It is one of the dilemmas in human society as far as death penalty is concerned. If you were the immediate family members of the prisoners to be executed, what would you feel ? On the other hand, if you were the immediate family members of the victims, you would very much feel differently.

Pros: > The possibility of death sentence can passively deter crime. > Gives some closure to the victims family. > Gives a reason for angry crowds to not be vigilantes and kill a suspected criminal on the spot; allowing the accused to at least defend themself in court. > Last resort, if somehow the criminal is simply too violent nd cannot be rehabilitated or let back into society, yet is sane and cannot be locked in a mental institution. Cons: > Traumatises the judge and doctor

Saya pernah lawat muzium penjara di Melaka dan dapat lihat bilik gantung dia dari luar. Sama ada satu tempat pintu lantai boleh dibuka dan ada bilik di bawah di mana badan akan jatuh dan tergantung, namun satu orang sahajalah boleh digantung di situ. Memang suasana dia meremang lah. Saya rasa patut diajar semua perkara ini kepada rakyat dan dijadikan pengetahuan am, kerana dah kata nak jadikan sebagai pencegah jenayah, kasi lah tahu keadaannya. Di Amerika, Eropah dan sebagainya mereka buat dokumentari tentsng penjara dan tempat hukum bunuh (yang masih jalanlan hukim bunuh lah). Perkara itu jadi pengetahuan umum bagi rakyat mereka.

Obviously he was traumatised! Easy for us to say. Not everyone can witness this.

horrific? possibly more merciful than what they did to their victim.

The executed hung there for half an hour. The retired judge was just recounting the event. He wasn't sensationalizing it which is what KiniTV is doing.

I can't imagine how traumatic it would be for the executioner to pull the lever

Everybody talks about whether it deters, I don't know if it deters or not, but I know one thing. People who are hanged never re-offend. Since the UK abolished the death penalty in 1965, 1000s of lifers have gone on to kill again after being released on parole, 30 between 2001 and 2011 alone. Right now one of the murderers of Lee Rigby is costing the taxpayer 45,000 pounds a year to keep locked up and has spent that time radicalising other inmates and attacking and trying to kill prison warders. There is no sane rational reason for keeping dangerous murderers alive, and I can guarantee that however many innocent people have been executed due to a failure of the justice system, this figure will be dwarfed by the amount of people murdered by paroled murderers, at least three times a year if the period between 2001-2011 is taken as a general average. And those are just murders, there are many more instances of rapes, violent assaults and other crimes as well that could have been avoided if they had been given a measured drop and a sudden stop like they ought to have been given.

All I’ve learnt from this is live a normal life, nvr commit a crime and if you’re troubled, seek medical help ASAP.

Those who are against death penalty certainly live in safe countries with no homicides. My country has no death penalty and we have 70000 innocent people killed every year because of that.

Common pratice was to leave them hanging for 15-30 minutes. During the days of public executions it was often longer. After the electric chair inmates were left for hours to cool down.

It is very sad that a moment of folly resulted in the untimely death of tje policeman and the death of 2 youths. I just hope their souls found peace🙏✨

If people knew what happens during every type of execution maybe they would hesitate before murdering someone.

I agree that a judge should witness a hanging so that they are aware the gravity of their judgement

Ex judge should also shared information on the corrupted judges (unless he already acceptable it as a norm) .

He obviously doesn't understand the mechanics of Hanging and the different wait times around the world. Some leave them for an hour and then bring them down. The sentence is "Hanged by the Neck Until Dead" No mention of how long ………...

This kind of education should be exposed to all during highschool..the only way to make people behave..

Now let's look from the victim perspective.

All you sympathisers, put your feelings on the real victims. NO EXECUTION causes enough suffering for perps.

For me capital punishment shouldn't be abolished as its the most effective way to scare off people who commit crime.

x tahu la nak menangkan belah mana. bila nak sokong hukuman bunuh ni, org kata aku x berperikemanusiaan. kalau x sokong hukum bunuh, cuba bayangkan perasaan ahli keluarga mangsa yg dibunuh. jenayah yg dilakukan dgn sengaja patut diberi hukuman setimpal. bukan utk balas dendam, tp utk pengajaran kpd yg lain.

My dad was also a magistrate in South Africa and had to attend hangings in the same manner.

kalau hakim cakap " hukuman gantung smpai mati" mmg akan tergantung smpai betul2 mati

I found that people that do not support death penalty, lack sympathy for criminal's victims. Instead, these people see the criminal as the victim. If you have sympathy for the criminal's families. Why you do not have sympathy for the victim's families ? These people, who oppose death penalty, are just hypocrites. The research in USA about death penalty is flaw. If you look at the FBI files documentaries, you will heard these words very frequently - "The murder suspect is an ex-convict, who have histories of violent". If these violent criminals are given the death penalty instead of parole. The number of murder victims would have reduce significantly in USA. Many innocent people do not have to die. Death penalty is the solution. Don't see death penalty as evil when you enjoy the benefits of death penalty. Without death penalty, there will be more murder cases in society if there are more murderers roaming the street.

In Singapore the death penalty is also conducted by hanging, and from what I was told by a prison officer the gallows chamber is not located in the same block as the death row section. But the gallows chamber is definitely located somewhere in Changi Prison.

They were executed not killed...the Police officer was killed...did he have a name and rank and family ? People forget the victims when the death sentence occurs and Martyr the condemned....

The last point... That struck me a bit. Really... Execution is to deterent people from committing crime. If they hide this thing, than what's the point. Either stop it or make it public

Anything from the victim's family perspective? The agony and suffering of the victim before he died because of the two young criminals? The trauma of the victim's wife and children of having to learn that there love one life has been cut short!!

Death Penalty should be there. Imagine what would the victims would have felt during those last moments, these animals have feel it too themselves. Its pointless to have a taxpayers funding murderers for life.

Think of the victim’s family………not how the criminals were hung ………they deserve no mercy

The detail of the execution is not the deterrent. It is the end result that is the deterrent. Knowing that committing murder will result in the ending of your own life is the deterrent, not how it is done.

It's ironic that corruption is not subjected to capital punishment since it's impact so devastated that it left a community or in fact a nation dragged with so much issues that it bred into so many criminals activity due to hardships faced by the community. Imagine everyone had a fair share of living that no one is living under the porverty.

We're human being,we are not perfect but please respect to one another and the law.If you not break the rules you're saved.🙏

Saudi arabia had public beheading with a sword (not sure About now), I saw the execution of someone went into a house to steal, but was surprised by a mother, killed her, raped her dead body, then burned the house, I don't have pity on him whatsoever and they even hung his body after beheading to shame him, they call the hanging crucifixion in arabic. Long story short, I totally endorse death penalty and I think it should be public.

Coming from a past Judge overseeing justice, this is especially powerful ! Oh Yes ....Thanks for mentioning the trauma of the Policeman as he was being murdered, and that of his friends & family for the rest of their lives.

So? Traditionally they were left hanging for one hour in the UK during the last century.

There are two sides of a coin. One side belongs to the criminal and the other side the victim. The execution of the caught criminals can be seen and usually very fast, without suffering lengthy pain. However, the execution of the victim especially those done covertly (different from those shooting in the public where death occurs almost immediately), we cannot witness the fear, the tortured pain and whatever feeling that I can't find the right words to describe. We can only look at the pictures of the victims if published in newspaper but usually pixelated and have to visualize and imagine how much the victims suffered before they died. Imagine how fearful Kevin Morais was. Was he begging to the killers, was he crying and in deep pain? We only knew he was cemented in an oil drum. Was he beaten up and tortured and put in the drum while still alive? What about Altantuya. Was she begging to be spared her and the unborn in her stomach? Was she crying frantically and in deep fear and pain? We knew she must be very frightening but we can't see it and we cannot really feel it the way the victims felt. But we knew it was very frightening to be in Kevin's and Altantuya's position. Can you imagine if you or your loved one such as your wife or husband or your children is/are the victim(s). Justice must PREVAIL. We must have death penalty to prevent more killing as some criminals are not remorseful. The benefits of death penalty outweigh the cons.

Watched a video on how Sadam Hussein was taken down in that manner....yes, his death was recorded and shared to public...

Most executions even if botched are usually less agonizing and horrific than the innocent individuals mode of death chosen by those being executed for murder............. remember these murderers have right of legal process, appeals and all................. the victims of these murderers did not!

I see you'll have to lived with this for the rest of your life sir. .so sad

People get hanged for distributing weed too. But like some parts in usa, they dont get death penalty for weed distribution. 🤔

If you don’t want to be executed don’t murder people

He mentioned that he was surprised to see that the condemned person's were hanging for 30 minutes. As I understand it in Britain condemned person's were hanging for an hour before they were taken down and sent to the morgue.

No rich man on dead row.....

Although the information may not been made available to the public, most people would have common sense and a fair grasp on the idea of what the process may look like.

Death sentence is a must. If death sentence is horrific, then how about those who were murdered by the killer? If death sentence is gone I assure more crime and murder is going to happen.

Do the crime accept the consequense

well doesnt seem cruel,they was criminal doing the worst thing..and maybe i've been seen even worst video kot 😑

They'll never commit any more offences ever again!!!!

society has a duty to protect her own people.Justice is 3 things : to punish, to set an exemple to society, to bring repearation.

Those who are involved in the death of the death row prisoners can only find some excuses or reasons such that they can feel they have done nothing wrong. It's only human

So..in some point you want people to supports abolishing death sentence? It should remain..just dont break the laws that endup death by hanging.

Those victims of those hunged were also innocent.

Bodies have ALWAYS been left to hang for an hour……don’t talk nonsense!

So what I wish it was still being done in my country.Murder is now like a misdemeanor

Death by hanging is a legally sanctioned killing of the convicted by the breaking of his/her neck (a.k.a. hangman fracture). Anything less than that is death by torture, especially '1-hour hanging'. Discussing and education that 1 hour process in a jovial mood is nothing to be proud of????

This man is being very honest. He’s not embellishing the story. He’s simply telling the story of the executions he witnessed as a judge. The way I see it is simple. Think of the murdered policeman’s family. The policeman’s family has to suffer the pain and loss of losing a loved one to murder for the rest of their lives. The criminals deserve to pay for such a crime with their life.

He seemed to forget one thing, the two brothers were murderers, and got the death penalty. It was lawfully carried out. Nobody seems to remember the victims whose lives were taken from them.

How saddening. Indeed, law is law. Our very action has consequences.

Lots of contries without the death penalties have low rates of murder and violence Fact

Death Penalty is not in accordance with the Rule of Law....and illogical because you should never kill for killing.

If you shoot someone breaking into your house, that's an instant death penalty. If you have a problem with the death penalty, let me live and I will let you live.

The system used was the one used by the British. Long drop, halter not noose, table of drops to ensure instant unconsciousness and left hanging for 30 minutes. The British long drop system was about as instant as a guillotine and a lot less messy. Death is caused by the severing of the spinal chord. Unconsciousness is always instant.

Public must know what gov is doing behind our knowledge

Retired Appellate Court judge Mah Weng Kwai recalled his experience during his early days as a Magistrate, where he witnessed two brothers, who were convicted of murdering a police officer in Jalan Chow Kit, in 1983, were HANGED. He revealed this at a forum on the abolishment of capital punishment last night. The brothers were handcuffed and had white hoods covering their faces, as prison officers escorted them to the execution room at the Pudu prison. The noose was then placed around the brothers' necks, before the executioner pulled a lever, which caused the platform below the convicts' legs to open up, causing in them to be HANGED from their necks. "It was the loudest 'bang' I heard in my life. But despite the loud bang, it was total silence from them (the brothers)," Mah recalled the execution. The brothers' bodies, however, were not removed immediately, Mah said, adding that they were left hanging for about half an hour, before a doctor certified that they were medically dead. FIFY. People are "hanged" not "hung".

I call for an “eye for an eye” law. If you rape someone to death, guess what- thats your punishment. Should be televised in my opinion but that part is arguable

Death penalty should only be for premeditated murderers.

That is why public hangings were done in the old times, everyone watched and it was definitely a deterrent. Maybe time to start doing that again then those heinous crimes that get the death penalty would be reduced.

The double moral of always is that the damn corrupt politicians, police officers etc.. they do way more harm to humanity than this poor two boys…

The death penalty has been an effective deterrence for capital offences like drug trafficking, murder, kidnapping and fire arms. Detention without the trial has also been successful in suppressing gangsterism, secret society, human trafficking, loansharks and gang rape. Singapore and Malaysia, may Allah swt bless both countries Ameen .

Horrific details of death penalty ?? Wait till you see how every victim died in the hand of convicted murderer , then you will understand what ''horrible'' means. Compare to the suffering of murdered victim and his family, it is nothing, Judge!

Death penalty should be abolish in civilized world, young Indian boys were hanged to death in Singapore for drug offences while the big drug cartel are spared who always has connection.

Why was the body left hanging for half an hour???

I like the death penalty but my only concern is how much is spent and the risk of someone being wrongfully executed. Other than that, it seems moral and just.

It doesn't matter how long a dead corpse hangs.

Death penalty must remain

I have no issues seeing criminals die painfully.

Everybody dies,....if you take other people life be prepare to be sentence with your life at stake,thats the law.

How did they end up 'there' in the FIRST Place ... huh ? No Crime, No Drama ~_~ He doesn't say anytg about the Policeman who was killed in the line of duty - He's a Fool, and just another reason society is getting WORSE because of such Sympathy -_-

Dear Sir, death penalty never going to deter a crimes .. but the same time emotions of the victims and their families are involved. Given a life sentences is as equals to death sentences too.. Many prisoners are well educated and from a good families surrounding,they do crimes out of emotions a split second after that they regains. Any way it’s rules of law death sentence are given to the convicted which they been done a crime which not going against it ,it’s merely only views and opinions. Recently came the news to demolished the death sentences by the minister in the prime minister department. Hope there will be more awareness programs on crimes and what the coincidences the crimes brings and their futures. Today many young youths into crimes and sad to said all are very much under aged children. We as the society also must play the parts for the awareness.

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Good that this judge tell this horror story so people will think twice before involved in potentially murdered incidents.

The bang would be the last thing those guys heard as well. Talk about going out with a Bang!

As much as we dont like it ,death sentence is still relevant to deter anyone from doing serious crimes and to save the life of innocents people

"Retired Appellate Court judge Mah Weng Kwai recalled his experience during his early days as a Magistrate, where he witnessed two brothers, who were convicted of murdering a police officer in Jalan Chow Kit, in 1983, were hung." Use hanged when referring to a person being suspended by a rope around the neck until dead.

What does it mean by details hid from the public? Did someone ask and they avoid answering or censored the details? Or no one really asked and so they felt that it was unnecessary to inform the public on the details? If not, people will just bring it up and whine about it or something

6:00 “ Was it ever known to the public or press, nothing”. Unlike execution in the US which are media events to rival the Super Bowl.

Death penalty should be abolished because there is always a story behind any killing. You may be saying that death penalty is doing just to the victim but there must be reasons why people resort to killing as a reaction, may be victim was provocating or doing other things that trigger anger or humiliation etc. Killing may be unintentionally or accidentally. The victim suffer only a short while, often they do not know that they are going to die. But to the person who is convicted and sentence to death, there are going to suffer for years and imagine few weeks, few days, few hours going to be hanged/shot/electrecuted to death. Judge and lawyers are human, human can make mistake. Therefore , there are always possibility of wrong judgement. Judge cannot 100% right because they are human. It is better not to prosecuted the criminal than prosecuting innocent people.

Eye for an eye

So what if they're left hanging for 1/2 hour. They're not suffering during that time, apparently unconscious within seconds after dropping.

Albert Pierpoint used to leave the executed Men hanging for an hour but I believe that the Doctor used to check that life was extinct straight after the drop.

All you saying the death penalty deters crime. Then why are there still so many murders, kidnappings, drug trafficking, etc? In the olden days criminals were publicly executed in the most horrific ways imaginable but even that did not prevent people from committing heinous crimes. The death penalty only serves to lessen the national financial burden of keeping criminals alive. Killing the criminals won’t reverse the effects of the crimes already committed.

This guy talk smart...but what if by coincidence his mother or wife or son or daughter got murdered by someone...would he still talk in the same tune?

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The Malaysians use the old British long drop which is based on weight to deliver a drop force of about 900 lb ft. Look for Saddaam Hussein’s handing on here. He was gone in a trice.. As the judge said the sheer force of the snap of the rope breaks their neck and they are instantly knocked out and dead shortly afterwards. The horrific thing would be being in the cell near the gallows and hearing the crash knowing one day it will be you. That is the torture

hanging was inhumane, offenders were tortured to death

I did some research that during judical hanging, some prisoner's heart keep on beating although there is already brain death (medical term that the body could no longer function on its own as the brain is dead) So they left the body hanging for 30-60 minutes. And by the time guards take down the dead body, more than 90 percent by that time, the deceased's heart beat would stopped beating. The intention is not to humiliate or torture the victim but medical and legal reason.

It's a good way of cutting down the reoffending rates.

Executions are just a government retribution, it has never really served as a deterrent, every executioner has stated it served no purpose whatsoever, and many became advocates of abolition of death sentence

Firing squad quick clean job done