Love hearing that haha. Sometimes I think maybe ill get something else, then I drive it and I'm like, no way, I love this car way too much 😂

I love this because I just bought my del sol 2 days ago

Ports your car now 2 years later

I have a couple videos that need to be uploaded after the build!

Very ahead of it's time. And I am a sucker for targas so I agree with you there

Find me an s2k, it's what I really want

S2K is big bro. I own a si del sol & always considered Honda s2k as big bro. 💪i actually have the tan S2000 seats in my del sol.

@@whoone9211 I bet those look super rad

Sadly an s2k is nowhere as cheap as the del sol or a Miata from where I’m at they go for like 15-16 grand

@@turyy9063 yeah they're about the same here. Little too rich for my blood

I think so too man, I have so many people trying to buy mine off me

Yeah? I have two about to purchase a 3rd all run all different yrs.

Don’t want to sound like a crazy person.... there are folks who let it go to waste and I enjoy restoring them

@@dand00n83 I'm having a lot of fun restoring mine so I see the appeal haha

I found one for $650

Appreciate that! We both love both cars so much its really hard to pick a winner. But we hoped just stating some basic comparisons like size, drive train and storage space, what would help people pick the better car for them

@@scooch988 I noticed you guys were saying 90hp. Miata is actually 116ish. I wonder if it'd be the same thoughts if you had tested the single cam del sol. I guess comfort and space would still be the same so it'd win there.

@@VancouverOldschool haha yea we found that out after our hp numbers were a little off. I definitely tried to really express these engines were very different and there aren't as many DOHC Sols to pick from. And yea the space in the delsol is mindblowing compared to the miata. I never realize how different it was until I went back to back like this

Can't say I disagree with you, if it only it was rwd haha

I couldn't agree more. If you don't have a lot of people or things to pile in, you really can make it a decent daily driver. I hope to have mine for a very long time. Video of the new wheels will be released soon then I can get the rust fixed

I’m looking for a first car and looked at a del sol, any tips for he to look out for?

@@tonybanana4016 other than the basic car stuff like paying attention to the mileage, making sure all the lights work, and checking for any strange sounds coming from the engine when it’s turned on. I would say, check to see if there are any crazy mods put on it, that could possibly mean that the car might have been treated rough by the owner, also if their’s anything that’s “fixed” by being zip tied, or duct taped that’s a bad sign. Check the fluids, like the clutch, power steering, coolant, and oil. If they’ve all been topped off or look clear and don’t have gunk, that’s good, and if the engine is clean and not super dirty is a very good sign it’s been taken care of, but if it is dirty that’s probably fine. I’m not really a huge expert on this and I’m not going to pretend to be, that’s just some of the things that come to mind. If you want some more advice I recommend checking out donut media’s video on what to look for when buying a new vehicle.

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@@tonybanana4016 everything that @ChrispyKing said are all very good points. Things to look for on a DelSol specifically would be rust anywhere on the rear fender Wells, specifically the back corner on the seam that connects to the rear bumper. Also check the rocker panels, those tend to rot out on sols. Learn the different engines. There are 3. Know which engine you're getting. Some people try to sell off a d16 VTEC as if it's the same as a B16. It's not. They're very different. So know which engine is in the car before you buy it. All the engines are good, but they all make different amounts of power. Check to see how the timing belt looks and when it was last done. But everything else mentioned was very good and will apply to any car

Highly recommend getting one, the NAs are my favorite looks wise. But if you can ever pick up a Mazda speed model, I think those were the NBs but I could be mistake. Get a very tuneable turbo engine out of the factory. Really fun cars

Can't beat that VTEC haha. Yea the Miata is super short though. And agreed. When I first got in it I'm like, wow this is small cause I was comparing it to my FRS. Then I got in the Miata and was like woowwwwwww. THIS is small

Congrats man! Love to see people not only keeping these things running, but keeping them pure with the proper engines. 195 is perfect for these

Yeah it's a little bigger which is nice. I barely fit in the Miata. But the delsol is more than comfortable

Appreciate the in depth comment. It will be useful for those looking at these two cars and I should have gone more in depth when I mentioned this. Because you're correct, the DelSol, was very ahead of it's time. But when making this video I had the mindset of what consumers are used to this day in age and by those standards it is a dinosaur. I may actually make a follow up video because of this comment so I appreciate that

Thanks! Yea I absolutely love mine. Josh sadly had to sell his miata recently but one of our other friends bought it so thankfully it stayed in the family!

Thanks Jason! I think I made the right choice too, except when I'm in the mood to do some sliding😉

You're a lucky man. I would have loved to own this car new. I do think its funny though, i never would have bought one unless I NEEDED a small daily good on gas. They didn't even come to mind when I was searching for stuff. I was looking at every honda except the delsol just because I forgot about it. And now I love it more than ever. Definitely one of the most fun cars I've ever owned

I also am an original owner of a 1997 Del Sol Si. It's been my daily driver for 27 years now.

@@BrandonGolets Then what I said is nothing new to you. I will at sometime replace the seats and move up one wheel size to 15 inch. I have been told that the 15 is the best সাইজ.

@@BrandonGolets Miss keyed the last word

Agreed, these older honda performance engines really do make some incredible sounds, especially in vtec. I never tire of that crossover

Can't say I blame you, nothing better than being able to slide at will!

Thanks! And yea from what I’ve read it was about 70k but it’s been so many years who knows how accurate it is haha

I'm with you haha, I'm not much of a convertible guy but I love targas. Probably cause vehicles still retain their shape whereas convertibles give this elongated look that I'm not a fan of. And the pop ups are great but I love rwd so I'd still say the Miata checks that box for me. But hey everyone's different. Both great cars none the less!

Excuse me? I have a s2000 sir

@@abrahamfabela8457 i love s2000s, but itd HAVE to have the hardtop lol

Thats so cool you've had it for so long. I hope to have mine forever

I envy you, you have the best of both worlds 😂

Agreed, they're not fast but there's something about how these old homda drive thats so addicting. Its like nothing else on the road and I love it

Thank you!

Either one of these will bring more smiles to your face than you can imagine. But having the ability to slide around is a great reason to go Miata. It's gonna be a long 3 years but it will be well worth the wait. Thanks for the positive comment!

Haha sounds like you're facing the same dilemma as me!

@@scooch988 yeah lol i still imagine both of them being pretty fun to drive tho

Thats so sick! Best of both worlds right there. When the miata is done definitely send pics to my Instagram @scooch988. Id love to see it

I'll be honest. I think about how I wish the DelSol was rear wheel drive, a lot. And if it was mid engine that would just be the holy Grail. But I'm so grateful they made it the way they did. Because I don't think I'd get a chance to enjoy mine like I do now. If they made it even just rwd it would have surely outshined the Miata and would come with a fat "drift tax" like the miata, 240sx etc. But then again maybe if it was more successful they would still be making it today which would be wicked cool

@@scooch988 Do miata's have drift tax over there?.... Here in EU they are hella cheap, Delsol's are super cheap in Holland and UK... UK is a goldmine for jdm cars, u could literally buy a SIR delsol for under 1000£$ or a miata for like 500/1000 bucks or so. Most sol's are getting parted out, people dont like them and since we got only 1.6 d16 si and b16 SIR, they all get used as swap cars for civic's.

@@DeUnoReverseKaart haha that's so dumb. Why bother taking the good engine out a DelSol when the DelSol is so much cooler than a regular Civic haha. Like just take the b series out of a crv or something. And yea anything rwd in the us has the drift tax unfortunately

@@scooch988 I think they do that because 99% of al civic's(ed,eg,ek etc) are d-serie's with drumbrakes 242mm and crv b20 without vtec.. A delsol is the cheapest option if you want a complete b serie vtec swap here.... They also find the delsol a fake honda 🙄 delsol is kind of a underdog in EU. But i dont care t.b.h, only a couple left including mine and they are only rising in value 🤷🏼‍♂️

@@DeUnoReverseKaart that's too bad, I feel like the DelSol in reality was a flop, I personally think they should have made it rear wheel drive and mid engined like the MR2. It would have been the legend of it's time. But it still brings a smile to my face every time I drive it and it's definitely a true Honda haha. Glad to see at least you're enjoying yours haha

Oh yea I believe it, these 90s Honda engines were something else. The D I pulled out of my swap car also had no vtec and I really was pretty impressed with its performance

Yeah theyre always climbing. Delsols are tough cause they didn't make many of them. Depending on where you're located always look south of you. Less snow means less rust usually. Even if you have to drive a little

If you're not burning oil, you're not hitting vtec enough haha

Agreed, I remember seeing a DelSol at an auto cross event before I got mine and he was sideways more than once. And even he wasn't sideways one of the rear tires was off the ground haha. I feel like fwd is more difficult to control than people think when it comes to performance driving

@@scooch988 Very much so. At least with a Rear wheel drive you just spin out , but I meant understeer in my last comment. You get understeer when you come in too fast or too slow. If you don't predict entry and exit of the corner, you'll just plow right into it

@@bobwarpath2395 yeah understeer is my least favorite. But I'm no stranger to it hahaha

Yeah I mean I definitely wouldn't want either one as my only car but I love how small they are for weekend warriors or a second car as a daily

Thanks! Appreciate the positive feedback. Got some more content in the works for the coming weeks!

Yeah I think it all comes down to what the end goal is with the car. If you want to slide you have to go Miata. But if that's not overly important to you the sol is more fun in my opinion, plus like I mentioned, it's a little bigger

@@scooch988 and also its so rare, kinda invest here hahah

Only driven a solstice a very short distance but definitely a lot of fun. It's the only convertible I had trouble seeing out the back of 😂

I think you’re making the right choice!! Haha

Ayyy there ya go. In my opinion that's the hard one to find since they didn't make as many. You're gonna love the Miata when you get it!

Thanks for the comment. Honestly highly recommend one of these or any Civic/CRX/Integra. You can even find a Porsche 944 or any number of mustangs or Camaros. Fun cars with a lot of aftermarket support and fairly cheap. Talking under 5 grand depending on the condition

Thanks man! Now you just gotta choose haha

@@scooch988 i have a del sol but i was 👌 that close to getting an nb. I still prefer nb miata but the sol is still amazing!

@@austin4046 I'm just in the Miata for the rwd. The delsol beats it on all other aspects. If they made it rwd it would have bested Miata on all terms and actually been a mini s2k

@@scooch988 true. With the 2nd gen miata you get slightly more cabin space, more hp and overall refinement with equal or better handling than the 1st gen. Also, i have the slowest possible del sol, the 93 s. So i have about the same amout of horses as the miata, maybe slightly more. im sure the vtec blows it out of the water, but miata beats Del sol S

@@austin4046 Miata today beats any delsol below the VTEC model. My thing is if you like sliding the Miata is your car. If you don't care, delsol VTEC is your car

Oh I bet, I can't get enough of this thing. Hopefully one day I can squeeze a little more power out of her

I go back and forth but I do love the miata, just for what it offers. But sometimes I think once the suspension is dialed in and I really get to drive it hard on some back roads I might change my mind

I always tell people, no matter what the car is, your first mods should be contributing to your end goal for the car. I personally like a car that handles well and is functional. I'll usually go with a catbsck, lowering springs/coils and wheels and tires. The DelSol to me handles great but it definitely could be a little stiffer. So I'll be doing coils in the very near future. And that will be my first performance mod for this car so I'm pretty excited. Hope this helps!

Scooch awesome thanks so much

Yea definitely depends on how you wanna use it. I'm still not a fan of fwd but as a daily driver its not noticeable. And hondas arguably do fwd the best out of anyone. So you can still throw this into corners and even get some oversteer

If the delsol was the b16 and rwd personally I think it would be a very easy decision cause it's the superior engine between the 2. But as they're set up it really comes down to what your purpose is with the cars

The ultimate combination in my opinion!

Appreciate that man! Lots more coming!

And I cant fault you for that. Atill probably the most fun car I've ever owned haha

Me too, one day!! Haha

Oh you definitely can’t. But welcome to the life of owning a 90s car with a removable top haha. Do the same with the Miata and you might be able to get it off but good luck getting it to strap back in

Agreed, I wish they had made them RWD but then they'd all be drift missiles like the 240 and the miata making them tough to come by I suppose

@@scooch988 Would that really be such a bad thing though?

@@TheFracturedfuture yes and no. Yes because slides are the best form of fun. No because they'd be priced like 240s and too expensive to be worth buying

@@scooch988 Good point.

I have to say I think that's the right choice!

I definitely can't argue with that. If you can swing both I highly recommend it. Having the best of both worlds is always good

So we actually didn't get the trans top in the states. You have to remove it manually. Now although it's one of the coolest things I've ever seen, I'm glad we didn't get it cause I've heard if it breaks it's very expensive to fix haha

@@scooch988 quite the opposite infact, honda uk wont touch it but there are specialists that repair them. I got mine fixed for £120 and has been working for 5 years since. it does add alot of weight though.

@@lunarshteve oh that's far less expensive than the forums made is sound haha. And yea I'm also very grateful for the weight savings. The car is perfectly balanced how it is without the weight haha

The made the key components like the gears from the trans top from plastic, they did that so the gears would break before the electric engine's would sieze up. The gears itself are cheap to replace and buy👌

@@DeUnoReverseKaart yeah the guy that repaired mine showed me the little packet of plastic cogs from honda, they were cheap it was the labour that took the most of my £120. still alot cheaper than repairing a modern electric roof thats for sure.

I've only driven the 1.6 so I can't really cast my vote, but I have heard a lot of people say the 1.8 is the best

Can't say I disagree!!

@@scooch988 thank you

Thanks!!

@@scooch988 I have a transtop del sol with factory ABS, Factory 4 wheel brakes, Factory B16A2. And Air condition. I don't know if all that options are available on USA

@@fabiomartinho8059 yeppers! All those options are on mine minus the trans top. All those were available in the US

Haha thanks! Any time josh let's me slide it I use that😂

We literally did a walk around on both of them my guy 😂

Better late than never

You sure you're looking at my page? I got like 33 likes and 13 followers 😂😂

@@scooch988 yeah dude adam lz talked about a guy on yt named scooch so ig it is you

@@donutdoode6984 do you have the link to which video he said that in?

@@scooch988 its on tiktok so sadly not

@@donutdoode6984 yeah I checked out his TikTok and watched his more recent KZfaq videos. I didn't see where he mentioned me on anything haha

Haha can't argue with that

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In my personal experience they are about the same haha. All these 90s Japanese cars rust over the rear quarter and the rockers. I have been very fortunate with mine because the original owner undercoated it so the only rust is the rockers and rear quarter. The frame is in excellent shape. Josh on the other hand, his is pretty rusty because it just wasn't maintained properly

@@scooch988 That's true. I come from the rust belt so when I found a fairly clean Miata I jumped on it. Unfortunately, all del sols I looked at were too rusty.

@@emilyaschbacher6921 yeah it stinks sometimes there's just no avoiding the rust no matter how much you take care of it. But it's awesome you found a clean Miata!

I'm 6'1 and I fit with plenty of room to spare!

I'm 6'3 and have plenty of room

Agreed, I still love her

Yesssss!!! Love to see it, go get one today before they’re all 15 grand!!

I love mine, and honestly, toss some snows on it and it does surprisingly well

@@scooch988 yeh you right. I am actually looking for my first car right now and these del sols are really cheap. My mom doesn't want me to get a rwd car because "OH YOU WILL GET YOURSELF KILLED!!" But the Real reason I want a car with 2 seats is it's not only light and fun I don't have to be the driver of the group. My friends just by themselves are pretty chill but then when you pair them up with each other it feels like I am a father sometimes. I can't imagine what that's like in a car while I am driving.

@@nosloppyplease i feel ya man, its nice to not always have to be the driver. That was me for a good portion of my life. Also I'm sorry but I find it so funny your mom thinks rwd is the part that makes it deadly, not the fact you're in one of the smallest cars ever made in a time when massive SUVs consume the roadway haha. But I have similar mom, she was more worried about speed than anything, and didn't want me having a car that was too small was when was younger. She still doesn't like that I have the delsol cause its so tiny but just show you can be responsible and it will at least put her mind a little more at ease

So the delsol did come with that option! They had 3 engines 1. Single overhead cam non VTEC 2. Single overhead cam VTEC 3. Dual overhead cam VTEC, which is the one I have, puts out 160 hp

I support this all the way!!

Hahaha good point

Agreed, Honda has some on the way, the Miata has some in storage, if only we could get josh to actually install them

Tell Josh to get off his @ss and get it done

@@frankietheyankee7042 I've tried but he says he has "adult" things to take care of

Haha they study all things about the earth. The history, structure, landscape, rocks and minerals

You're correct, miata makes 116. Cant trust Josh haha. However the DelSol makes 160. That was their claim to fame with the B16 was it was 100 hp per liter. You're thinking of the D16Z6, which made 125. The B series came in a B16A and a B16B. Both making 160hp. The A had a redline of 8200 and the B had a redline of 8000

That’s to the crank lol not wheel

@@FuknJulian correct haha, but most of thr time the only people who care about whp are the ones who have put the time in to build it. People just looking for a fun weekend car want the window sticker specs, or at least thats what I've noticed over the years haha

Yea the engines Honda was putting out back then were far superior, but there’s a reason everyone tracks Miata’s, that drivetrain is tough to beat. If Honda wasn’t so addicted to FWD they could have made a heck of a car if the delsol was rear wheel drive, personally I think it would have gotten more of the respect it deserved if it was

I need to be more like you, I want both too😂

Have had 2 sols and a 95 coupe... sol>miata

Pretty sad right? 😂

Love it man! Wish you were closer so we could get the sols together

Haha I thought that at first. After making this vid I think about it when I drive my Honda a lot though. The Honda is far better for me. All I would change her I wish it was RWD

www.andysautosport.com/learning_center/industry_news/honda_del_sol_history/

Check your facts sweetie. It started as a Civic DelSol, which mine is, even says so on the title, until closer to it's death, the Civic name was dropped and it became just the Delsol

That’s the only sad part

I know you are but what am I?

You made the right choice 😉

@@scooch988 its actually my first car and I'm 16 but idk what to do to it any suggestions?

@@joseonaltr9445 for one of these I would definitely recommend some new suspension. Try the Tru Hart's coilovers. Not expensive and a GREAT coilover. I also have an install video on how to do those. Then I'd recommend some wheels and tires. Really bring the handling aspect around on the car. Maybe a cold air intake if you have a vtec engine. Great sound without it being ricy. I have an exhaust video I'll be putting up soon. Cause exhausts are great and they're fun, but I wanted something more tame on this car. But if you want something louder there's an array of options which is great. Hope this helps!

@@scooch988 thanks man I just cant wait till I get my car back 😁