Glad I could help! Thanks for watching.

Hope you enjoy it! Thanks for watching!

Thanks for watching! Good luck with the machine if you decide to go for it.

Glad it was helpful!

Great to hear! Hope the treadmill works well for you!

Thanks for watching!

Do you know how long the electrical cord is on it? I can't find that info on the website anywhere. Thanks!

Hope you enjoy it! Thanks for watching.

Thanks for the run down on the differences with the newer version. Hopefully that will be useful for viewers! I have to agree the AFG Pro app is not great - I remember fighting with it to get the users set up and have not used it since.

​@@BGRFamily We've had ours for about 2 weeks and so far we're happy with it. Two things we have noticed: We get shocked when touching the frame after running hands free for a bit. I wish the manual had instructions on how to do simple things through the interface, such as change the machine from miles to km. I found instructions on Horizon's FAQ, but the manual mentions nothing.

I hope you like the treadmill! There have been a few people asking, so I will have to look at making a lubrication and maintenance video soon. Thanks for watching!

I have the same treadmill over a year and half now I got this one since they stopped making the peloton model at that time. I was wondering if you wouldn’t mind sharing the belt lubricant that you got from Amazon? That’s genius because it’s a pain to looses and tighten the belt so often you’re totally right

I purchased the bottle from the link below (its an Amazon Canada link but should give you something to start with). After I used it up I filled with the normal Johnson Fitness / Horizon bottles that they sell. When I first got this, there didn't seem to be a lot of options but when I look now there seems to be several companies specifically selling treadmill lubricant in these kinds of bottles - so definitely hunt around as there could be good cheaper options out there now. www.amazon.ca/100-Silicone-Treadmill-Lubricant-Application/dp/B0153WN84E/ref=d_pd_sbs_sccl_3_2/143-1995043-2162521?pd_rd_w=wauyI&content-id=amzn1.sym.c1849561-aea0-48eb-b576-ba648ed69471&pf_rd_p=c1849561-aea0-48eb-b576-ba648ed69471&pf_rd_r=FV9G8DMF7G541NSFX785&pd_rd_wg=xfRDz&pd_rd_r=750ecd73-1ba5-4a76-99a3-6c25b857a70c&pd_rd_i=B0153WN84E&psc=1 Thanks for watching!

@@BGRFamily Thank you very much for the helpful info!

Hope it works out for you. With a similar size and run speeds, I have broken the deck on treadmills from this brand as well. But these decks are an easy replacement at least. Our last treadmill was a Nordictrack which is under the same umbrella as proform, and it was awful to change the deck on.

@@BGRFamily Thanks for your response! Just to pick your mind a bit more if you don't mind. Would you say the Horizon 7.4 would be worth the upgrade for the price with the stronger motor, heavier weight capacity and longer warranty?

Honestly, we wanted to go with the 7.4 for the wider deck as well as for the other items you mention, but when we were buying the 7.4 was out of stock. That and we got the 7.0 on a deal that was $400-500 off at the time and the 7.4 didn't have the same deal listed even if it was in stock. That would have been hard to justify the price difference. I think for most people the extra year of labor is definitely worth something, but the real selling point for the 7.4 for me is the extra 2 years of parts even without the labor. Being decently handy, I find this brand to be pretty straight forward to install new parts so the extra 2 years of being able to keep it running is worth a fair bit to me. Hope that helps!

We do still recommend the treadmill - no additional issues beyond what was in the video have occurred. The thicker deck might have helped with the original deck/belt issues but the original issue was really due to a too focused wear down in one spot - so, I don't think it would have made much of difference in the end. In the end, we don't regret getting the 7.0 and if you were restricted in space and the ability to get the treadmill to where you need it to go, I personally would lean to the 7.0 for your use case. Hope that helps!

I don't know if there is a way to lock out the controls but what we do is use the interval setting buttons on the handles to set our desired speed and incline. That way, if we bump one of the rollers we can quickly hit the button and set it back to what we want without fiddling around too much. It's probably not ideal but it works for us. So what we do is get up to the speed and incline we want and then press and hold one of the buttons on the handles until there is a bit of a flash and beep. Then if we bump the rollers we will just quickly hit the button to reset to what we saved. Hope that helps, thanks for watching!

I just got the 7.4, which has the same dials. We don't need them, so I fixated them with electric tape.

Hi

Yeah, we were heavily leaning to the 7.4 too, but it just doesn't get the same deals as the 7.0. That was one of the big reasons we decided to go with the 7, we couldn't justify that the differences were worth that much.

Ours measures just under 19.5" width wise. There is not a lot of room between the edge of the belt and the side rail on our machine, but there is no rubbing - the side rails are high enough off the deck that the belt would almost need to be curling up on the sides to rub though. Hope you can get it sorted! Thanks for watching

Hi there, thanks for watching! I don't have any experience with the Sprint 8 program so I can't really do a real comparison myself. There are some parts of doing it manually with two side buttons that a program could help make easier for sure. Here is what we do: 1. start the treadmill and get it to up to one of the two speeds that you want to program, usually I do the slower speed first and press and hold the left button until the get the acknowledgement that the setting is programmed 2. get up to the second speed (higher speed for me) and I then press and hold the right button until the setting is saved. 3. I then start my work out and use a short press on whichever side button I need. This does work for us, but it can be a bit fiddly to get the higher speed button set to what you want if you are really pushing it at the higher setting. It can also be a bit tricky to get the lower speed setting button to trigger when you are pushing it as well - since you hit the button with your thumb while holding the grip it means at the higher pace run, you need to grab on and then hit the button - can be tricky for sure. Alternative there though is to use the speed roller on the right stick to quickly bring you speed down to a safer speed to grab the handle and hit the button. Hope that helps!

Perfect. Thank You!!

Ours is the version released in the last half of 2020. I would certainly assemble it myself again, but I am able to handle moving around the heavy pieces and I am mechanically inclined - assembling it yourself may not be for you. We are still have liking the treadmill, yes. Thanks for watching!

We heavily considered the 7.4 for the added size, robustness and additional warranty but it was not in stock and after several weeks of waiting for a restock, we pulled the trigger on the 7.0 instead. We felt the 7.8 was too large a price difference for features we weren't going to use. With any of our other treadmills from the same parent company, we never had motor or roller issues, just the deck and belt - which does make sense as they are the pieces taking the direct pounding. Potentially lubricating more often could be useful but there is a risk with over lubricating the deck in increasing the chance of the belt slipping - which is not something you want happening either! Thanks for watching

Thanks for watching! The users need to be set up using the AFG Pro app - the app is a bit wonky and getting it to work the first time can be strange. It has been a long time since I used the app so I can't remember the details of how I got it going off hand, unfortunately.

@@BGRFamily No worries, thanks for replying!

At a minimum I record total distance and overall time but will usually also record speed/pace, incline, any interval work & which shoes I ran in. When I was heavily training for multiple marathons and ultras, I would also record all the info in a spreadsheet where I could track overall mileage for the week versus training planned miles, also if I ran inside and outside and what conditions were like. Tracking is very important to help you get better over time and to help encourage you if you get frustrated at some point. I would start by being very basic but as you really get into running, there are so many variables, and you will want to track many of them to be really able to see how far you have come. For example, if you just record distance and time, when you look back later you might wonder why one run was really slow...and forget that you did it outside in a foot of snow.... Hope that helps. Thanks for watching!

@@BGRFamily thanks for your info, it helps me a lot : )

Strange, we ordered right off the Horizon site and home delivery was definitely included. Or at least delivery to the door was included. Depending on what treadmill you are looking at, another option might be Canadian Tire as they have the 7.0AT and the T101 and T202 models...just make sure to wait for a sale and then they should match the price on the Horizon site. Thanks for watching.

We still recommend the treadmill, well over a year and a half after getting it. Good luck with your search and decision!

No, we haven't heard anything that seemed out of place. Thanks for watching

The crappy one was a NordicTrack - awful controls, the deck cushioning sucked too much energy out of the legs when running, maintenance and repair was not good (belt replacement requires almost a full dismantle of the deck portion) and don't get me started on the iFit software crashing turning the whole machine into a 300 pound underpowered android tablet. We did look a bit at Soles and they had good reviews and we heavily considered the Horizon 7.4 (but there were stock issues at the time). I don't remember looking at Lifespans specifically though - so can't speak to those. Our major drivers were solid manual controls that didn't force the use of apps and ease of maintenance, and the Horizon fit the bill for us there. The runDisney events are definitely a lot of fun - recommended for sure once things return more to normal. Thanks for watching!

@@BGRFamily Thanks :) :) All of that is very helpful!!

The belt/treadmill is pre-lubricated - and then lubricate every 150 miles or 3 months after that

@@BGRFamily I just assembled the new 7.0 treadmill and it immediately came up with the lube message after a few minutes. Do you think I should ignore it and just reset? Do you have an amazon link to the silicone and bottle with long spout that you found worked? ps ...thanks for your videos. Made it easier to put the treadmill together

That's interesting, I am surprised by that. I think you should be ok to reset and ignore it if the belt is brand new - you could confirm with Horizon Fitness to be absolutely sure though. What I used was this: www.amazon.ca/100-Silicone-Treadmill-Lubricant-Application/dp/B0153WN84E/ref=sr_1_4_sspa?crid=2YFVZG9I76ZFS&keywords=treadmill+belt+lubricant&qid=1669599180&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIzLjQyIiwicXNhIjoiMy4zNCIsInFzcCI6IjMuMTQifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=treamill+%2Caps%2C99&sr=8-4-spons&psc=1&smid=A3DEFW12560V8M&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFTQk1ISEQ3M0Y5VkomZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTAzODQ3MjQ0R0VLMFVaV1M4N1cmZW5jcnlwdGVkQWRJZD1BMDMxNzYyMTNSSFFGOVJJMlpMT1Emd2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGYmYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl It seems to work pretty good for me - I do see there are more options available now with a nozzle, but that link should give a good idea of what could work. Hope that helps - thanks for watching!

Hi there, our belt does not say horizon on it. We don't have any issues with keeping belt centered but did have an issue with that for a previous treadmill. With that one, the issue was that the treadmill was not leveled from one side to other at the back. The front was fine but with the back not level it caused a bit of a warp that caused the belt to pull to one side. That is maybe one thing you can check. Not sure if that will help, but good luck on getting it sorted out!

Thank you, I used a level and it worked like a charm. My basement built in the 50’s wasn’t exactly flat.

Glad to hear!

Hi there, thanks for watching! You can change your units from imperial to metric - for some reason I always default to miles when doing running stuff though. I just recently added a video for how I lubricate the treadmill: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pZqZh65evqi6Z6s.html&ab_channel=BigGoofyRunner%26Family

@@BGRFamily thank you very much!

I think there could be a few reasons why that occurs, but if you did adjust the belt, it is likely that some minor adjustments need to be done. If it slow slides to the left, either the left side is too loose or the right side is too tight. I would likely start with the assumption the left side is too loose and go from there. To correct it, you need to turn the left bolt clockwise to tighten up the left side. Turn it about a quarter turn and test, and continue until it stays steady and doesn't drift. After you do that, I would check to see how tight the belt is overall - if it seems extremely tight and stretched, I would back loosen both sides an equal amount and check everything again. It can be a bit finicky to get everything lined up properly, which is the main reason I generally lube the belt now without loosening everything. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pZqZh65evqi6Z6s.html Hope that helps!

@@BGRFamily Thanks I think I fixed it. I tightened the left side. I haven’t ran on it yet, but letting it run by itself, it didn’t look like it was moving.

Cool! Hope that gets it all sorted for you.

It was a Nordictrack C 1750 (2014 model) bought new in Jan 2015 - on paper it was a fantastic machine, robust, long warranty, decent price, and lots of features. In practice it had some major issues for us: 1. Capacitive style touch buttons for speed and incline would not work consistently - if you hit the button to go up 0.1 mph, it might take the button press, it might not, or it might start cranking the speed up like the button was stuck. You just never knew what was going to happen if you tried to change the speed or incline. 2. "Cushioning" deck was too cushiony - it would absorb too much of your impact while running and would suck the energy out of your run (think a bit like running in sand or snow). Having something like that occasionally as part of training plan could be a positive, but having it for every run was exhausting both physically and mentally. If you changed the settings to not use the cushioning, it sounded like you were running on a drum - literally the loudest treadmill I had ever run on. Definitely couldn't use it that way early in the morning or when the kids were sleeping. 3. Build issues: A. had a bolt holding the deck to the frame snap mid run once B. Replacing the belt required an almost complete tear down of the deck portion of the machine - others I have done are built to make that an easier process. C. Control software - essentially is a very weak Android tablet with an app that controls the treadmill. That application got corrupted via an update once and the machine could not be used at all until I found a copy of the application to manually load back onto the machine. The support site had a "link" to download the application, but the link was broken, and support was not helpful. Luckily someone had a KZfaq video where they ran into the same issue and they had saved a copy of the application that I was able to get. We tried to adapt to 1 and 2 but in the end, we started dreading getting on the machine as we didn't know what it was going to decide to do that day. Anyway, that is enough of a rant on that. I see that Nordictrack has continued to upgrade this model number and maybe it is better. But I won't be getting another one of their machines. But...thanks for watching!

@@BGRFamily Wow that was a pain in the rear for you guys.

​@@BGRFamily Thanks for that detailed review. I was considering that brand and model as well but you've definitely convinced me to doge that bullet lol

It looks like there is a version of the treadmill sold by Canadian Tire here in Canada with a different console than the one sold directly on the Horizon Fitness website. I am wondering if that is the one you have. It would definitely be a mistake by the manufacturer to not have how to reset the lube message somewhere in the manual. Comparing the consoles between the two units - it looks like the Canadian Tire one has media play buttons where the incline and speed buttons are on the other version. It is a long shot but the speed up button on mine would be in the same location as the play/pause button on the Canadian Tire one. Hope that helps!

@@BGRFamily yes that’s the version I have. It’s sold byDicks Sporting Goods in the states. I did find after an hour of searching that it is the play/pause button. Even the Horizon website and manual I got with it say speed up. Little error on there part but loving the tread and your videos. They definitely helped influence me to buy this one over others I was looking at.

Glad you got it sorted out and you are enjoying the treadmill. Thanks for watching!

We have the standard warranty that comes with the 7.0 - 1 year parts and labor and 3 year parts. Thanks for watching!

Yep, still good

Great .. Thanks for replying

Still holding up!

@@BGRFamily thanks for replying! i ordered the 7.4 at

Cool - hope you like it!

Yeah, Johnson Fitness owns Horizon, Matrix, Vision and a few other brands as well.

That seems pretty doubtful. A good belt is likely max 5-7 years with moderate use by a lighter person. As we indicated in the video, the issue here was about how the treadmill was used and not with the treadmill itself.

@@BGRFamily We had had the treadmill for a short while, and I walked on the treadmill during my whole pregnancy. That child is turning 20 in three days.

You don't really indicate that you have used the treadmill since your pregnancy. And walking versus running has a huge impact on machine life. I am sure many would like to know what treadmill you have

@@BGRFamily Yes of course we have used the treadmill as a whole family. My husband is an ultra marathon runner 100+ mile events. Both my now adult daughters used it once they were old enough. I have use it for 2-4 mile walks. It is a Vision treadmill - not made anymore. I'm just pointing out - new treadmills seem to be made to break.

Thanks for the info - if anything the amount of use indicated makes it less believable that you have no issues in 20+ years of using the treadmill. ANY mechanical piece of equipment will have some kind of problem over 20 years of use. While I agree most things are being designed to fail now, especially large home electronics, I do not feel like that was what your original point was. It is important to note that Vision Fitness is owned by the same umbrella company as Horizon Fitness - they are both owned by Johnson Fitness - and they fill different niche's. Vision treadmills are aimed more commercial and Horizon is more home use and they are priced very differently. For example, as of writing this, the latest version of our 7.0 Horizon treadmill is going for under $1000 as part of a sale and the cheapest Vision treadmill is listed at over $5000 on the Johnson Fitness site. The Vision does have more robust parts like a thicker deck and more powerful motor however for home use has a 7 year parts warranty where the Horizon has a 3 year parts warranty. The average home user will have to make the decision if a bit over double the warranty will justify 5x the cost. Obviously other factors will play in there too for a decision but it does highlight that no one should be expecting 20 years of life out of a treadmill with "ZERO problems". Thanks for watching