I have been following your channel from the beginning and have mirrored some parts of my machine to your original talon r. I took great interest in your horsepower upgrade. I run the Jr turbo kit and we are in Colorado now operating at 13000 ft daily. Thank you for the update I could have followed your footsteps very easily for more horsepower, I'll keep enjoying what I have. Again thanks for you channel and honesty.

Sorry about your bad luck with this build. I liked watching your channel prior to the turbo build. I've already outlined what needs to be done in my previous comments. Ultimately you're doing R&D on your Talon. I've yet known of anyone that has bumped the power and torque to what you are claiming "reliably". Taking the car to a guy that can't figure why it isn't making enough boost and adjusting the waste gate to increase boost and not having the ability to adjust fuel and timing maps is a disaster waiting to happen (which it did) until you find the right people that knows how to build a high hp engine familiar with the Honda power plant and the ability to tune in house, this will keep happening. PPEI is not the one to blame, although they asked you to datalog for them and you expected that data logging session to be 100% full proof. It doesn't work like that in the real world. PPEI was just doing R&D with your support and you were expecting the same from them. What would you expect to happen to the trans when you double the hp? You want to bump big power with a turbo you will need to get down to 8 or 8.5:1 compression. You're complaining not being able to get 10.5:1 pistons, high compression on a forced induction application causes detonation aka grenading your engine, it isn't going to help your case. It'll just keep blowing up, maybe try running race fuel or E85. But ultimately you need ro work with a competent engine builder not some mechanics that know how to throw parts together and assemble an engine. There's a lot more knowledge required than just slapping parts together.

Anytime you build a motor for more power you must perform live tuning. Sending data logs to tune your custom built motor with trial and error tunes is a recipe for disaster. No matter who builds your engine or writes your tunes, too many things can go wrong aside from AFR, detonation and overboost will grenade your motor. Live tuning allows the tuner to see live data and lift off the throttle immediately if something isn't right. This nightmare won't stop building a motor like this. Jackson Racing has done their R&D for reliability while driving the car in different conditions. There's a reason why they don't have a kit that puts out 100% more power than OEM. When you get that deep into building a motor, porting, cams, valve springs, rods and a cylinder girdle should be used. The girdle will minimize the cylinders from blowing up. Check out the high HP turbo Hondas from the 90's that run big boost and power. Same power plant design. I just don't think your engine builder is an experience race engine builder, slapping parts on is not building an engine.

That sucks! One for your bank account and two because I wanted to do the same build. I guess I’ll be keeping my talon stock. Good luck!!

Thank you for trying to get to those numbers and prove out you machine, I did not see this coming either, sorry it worked out that way.

Dang what a nightmare hope it’s gets fixed man sorry for your luck I thought I was the only one with that kind of luck

Sorry to hear

Sorry to hear you’re going through all this. I loved my talon but wanted more power, the JR kit wasn’t enough power for me so I sold my talon and bought a pro xp and put a stage 3 tune on it. I love Honda but it seems like they aren’t interested in appeasing the customers that want more power. Maybe switch to can-am, a lot more power , much much better suspension. I’ve got 1300 miles on my pro xp and still haven’t changed my belt

I'm currently being tuned by Erik. Right now I'm making right around the 180whp mark that you are. On E85, and on a relatively conservative tune. Looking for 200 over the winter. So far, my experience with PPEI, and Erik specifically has been fantastic. He goes far above and beyond anything I would expect. Been building boosted cars my entire life, and have never had a tuner put in as much work as him. I've datalogged and received new flashes from Erik on a Friday night at 11pm before some races. Or all day Saturday and Sundays. Hands down, most responsive, and detailed tuner I've ever had, on any vehicle I've ever owned over the past 15 years. I cant speak to DRP, as I have not used their products, or services. I'm also at a low altitude, so I can't speak to that either. It's unfortunate what's happened to your Talon so far. It seems like a combination of issues that compounded into a major issue. Hopefully you can get everything resolved.

I've never been a fan of aftermarket anything. Enjoy it the way it was engineered. If Honda every gets around to doing a "Factory Turbo" then I'm in.

22lbs of boost is crazy high, not surprised it blew.

Wow. Thanks for sharing..

Sounds like a lawsuit!!!

Bro , dang that sucks. Leaving my Talon stock motor wise. Doing the turbo kit on my friends. Hopefully it is reliable.

So sorry to hear man. I would sick a lawyer on them if contacting the bbb.

I wonder how good the motor would be with all the upgrades minus the turbo. 10.5-1 compression is a little high for a turbo. I would say 9-1 would be about a perfect compression ratio for a turbo. 11-1 compression ratio normally aspirated would probably be pretty sweet as well. Put a little bigger cam and some head work, jet the carb and bigger fuel injectors and call it a day. You should prob see about 160-180 HP without the turbo and would be more reliable.

It’s been awhile since you’ve posted anything, any new updates on the build? Appreciate all your content on the Honda, there’s not much out there still!

Hey Russel, i met you on the rubicon this last week. We were the crew camping by the lake about 1/2 way in the trail. We talked about how you made the talon street legal. Is there a way to message you to talk more about it?

Dam man, I just installed this kit myself a few weeks ago. Been doing some data testing myself. Hope I have better luck. In my defense I know I'm a test subject lol

Wow Russell can't believe it. I am aubscribed to your channel and not only value but enjoy your videos. Hope your doing able to resolve this companies peddling products should b held accountable I wish u the best

After watching lots of different videos you seem to be the foremost expert with boosted talons. What do you recommend JR or KW. Both have their pros and cons. I’m looking for what’s least likely to explode my machine.

Had an issue just like on a Eclipse build with Stage 6 motorsports in Jacksonville Fl. Never actually drove the car myself but got blamed for the motor blown. Luckly I had video of them driving it from lift to trailer. Which included some horse play in the parking lot by them. Luckly video proved they tore it up then put it on trailer, 5 mins after my payment went through on their system.

CT racing is a high quality company that offers wonderful quality parts and performance. They are fierce Compositors that race in gncc. Is there based out of California.

No shit.... their tuning ruins some duramax motors too... didn't know it happened in the sxs industry too

You know so many people in the talon community. Have you heard anything about the Kraftwerks if it has any elevation tunning problems?

Hopefully soon someone nice can tune my turbo talon I need a good tune

There was so much bullshit in what they were telling you about dynojet and elevation. There already and always has been multipliers for elevation.

😮😮

They agreed to pay for the motor, that's a contract/settlement agreement and they're not allowed to add more conditions afterwords.

This sucks. We all desperately want a 160+ hp Talon. But... it sure makes that canam that comes STOCK without all this headache more appealing. Especially based off the $ to get the talon just to 120hp with a jackson turbo let alone 160 -180hp.

Any update on your situation?

Stick with Alba Racing or Hess when it comes to the Honda Talon.

Men i just got a turbo this weekend i just email erik today about a tune 🥺🥺🥺🥺 now i feeling regrets about a turbo

Ouch... Sorry man. Can you reinstall the Jackson flash?

So if I want to up the HP, "reliably" in my Talon, the best way is Jackson Turbo kit and call it a day.

Sorry for your bad luck, but you didn’t mention anything about what the AFR’s were at. If you just get in, turn the key, and mash on the gas, you deserve what you got. AFR’s are critical to monitor. I have been working with Erik on my build and tune for over a year now. He has been very knowledgeable and has been available nearly 24/7. I have been driving from sea level up to 7000 ft. He did send me a different tune for the high altitude which made it better. If your building a turbo’d car, why didn’t you put in 9:1 or 9.5:1 pistons when you changed them originally? You can run more boost safer that way. I am currently installing the 185 hp kit from PPEI with the Trinity exhaust. I watch the AFR’s more than any other gauge. I also wonder why you are the only one I have ever heard that has had to tighten up the JR head pipes at every 1000 miles? I have never had to touch them after the install. I have a feeling that if you go with any aftermarket tune/turbo kit and don’t pay attention to what the engine is doing, you will continue to have the same problems. Good Luck!

You still making videos? You still have the talon?

I wish I could say I were surprised but this has pretty much my experience with PPEI everytime I've dealt with them for diesel tuning. Screwed up tunes, someone else's fault, releasing tunes that they know aren't complete, and no one has anything good to say about Kory in the diesel world.

Doesnt matter if the engine is made out of the best of the best if you run it lean itll break.

I watched only a little bit of the engine build and it was a hack job.

These Facebook groups are gonna be wild once this gets out there! What are your plans going forward?

That is not good. Hate to say it but I smell a lawsuit. $15k is not a joke. I bought my 2019 Talon new for $17K

I’m willing to bet your machine is loosing fuel pressure. Sending you lean and your engine to the moon.

I have personally worked with Chad and ppei for over two years anything that’s not released yes is understood beta testing. Sorry this happen to you but i hVe heard both sides of the story and they have a lot of differences. Erik has been nothing but amazing with me and my tunes and personally have the pistons that was in your machine in mine right. Your exact pistons you pulled out with the scuffing on them and i am running them no issues. Chad has been nothing. It helpful for me and helpful for parts. Kory i don’t know him personally or haven’t dealt with him much but can’t speak on that. I’m sorry this happen to you but also it’s very crucial to always look at the afrs for this reason. Shoot i do on my na tunes. Hope you get to riding soon and y’all get all this behind y’all.

Hope you sue their ass off

You will most definitely win the lawsuit against them especially since they made a written contractual agreement via text saying they will cover the repair and shipping cost. Not you can also get back you me traveling expenses and recover court cost. By them wanting you to sign non-disclosure agreement it’s now going to cost them twice as much money since you didn’t agree with that. Please update us after everything is completed.