Horizon Forbidden West - The Story of the Far Zenith Humans EXPLAINED! All Hidden Lore + Scenes

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The Story of the Far Zenith Humans EXPLAINED! All Hidden Lore + Scenes Horizon Forbidden West
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@Simseh729 Жыл бұрын

One thing I'm consistently impressed with is the body acting of Tilda, I don't know if they Mo-capped the VA but the way she moves her arms in this big sweeping yet restrained motions, almost like shes delivering a keynote speech even though shes only talking to Aloy, just says so much about her character in such a subtle way. Props to everyone involved

@silverhawkscape2677 2 жыл бұрын

Far Zenith. Rich people decide to Bail Earth and Come Back to be gods.

@kristanwilliams2553 2 жыл бұрын

that true

@ugoeze7360 2 жыл бұрын

Actually I thought they were coming back as a way station. They had no interest with staying in Earth to become gods. Faro on the other hand…

@chubbysumo2230 2 жыл бұрын

@@ugoeze7360 pretty much, they have the mistakes of their own creation chasing after them, the actual origination of the extinction signal, it is never addressed that while the Odyssey is orbiting Earth, what happens to the rest of the people on the Odyssey? The ship supposedly had room for about 1,000 people, are the rest just not caring that the supposed leaders of the group were killed? What happens now?

@Peter-ew4df 2 жыл бұрын

Somehow still lost to a bunch of cavemen.

@LordTelperion 2 жыл бұрын

Well, they did have 200,000 human embryos. The colony must have been quite substantial before Nemesis killed all but 12.

@ComputerJunkie00 2 жыл бұрын

Tilda struck me as a coward. Spineless, constantly claiming that the folks in Far Zenith weren't her people, that nothing was her idea, that she had no knowledge of whatever they were doing. Come on now.

@moniquelegarda1842 2 жыл бұрын

I think she was driven insane in some way. Remember how she described Nemesis as going mad after having to deal with all the megalomaniacs and their prejudices for decades?

@sushivision 2 жыл бұрын

She lied, obviously. She hatched her own scheme to manipulate Aloy and the gang into helping her overthrowing the Zenith and ultimately drag Aloy (a "perfect" copy of her former lover) along with her to another planet. She isn't a coward, more of a selfish schemer. It became perfectly clear the contrast between Lis and Tilda, and why eventually they split.

@alexdurain3753 Жыл бұрын

You forgot about her pompous pontification in regards to art. Tilda thinks she’s the smartest person in the room, held back by the stupidity of others.

@eenalley Жыл бұрын

For someone who made billions being an information broker, she claims she's very poorly informed...

@TheFallinhalo Жыл бұрын

not to mention she wants to run and hide from Nemesis, forgetting one detail, it will continue searching for them, destroying eveyr planet insight just to find and eradicate them, eventually they will be found and then what tilda? only then will you fight? youre only way out of this mess was to fight, and you had the perfect opportunity and the upper hand to restablish humanity, build a army and prepare for its arrival. and you Squandered it.

@redick04clay 2 жыл бұрын

I could listen to Carrie Anne Moss give art history lessons all day

@LordTelperion 2 жыл бұрын

Amen!

@imanrich800gaming Жыл бұрын

yessir

@boobiedefloop6097 Жыл бұрын

Her voice acting is lazy and boring.

@redick04clay Жыл бұрын

@God is not real well a lot of people disagree with you lol

@JC-oq5ex Жыл бұрын

I knew I recognized that voice, fitting for her too.

@Woodsman9273 2 жыл бұрын

Bearded Varl is the move 👌🏻 loved his character progression

@masteroftheassassins 2 жыл бұрын

I really wish he had kept the beard.

@mateafilipova8292 2 жыл бұрын

I wished he didnt die....

@SleepyDroid 2 жыл бұрын

to bad he shaved it off.

@drewl1990 Жыл бұрын

Sadly Aloy couldn't shave him

@nori87 Жыл бұрын

@@drewl1990 I think i know what you mean😥😞

@xXxBlindsnowxXx Жыл бұрын

I had a sneaking suspicion the ENTIRE time about Tilda only helping Aloy bc she was still in love with Elizabet. She was kinda making me uncomfortable half the time with it 😂 Wasn't expecting her to fight Aloy for rejecting her but ig I shouldn't be surprised lol

@TheRealAdachi 8 ай бұрын

Yeah I avoided her room at the base at all costs

@LordTelperion 2 жыл бұрын

Something that was never addressed... The Odyssey originally had billions of plant seeds, millions of animal embryos, and 200,000 human embryos. How many of those were used to build Sirius Colony? How many remain to build a second colony? There were 60 or so berths when The Odyssey left the first time, so minimum 60 immortal originals. The holographic images of Sirius show it covered in cities, implying the embryos were birthed and a whole new civilization arose with the Zeniths as their ruling caste... but I think those images were just guesses of what Sirius looked like... maybe they never birthed the 200,000 embryos, or at least not all.

@BossDragon3000 2 жыл бұрын

My read of the Sirius Colony was that each member of Far Zenith each built cities for themselves only (with the exception of Las Vegas) not letting anyone else in

@rogerwilco2 2 жыл бұрын

I think most of the colony was VR and never built. These didn't seem the kind of people.

@ThePreciseClimber Жыл бұрын

Feels like we're definitely going to visit the Odyssey in Horizon 3.

@jamesmcdaniel3389 Жыл бұрын

@@ThePreciseClimber if there is Dlc, I feel like that would be part of it, unless it is like the dlc of HZD but that doesn’t seem plausible from the story

@MultiArchangel Жыл бұрын

I didn't see any cities on the hologram. I suspect they may have birthed some of the zygotes. I doubt they birthed all of them.

@Abraham_Torres Жыл бұрын

Tilda reminds me of people today how they really put “value” into materialistic things. Like how literally paintings have more value than a human life. It really shows what these kind of people care for most .

@sportsjefe 2 жыл бұрын

Around the 20 minute mark, Aloy's first conversation with Beta... I think Beta was proven completely wrong about Far Zenith's motives? The game is pretty heavy-handed sometimes in its messaging, Erik = Erik Prince, Gerard = Jeff Bezos, etc. but the ability to write it all off as Nemesis and not Far Zenith almost feels like a writer's room dispute.

@eden20111 Жыл бұрын

How did you compare Gerard to Jeff bezos? Gerard is more like Vecna from Stranger Things

@thegenjutsuuser 2 жыл бұрын

dayum i love the character developement between Alloy and Tilda, how weird is to talk to someone from the ancient world that managed to live for hunters of years

@BlkBowl Жыл бұрын

This game was amazing ngl and the new Machines that were added were also amazing. I beat the game a few days ago and I enjoyed the hell out of it.

@THEVOID5044 2 жыл бұрын

Either it’s drugs or I swear this game story is hinting something about real life almost inadvertently.

@rd6416 Жыл бұрын

Absolutely. It's an anecdotal hyperbolic "what if" based on today's world.

@leewilcox5848 2 жыл бұрын

When the Far Zenith got Gaia, Beta and Hephaestus why didn't they just immediately get to their shuttle and leave the planet where Aloy and her friends couldn't reach them.

@BossDragon3000 2 жыл бұрын

1. Because it take time to integrate the other sub functions. 2. They believe that no one could even touch them so why would they run

@syaifulhadi6373 2 жыл бұрын

@@BossDragon3000 that's right, they didn't expect to be attacked and killed by some "caveman"

@kjarllan7097 Жыл бұрын

they can't let Hephaestus come in their ship before he was merged again with Gaia. A Rogue Hephaestus in the ship is the last thing they wanted.

@DrHydra47 Жыл бұрын

@@kjarllan7097 if hepheastus came into control of their type cauldron again he could've destroyed the entire ship

@pedronunez1265 Жыл бұрын

Man I know I'm in the minority here. But I hope Tilda survived and will help us with the new upcoming threat.

@Stormbreaker1173 Жыл бұрын

I hope so but they probably killed her off because she’s expensive for a video game role lol

@LordTelperion 2 жыл бұрын

What is interesting is how they have the final catastrophe play out in miniature here again. In the first game the siege of Meridian was an echo of the last stand of Mankind at NORAD/USRC against the Faro Plague. Here, the fall of the Zenith base is an echo of the fall of their planet...this time the role of Nemesis is played by Tilda (and Hephaestus).

@acenull0 2 жыл бұрын

If Far Zenith was good for anything it's that they had a copy of Apollo. That's it 😂

@g-dub5272 Жыл бұрын

The surprises and shocking reveals remind me of Metal Gear series. No wonder Kojima was in the credits

@Peter-ew4df 2 жыл бұрын

Why did the Far Zenith go through the trouble trying to steal Gaia? The whole goal of the operation was for humanity to survive, and to start off with some extra tools and knowledge, to make rebuilding easier. Far Zenith presented Zero dawn with another opportunity for humanity to survive. Why not immediately equip them with everything they might need to guarantee success, including Gaia?

@NoxaClimaxX 2 жыл бұрын

Likely out of distrust: it wouldn’t be too out of character for the Zeniths (at least ones like Gerard) to just steal GAIA and run when the Odyssey first left.

@static2397 2 жыл бұрын

@@NoxaClimaxX agreed, travis tate the goat knew the zenith were shady af.

@LordTelperion 2 жыл бұрын

Zero Dawn was only made possible by repurposing the tech long under development for The Odyssey Project, as many of the blueprints for establishing an interstellar colony and terraforming an alien world would also be required to rebuild a dead Earth, such as the prototypes of what would become Apollo and Eileithyia. Zero Dawn would take these systems and propel them a quantum leap ahead of what they were. So while The Odyssey already had a prototype terraforming system, Far Zenith desperately wanted the more advanced systems that Zero Dawn was cranking out, so held certain tech hostage to get the governments of the world and Zero Dawn to share, which of course pissed off a lot of people, causing reprisals and their own actions against Far Zenith, more distrust and resentment, and the silly espionage games. Eventually as things got really critical most everyone realized the fight was pointless and just give each other what they needed...mostly.

@rob3612 2 жыл бұрын

Nemisis on the far zeniths tail, the far zeniths need gaia to teriform a new random world in a random direction that the far zeniths could avoid nemisis on, earth they know is doomed, they could never settle here just grab gaia and run, kill anything in their path as nemisis will kill it when it arrives.

@MikelosM Жыл бұрын

If I remember, Zero Dawn was only perfected right before Zero Day. I think Odyssey launched a decent amount of time before that, as Sobeck was still alive to report that it had exploded exiting the Solar System. It's possible they could have been given an incomplete copy had they not attempted to steal it prior, but I don't think the timeline would have allowed them to obtain the final Zero Day version even if it was on the table. It's still a pretty big plot hole, however, as even with FZ being lazy for a thousand years, the immense amount of technological advancement over that time - even on proverbial autopilot - should have allowed them to create their own equivalent terraforming solution relatively effortlessly in no time at all.

@manipenta 2 жыл бұрын

What I dont understand in this game is that Far Zenith had a 1000 years to improve their technology including gaining immortality, but they still need to travel years to steal a technology which is actually a 1000 years old? 1000 years after Sobeck died and they still cant just recreate gaia in like a month? Sobeck with her old tools, technology and team did it in 15 months and they choose to waste years travelling to steal it? :D That's a joke. It's like for us to travel years to steal Bell's telephone when we have 5G network :D

@emanuelquintanilla2520 2 жыл бұрын

I think they had something similar, after all they had these “printing facilities”, which I guessed were first ruled by some sort of AI (they were able to build them too, Julius being one of them) Now, I hardly think they had the technological knowledge to build an exact copy of GAIA and they never felt like they had too. So when Nemesis showed up and destroyed it all, their only hope for a third earth-like planet was to find the “old but gold” Zero Dawn System. Zero Dawn required several experts (alphas) and a support team (betas), and the surviving Zeniths just weren’t the kind of people who could build something as amazing as ZD

@syaifulhadi6373 2 жыл бұрын

@@emanuelquintanilla2520 Agreed, Nemesis destroys everything Far Zenith informations and technologies they're achieved. They didn't have enough information and time to build something similar like Gaia in Planet Sirius, something they need to make a new planet as home. so with all the Far Zenith Civilization technologies that left, they visit earth back only to get the copy of Gaia. And once they are done copying it, they will left the earth, and start a new civilization in another planet.

@andrewowens4421 2 жыл бұрын

@@emanuelquintanilla2520 When you're immortal you really don't have the need to advance your technology as you basically have everything you need (including the coming insanity from living forever) so in a lot of ways the Zenith's *regressed* as opposed to moved forward.

@KhanhDinh291 Жыл бұрын

could be that the more advanced system is lost to Nemesis. since it took over Sirius in a matter of hours, all they could realistically do is to run

@gracea9932 Жыл бұрын

That's probably because Nemesis destroyed everything on the colony planet so whatever terraforming tech they had there wasn't brought on board when they escaped. The escape seems to have happened fairly quickly too. So they essentially had to make a pit stop at Earth for GAIA. FZ strike me as the kind of people who delegate but don't actually work so they may not have tech experts with them to recreate a terraforming system.

@wiaf8937 Жыл бұрын

My deepest thanks for making this video. I own neither console, nor TV but im a massive sponge for all Fluff. So I thrive of these videos. Without you making those, Id never been exposed to such interesting "fluff". You rock, happy xmas from germany

@Ready17 11 ай бұрын

I just finished the game, and watching this I now realize... the whole conversation between Aloy and Tilda about the painting of Selene and Endymion is being used as a metaphor. Tilda views herself as Selene, and Endymion represents Aloy, the closest thing to Elisabet that Tilda can ever have again.

@mrdot1126 Жыл бұрын

in the end the girl stabbed the guy from the back, and some water like liquid was dripping from the spear.. have the "immortals" no red blood? or is it a pg bs?

@biorobot2 Жыл бұрын

The game does have blood , so the far zenith humans probably have synthetic blood instead of real one

@rikastemmet8849 2 жыл бұрын

I like the game it look cool and amazing and intended story it was awesome thanks for the video I Love

@mrbubbies_ Жыл бұрын

Also the way aloy was like "thats between me and my sister" gave me chills, very hype Twitches-esque moment

@Mosdefmedia Жыл бұрын

I feel like Far Zenith has other AI’s they will learn from. Also to help educate them on ways that they could stop Nemesis

@harryurbina3115 Жыл бұрын

I must of missed something but I am surprised Ted Faro didn’t join the Zenith. Anybody know why he didn’t join them?

@g-dub5272 Жыл бұрын

So he can become a god in the new world if Zero Dawn was successful

@grahamslover2834 Жыл бұрын

Because he was likely too proud of himself. Plus he may have already sealed himself into the special cauldron he had made for himself. As well, I doubt Far Zenith would want anything to do with Faro, since he caused everything to go so awful in the first place. Even they hate him, most likely. Especially if they had a thousand years to review his many crimes.

@DrHydra47 Жыл бұрын

Many reasons but Number 1 he hated the idea that his FUCK UP will be written on Apollo history Number 2 I don't think far zenith would've accepted him because the whole reason odyssey was made was to escape the faro plague and having the person who caused all this would've raised a lot of people's concerns Number 3 he probably wasn't allowed because he was morally and legally obligated to pay for the zero dawn program Number 4 he wanted to comeback as a type of God or Messiah to the new generation of humans birthed by Eleuthia to "guide" them to "advise" them For short if he was allowed onto the odyssey he would've been known as a coward on human history and simply he didn't want to leave earth

@Cerberusballs Жыл бұрын

WHy do I find that conversation between Erik and The Julius so funny?

@c4sualcycl0ps48 Жыл бұрын

17:45 I’m new to the Horizon community, but I hope “Beta” is jokingly referred to as “B”loy. Also two redhead twins who are wicked smart? That reminds me of something…

@mrbubbies_ Жыл бұрын

Underrated comment

@resonanceofambition 2 жыл бұрын

Flying dutchmen sorry I just can't stop laughing

@piousaugustus84 2 жыл бұрын

What I don't understand is that after 1,000 years you'd think the Zeniths would have no need of GAIA. Think about it. Being on a colony for at least 600+ years and being immortal their technological advancements would far exceed anything created by Faro or Sobek. You'd think they'd have a terraforming system far more advanced and capable than GAIA. Am I the only one who thought this?

@rogerwilco2 2 жыл бұрын

I think they spent most of their time playing power fantasies in VR.

@jakedemolisher5032 2 жыл бұрын

Nah, too many necks to snap in VR.

@sportsjefe 2 жыл бұрын

It's a bit of a catch all excuse, but we don't know what Nemesis destroyed. If Nemesis wiped out everything, and you're Far Zenith scrambling for an answer, going back to somewhere Nemesis won't be is your best shot.

@piousaugustus84 Жыл бұрын

@@sportsjefe I hadn't thought about it that way. Tilda did say they lived in a pampered dream-state and that the Odyssey was barely space worthy when they escaped.

@piousaugustus84 Жыл бұрын

@@jakedemolisher5032 for Erik maybe lol.

@khalborg Жыл бұрын

What bothers me with the far Zenith group is that they were too dependent on So Gaia Prime, all the while they had resources and the knowhow and the time to create their own terraforming AI instead of capturing and repurposing Gaia Prime Compared to Zero Dawn. At the very least they had a working copy of Apollo and access to Eluthia. If they can speed run training Beta into a functioning technologist, and having immortal technologists among their ranks, I believe they can do it. I don't get why they chose to return to earth and endanger Zero Dawn's new humanity while they know that's where Nemesis is going to hunt for them? They could spent those ~400 years salivating over Gaia when they could've made their own, terraform random planets while keeping away from Nemesis and allowing Zero Dawn to proceed as intended.

@bleddynwolf8463 2 жыл бұрын

36:38 hell yeah Aloi

@sydryi3086 Жыл бұрын

god it must be fun to be a zenith, they do have very cool powers

@bloodbond3 Жыл бұрын

"Gaia version 6.9" Nice. Lmao

@itsdantaylor Жыл бұрын

While I generally like the story and world building in Horizon....I think I am a little dissapointed in the Nemesis reveal. I mean in almost all robo-apocalypses its a rouge AI which wants to kill all humans, which was KIND of the case in HZD but i felt it was more....nuanced. The faro plauge was (seemingly) a glitch and HADES wasn't a rouge AI, just a AI trying to do it's job (kill everything) and then it was nice lead that it may have been released by some mysterious force which we thought were the Zeniths......only to then have it be that they are being hunted by what is obstensibly a rouge AI who wants to kill all humans.

@xzenitramx666 Жыл бұрын

ok watching this like this I realise something very, very creepy and straight down horrible about tilda. she said that the other zeniths endulge in VR fantasies, but or course shes lyeing she did it is well and his fantasy was elizabeth, and here she was going to force aloy to go with her and she was going to fullfil those fantasies and after 1000 years I dont thing those fantasies are just holding hands and say I love you, she was going to go Full Dark eldar/drukari on aloy and that idea makes my skin crawl.

@itsdantaylor Жыл бұрын

While I feel the Far Zeniths were a bit too....rushed in Forbidden West, it is a interesting contrast. HZD was basically, Cavemen with Robo dinos. BUT the zeniths seemingly represent what society could have easily turned into if Apollo wasn't deleted (though who knows with most of the previous inhabitants being dead may have helped them not screw up things as bad as they did) and while the citizens of various tribe's aren't all perfect they at least seem to have a lot better number of morally/ethically good people then the Far Zentihs. Showing the necessity of tech but not necessarily the need for over abundance.

@waleyre47507 Жыл бұрын

12:41 im trying to figure out what he meant by "VR" i mean ik it means virtual reality but like HOW DOES VR EXIST IN 3021???

@VideoGameSophistry Жыл бұрын

Virtual reality would exist?

@nori87 Жыл бұрын

Because they have the tech to have VR? What do you mean. Please elaborate

@bleddynwolf8463 2 жыл бұрын

1:30:08 hehe fuck you Sylens 1:31:01 HELL YEAH ALOI

@oliviamoore3426 Жыл бұрын

The Julius is a reference to fallout new Vegas, more specifically yes man. The lead writer of horizon was the lead writer on fallout new vegas

@VideoGameSophistry Жыл бұрын

John Gonzales wasn't the lead writer of FNV but he was a featured writer. Gonazles is no longer with Horizon but he did contribute to this story

@moniquelegarda1842 2 жыл бұрын

My suspicion is that the Woman's Voice is actually Tilda.

@ricardobrands9736 2 жыл бұрын

you meen gaia's? damn you strike a note there. It might actulay very well be but slightly younger. Damn good one

@DeKilte Жыл бұрын

@@ricardobrands9736 I think they mean the woman's voice at the beginning in the tutorial portion. The one who explained how FZ would steal Gaia.

@aidenparker5955 Жыл бұрын

the far Zenith for the rich people of the 31st century back at Earth, they willingly abandoned it to the ship and they went to the planet serious, many of the far Zeniths Sought a different kind of immortality,

@phantommaggotxxx Жыл бұрын

man, an EMP or 10 would have fixed SO many problems. Could have rebuilt the electrical in less than 100 years and killed AI in the process....

@tomefilho3902 2 жыл бұрын

There isn't audio!

@mrbubbies_ Жыл бұрын

"We need a calculating shrewd middle aged lesbian with deteriorating morals and an extremely plot relevant ex she cant get over" Carrie-Anne Moss: hello

@iexistnowhere5004 Ай бұрын

They're not modern humans, they're ancient.

@timchau8853 Жыл бұрын

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@ryder-9475 Жыл бұрын

Elon Musk is a Far Zenith lol

@harlemboywonda 2 жыл бұрын

Love your work, but I can't hear anything.

@LRio27 2 жыл бұрын

I think it's an error on select devices, on my computer the audio works fine.

@michaelproulx4811 2 жыл бұрын

Ya doesn't work on my cell

@choopies 2 жыл бұрын

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@rob3612 2 жыл бұрын

(Spoilers read at your own rusk) The far zeniths is the beginning of the end of horizon. Think about it, they brought Apollo back, the societies in horizon will be forced to advance technologically at a break neck speed. The innocence that is horizon is now lost. Sylens will devour the knowlege, and force it upon everyone who he can. By the middle of the next game at the latest bows and arrows will no longer be the weapons it will be forced into a wanna be fallout game. Rifles, lasers, and plasma weapons will be the norm. While i understand that Gaia will need to eventually stop, let the new biosphere evolve and mother nature take over, this could have happened in several different ways. With the inclusion of Apollo humans will in a very short time be able to monitor and correct the biosphere with the knowlege gained. Instead of a series that could extend with its innocence for several more chapters (the writing, story, character development, and interactions, make me want several more in this series) instead we are looking at 1 or 2 games tops before its Alloy HALO evolved. Horizon was a fresh breath in the rpg cookie cutter genre, now I fear its going to spiral out of control. Yes Hades had the blueprints for modern guns and scifi lasers, they were limited to shooting off a machine, bulky, and very limited ammo. More of a situational perk not a norm.

@ComputerJunkie00 2 жыл бұрын

What "innocence" are you talking about? People still assault, loop, rape, murder, and wage war in Horizon's world. That's not to say the world of Horizon isn't amazing or gorgeous, but the people within it are severely far behind in terms of knowledge, science, and technology.

@rob3612 2 жыл бұрын

Innocence as in their lack of knowledge. With knowlege comes responsibility, no amount of knowlege will ever transcend human nature. With knowlege we just learn more effective ways of hurting others.

@ComputerJunkie00 2 жыл бұрын

@@rob3612 We also learn more effective ways at helping and healing others.

@TrueLucinova 2 жыл бұрын

I'm fairly certain Horizon was always written with the intent of being a three-act story, not to mention that other potential stories can be told on the side; there's an entire world of terraformed locations to potentially explore, they don't have to star Aloy (the VR game won't for example)... they don't necessarily need to relate to the Extinction Signal either, the writers have already shown they are capable of writing diverse tribes with interesting people. On the other hand, it's also possible for the third game to just end off the series

@arsenalayres3736 2 жыл бұрын

@@rob3612 bro that was like ted faro's whole argument, youre literally endorsing his way of thinking rn lol

@de4d_x_v2 Жыл бұрын

Bruh I can't watch this I didn't finish the game yet

@jmalfonso7 Жыл бұрын

Me (after years of stasis like Futurama): Tell me secrets you know, like the ones of old. Alva: From what I have gathered, a man Logan Paul was heavily influenced by our people by through his wondrous works. He was described as benevolent and wise that we continue to worship Him as our Savior, a god in human form. Me: Yeah, about that....