HorizonXI Level Sync System and More!

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HorizonXI

HorizonXI

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In this video we outline the launch level sync system for HorizonXI. This video explains how our system works, its key components, and some other leveling related items! We launch on December 17, 2022.
0:00 Intro
0:27 Level Sync Overview
4:16 Signet Changes
6:28 EXP Rings Rework
9:01 End
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• Website: www.horizonxi.com/
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Music credit goes to SpaceRoast! Please check out his channel at / spaceroastmusic

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@tsunamii2298
@tsunamii2298 Жыл бұрын
Nice Dunes and qufim won't be over packed haha
@LeTmEsLiDe7537
@LeTmEsLiDe7537 Жыл бұрын
Amazing job guys!! I can’t wait to party in places I never have before!!!! Very smart changes!
@DreySpynthasalar
@DreySpynthasalar Жыл бұрын
These all seem like very well thought out and evolved changes. I do, however, think that the level sync ranges are better on paper than it will be in practice.
@gregwilhide9685
@gregwilhide9685 Жыл бұрын
was eden your first private server? gross.
@DreySpynthasalar
@DreySpynthasalar Жыл бұрын
@@gregwilhide9685 Nope, i've been around long enough to see Nasomi lose hundreds of daily players after trying unrealistic stunts like this. That garbage ideal was not even close to how retail was pre-sync era. The actual classic struggle was finding unoccupied camps with enough mobs to pull.
@gregwilhide9685
@gregwilhide9685 Жыл бұрын
atleast nasomi partys spread out, didnt expect a meta playstyle in normal exp partys, and people were happy with what they got. post eden private servers chagned the game.... we all want brd/cor, we can kick anyone do to easily being able to rep someone and wait for a job that we want, partys unsync to relocate to avoid danger taking the working together out of it and many other Post eden style of classic ffxi has changed greatly. Nasomi has many faults but i think its playstyle had more traditonal elements then many Modern "era" private servers. Eden has forced us into a age of QoL 2019 and earlier was a better time to expierence ffxi classic. Oh and jeuno actually had a pop.
@michaelpuskar8805
@michaelpuskar8805 Жыл бұрын
The system and the other changes sound great!
@markdunn756
@markdunn756 Жыл бұрын
I'm with you. I see a lot of complaints on the penalty system but I think it's a very happy compromise... but does anyone remember the good old days before level sync? Remember when it was 2-3 levels... any more and you need to get out of my party because ALL of us are getting penalized? The penalty only applies to the single character that's out of range - I like that.
@Joe-yh7eb
@Joe-yh7eb Жыл бұрын
@@markdunn756 very true, guess a lot of people don’t remember those times.
@restinpeacedarrell
@restinpeacedarrell Жыл бұрын
Sounds great. Can’t wait
@scotthammond5461
@scotthammond5461 Жыл бұрын
Was big skeptic. Think y'all are new home now though. Everywhere else is dead and this shows dedication.
@henric1991
@henric1991 Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to this :D
@Akabane101
@Akabane101 Жыл бұрын
This is going to be amazing. I can't wait to play this with my friends!
@nibu8743
@nibu8743 Жыл бұрын
Sounds good 👍 thanks for the info
@benjaminstrawsine8022
@benjaminstrawsine8022 Жыл бұрын
This is great
@CreativityBM21
@CreativityBM21 Жыл бұрын
Stick to your guns, level sync limitations is not popular with the private server community. Don’t let them change your mind. I think This change is needed.
@reecesinacori2498
@reecesinacori2498 Жыл бұрын
I agree wholeheartedly.
@thaddeuslyons3367
@thaddeuslyons3367 Жыл бұрын
would be nice if the signet/conquest bonuses were applied at all levels, not just 50+
@broogul7335
@broogul7335 Жыл бұрын
the only thing I would say is bring the Chariot use time to 3 hours, if I pop it and my party breaks, bad luck finding a new one, my charge is basically dead
@broogul7335
@broogul7335 Жыл бұрын
at least then if it takes me an hour to find a new party, I have a chance to get the xp
@Riposte8
@Riposte8 Жыл бұрын
Bonus EXP for partying in regions out of your nation's control seems like a mistake. It desync players of different nations and will make them fight over where to party or not want to party together. A better idea would be to tie the bonus to participating in Conquest (EF, trade in items, Garrison ?, helping new players on story mission battles ?, Eco Warrior ?, Ballista ?, new content like killing special tough NMs ?). You can have the bonus be automatic in the situations you mentioned. "In / Out of your nation's control" gear has always been cumbersome, tying the bonus to this (participate in Conquest event) would make everyone's life more easy and consider this gear.
@Joe-yh7eb
@Joe-yh7eb Жыл бұрын
For the most part, I think most players won’t care as long it’s a good party and good camp location.
@slimebuck
@slimebuck Жыл бұрын
Considering you are not using GEAR sync and players will need many sets of gear to play with sync parties, will there be any free wardrobes or anything? Part of non gear sync I dis like the most is lack of inventory space due to having so many sets
@horizonffxi
@horizonffxi Жыл бұрын
We will have inventory expansion options but we will not be revealing how they are obtained - players will need to discover that.
@slimebuck
@slimebuck Жыл бұрын
@@horizonffxi Cool cool ty for the answer!
@nekronik
@nekronik Жыл бұрын
Might sound like an odd question but is this able to be played on a Chromebook?
@angelgodric
@angelgodric Жыл бұрын
Unable to log in today will see if it works when the game lunch
@chongabong4580
@chongabong4580 Жыл бұрын
Will we be able to hold 1 of each of the EXP Bands?
@horizonffxi
@horizonffxi Жыл бұрын
No, only one at a time per conquest week.
@raymondfindlay8070
@raymondfindlay8070 Жыл бұрын
Everyone keeps saying some classes won't get invites as if it is the only possible outcome. 1. This is era+ And jobs are going to be more useful and more variable. The old status quo you're used to does not apply unless you make it apply. 2. This will promote server health as job diversity in parties is a positive thing, as much as people are talking like it isn't. People aren't on this server to go back to Sam only or ranger only, and if you are, you are what's wrong with older servers. 3. Invite that Era+ monk whose within 3 levels rather than adding the third Sam to your party whose 25 levels above. If you don't understand why this is a good thing, you are part of the problem. The caveat here is server population, but I've seen more people quit over wanting to play a class that no one will invite than anything else. If you are incapable at playing the game in a way outside of the unintelligent toxic era status quo, that's on you. A large majority of people (including me) want to and will play with ALL classes. If you want the exact same XP per hour with the exact same party make ups because that's how you feel safe, go back to where you were playing and keep ruining that server then complain no one plays. /EndRant
@reecesinacori2498
@reecesinacori2498 Жыл бұрын
Nailed it.
@Frankthetank302
@Frankthetank302 Жыл бұрын
Is gear gonna level sync correctly? 👀 this was a big issue with me and these types of servers like wings
@horizonffxi
@horizonffxi Жыл бұрын
We are not using gear sync meaning you will need to wear appropriate level gear under level sync.
@markmessi9020
@markmessi9020 Жыл бұрын
@@horizonffxi Yikes no gear sync? 😬
@horizonffxi
@horizonffxi Жыл бұрын
@@markmessi9020 no gear sync for economy reasons - it helps keep lower level equipment relevant and desirable for purchase and production
@slimebuck
@slimebuck Жыл бұрын
@@horizonffxi considering players will need much more inventory space to hold lvl sync gear, is there going to be anything to help with that? Some other servers provide some free wardrobe space, or have easy quests to unlock wardrobe space
@HazMac3
@HazMac3 Жыл бұрын
Sync penalty seems rather harsh. Goes from nothing to huge in just a few lvls. I'd rather it was more gradual or just set it to 50% after 10 levels right away.
@Joe-yh7eb
@Joe-yh7eb Жыл бұрын
There’s that 10 level buffer. I think it’s about right. Hated when a someone leveled and killed party exp with just one level.
@EntreriSeraph
@EntreriSeraph Жыл бұрын
I think theory this is great, a good compromise, and I get it. I think in practice it's going to fail. I've played since 2005 on retail, and a few private servers. Small populations need MORE flexibility not less. I've used a higher level job for capped content, to fill out a missing job in our exp party, or to help a friend/noob do something almost every time I play. You will need thousands of players for this to work. I will not EXP pt at a penalty, and so I will lose flexibility in my groups and from my team members. I hope i'm wrong!
@scizorunleashed
@scizorunleashed Жыл бұрын
The penalty seems rather harsh, imagine I play from day 1 launch and my friend isn't able to join me until 5 days later, in that time frame I'm likely to be substantially higher then them. Where is the incentive for me to join them and party with them? Switching jobs to a lower level one wouldn't be a solution if I'm focusing on a main job. Seems counter intuitive
@lee1130fromtwitter
@lee1130fromtwitter Жыл бұрын
Lvl sync doesn't work until lvl 10 usually
@azriell783
@azriell783 Жыл бұрын
Depending on population, 50% exp penalty is way too harsh and/or 10 level limit is way too low. Doing the same 3~5 camps to 75 is not great, but players on private servers don't always have the option to go elsewhere due to the limited number of people LFP. Furthermore, some jobs simply don't get invites and are forced to resort to burning. BLMs don't live in Qufim because it's good exp, they do it because nobody wants to rest mp in a normal exp party. Some of the exp penalty will be offset by the very good changes to EXP bands and signet bonuses, but I honestly feel like post-50 exp boosts to signet would have been enough to encourage players to exp at higher levels instead of syncing down (if the option to not sync low presents itself). Maybe the effect could have capped slightly stronger, especially if one of the goals of these changes is to get people to merit in merit parties instead of syncing way down for merits. Either way, it's always better to incentive instead of punish. On a related note, earning 7.5k (abysmal exp party rate) an hour instead of 15k an hour (good exp party rate) to play with friends is not really a great choice to ask people to make. Similarly, I agree that people probably shouldn't exp in level capped zones (I assume it's exploitative if left unchecked; I've never had an exp party in Promyvion or Riverne but I'm aware that this is a thing), but at the same time is it really too much to ask for a little exp while running people through CoP missions? Nerfing exp gains in these zones by 50% or 75% seems more reasonable to me than a full 100% nerf. You don't need to remove exp from zone, you just to make it so people earn far less than what they would earn exping in other areas.
@adricteo
@adricteo Жыл бұрын
The level sync and capped area penalty turns me off. Better rethink again. U are assuming there’s gonna be a lot of player joining this server. What if it’s not?
@horizonffxi
@horizonffxi Жыл бұрын
As stated in the video we will monitor feedback and adjust if needed.
@adricteo
@adricteo Жыл бұрын
You should think through it before presenting. This is basic stuff and you only adjust it after feedback
@adricteo
@adricteo Жыл бұрын
It may not work well with low population.
@crisvok
@crisvok Жыл бұрын
Gotta say level sync system penalty is a turn off Some jobs just dont get parties at certain levels For example monk in bird parties So they will be penalized to shit if they join a sync lv 30 party I know im in the minority but i love the occasional valkrum party. Its cool to hang out with new players and even mentor them. This penalize complete kills the idea of high level players partying with new players
@Stammer6
@Stammer6 Жыл бұрын
I don't mind the occasional Valkurm party either. But if you look at all the other servers like EdenXI, that's pretty much all you ever see. You practically never escape the Dunes, because it's not efficient to do so.
@horizonffxi
@horizonffxi Жыл бұрын
Please don't forget that we are making adjustments to jobs to bring them more in line with the traditionally stronger jobs in era. The meta on Horizon may not reflect what you have experienced on other servers.
@CreativityBM21
@CreativityBM21 Жыл бұрын
@@Stammer6 a lot of people choose to be oblivious to that. No matter the time of day, you can log into Eden and guarantee the dunes is always full of people. I’ve been a part of linkshells who do nightly dune parties no matter the range. I think the level sync penalty will fix that issue
@dragumkirisute1998
@dragumkirisute1998 Жыл бұрын
Dunes leveling is miserable tho.. lol Getting out of there as fast as possible is a good thing. Yeah it gets easier if you have a Bard with Valor Minuet and Sword Madrigal (or whatever the accuracy song is) but until then... it's miserable lol
@Joe-yh7eb
@Joe-yh7eb Жыл бұрын
I’ll miss taking advantage of the unlimited level sync. Back in the day, Used a three man party with two pups syncing down to a puller for easy exp, when we already capped our skills. I think it’s good overall to avoid over crowding.
@slimebuck
@slimebuck Жыл бұрын
I personally think the exp penalties are too much and going to make a lot of potential players choose not to play on this server. I personally am looking for a server that boosts exp gained (I just dont have the time any more to farm lvls, I played retail, and a couple private servers and now I am looking more to enjoy end game content I never experienced than the leveling process which I have done multiple times already) and the penalties to exp when sync'ed makes me not want to play here. I play usually the jobs that rarely ever get invited to parties so the main way I level those is lvl sync parties and this makes me feel like it will be a constant hassle and head ache to make parties as high level players will refuse to help out due to exp penalties.
@slimebuck
@slimebuck Жыл бұрын
@justin blow yah. I am not hating on the system at all and do not want them to change it to suite me, I hope the people who it is aimed for enjoy it though! I had a high level summoner with hundreds of hours put into it that I can no longer access on some random private server and it makes me apprehensive of putting that kind of time again into another character.
@ThePresentation010
@ThePresentation010 Жыл бұрын
It's necessary. So zones won't be so full, people of the appropriate, actual level can't go there.
@theremix54
@theremix54 Жыл бұрын
I understand where you are coming from, but in your case, just playing retail might be the best choice due to trusts.
@slimebuck
@slimebuck Жыл бұрын
i think it is a mistake to give no exp to high level playerrs in area wide sync'ed areas. It should be heavily penalized yes, but no exp at all will make people who are high level not want to help players in those areas. Even if they get %10 exp, it is still something and makes it better for people helping other people out
@ThePresentation010
@ThePresentation010 Жыл бұрын
F that. Because then noobs can't level in noob areas because high levels are synced there. That's one of the reasons the game died. Penalties are OK. To getm out of there.
@spectreman2532
@spectreman2532 Жыл бұрын
All this promotes those statics that only play efficiently, with the same people and the same amount of time. Random people will have wasted bands running out of time because they have bad parties, bad camps and, on top of that, exp penalties due to level sync limitation. Decisions always being made thinking of elitist players that are less than 10% of the player base. This will broaden the gap between normal and hardcore players and create a lack of ppl to join EGLS in the future.
@brickdiggins6765
@brickdiggins6765 Жыл бұрын
uhhhh no thanks, the whole point of lv sync was so you can play even with new players. But if Im gonna get less xp for the same work then I'm out. And then were right back to excluding ppl in a party because they are too low or too high in lvl. I like a lot of the changes I've seen for Horizon but this one, imo, is a mistake.
@sarahmargherita8695
@sarahmargherita8695 Жыл бұрын
This level sync penalty... It's a no from me, dawg.
@broogul7335
@broogul7335 Жыл бұрын
dunes leveling to 75 is your thing I guess
@durftangster6994
@durftangster6994 Жыл бұрын
Yeah i need to stick with unlimited sync so i can xbow spam in attowah all day and turn my brain off, i dont actually want to play the game tbh.
@alchemxstxavier5225
@alchemxstxavier5225 Жыл бұрын
@@durftangster6994then just play a auto play mmo mobile game. I recommend Ragnarok Origin.
@scotam02
@scotam02 Жыл бұрын
Please, please, please!!! Don't do the lvl sync penalty!! This is a huuuge punishment to the leaders that make parties and spend the time searching for the jobs they want in the party and putting things together.....this gives a new reason for higher lvl expers to decline a party invite, which already happens with replies from players stating "I don't have gear for that level".....well now with the introduction of this system, there will be a new reply of "I don't want sync penalty".....normally when a party leader feels like hard-core exping, they search for the jobs they want and will ask players even 50 levels above them in order to get the right setup they want.....now when a party leader wants to exp and they do a search, they will be purposely only searching within 10 lvls in order to avoid the "i don't want a sync penalty" response....and if that party leader searches and only finds 20 THFs, 20 BLMs, 20 PUPs, that are seeking party within 10 levels....well that is going to be a be a nightmare for anyone that has ever had to make an exp party....the lvl cap zone penalty is excellent and the ideas with the exp bonuses are as well.....but please, please 🙏 do not make these exp penalties!!!
@gregwilhide9685
@gregwilhide9685 Жыл бұрын
if they dont follow through with this or get rid of in a few months after release im gonna be fucking pissed. Lots of people still think that everyone wants level sync but ask anyone whos first private server wasnt Eden.
@horizonffxi
@horizonffxi Жыл бұрын
We’ve already said this is the system we will use at launch and we will re-evaluate if any changes are necessary 30-60 days after launch.
@gregwilhide9685
@gregwilhide9685 Жыл бұрын
@@horizonffxi Can you direct to me any other private server that does NOT have full on level sync currently? Nasomi was truly the last private server that felt like classic ffxi and thats sad.
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