intelligent" than much bigger species and why border collies are smarter than say huge headed Rottweilers for example.

Some Australian Aborigines have a distinct brow ridge.

Even a thrown regular stone upsets the evolutionary arms race.

I don't think it's out of the question, but I doubt it was a common thing they did, since it took a long time to make a handaxe, and you'd want to keep them with you. Also Homo erectus didn't have the evolutionary pressures to develop proper throwing, later species were better at it, but it wasnt until Homo sapien that we actually became adapted to throwing

The hand axes I saw at Olorgesailie were of rather finer manufacture than the ones in the youtube viddy, and all the ones present were below the beach shelf, ie in deep water. No axes or giant hippo bones on the beach. I read an article about an experiment done in Belgium where a grad student made plaster casts of hand axes@@thychozwart2451

It's lies. Subjective reconstructions aren't science. It's like modern art but with a veneer of "science" to dazzle the gullible.

@@scintillam_dei 🤨???

@@parisfrance6483 This is macro-evolutionist propaganda. I prove the Neanderthal and such, are lies, in Part 2 of my series "Greeks, Latins, Iberians and Jews were, and are, NOT BLOND!" I also undermine their claims of millions of years. I used to be subjected to such indoctrination attempts in public schools growing up in the USA a long time ago... but I questioned what I was taught, while my peers fell like flies, because when you stand for nothing, you can fall for anything; even racist garbage like Darwin's. Got a video proving he worshipped Satan.

You can find that online Sapiens are close to the tallest though Neanderthals where bigger. Erectus is a fair bit shorter than us.

@@scintillam_dei dude seriously... all I said was ( I just would like to see skeletons of each species of what people think is correct ). 😐

We are very tribal as a whole. Some of us fear differences and others embrace curiosity, challenge, and the beauty in our differences. I’d imagine it was no different back then. What little evidence we have doesn’t argue against it. The evidence shows their were multiple branches, interbreeding, multiple migrations in and out of Africa and Asia into and from Europe. We have dna sequences from 3 and have evidence that we are missing at least one more in south east Asia. Geological disasters, climate change, population growth, etc….. would have been factors reducing population in areas and perhaps forcing different species/subspecies to interbreed or die off. Very interesting to see new information with our growing knowledge.

I think we mainly outcompeted and perhaps killed them too. Our ancestors were just better at doing everything and surviving in those times was not always easy, there was constant competition with other animals and other groups of hominids, since we probably had a very similar diet too. Think about how humans can kill without second thoughts and be merciless in war, this is similar to the situation our ancestors lived in, because survival was a constant war with other animals; it's either you, your family, your friends, your group, or them. This is how I view it, but I am no expert, to put it mildly.

@@IosifStalinsendsyoutoGulagit’s such an interesting questions. I understand why we develop instincts to kill for survival but I do wonder eventually if we will slowly lose a lot of our aggression.

Wow. Dude! Hold on! That is a grave insult to the intelligence of homo etectus.

Please do tell?

Yes. Enlighten us. 😄

In what way, please enlighten

The genetic evidence overwhelmingly supports the out of Africa theory.

While hominin evolution is quite a mosaic, with many species migrating all around Africa and Eurasia, the evidence is overwhelmingly clear that Africa is the origin point for Homo sapiens, as well as our genus's progenitors the Australopithecines.

That’s because your timeline is off. The subject is focused on Erectus.