Jesy Nelson & Jojo Siwa: When A Debut Goes Wrong

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Jesy Nelson & Jojo Siwa: When A Debut Goes Wrong

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Ай бұрын

the debut downer (coined by me) - A debut downer is the perfect storm of everything going wrong during your debut song or album.
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@KyeranNisbet Ай бұрын

Jojo trying to convince everybody she's a "bad girl" now will never not be hilarious 😂

@justjoannak Ай бұрын

This

@a.d.8827 Ай бұрын

she did some bad things tho

@DrT0705 Ай бұрын

She should have never effed around 😂

@shizzlemywizzle1 Ай бұрын

this joke is not pretty old and overdone at this point tbh even cringier than jojo’s behavior

@beingthisyoungisart13 Ай бұрын

@@shizzlemywizzle1frrrrr

@bhaktiagarwal5859 Ай бұрын

I didn't know that Jesy released a second song lmao

@WhitneyReacts Ай бұрын

I didn’t even know she broke away from Little Mix… but I usually live under a rock when it comes to current pop culture

@Emerald_Forge Ай бұрын

Same i thought she unofficially retired 😭, I thought she'd transition to a influencer

@chiara8822 Ай бұрын

@@Emerald_Forge I mean she keeps "teasing" songs on IG but never released any of them...

@eltonmiller8218 Ай бұрын

It’s actually really good lmao

@Aeunax123 Ай бұрын

Sis, I came here to say this exact thing lol

@Ennaitak Ай бұрын

Boyz could have been passable if it wasn't for Jesys controversy. "Bad thing" deserved a chance. Karma was going to be cringy either way just due to Jojos nature.

@adrianmikel Ай бұрын

I seen what Boyz was going for as it kinda gave a 2000s vibe and song but something in the song is missing. Now the black fishing she should’ve listen to her Leigh Anne about the black fishing and never allowed nicki to attack Leigh Anne. But with information I found out about her departure from Little mix, she was moving funny anyway.

@shanel4294 Ай бұрын

@@adrianmikelall of this👏🏽👏🏽

@Das644 Ай бұрын

@@adrianmikelboyz is a nice clubby song. It is a bop sonically. I personally feel like the whole black phishing controversy was just a bad played out case unfortunately having Leigh and jes fall prey to other’s actions. It ultimately turned from the central issue being “black phishing” to a Jes(bad) vs Leigh(good), Jesy never said anything about Leigh, she just chuckled when Nicki made remarks. And I personally feel like there was never gonna be a win in the situation for either. Jesy might have grown around black culture, but I agree she along the lines became insensitive/blind to what she was doing. Leigh even though pushed to front the rage, also has her own controversies surrounding race. Race is relatively, black in America is not the same in the uk, and in SA for example, so multiple pov all chimming in was bound to be a mess

@AbracadabraBipipityBopotyBOO Ай бұрын

@Das644 I agree. I think the UK fans already had the well poisoned against Jesy from people like Mnek and other executives and the drop around Boyz was the perfect storm to ostracize her for leaving the group sort of like how they attempted to dump on Zayn when he left 1D. If we objectively look at Boyz and compare it to the Bad Boyz version frame for frame, it was clear what Jesy and her creative team were doing with the video. I personally look at Leigh-Anne sideways as well for trying to make that video into something it wasn’t with her note to fans after the video dropped and penning an open letter to Jesu as if she made all Black men in the video into “degenerates” when it was more white and mixed race men in the video than not. What’s more it’s hard to say Jesy is blackfishing for me as a Black woman when she has never claimed to be Black as others who black fish has or to be racially ambiguous. She’s also claimed herself as a white woman and to me Leigh-Anne used this incident much like the X Factor incident with her rival Black competitor as a “woe as me moment” to win sympathy for her own career.

@armywithluv55 Ай бұрын

I feel like also jest shouldn't make her debut single a FEATURING omg

@WhoCaresAlisha Ай бұрын

Wannbe "lightskin" era Jesy was so crazy. Her team saw the spray tan and the lace fronts and were like "Yeah, this will totally work." JoJo's rebranding was just bad production quality, styling, and marketing all around.

@yageshabazz3456 Ай бұрын

Essentially both were hindered by questionable style choices

@jessycaone4276 Ай бұрын

After Justin and Miley ppl were officially DONE with the lightskin eras ☠

@Ibibiogal Ай бұрын

I worked on the Jesy MV (it was a nightmare) heard of little mix but didn’t know what they looked like. I thought Jesy was mixed-race until the video and black-fishing stuff came out. I didn’t meet Diddy though they shot his scene like a month later in LA. Glad I didn’t meet Diddy.

@Whatdoradidntexplore006 Ай бұрын

@@jessycaone4276and even tho i love ariana grande put her on that list too😂

@olapyza Ай бұрын

Shes white?!

@gaby-leighjonathan2207 Ай бұрын

Now I can't get Jesse Nelson's " JINGLE BELL BALL ARE YOU READY ?" Out of my head 😭😭

@flopera6117 Ай бұрын

The "NO WE'RE NOT" person in the crowd as well😭

@bellaelleira Ай бұрын

@@flopera6117 that person lives rent free in my mind lol the way I still think of it and chuckle at random af times 😭

@agoogleaccount5859 Ай бұрын

She will always be iconic 😍😍😍😍 people still talk about her to this day due to the JINGLE BELL BAWL and she even did a tiktok on the ‘ARE YA READAYAYYY’ meme she made an impact she still spoke about nearly three year after unlike the other three little mix members! This shows ‘honest’ is DISHONEST and wrong once again! ☕️

@dakotatoney Ай бұрын

@@agoogleaccount5859not really, the only reason ppl still talk about it because it’s a meme now. If she was genuine with her comeback ppl would have received it better. Instead of acting like she came from somewhere she wasn’t.

@agoogleaccount5859 Ай бұрын

@@dakotatoney it’s BEEN a meme for 3 years and people still talk about her and bring up her meme 😍😍 and they bring up her meme BALEGDE 8 years ago they talk about that still today! 😍😍 and Jesy specifically came back now teasing snippet cuz she knew ppl was talking about her cuz of summer time ball. Memes have made ppl more relevant such as Nicki Minaj , Sabrina carpenter , Miley Cyrus and even Jojo Siwa so it will work for JESY 😍😍

@sav715 Ай бұрын

i mean i feel like we cant forget that jojo’s debut was basically just to get attention away from the abuse her and her mom were being accused of and it worked

@northrnstar Ай бұрын

highkey embarrassing how they tried to come up with the "lmao it was all intentional we were trolling" after karma took a nosedive out of the charts

@hotmamma2126 Ай бұрын

It did the opposite. Everybody who looked into her flop would become aware of the child abuse. If the videos don't mention it, several comments absolutely will. There's a good reason child abuse isn't as easy to spread around like fun gossip

@chinchilla3050 Ай бұрын

Sorry, what were they accused of? I never heard

@nessa007productions Ай бұрын

Perrie and Leigh-Anne each having over a million monthly listeners on Spotify for their solo work while Jesy only has 100k+ listeners, says a lot!

@hellohoneyfernishere7301 Ай бұрын

Yeah but jest blows all three out of the water KZfaq wise and that’s prob cause jesy hasn’t released any new music in over a year and boyz alone still blows Leighanne’s and perries whole careers out of the water streams wise

@FOHaab Ай бұрын

@hellohoneyfernishere7301 KZfaq views don't fucking matter 😂 If no one is streaming your songs, your career won't last. KZfaq views are about gaining interest. Crazy how she can pull so many youtube views but those views aren't transferring literally anywhere else... almost like nobody cares about her music!

@Philipp19967 Ай бұрын

@@hellohoneyfernishere7301 90% of those due to Nicki minaj being on it

@OfficialSunspot Ай бұрын

Flop off

@AlwaysLM2011 Ай бұрын

@@hellohoneyfernishere7301are you aware that boys has views because of Nicki and p. Diddy? Let’s not forget the drama added to it . Her second song didn’t even get a million views after a year? So there ya go

@a.d.8827 Ай бұрын

chappell roan is the gay pop jojo siwa was talking about

@AdzaanMaiiTso Ай бұрын

chappell roan is the gay pop we deserve. ♥️

@CinnamonGirl0716 Ай бұрын

Its satisfying to believe JoJo's flop era launched Chapelle's career too like Brit Smith(in my opinion at least).

@Youtubeaccount50512 Ай бұрын

@@CinnamonGirl0716how did she launched Chapelle’s career they are nothing alike

@sunfvalley Ай бұрын

chappell success have more connection with the game stardew valley @@CinnamonGirl0716

@LoveK1 Ай бұрын

@@KZfaqaccount50512people just be talking.

@babybluejustice Ай бұрын

it's still hilarious how that nicki drama went down with jesy and then RIGHT AFTER, everyone forgot about her completely 😭

@agoogleaccount5859 Ай бұрын

How is everyone forgot about her everyone STILL talks about her? For example ur commenting under a video about Jesy 🤣💀 Jesy still is spoken about on Twitter and Tiktok. And every December and June she’s spoken about due to the JINGLE BELL BAWL festival meme 😍😍 she’s spoken about way more than the other little mix members that’s for sure and ppl still make videos about her like this video ☕️☕️

@TheEmbessyNetwork Ай бұрын

Who?

@agoogleaccount5859 Ай бұрын

@@TheEmbessyNetwork this is literally what the video is about I think maybe this proves your really really slow lmao

@northrnstar Ай бұрын

@@agoogleaccount5859what's the point of people still talking about her when all the talk is about how she's embarrassing herself with the blackfishing and overall nasty behavior? all that bad publicity and people still won't tune in for her new music 💀

@TheEmbessyNetwork Ай бұрын

@@agoogleaccount5859 no baby girl, it's called a joke. You thought you were cooking there, but I'm a need you to turn off that stove please...

@deadlynightshade4108 Ай бұрын

Jesy's jingle bell ball performance is iconic for all the wrong reasons LOL

@mimia.4810 Ай бұрын

It’s so sad how Jesy ruined her image with this terrible debut. Her other song is much better and should have been the image she led with. Moreover, the way she left the group was awful and messy. You don’t bash the group you came from because that’s where most of your fans will come from. For example, when Camila cabello left fifth Harmony, she was smart enough to always say nice things about the band and not piss off her audience. That’s why her debut was successful.

@nemhardjenkins2191 Ай бұрын

Camila the same person that had to attends a racially healing therapy or camp ish 😂😂😂 ... what a good sport

@annoyingnope827 Ай бұрын

I feel like out of all 4 of them. Jesy had the biggest potential to be a star. She had a collab with Nicki and everyone was talking abt her jingle bell ball performance (even if it was for a bad reason). If jesy had release a follow up single right after the performance, she would’ve had a hit, and became a star

@AlwaysLM2011 Ай бұрын

@@annoyingnope827 jesy had the least potential solo

@annoyingnope827 Ай бұрын

@@AlwaysLM2011 that’s just a lie. So far jesy has had the most publicity out of all the girls

@Blast2224 Ай бұрын

Yeah but now nobody cares about Camilla Caboohy because they did that awful Cinderella and Qwuismoys. Gen Z is done with her 😂

@lucaria6164 Ай бұрын

Didn’t know Jesy had a 2nd song, checked and it’s been a year and has not break 1mil views. I-💀

@veronicaaccouche1478 Ай бұрын

Jesy Nelson's 2nd song 'Bad Thing' about her parent's abusive relationship made with a UK charity that looks after and advises abused people, Refuge UK kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sK-cl9FjrNu4oZ8.html

@Absy722 Ай бұрын

Not the WWE Halloween costume 😂😂

@samaiyanickson269 Ай бұрын

And the Kiss costume 😂😂

@nicolevo9261 Ай бұрын

Yeah and it looks like something from Party City

@mrbigbosskojak Ай бұрын

I honestly think Jesy took the whole 'I'm hot, you're not' persona too seriously. We always saw her pouting and posing. I think she would be more likeable if she were to show her personality more.

@LP-ct9nk Ай бұрын

That is her personality tho. After all those years it stops becoming an act and now a part of you

@azulyuhh87 5 күн бұрын

Yeah she’s actually really nice, to her fans at least

@coll4455 Ай бұрын

Debut Downer is so accurate lol

@Ric_Irv Ай бұрын

That solo Jessie era gave us so many good memes😭😭😭😭

@kingderald Ай бұрын

Jessy thought that Nicki co sign was going to help

@amigos2841 Ай бұрын

now with the aftermath of her beef with Megan Thee Stallion and Diddy being in the video has made it age terribly too lol

@toxiczombiewolf5692 Ай бұрын

Not gonna look good working with a horrible person like nicki she lost touch and care for sa victims

@AG-fg1uk Ай бұрын

@@toxiczombiewolf5692You are in every comment section dragging Nicki with insults. It's cringe

@AG-fg1uk Ай бұрын

Nicki actually brought hype to the single because it was her 1st feature after a long hiatus, everyone was liking the song. Trouble started when her ex band mate brought up the blackfishing.

@amigos2841 Ай бұрын

@@AG-fg1uk actually no, I'm come from UK and the press and people were already talking about it the black fishing before the band mates even said a word

@Elina.Clavelli Ай бұрын

Ok, but “Debut Downer” is honestly a genius term in many ways, including its play on words with “Debbie Downer” (which def also applies in these cases 😅)

@Kalex92 Ай бұрын

Let’s not forget jesy regarding the black fishing and the cultural appropriation.

@ionasmith1998 Ай бұрын

⁠@AECONIChow did Perrie appropriate?

@Dance18sC 28 күн бұрын

Shut up 🙄

@smr6141 Ай бұрын

So, who else completely forgot about Jesy? ... 🤭

@adrianmikel Ай бұрын

I did too like I don’t follow her, blocked on Spotify and I haven’t listen to little mix music in while to think of her.

@smr6141 Ай бұрын

@@adrianmikel the crazy part is I haven’t even forgotten about the other girls. I still have some of their songs in my playlists but I never think about Jesy when they play 💀

@adrianmikel Ай бұрын

@@smr6141 exactly

@yageshabazz3456 Ай бұрын

🙋🏾‍♀️ she’s too generic to be memorable imo

@fizzypop6552 Ай бұрын

not me,I follow her

@ponderer467 Ай бұрын

Perrie and Leigh have had a successful debut career!!

@elijahpillay5344 Ай бұрын

the fact that jesys second single was so good

Ай бұрын

I wish Jesy’s second song “Bad Thing” was her debut single. It is so good and truly showcase her voice and talent.

@highro13 Ай бұрын

“A bad KISS impression” 😂😂😂😂

@Shakeitup2013 Ай бұрын

Jesy Nelson was trying to hard to be something she wasn’t

@Janice.g1357 Ай бұрын

Tbh after watching her interviews and stuff she really does give the impression that this kind of music and style is the music she loves and always wanted to make. I think it felt authentic

@LuisGustavoSO Ай бұрын

@@Janice.g1357 she sang Bust Your Windows in her X Factor audition. That's definitely the kind of music she likes What troubled her debut was for sure the controversy surrounding her, Leigh-Anne and Nicki. The song is not great, but not awful either

@aaron18283 Ай бұрын

So was Ariana Grande during her africana granada era. I think Jesy took too long to leave her blackfishing era behind. I feel like she doubled down on it as a way to use “cancel culture” as a promotional tactic but it blew up on her face because she is no Kim Kardashian or Ariana Grande, people saw her as cringe and she ironically made the backlash against blackphishing more mainstream.

@Whatdoradidntexplore006 Ай бұрын

👏

@AbracadabraBipipityBopotyBOO Ай бұрын

@aaron18283 And that is why I know people were geared up to hate Jesy regardless of whatever song or image she bought to her solo career. Ariana Grande cosplayed as a Latinx and Black woman for YEARS and no one batted an eye at her black fishing and it didn’t stop her from winning awards and getting streamed. So, what was the reason they came for Jesy? She also has never said she was Black or mixed race either and only made an homage to the Bad Boys song that was frame for frame a reference to the original video.

@gonda3435 Ай бұрын

lufabettabettaswee

@Alejaccx Ай бұрын

lmaaooooo

@preposteroussvideos Ай бұрын

LMAOOOOOOOOO

@armywithluv55 Ай бұрын

Bein nais a lil borin wenyaBetuendishits 👅👅👅

@solaris5922 Ай бұрын

Shut up 😂😂😂😂😂

@blueroses4373 Ай бұрын

Get out 😂😂

@6ixsavag3 Ай бұрын

She really does look like she’s wearing a wwe Halloween costume. 😂😂 great review!

@GRA5S Ай бұрын

It didn't help that Jesy's former girl group where all about woman empowerment and sisterhood then when she went solo she legit talked shit about her former group like they weren't her 3 bestfriends for the past decade. It left a bad taste in her fans' mouths. It drove away even her long time fans because her attitude seemed so hypocritical.

@brandoncole5533 Ай бұрын

Bad things imo is a good song with a nice video but her messy debut just ruined it all. One thing i did hate tho was people telling her that she couldnt release a spng about domestic violence or that it felt cheap because people couldnt critique it? 1st off you can critique a song no matter what regardless of its subject matter Secondly, its disingenuous to criticize or shit talk a song because you dont like the person. Criticize the character not the work.

@marymiranda2687 Ай бұрын

I am a Little Mix OG fan and I didn't even know that Jesy put out a second single until I saw this video HAHAHA That's how you know that the LM fandom has completely disowned her.

@AlwaysLM2011 Ай бұрын

Jesy was just so dramatic and it was so unnecessary. She was so messy and ruined her own career. I’m just gonna say it, so far Leigh Anne has had the best music and start of her career out of the girls. Perrie is ok I just think her music has been too generic and unauthentic. I didn’t think jesy would make it far even without the drama. Jade will debut in July and I have high hopes for her.

@akouna Ай бұрын

i mean afaik it looks like all of them are doing good. still waiting for jade's debut though

@AlwaysLM2011 Ай бұрын

@@akouna jesy isn’t doing well let’s be real.

@MotoGPForever4527 Ай бұрын

Leigh's music has been crap so far, and Perrie's already outstreaming her

@AlwaysLM2011 Ай бұрын

@@MotoGPForever4527 learn your math because overall Leigh has more streams ? Some of her ep songs has more streams than her second single tears? Tears hasn’t even reached a million streams yet and it’s her second single ? Sorry but perrie isn’t living up to the hype but Leigh Anne is exceeding expectations. By the way Leigh Anne and perrie both have 1.6 monthly listeners despite Leigh Anne not doing promo or dropping a single. Perries should be way more since in your eyes she’s doing much better right?😂

@AlwaysLM2011 Ай бұрын

@AECONIC exactly…..she still didn’t get promo for it and still has amazing streams and the same monthly listeners as perrie who has been the one having her solo moment dropping two singles and doing promo. Take that how you will and leave at that.

@shanel4294 Ай бұрын

Boys was a tribute to diddy? Didn’t know that

@kiiara222 Ай бұрын

It samples his track bad boy for life

@shanel4294 Ай бұрын

@@kiiara222 fair enough but loads of artists sample without actually paying respect to the original. Interestingggggggggg for sure

@tiffl4592 Ай бұрын

@@shanel4294 tribute may not be the proper word but it definitely pays homage, he's literally in the music video

@brandoncole5533 Ай бұрын

How???

@shanel4294 Ай бұрын

@@tiffl4592 yeahh whatever it is is very cool interesting and sus

@preposteroussvideos Ай бұрын

JINGLE BELL BOW

@aa-pj4vz Ай бұрын

ARE YA READYYYYY

@Raggiefoul582 Ай бұрын

NO WERE NOT❗️

@ambergris5705 22 күн бұрын

Another thing in common, is that both releases were so selfish and egocentric. Jesy's departure from Little Mix got her a lot of sympathy, along with the understanding that she needed time away from the limelight. So when she came back (too quickly) with a worse version of what she was already doing at LM, seemingly contradicting her own statements, it did not feel like a genuine new start like we were wishing for her, but instead like an unjustified divorce that left everyone worse off. It's as if she was "finally I am free to do what I want, now where's the fake tan !?" Jojo's debut is also treating her fanbase as irrelevant or even a burden. You like me? Too bad, now I am BAAAAD. I have no doubt Jojo got stuck playing a (cringe and immature) role which was not comfortable, and which she needed to shed, but she chose instead to go for something even more cringe and immature. Why ? Clearly because she wanted to be the center of attention, instead of being open and transparent and honest in her new era. Jojo wants to break away from her persona, but where it would be beautiful and sweet to be herself with her fans, instead she treats it like a game. Now, selfishness and egocentrism in music is very common, but those two situations were so blatant that I am not surprised it turned out bad for them.

@cherryprincess5396 Ай бұрын

Jesy threw her entire career to the trash just because she didnt want to stop cosplaying black women…

@J1NXXXX Ай бұрын

i’ve been a little mix fan since i was about 13- im 20 now. jesy, for the longest time, was my favorite member due to relating to her struggle of being insecure in her weight. being there to watch jesy & nicki tear leigh down and call her jealous of jesy actually broke my heart. leigh has ALWAYS been the biggest sweetheart, and she didn’t deserve that in the slightest. i disliked jesy for a while after that, and still mostly do. boyz was a terrible song, but bad things definitely deserved a chance. stream leigh-anne’s new ep “no hard feelings” and perrie’s latest single, “tears”! :)

@Krissy_K888 Ай бұрын

I feel bad about Jesy's situation, because I think she was running from her issues by leaving Little Mix and then she didn't take time to work through them before exploring herself as an artist. I suppose that's why her debut had to be just a copy and paste job of an existing song and video. I hope she manages to turn things around both personally and professionally.

@AbracadabraBipipityBopotyBOO Ай бұрын

Amen. As an OG Mixer, it’s clear the girl has been spiraling for a long time with body dysmorphia, substance abuse issues, and self-esteem problems. The way the tabloids berated her, her label mishandled her issues, and even the fans turned on her continuously from her X Factor days until now, makes me sad for her because she of all the girls doesn’t seem as if she ever really got to enjoy being in Little Mix. When she said she didn’t want to be in the group to avoid comparisons, it made sense. I still can’t believe her label heard her say she wanted to delete herself and still called her to come into work the next week.

@karishajohnson6537 Ай бұрын

Love how they use Blackness both the color and race to “mature” and rebrand their image.

@Whatdoradidntexplore006 Ай бұрын

😂 exactly like why

@LuisGustavoSO Ай бұрын

Jesy didn't rebrand though. She had been tanning and filling her lips for years before leaving the group. The hate only came later, interestingly

@mariambah4583 Ай бұрын

@@LuisGustavoSOI think it’s because she openly said that no one blamed her on it While she was deliberately lying

@amoreweasley5302 Ай бұрын

@LuisGustavoSO She was called out by some fans before her departure. The general public didn’t talk about it because they didn’t know about her yet

@LuisGustavoSO Ай бұрын

@@amoreweasley5302 "some fans" like... 3 of them? She was doing it since 2016 and people only commented, and very rarely, about it when the Sweet Melody video dropped. They only sent *hate* and labeled her racist after she left the group though

@SkylarTheWriter Ай бұрын

Well done! This was a really informative and dope analysis of both ladies' respective debuts.

@abubarrie88 Ай бұрын

I liked Jesys debut song not gonna lie.

@Alejaccx Ай бұрын

You mean, Jesy? .... 😋

@abubarrie88 Ай бұрын

@@Alejaccx yes thank you for catching that for me lol

@matthewray2570 Ай бұрын

Its catchy ngl

@SuperMarkizas Ай бұрын

Feels like Jesy messed up bigger because she trashed her ex-band. JoJo is somewhere in the corner doing her thing.

@marianarath4024 Ай бұрын

Ironically enough she even said positive things about Abby Lee that would be her equivalent of who she owns her fame, and in that case she actually shouldn’t keep saying good things about that abuser

@roboelectrooverlord6346 Ай бұрын

Jojo not serious she just trying to distract from the accusations of child abuse against he

@tobennaokoli4450 Ай бұрын

Jesy’s rebrand was a cry for attention. Jojo’s rebrand was a cover up. Common theme: NEITHER was genuine.

@chiara8822 Ай бұрын

you can tell jesy is still very insecure and resentful towards the other girls. she's always been jealous of them, especially of leigh. i know this doesn't justify anything she's done, but i can't help but feel bad for her. i know what it feels like to be relentlessly bullied; it scars you for life.

@mariambah4583 Ай бұрын

The difference is that Drake is mixed and Jesy is 100% White

@user-cw4gi2tq7w Ай бұрын

@DanielSiddique-hq3og if you are pretending to be a race, you're not that's a crime

@AbracadabraBipipityBopotyBOO Ай бұрын

@chiara8822 You’re rewriting history. From the X Factor days until almost the second to last album, Jesy was the girl who would fight for all of the girls if anyone said anything to or about them. She got in trouble for defending Leigh-Anne against the other Black contestant on C Factor and told radio DJs off for bringing Zayn up when he and Petrie broke up. You are right though that it’s clear she was scarred and never seemed to enjoy her time as a celebrity because of how nasty the UK press has been to her and other celebrities.

@ShiShi429 Ай бұрын

Are we forgetting "Can't Be Tamed"? Miley had to re-debut basically.

@ahmednasri6101 Ай бұрын

Jesy literally ruined her own career honestly she was amazing in LM and when she left LM lost everything 😢

@zanehung7983 Ай бұрын

Little Mix had me thinking there was true united friendship inside this group. Then it made me realise it was still business.

@1louisprotector28 Ай бұрын

The other girls are still close and support each other though, Jesy just ruined it for herself because she wanted to be someone she's not. That's her own fault.

@bleudiamondbleu Ай бұрын

There WAS tho. The other 3 are still close. Leighanne just posted on her Instagram story today about Perrie. JESY was the problem.

@COBO2 Ай бұрын

Diddy’s latest antics has made Jessy’s debut even worse.

@shaneilellis9832 Ай бұрын

You mean,when PR goes wrong.

@honestboy Ай бұрын

debuts and PR goes hand in hand

@shaneilellis9832 Ай бұрын

@@honestboy aha

@criminalmindsgirl2936 Ай бұрын

JoJo was just for her time. That was it. Beyond what she's done in the past decade. Nobody cares. She's like the Kardashians/Jenners. Once your time in the spotlight starts to fade. You gotta do everything you can to stay relevant. It's sad honestly. Especially for the "celebrities" who have no talent/jobs These social media influencers/reality stars/gamers

@obsessed2754 Ай бұрын

Honestly, the spotlight never left the Kardashian/Jenners. Even if they are basically not doing anything, the news really do stick to them. I get tired hearing from Kardashians too but just accepted that even after a decade and in the future, they still will be relevant. And why is that? The kids are continuing their legacy. Everyone is talking about the kids as well (thankfully in a good way, right now). And even w/o the kids, people are still talking about them (just kendall eating out, kylie dating, kim's shenanigans, what they wear, blah blah). I can't really compare Jojo to them because lmao I dont know what to say about jojo haha still trying to grasp it 😂

@Mf7d89 Ай бұрын

Normani needs to be a part of this video

@Keng04T Ай бұрын

Wasn’t Jesy called out for Black Fishing?

@criminalmindsgirl2936 Ай бұрын

This needs to be a whole list of musicians

@Shakeitup2013 Ай бұрын

I’m gonna be honest you really make good videos

@akouna Ай бұрын

the difference between them is that jesy was more hated than jojo is jesy is not blackfishing recently, even though she never said anything, it looks like she stopped i really just wish jesy improved, in her little mix era she was really different...

@akouna Ай бұрын

@AECONIC she was a bit more open minded and kind, and it just doesn't look like herself now

@1louisprotector28 Ай бұрын

Jesy was trying so hard to seem like a poc/black girl, she know damn well that she was never like that growing up and even early Little Mix days. Putting on that persona just to start her music career was so disgusting. I used to be fan of her when she was in Little Mix, she was my favorite one and I defended her all the time, but after what she did to Leigh-Anne Pinnock and her blocking fans for trying to educate her made me lose all respect for her. Jojo Siwa is just plain cringy and so extra af for no reason. Enough said....

@viiixixo8026 Ай бұрын

Honestly these two are proof that contrary to popular belief, not all press is good press.

@criminalmindsgirl2936 Ай бұрын

Trying to be Miley Cyrus. Let's be honest..."Flowers" saved Miley's career. Because her Bangerz era almost destroyed it. Along with her wild antics. Hopefully Miley now realized she doesn't need to be over sexual to sell music.

@LaraCookie5 Ай бұрын

Bangerz restored her career again. Her wild antics did ruin it after!

@OrkunPisirgen-kj4oi 5 күн бұрын

@@LaraCookie5i dont think her career ever ruined malibu was a top 10 hit plastic hearts to this they have cult following and deserves it i mean she did a cover and has 200 milion views on youtube 😅

@LaraCookie5 5 күн бұрын

@@OrkunPisirgen-kj4oi She never got the same buzz after Bangerz. Thankfully, for the succes of Flowers.

@OrkunPisirgen-kj4oi 5 күн бұрын

@@LaraCookie5 she didnt promote anything after bangerz thats why even flowers not promoted much just tiktok she didnt do tour since bangerz she does a album then she vanishes then she comes back with another

@LaraCookie5 5 күн бұрын

@@OrkunPisirgen-kj4oi Miley did promote her music, just not as aggressively as other artists. During her Bangerz era, she gained massive attention due to the controversy surrounding it. Coming off Hannah Montana, she transformed into a wild persona with a short pixie cut, which drew a lot of attention. However, after Bangerz, her Dead Petz era didn’t create much buzz because she had fallen off the charts, and people had grown tired of her outrageous behavior-sticking her tongue out and being vulgar constantly. Her Malibu era came and went, with the only memorable moment being her Billboard performance. She attempted to regain momentum with *She is Coming*, but the project was eventually canceled, and even songs like "Mother’s Daughter" didn’t generate much interest. Miley did actively promote *Plastic Hearts*, performing at the VMAs, pre-Super Bowl events, and more. Despite these efforts, her stardom has waned, largely because she lost a lot of fans during her "wild" phase, and many of them switched to other pop stars. It’s not accurate to say she didn’t promote her music, as she had many live performances and appearances at events like the VMAs. Her last album only gained significant attention because of the success of "Flowers," but it’s clear she’s no longer the "it-girl." She remains an A-list celebrity, but that’s about it. Even her collaboration with Beyoncé didn’t perform well, peaking at number six on the Billboard charts before quickly dropping. If the song had been with Ariana Grande, it likely would have been a more stable hit. Have a nice day! Oh, and I won’t be commenting anymore.

@blueprint0162 Ай бұрын

Honest, you have to play fair. When it comes to the Diddy cameo to be fair to Jesy, this was 2 years (2022) BEFORE all the stuff came out about him so I don’t think that it’s fair to say that by him makng a cameo (at the time), was a bad move on Jesy’s part for a debut solo song. Now, if she had released the song AFTER the Diddy stuff then I would agree with your point however, as it was before I don’t think it should be used against her. Jesy didn’t navigate her departure from Little Mix very well at all. She had already fallen out with the rest of the group and was bashing the groups sound. Fair enough that she was more into r&b than pop, but it was the girly pop sound that gave her the platform she has to make music. She shouldn’t have parted with the group in a negative way and bash her former group members. Then to say that you needed a break to take time away, when in fact you were planning on releasing solo music, is what made her not come off well. The song and video in (terms of her look) is what gave negative feedback. I guess some Little Mix fans didn’t like her anymore due to how she left the group and on the other hand, people felt that she was trying too hard to ger away from the Little Mix pop image to be more cool and ‘urban’. The controversy about her look relating to blackfishing also came up which didn’t help then, to add on to all of that there was more drama between her and Leigh-Anne and Nicki Minaj got involved defending Jesy-which caused more problems. The song didn’t land well due to Jesy try too hard to be cool and urban and people found her image and the song corny. Jesy is lost when it comes to music. She shouldn’t have burnt bridges with her ex group members and really should’ve taken time out to figure out who she is and her sound because by doing that, she would’ve had an authentic transition into a solo artist. Maybe in the future she will come out with more believable and better music but for now, she needs to find her way.

@LP-ct9nk Ай бұрын

People in the industry have known about Diddy for years. There’s a reason his appearances in songs started to dwindle even before the allegations came out Not to mention she worked with Nicki and all the stuff about her man was definitely known and an issue but jesy didn’t care cuz she was starstruck

@AG-fg1uk Ай бұрын

@@LP-ct9nkNicki brought hype to the song as this was her first feature since a 2 year hiatus. Everyone liked the single when it dropped. Things went downhill when Leigh anne brought up blackfishing to obviously rain on her release. That's what white pop stars were doing at that time including Ariana Grande.

@amoreweasley5302 Ай бұрын

@AG-fg1uk That is quite a lot of lies. Everyone clearly hated it. I’m pretty sure there’s an article from Harvard talking about the song being horrible. The reception to the song was so clearly negative. And it’s weird to say things went downhill from Leigh Anne talking about the blackfishing cause that’s another lie. Everyone already talked about it after her first picture after the announcement she was leaving the group when she was still dark. Then more people talked about it after the teasers for the song came out. Then much more people talked about it right after the music video was released. People didn’t start talking about it because of Leigh Anne. You’re twisting things to take blame off of Jesy

@Stardrop-luck Ай бұрын

Boyz was a decent song but i really like bad thing more, it felt more real and i was able to connect with it more than boyz which became quite forgettable after awhile,bad thing definitely deserved more than it got❤

@8407x Ай бұрын

jesy slander? let me get my snacks ready!!

@MockingjayCity 10 күн бұрын

“Bahlegdehhh!!!” - Jesy ‘The Jamaican’ Nelson

@callumsahota8799 Ай бұрын

I really liked Jesy's first single

@Janice.g1357 Ай бұрын

Same😭

@hi-bd5kn Ай бұрын

You know it’s bad when jesy nelson is being compared to bloody jojo siwa

@emeline02 Ай бұрын

Forgot Jesy existed lmao

@Anyre. Ай бұрын

How about calling it the Freshman Flop

@Young4eva121 Ай бұрын

0:33 Scared the crap out of me

@donjai9366 Ай бұрын

Hi Honest speaking of Ariana Grande at 1:38 when are we gonna get that Eternal Sunshine review ? 🤔

@dor4376 Ай бұрын

Jessy, so smart to leave a great band to make "her type of music" (well, diddy's cover, how nice😂)

@dsamsooni4598 Ай бұрын

Honestly if Jesy made a song about "Balegdeh" and made it her debut single it would have been iconic

@v_v_zip Ай бұрын

Considering the Boyz would have been a hit, I dont think Jesy doesn't even DESERVE to be along side Jojo and Karma as a bad debut. Jojo and Karma were DESTINED to flop because of the way Jojo handled it while Jesy's problem wasn't the song but her CONTINUOUS scandals of mistreating little mix members(Especially Leigh-Anne) and her constant blackfishing

@PennyMsElite Ай бұрын

Diddy a career killer😂

@riojordan3659 Ай бұрын

Next up ‼️ can you please do normani’s debut downer and chloe bailey…. Both of there debuts surprisingly did not take off ….

@90swannabe56 Ай бұрын

I’m quick but I’m late loool. At least Normani is eatingggg

@dodinik4466 Ай бұрын

I don't know about that. I'm sorry for Normanis management, but her album is boring af

@dreameva1400 Ай бұрын

@@dodinik4466 Jesy is boring too

@joncerda351 Ай бұрын

Honest, I LOVE ALL THESE VIDEOS. Can we talk about Chappel Roan? She's only debut and the gays are crowning her next Gaga etc. I see her as Taylor Swift for the gays, I genuinely don't get it. Until I see her #1 singles, she's not the next anything.

@Iceking__21_ Ай бұрын

lavabettabetta annaswii, baboymaresseppi, beinnaiz aliroboureinwen you in betuin da sheetz

@RihannaChristina Ай бұрын

Jesy wanted to be the Beyonce of the group but she couldn’t even be the Camilla of the group. Nobody was hungry for her

@ostrichesarecool2635 Ай бұрын

I’m sorry but I loved the song “boyz” the visuals were pretty and the song was a little nostalgic bop, it’s kinda sad to see how the controversy gathered more attention than the actual song

@MagnoliaBelle369 29 күн бұрын

Perfect exploration and summation.

@Jolenecorn Ай бұрын

Lesson learned if is not your time don't waste your time.

@adamwayne6301 Ай бұрын

Jesy did NOT deserve the hate train she got. Thats shit was so ridiculous.

@1louisprotector28 Ай бұрын

Coming from a former fan of her, she did deserve it. If she didn't start her solo career trying to be someone she never was, it wouldn't have backfired on her. Blocking fans who loved her and just trying to educate her on what she was doing, she definitely deserved the hate.

@adamwayne6301 Ай бұрын

@@1louisprotector28 the blackfishing stuff was so ridiculous. She can tan if she wants and wear whatever the fuck she wants.

@adamwayne6301 Ай бұрын

@@1louisprotector28 get outta here with the wokey pokey bull crap

@1louisprotector28 Ай бұрын

@@adamwayne6301 Lmfao!! You're so mad. And since she can do and wear what she wants and steal black culture she deserves hate. I hope she continues to get hated on and her career flops.

@1louisprotector28 Ай бұрын

@@adamwayne6301 You're so mad lmfao!! If she can do and wear whatever then she should get used to the hate.

@EclecticPotpourri Ай бұрын

did I miss the blackfishing part of the video?

@murrrmur Ай бұрын

no, he didn't even mention it, which was very surprising to me.

@EclecticPotpourri Ай бұрын

@@murrrmur with the whole union Jack sequin durag lol.

@chiara8822 Ай бұрын

boyz is just so unoriginal. i know it's a p diddy sample, but why copy the entire music video?

@emilykubicek8885 Ай бұрын

This video just reminds me that I loved Bad Thing by Jesy. I hope she can recover from this or find a niche audience or something.

@twiiterthread3885 Ай бұрын

BAD BOY NO RECIPE BEGIN NICE A LITTLE BORING WHNE IN BETWEEN MY SHEETS SHEETS

@Justyna-dg4hs Ай бұрын

Boys was a real banger

@TheJoeySheehan 18 күн бұрын

That pop sound blew my headphones dude

@DW-bk5nb Ай бұрын

I’d argue jojos launch ,while corny, was definitely successful atleast for the meme. I could easily see her pivoting into better music and everyone suddenly unironically enjoying her

@LP-ct9nk Ай бұрын

Yup all it takes is a bop and then people will like her again. The public has short memories when it comes to stuff like that

@JAZZYJSCOOBY Ай бұрын

In Jesy's defense, the general public was not aware of all the craziness Diddy has been involved in (aside from gossip, we just started learning about Diddy's stuff in 2023), so I imagine she didn't know when her song was released in 2021.

@juliolgiati Ай бұрын

The worst parts of Jojo’s controversy were saying she wrote the song, saying she changed the sound completely from the previous version, saying she didn’t know who Brit Smith was, saying she wanted to invent gay pop, saying she didn’t knwo who Gene Simmons was.. etc. It was more her lack of awareness than the fact that it was not as good as Brit’s one

@Shaniya82 Ай бұрын

What hurts me the most is that these girls are really talented, hope they bounce back from all these mess.

@user-cw4gi2tq7w Ай бұрын

Jesy is not😂

@anastasiap1856 Ай бұрын

@@user-cw4gi2tq7w Between Jesy and Jojo, Jesy's by far the most talented. I don't like her. But I've known her since Little Mix for a long time. Unlike Jojo, she is objectively a great vocalist when she utilises her voice right, and in the context of the group she had both great dance skills and stage presence.

@OoOme-qr4wk Ай бұрын

@@user-cw4gi2tq7w Talent wise Jesy can sing dance and rap Jojo is just a dancer

@mildhoof 25 күн бұрын

I don't think it's gone wrong for Jojo (yet), she's become a household name through cringe alone. Not sure who her marketing team are, but if they capitalise on this correctly they could be launching a big career here.

@xoluciaxo_3721 Ай бұрын

Jojo’s debut is actually quite succesful if you think about it, the song and dance went crazy viral on tiktok. Even though its just to make fun of it, everyone did that dance 💀

@blackandbluemadness7965 Ай бұрын

Jesy just burned all her brudges and destroyed every trace of good will people still had for her, then released a mediocre song. There was no coming back from that

@MyHam-os4bq Ай бұрын

The video I’ve been waiting for. Let’s giddit

@brandontakesthestorm6897 Ай бұрын

I love how yall still making Jesy famous 🤪 haha

@bladeeshotgf5500 Ай бұрын

It’s not necessarily making her famous when you’re pointing out how much of a flop she is LOL nobody is running to listen to her music babes so she doesn’t benefit all

@brandontakesthestorm6897 Ай бұрын

@@bladeeshotgf5500 wether good press or bad press she still winning 🤣💅

@briasandifer210 Ай бұрын

@@brandontakesthestorm6897If the bad press doesn’t translate to her music being bought and streamed, then no she isn’t. But hey, you tried.

@mallowuy4726 28 күн бұрын

This is what happens when you follow your dreams, when you follow your heart and when you do what makes you happy. People will drag you down if things don't meet their standard.