Oral traditions are like that. The details get confused but the structure endures and if you know how to listen it still tells the story.

I love that they either live in or near NORAD military base

Bringing knowledge to these old coots! Lmaooo

I love how behind Aloy, Teersa is horrified by the suggestion that there is no Goddess.

Only a woman can say this with 100% assurance. She has made up her mind. Also that look at 2:16

@Louis Carlos No one gives a damn.

My moms not a door!!! Duh!!!

lmfao we can safely name floppy disks, "corrupters"

I love Sylens as a character, he's such a dick. This quietly menacing, end-justify-means, sketchy as fuck ally who you can never quite trust but still saves your ass on occasion.

It's true tho lol (They would have loved her tbh)

Aloy is the first child of two lesbians, proud of them

Great delivery for the line. Reddick always gets me with that. Also, I’d take being a near identical clone over the other possibility. Until that moment, we never got full confirmation whether Elisabet and Ted were anything more to each other (I know about Tilda; I played HFW) so until that point it was fully possible that she was some how a genetic mix “child” of the two. Imagine having Ted Faro as you sperm donor. …Actually don’t. It’s too horrifying to consider.

Hits ya right in feels! Such an amazing story!

He's such a dick. I have a few friends like him. Maybe with a stronger moral compass, though.

kinda weird to call your clone a mother

Um? Have you not played the game? I have. It literally specified in the game that she had 2 mothers and one was Elizabeth and the other was a machine, Gaia. Sylens even says it himself. You’d know if you played the game.

@@NotSoCheyenn you're literally quoting Sylens. Elizabet is not Aloy's mother. She is her clone geneprint. But that's the closest to a mother Aloy ever had, therefore she was dubbed the mother. Elizabet is not her real mother. Aloy's true mother does not exist.

@@Nimbus3690 well technically speaking clones are called Daughters and the Source of genetic material of the clone is the Mother. So yeah, Sylens was right that she has two mothers. Her Genetic mother and the one that gave "birth" to her which is Gaia.

@@Nimbus3690 Or Elizabeth's mother is her mother as well.

See the TV series and movie they made recently make me think it is better that they have their paws away from Horizon :(

A movie would never do it justice

AAAAAAAA The godess speakth! It's just confirming my identity.

Jokes aside, I do love that they wrote a proper religious-system, understanding how they're formed through peoples desire to explain the why, the how and the when of their existence and world. If only toilet faro had'nt destroyd Apollo.

@@electricc437 love faro's nickname but i like to call him theodick fuckro a arrogant and idiotic p-rick to the end with a huge god like complex (and he is probably super overcompensating for his tiny size brain and manhood) look at horizon forbidden west trust me he gets worst.

You obviously haven’t done a side quest

@@matty_daddy side quests are great

Some side quests are so bad. Remember the guy who claimed he heard spirits scream inside his head? Yeah. Glad the Frozen Wilds fix this problem. The lip sync, movement, and voice acting was far better

kevin mulia yeh, and when she had to say goodbye to her brother it was like “oh no. Ok bye brother” it was like a robot. Especially since I had just finished the Witcher 3 and the voice acting in that game was phenomenal as well all the side quests

There are a few possible factors. One, would be that when Gaia created Aloy, the genetic code was enchanced slightly to give her significantly higher apptitude to interface and understand technology. Two, the other possiblity was that Elizebeth Sobeck had genius level intellect to begin with, and Aloy, being a clone of Elizabeth, inherited that genius level intellect. Three, the focus could have some form of knowledge transferring capability. That or it was extremely intuitive and idiot proof to use. Four, Aloy had the focus for years, and played with it extensively as a child. The same way a child who grew up with the internet works with modern technology far more intuitively than someone who grew up in the pre-internet era, so did Aloy kind of know what things were but understood when she sees it for herself. It could be one, or all, or a combination of these factors.

@@1Invinc is right the story of Sobeck as a child of 6 performing complex engineering even if pine tree and bird murdering shows the intellect in play. It is still a fantasy story so I wouldn't over think it too much, the best stories dance at the edges of what is possible and it is on the nose with playing the messianic card with Aloy being the saviour of the world as an immaculate conception chosen one.

@@jessmontgomery3454 - Also, I'm pretty sure the Focus is an interface for the Apollo system, since it's shape is the same as the symbol used to represent Apollo in the Project Zero Dawn briefing, shown here kzfaq.info/get/bejne/layDpsWLqJivnmg.html Since Apollo's function is to facilitate the restored human race in regaining modern technological levels in years or generations rather than millennia, it's not hard to figure that a lone user with a genetic predisposition for genius intellect would integrate the available knowledge at a miraculous pace. ...Assuming Apollo isn't supposed to facilitate this level of learning in whole populations.

@@alphalancer true but Apollo was ruined by everyone's favorite Elon Musk(Faro) wannabe so she has some limited knowledge in history and specific sciences but yes otherwise she picks up general technologies quite quickly but not total unbelievably. Also Sylens is clearly a very clever man also and he picks up a huge amount of knowledge from the scraps and wreckage of the world over the course of his life span and without all of Aloy's advantages and still clearly out classes her as the ending shows, so yes she is smart but not quite infinitely so.

Meh, getting Ray levels of plot convenience. I suppose it can be explained with magic... Er I mean technology. But regardless, even if there is an explanation, its poor righting to force the viewer to have to come up with it themselves. Especially in video games, since adding hints and detailed back story does not affect narrative flow in a video game. Games flow at the rate the player chooses to play. With solid limits on speed limitless time for investigation and exploration. A file laying on a desk explaining how information can be transferred telepathically or somthing could have been slipped in without changing the narrative flow. A option to straight up ask one of the AI wouldn't hurt either. I think this is just a minor plot hole. I say minor because it's not like it's impossible in this fictional universe... it's just not explained. it doesn't threaten the validity of the whole story. But it can be a nagging question that ruins emersion and believability somewhat.

I thought that Sylens' voice sounded a lot like General Herres'. Perhaps he is a clone of the general, or the offspring of a clone. He's a leader, cold, thinking, logical, everything a good military commander needs to be, and if General Herres was in on Zero Day AND Zero Dawn it stands to reason he is pretty intelligent and capable, like Sylens

Gaia would have no need and his history is too deep for him to have been made after the subordinates went rogue so I strongly doubt Apollo would've been able to do that on its own initiative. That said, you're triggering an interesting question as to whether he might be somehow connected to the entity that sent the mysterious signal. He wasn't aware of them beforehand else he wouldn't need to ask Hades about it, but considering that he's clearly meant to be the series foil to Aloy, the idea that he is as much "chasing a personal riddle into a crowd of mysteries" as Aloy is makes for a fascinating addition to their dynamic.

@@forgottenfamily Vast Silver's initials are "VS", after all.

You ignore where Sylens outright states he knows who his parents are. He was born in the Banuk

@@GuyAngon No where in the game it was stated that he was born as a Banuk. He told Aloy he had a natural birth. As far as the Banuk theory goes Orea says that he came to them as a young man and studied under them. Then he left and shortly after he discovered Hades. Sylens is probably a Far Zenith colonist but he doesn't know that. This is why he's so obsessed with knowledge and wants to know how to control AI like machines.

This comment is pretty cool regarding the stats, since it was probably posted before Elden Ring?

We are going to see him

@@adorablemarina It's possible but unlikely we don't see him until the third game.

Sylens, without a doubt, is the biggest of existential assholes. Why was he put here? Was it to be the villain? The anti-hero? The struggling man coming to terms with his life? Trying to find his place in the universe?

@@danksley He is in the 2nd game.

Especially when you consider the fact that this is the 1st time Guerrilla made an open world adventure. Before HZD, they were basically the Killzone/1st person shooter developer.

It kinda was slow, stretchy which made it look boring but combat was fun

Well the society is matriarchal. Same as how the patriarchy downplays women, theirs downplays men.

Are u could have lowered the difficulty in settings

@@JunaidKhan-ps8en I could have but MAMA DIDN'T RASE NO BITCH I THRIVE ON STRESS LMFAO

and in space, and he sent the signal that broke gaia

@@aracuscesar That actually made sense. He then went nuts, probably thought he was a god or something. When he woke up and witness the 'Sun-ring' it drove him even deeper. He thought "Fuck it, human beings aren't worth shit. Might as well reset the planet again".

Dukes is dead he was not that smart in tech. Just rich and hired smart people. The u known origin is the Odyssey that’s the only thing it could be. I don’t even think he purged Apollo. I don’t think Lis would give him that kind of access. He already doomed humanity.

Your comment did not age well.

Now that Forbidden West is out, we know what actually happened to Faro.

It's on the soundtrack as 'Aloy's Theme'

murder light thank you!!

There are a few songs that play, I think one is whitefall and the other is Homecoming.

"Homecoming"

To make us cry. I'm assuming non-plot-wise she found it on the ranch when she got there.

It means..the world is yours

Elisabet's body shouldn't even be there, let alone the globe or the ranch. There's pieces that could have been rebuilt by Gaia , but the suit should've been buried under the ground centuries ago. To some extent, I think it's supposed to represent Elisabet dying thinking it was all worth it... for the world. Dramatically, it's a lot of things. Gifting her "daughter" the world. A passing of the torch. A binding to the themes that drive Elisabet. A resolution to Aloy's quest. Honestly, I think they started from wanting Aloy to find something of Elisabet's and then decided a thematically appropriate gift was a globe and the thematic layers built on top of it naturally.

@@forgottenfamily you're right it's weird...only if it wasn't one of the most sophisticated armor created by her company,plus if there's common buildings ruins then why not her remains in her armor? She was elevated,out of reach. Even if she had MREs she would've suffocated eventually since the machines ate all life on the planet.no trees=no air.the awesome game by the way,I lose sense of time when I play it.

@@beastmodejelly8654 The remains we see are exclusively metal structures and other non-organic materials. Which is consistent with what we're told about the Faro plague - that they can consume any biomass. Biomass inside of otherwise non-organic structures is equally consumed. Even if we were to argue that the suit protected her (which is problematic as the machines would likely still want to eat her and they have knives to cut holes for the nano-machines to get into), the ranch should've been destroyed. I suppose one possibility is that Gaia rebuilt the ranch afterwards based upon her descriptions... though the globe is a weird touch if that's the case.

All the logs and audio logs you pick up, the more story you get of what happened

I felt it was hard to get through uncharted. I only played 4 though so maybe i wasn't invested.

She is an AI and a high advanced one, she receives the transmission, destroyed the fascility did all of her calculations and delivered commands and left that message for Aloy in just 3 milliseconds, that means her processor is a hell of one.

It was a servitor. If you go back into E9, right next to the entrance there's a decayed servitor, the one that was probably bringing Aloy there. One of the last things Gaia ordered E9 to do

@@Orangecataura Ohh i must have missed it. Thanks

@@paw3lo87 yeh, can also check operations log in E9, after Aloy (#LK1A1-4510) was born in April 4th 3021 a servitor was reactivated and ordered to take her outside and go back in, logged as "hatch unsealed" and "positioning succesful" at 10:18 and "hatch sealed" at 10:19

He did and didn't hades programming was/is corrupted so that's what went wrong and ted faro killed the better part of it

Lets not forget what what Sylens said in the end Hades Didn't corrupted on his own and neither did Ted Faros robots An Outside source corrupted them and sylens is trying to find out who

haven't fixed gaia yet

Aloy has a really huge job ahead of her: As the guardian of this world, and she is no different, she must not only find and finally destroy HADES, in parallel she must find all other subroutines and free them from corruption. And since HEPHAESTUS is responsible for mechanical engineering, she needs it to rebuild GAJA's system core and reboot GAJA. In addition, discover new areas, find new friends and enemies ... and whatever else may come .... Is Aloy really aware of how huge this task really is?

@@ladydalida6917 Probably. But she has most of an automated terraforming system and access to the Cauldrons for fabrication of components. With a few AIs like CYAN to examine so she can get to know how AI cores work (without damaging any of them, obviously), she might genuinely be able to do it.

Ok. First, you can believe what you want and beliving in a high plane of existance is not a bad thing. I personally do. If you are right, then nice. If you are wrong, then you'll be dead anyway, so it will not really be important anymore. It really shouldn't be something to be worried about. Also, if people really needs the excuse of a heaven to be nice with other people then we're screwed. I mean, even if there's nothing else, I will still try to not be an asshole to my fellow humans. It's pretty hard sometimes, and you fail more than once but I keep trying nonetheless. With that said, believe specifically in God or anything christianity says... Don't doubt. It's false. All of it. We know who, when, why and where that particular religion was forged, and we know for what reason it was forged. To keep a few old asshats on the Rome Imperial throne. And previous, it was a cult born from a missinterpretation of what most probably was the words of a violent revolutionary against that same imperial throne and it's domination over Israel. And that was born over another religion that was a cheap copy of part of a babylonian cult outcasted from Babylon. That image of that particular god (one of many of the babylonian mythos) was created to fit a purpose, and thus we can certificate that the entire religion is just a human tale, there's nothing supernatural or divine on it. It's just humaity trying to create a religion from diverse cults and ancient mythos with the purpose of controling and enlsaving an entire civilization. In other words, you can doubt all you want, what the bible says is totally false, so don't worry about that. You won't go to hell for having doubts of the unseen, unpredicitable existance and nature of the supernatural. I don't even see how that can be a bad thing. Also, you don't need to have faith on anything rather than yourself, and perhaps a very few group of people close to you.

@@Veridiano02 So you don't think there's such thing as a Heaven then?

I quite like how All-Mother is setup and how the name is basically explained. Like, Early humans came from the facility and probably referred it as a mother. This meaning was changed overtime through a game of telephone. Which is how we get the name "All-Mother". Probably because they couldn't understand how such a facility could birth humans. Thus, why Tersa thought Aloy was something Magnificent. It also kinda explains how most religious views are formed. By not understanding something, people would call it a God or God causing something. Like Zeus or our beginning (although we do know how humanity began, the problem now is figuring out how exactly all life started). I love how well crafted and complex this game is. There are so many complex topics in the story itself, even basic philosophy.

So

Technically yes. However in this context, she is the daughter of the previous. Aren't we all half clones? At the end of the day?

We enter the domain of what makes you, you. If you are a string of DNA , and will have the same character , logic, feelings, morals, fears, everything that makes you the human named "xxxx", or your life will make you who you are. Same thing as sons and daughters of criminals , they may become criminals as well, or go for cops, or hate both sides and try to make their path something else entirely. There are infinite variables, we learn ally story because she succeeded, what if she hated the tribe and not give a shit? She was raised to give a shit, just like Elisabeth was. Or you are right, and she just acted on her DNA, assassin creed style. The choice is left to the player on what to believe.

They would have had sperm and a egg or DNA code of a man and a woman to create Aloy. Daughter or reincarnation she isn’t Elisabet yet she had the qualities of her. she is Elisabet and Elisabet is also her mother all in one. Gaia created her so technically she has a claim too. I can’t wait till the forbidden west. I wanted to go there the first game. Now I’m all for it. PS5 version too. Ooweee

@@mustafashaqur9694 it is indicated cradle facilities have zygotes, essentially fertilized egg cells. Unlike with our normal reproductive process, these zygotes seem to be devoid of DNA, which is injected into them, when the cradle facility receives a birthing order. The pods then act as wombs. Thus all creatures "born" in these facilities are clones. The ones born outside these facilities did so following the biologically appropriate reproductive process for that species. Must have been terrifying and terribly dangerous for the first generation of humans to walk out of a cradle facility: no knowledge or medical servitors, only urges. Still, it worked in the Blue Lagoon and evidently these humans worked it out, too. ;-)

@@mustafashaqur9694 is an exact copy offspring or just that, a copy, though?

Because in biology it's rare to have an exact 100 % copy/clone especially for something as complicated human beings.

DNA isn't 100% from different parts of the _same_ person. It's called mutation, it happens pretty much every time a cell copies DNA and undergoes mitosis, 99.99% are entirely inert and do _nothing._ It's the 0.01% that are either good or bad that leads to overt changes. That 99.74 is about what you'd expect in a clone. Or a twin.

Because Ted Faro sucks

@@fidgetgamer5556 I'd go further Ted Faro is a one man planetary genocide! He couldn't even let the half dozen scienists who survived his robot extinction army survive he is actually personally responsible for the death of all life on earth... like Humanmon gotta kill them all. Oh and the icing on the cake is he then he deleted Apollo as well... so when people were finally restored by Gaia they were dumb as bricks and barely better than savages. If society is ever restored in this universe Faro would be held up as the dictionary definition of hubris. Tbh i hope he's some how still alive so Aloy can kick him square in the balls. Joking aside I'm honestly not sure what punishment you could meet out upon him that measures against that crime?

@@jessmontgomery3454 Daily waterboarding in a cave would be satisfactory I think. To experience the slow deprivation of oxygen that he directly caused, combined with seeing nothing but a dark, grey, dull and the closest thing to a dead environment as you can find to simulate what the last humans would see. Then again, since he's a ruthless businessman you could probably make him cry just by bringing him into this world and putting him into a tribe. Let's see how happy he is without any way of making money because he doesn't understand how the world works anymore

fuck ted faro

Everyone hates Ted Faro, but in reality he made just one mistake, that catastrophically spiralled out of control. When he deleted APOLLO and killed the remaining Alpha's he was deep in psychosis, grief and guilt for what he had caused. yes he was responsible for the death of the planet, but crucially, unlike Hitler or Stalin, he never intended to do it. remember he buried the hatchet with Elizabet as soon as he realised his error and bankrolled the entire zero dawn project as penance. Ted is just a tragic figure as anyone else in the metal world

Sorban Aloy is Elisabet’s genetic clone, but we say it’s her mother because it’s the closest she has to a mother

@@veiga4051 Yeah...

A robot, you can read it in the datapoints in Eluthia. It was awakened just to take baby Aloy and put her outside the facility. You can scan it's body, it's called a multiservitor.

I gotta admit the facial animations are kind of less refined here. Therefore the differences are very standing out in Frozen Wilds

@@kevinmulia6503 frozen wilds had better facial expressions

@@avikde9631 yes i noticed in the Frozen Wilds DLC it was fixed up better.

@@kevinmulia6503 like in survive prevail

Only reason she let him live is to use his funding of Zero Dawn...She didn't know he had a backdoor to her project....

@@fredtott4684 He had?

@@Isabelle-hv6ny yes, he was the one who destroyed Apollo and killed a lot of people working on this project.

Ummmm this is a clone dude

@@VideoGameSophistry True, but this does bring up another question...WHY WOULD SHE ONLY HAVE 97/98 percent resemblance to her mother. She's a clone. And she was cloned by a super intelligent AI that has her mother's DNA on record.

@@Butmunch666 I think its explained during the main quests. Her Alpha Registry was corrupted for some reason.

@@Butmunch666 Cloning tech might not be perfect. It might be necessary to use donor sperm and/or eggs from another individual, then edit it with the cloning subject's DNA. Aloy might be made of one of Elizabeth's actual eggs and some dude's gene-edited swimmers.

@@danksley So?

Nope.

This is the story of a girl's search for her matriarchal lineage and discovering a massively important heritage to claim. It seems they took a very common story framework for young boys and intentionally gender flipped it.

No :(