Hot Hatch Head2Head #13: MK8 Fiesta ST vs MK4 Focus ST

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3 жыл бұрын

IT'S BACK! Welcome to season 2 of Hot Hatch Head2Head...Today, we see the MK8 Fiesta ST (Performance Edition) go up against the MK4 Focus ST.
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@hampshirephoto 3 жыл бұрын

IT’S BACK!

@grezza3421 3 жыл бұрын

What's that, the naff graphics crew 😂😂😂😂

@nickparks262 3 жыл бұрын

Bring back that last round....theres no category for price/value for money or handling/fun to drive.

@emilioroyce8469 2 жыл бұрын

I dont mean to be off topic but does any of you know of a method to log back into an instagram account..? I somehow lost my account password. I would love any assistance you can give me.

@maximilianoaarav2178 2 жыл бұрын

@Emilio Royce Instablaster =)

@Flare_TM 3 жыл бұрын

You need to include a handling test, that’s where some hatchbacks, particularly the Fiesta ST, truly shine, and not to not compare that is a shame

@iancairns7398 3 жыл бұрын

Don't forget you add 0.5secs to the 0-60 for every passenger you have.

@Crage1981 3 жыл бұрын

Wait a second... 4:36 The Focus ST MK4 has 420 NM, not 310...

@stevehastings6802 3 жыл бұрын

Can the guy with the focus tell me where he got his number plate screws from please? Can't find any anywhere!

@Racer-M 3 жыл бұрын

The focus dual glass roof is amazing. I have a 2018 focus st but I'm in the states. RIP focus st lovers.

@MannedCoronet00 3 жыл бұрын

Yesssss, not even watched it yet. I’ve missed this series

@GBFeb72 3 жыл бұрын

Having had three Focus ST’s I’d pick the Focus. That spec looks good

@KAZUYADOG 3 жыл бұрын

Add my vote to the Focus ST,and the Focus ST is the real winner as the MPG was over 1600 miles not just 200 on the Fiesta.Oh and i am biased because my Ford has the Ruby Red paint and panoramic roof,got great taste the Focus owner.

@dennisbernaerts6488 3 жыл бұрын

Ive seen this ruby red in person last week and its gorgeous, and not the usual performance blue which everyone chooses

@Bob-sy7ln 3 жыл бұрын

This is a fairly impressive segment - much more engaging presentation than some of your previous pieces! Well done! Nice music beds also. Have you had some training? Great pictures and improved audio, if I may add without being an insult!

@Cjmuzza-or4qx 3 жыл бұрын

Both amazing cars for ep1. Can't wait for more to come out

@bob6168able 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. A video of focus ST vs ST line. Also , a video of focus ST vs Type R. Which is more fun?

@TheAdamski99 3 жыл бұрын

Definitely not 310nm 😂😂

@otrreviewsanddetailing9962 3 жыл бұрын

That’s my fault got NM and FTLbs mixed 🤣

@djiminitraveller 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, 420nm or 310ft lb torque

@johnnyturbo8460 3 жыл бұрын

I wish they sold the Fiesta 3 door here in the USA

@shaneleslie9218 3 жыл бұрын

They don’t even sell the Fiesta at all in America

@slamminx3 3 жыл бұрын

Good to see this series back mate 👍🏻

@kennethblack6237 3 жыл бұрын

Bad tests all round, poor launch too you cant do that much wheelspin and call it a 0-60 run

@STEVEBHPDEVON 3 жыл бұрын

Good vid luke closer than I thought cheers steve 👍 😀

@antoinechl3657 3 жыл бұрын

This video is exactly what I was looking for !!! Hesitating between Fiesta St and Focus St 😍

@anastasiospapadakis2503 2 жыл бұрын

Which one you got

@muttleysb5830 3 жыл бұрын

I love both, can’t say I’m a fan of the ruby red, someone parked their performance blue Mk4 ST next to my ST PE yesterday and that did make me regret not getting another focus as was stunning in the sun!

@dennisbernaerts6488 3 жыл бұрын

Mk8 ST doesnt really look too good in any color, cuz of the less agressive back end. Thats why i bought one in black, many of my friends regret picking performance blue, and think black looks best tbh

@iainrae 3 жыл бұрын

Ruby red discontinued,

@boipelomompati6040 3 жыл бұрын

cant wait to see the rest of the season episodes

@TimChump 3 жыл бұрын

You’re gonna have to find someone with a standard m140 now to make it fair 🤣

@martinhankin422 3 жыл бұрын

Focus is 420 nm, 310 lbft

@freddieb1903 3 жыл бұрын

WOO HOO. IM SO EXCITED FOR THIS 😁

@jimmyking1205 3 жыл бұрын

Owner of the fiesta makes the seats look spacious. If you've ever been in one my god their tight 😄

@jimmyking1205 3 жыл бұрын

@diamus100 can't speak for the latest focus. But the new fiesta st has some serious venus fly traps as seats

@neovenom9833 3 жыл бұрын

my ST200 had the same problem, but you have to mold the seaths to your body. also I am fit, but not skinny like that bloke. He needs a sandwich!

@lawrencepll76 2 жыл бұрын

Can you do a comparison of the Fiesta ST against the BRZ/ GR86? Both affordable by proper fun cars, with very different approaches! I’m interested to see your thought because I’d love to buy the new Fiesta ST, but am currently weighting up against the GR86!

@TheSmokingGunmen 3 жыл бұрын

I prefer the look of the focus. But with the 0-60 times so close why pay an extra 10 grand for the focus. The fiesta is the winner for me.

@DCALLUS23 3 жыл бұрын

Nice to see this return luke 👍

@adamfarmiloe 3 жыл бұрын

The time it takes to accelerate from 0 to 60 mph (0 to 97 km/h or 0 to 27 m/s) is a commonly used performance measure for automotive acceleration in the United States and the United Kingdom. In the rest of the world, 0 to 100 km/h (0 to 62.1 mph) is used.

@brayton6683 3 жыл бұрын

Please in your next video please do an comparison with the old and new M140i And I would also love to see the new A45 Amg on the channel

@bazelvin6136 Жыл бұрын

I have ordered a mk8.5 fiesta in mean green should be here in the next 3 weeks :)

@x58evo2puma7 3 жыл бұрын

Great job Luke I would of gone for the fiesta it was pretty close in most rounds so well done little hot hatch

@klynekinnear5916 3 жыл бұрын

Why was there no head to head drag race

@taffyboy1978 2 жыл бұрын

The fiesta would destroy the focus on handling, take them for a race around some windy roads. Thats the only test that counts for me, and the reason why i’ve switch back to a fiesta

@ogshotglass9291 2 жыл бұрын

1:05 you said you've never seen the Focus except on the road. You're lucky. I live in the United States where they stopped production of this beautiful vehicle. I Drove a 2008 Focus SES, and I miss that car.

@CASFAN 3 жыл бұрын

Quite a poor head to head. If you are going to do a 0-60 then you need to do multiple runs in each to get a decent launch in each. I think both are quoted about the same 6.5 second time so that should have been a draw. The Fiesta ST is heralded as one of the best hot hatches you can buy (Quaife LSD with the performance pack, superb handling), whereas the Focus suffers from torque steer and is generally not as good. The Fiesta is simply the better hot hatch and is up there with the Civic Type R and GR Yaris in the top 3 hot hatches you can currently buy.

@dungareesareforfools 3 жыл бұрын

Nice cars and video - but if you’re going to trust the fuel computer for the MPG, at least reset it at the start of the tests!

@Andrew-el8xi 2 жыл бұрын

Looking at the focus I think I'd rather have that ...both good cars but shape wise focus wins personally ...good vid ..

@elvanmilla830 3 жыл бұрын

The fiesta looks like the fiat punto sporting I like it still 👍

@jaym2569 3 жыл бұрын

It’s sad ford won’t bring these sweet cars to the USA.

@Leonidae 3 жыл бұрын

You will get 400Z instead..

@jaym2569 3 жыл бұрын

Don’t get me wrong cool car but I own a 17 fist I love this car! I’d like the newer one.. I’m a family man lol

@jackthompson265 3 жыл бұрын

Ben sort them red brake callipers out doesn’t do it justice with the orange spray them black or orange

@kevinsarwelas192 3 жыл бұрын

They shouldve turn the launch control off! It shouldn't wheel spin then😂

@barryjames3747 2 жыл бұрын

You have way more fun in the fiesta, it's just that it's too boy racery for older drivers.

@barryjames3747 2 жыл бұрын

Not all older drivers either want or are able to drive high performance prestige cars. at 45yrs I have had the most fun ever, driving about for a few weeks in a fiesta st.

@x58evo2puma7 3 жыл бұрын

U should of put the mk7 in with these three as well

@andrewmaple9863 3 жыл бұрын

Love this

@timmotsoeneng3422 3 жыл бұрын

Nice video "Cries in South African"

@MrMattyb111 3 жыл бұрын

You're amazed at under 30mpg on the focus and say you can't get near that in an m140i. My m140i has an average mpg of 35.3 over the last 10k miles, easily done with much spirited driving along the way

@twinring3846 8 ай бұрын

You really should include some rolling times as part of the challenge, they are more realistic in everyday driving. 30-70 and 20-50 would be some good times to record.

@H8XME 3 жыл бұрын

Isnt the mk4 410 nm?

@STEVEBHPDEVON 3 жыл бұрын

420nm 310 pounds feet

@otrreviewsanddetailing9962 3 жыл бұрын

Yeh that’s my bad for FTLbs and NM mixed up 🤣

@johnwhite2143 Жыл бұрын

Both nice cars, hard choice 👌👍

@gtiguy76 3 жыл бұрын

yes hot hatch head2head is back

@garns8878 3 жыл бұрын

When geeks get cars on finance 😂😂🤦‍♂️

@K33EEE 3 жыл бұрын

Underrated comment 🤣

@jim8462 3 жыл бұрын

They need to all spend a bit of time in the gym well skinny. Good vid though

@Morgan1367 3 жыл бұрын

Thought most people get into debt for cars though 🤷🏻‍♂️

@garns8878 3 жыл бұрын

@@Morgan1367 most stupid people

@Morgan1367 3 жыл бұрын

Garns 88 or just people with better jobs than others?

@christianpotaczaa2897 3 жыл бұрын

Maybe Fiesta have small engine but this is truly a hot hatch car. I ordered St 2 version with performance pack for march 2021. I also prefer Fiesta because it is two times cheapier comapred to Focus ST at least here in Poland where I leave. Here price in PLN is like in Great Britain in pounds so imagine pay 180 000 pounds for focus ST... :) We have some shitty salaries :D

@mlukubone7134 3 жыл бұрын

Launch control is a bit of a gimmick in FWD cars

@njp3729 3 жыл бұрын

Can’t lie do like the focus ST but that colour is so ugly...

@KAZUYADOG 3 жыл бұрын

The video does it no justice whatsoever,have a look at Ruby Red in the sunshine its glorious.

@andy-yb4ch 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I agree, it’s minging

@nastynick886 3 жыл бұрын

Mirrors it’s Owner I’m afraid .

@iainrae 3 жыл бұрын

Ruby red is awful, tbh, got mine in performance blue.

@njp3729 3 жыл бұрын

Iain Rae ooooo performance blue I bet that’s sick

@bestyoutube5318 Жыл бұрын

Him wi fiesta sounds like daffy duck 😂 man needs to eat a burger or 2 🍖

@dozzvtech6342 2 жыл бұрын

My Focus Titanium X Nav doing 50-60mpg on the regular 😏

@jkfarrelly1 2 жыл бұрын

your mpg test was dubious at best

@paulb876 3 жыл бұрын

Ford should offer the Fez ST in ruby red.

@SpoolinShirley 3 жыл бұрын

If you buy those Ford Performance wheels to normal ST mk8, you will lose warranty to suspension parts here in Finland. Because of those are not stock wheels from factory 😂

@calum2403 3 жыл бұрын

Been waiting for this😂

@andytarrant9152 3 жыл бұрын

The Fiesta sounds like a tuned Trabant, sorry....

@ad_182_uk 3 жыл бұрын

When ya hair matches the paint 👌🏽

@2595220 3 жыл бұрын

of course 3 pot is gonna be better on fuel... why they made the new ST a 3 pot in the first place.

@rbptheprettiest 3 жыл бұрын

Great sound, good character and nice performance. Fuel consumption is an added bonus.

@2595220 3 жыл бұрын

@diamus100 exactly.

@2595220 3 жыл бұрын

@@rbptheprettiest i totally agree, id love to get one in that colour too.

@ChilliCSGO 3 жыл бұрын

I've got an fiesta ST and get no way near 40mpg, 33 more like. That guy must drive it like granny 😂

@philipporter4433 3 жыл бұрын

It said 233miles... If that was mainly dual carriageway or motorway then easily doable driven at less than 80. He could have driven half the country to meet this guy for the test. I could always get 40mpg+ out of my mk3 focus mp275 on a run when going on family holidays, all loaded up. Obviously this would include a few overtakes but generally sensible driving.

@kwesto03 3 жыл бұрын

It would be good if the guy with the Focus actually knew what he was talking about. 420 nm on the Focus not 310. Basics man.

@lindseybreen2305 3 жыл бұрын

@8.05 blaming his lsd for a slow 0- 60 time ....absolutely clueless. Lsd improves traction it doesnt make it worse. The car didnt bog down it was wheel spinning !

@druckyop3232 3 жыл бұрын

uff interesting 0-60 time haha. It is no automatic so dont floor it after it launched :D

@deanstarkey7686 3 жыл бұрын

40.8mpg? Jeez. I should of just bought an fiesta ST. My fiesta st-line 140 is doing about 37mpg 🤦🏻‍♂️

@mark-1rc502 Жыл бұрын

I typically get somewhere between 25-27mpg avg in my ST. Focus It went in for some warranty repair and I was given a Puma 155 hybrid ST line. The dash was saying 37mpg but I was chucking in same amount of fuel so I calculated it to be around 22mpg . Which is diabolical for a 1.litre

@TGShunai 3 жыл бұрын

And this video is the reason why you use an odd number of challanges in video's like this ;)

@cy9nvs 2 жыл бұрын

310Nm of torque? What? It's 420Nm, even the mk3 had 360Nm.

@DrivingWithBen 3 жыл бұрын

Well then 💪🏻

@freddieb1903 3 жыл бұрын

I love the colour on your Ford 😁

@freddieb1903 3 жыл бұрын

The Orange looks ace 👍

@Barnsey2k7 3 жыл бұрын

That top left fuel figure is rubbish - barely ever correct! And also, how many of the focus 1600 miles was running the DS Stage 1?

@hairyviking6047 3 жыл бұрын

Race mode, dry road, 4000 rpm, ride out clutch, flat foot shift, no passenger, will get into the sixes with the fist. I know, I own one. Plus, the fist will get better lateral g's than most cars on the market.

@bizz-pg3hd 10 ай бұрын

In the right hands there weapons

@whatsupbro1317 Жыл бұрын

Wish we got the new gen in America:(

@richardd1880 3 ай бұрын

These two are proper geek's...🤣😂😭

@mzr3553 3 жыл бұрын

I prefer my mps.lots of torq steer and a raw fun car.

@FastLifeVlog 3 жыл бұрын

Owners represend weight of the cars pretty well👌😆

@f00lxpl 3 жыл бұрын

You are right. Fiesta is light and that is the key. Focus is over 1500 kg.. crazy for FWD car, hence Astra VXR was not popular for that reason also.

@iainrae 3 жыл бұрын

0-60times down to drivers, imo, I've had mine at a baw hair above 6secs,

@Chema7657 5 ай бұрын

I love the Fiesta ST

@cameronlotter1392 2 жыл бұрын

Should've done a brake test

@dheeradjlachman9658 3 жыл бұрын

Nice Ford i got one fiesta St but i want more fun give the I30N more njoyabele for me 👍😄

@dheeradjlachman9658 3 жыл бұрын

@Chris yes okay thankyou!

@davidkay3443 3 жыл бұрын

@Chris they were sold for UK market only. This has been verified and confirmed by ford UK and 600 in number pal. Whether anybody has exported them to Europe after they purchased is viable. But pls don't tell me to check my facts when they are 100% correct Chris. UK only production run..

@robf9147 3 жыл бұрын

“Performance Edition' Fiesta ST. Limited to just 600 units, and on sale from June, the model is exclusively three-door - and exclusive to the UK.” - Ford.

@davidkay3443 3 жыл бұрын

@Chris kid?!? Really? Stupid!? I don't think there is any requirement for you to resort to name calling. The information is all over Ford's website. All over the performance edition brochures. And clearly states UK run only. So by your comments other than insulting me you in essence stating ford is being false in their advertising for the performance edition.. enjoy the rest of your evening and if name calling could be refrained from that would be appreciated

@davidkay3443 3 жыл бұрын

@@robf9147 thanks Rob for highlighting and reinforcing what I was trying to explain to Chris before he resorted to name calling

@johnpardo4695 3 жыл бұрын

The Fiesta is a better drive on the twisites

@TheTechnoaddict 3 жыл бұрын

The startup on that fiesta sounds horrible! If my car sounded like that i would bring it back to the shop!

@brendonbell8720 3 жыл бұрын

The fiesta is afcoarse gonna win the fuel consumption cause it's a Three cilinder ,very light on fuel

@thegreatalta 3 жыл бұрын

Well... got to say guys! More worth while tests would be how much the cars deflect spaghetti, best to drive with one foot and which looks best while hiding. The Focus ST is the same price as a Focus RS was for what is half the car if that. Gear stick is too high and is beaten on most areas by its competitors. The Fiesta handles better, is cheaper and just as quick in the real world if you drive it properly. The performance edition offers no more acceleration that's just wishful thinking. Plus... and any car that has a pano roof kills the 0-62 and the handling

@370zbros2 3 жыл бұрын

7s 🙈🙈.

@painauchocolate2395 3 жыл бұрын

You had both cars and you didn’t drag race them? Literally skipped the entire video to see how well the fez would do and nothing lol

@joshuajackson7246 3 жыл бұрын

40mpg in a Fiesta ST, does this man even touch the pedals?

@hairyviking6047 3 жыл бұрын

Don't know what that really means but my one does 7.2 litres to 100km

@nastynick886 3 жыл бұрын

Your 0-60 times are off because your pressing a Button on your phone .

@jameshedges3857 3 жыл бұрын

He used a draggy. Its dead accurate😂😂

@nastynick886 3 жыл бұрын

James Hedges More like dead laggy.

@pjb9010 3 жыл бұрын

Those 0-60 were really shit! Road surface must be the reason?

@TheFusedplug 3 жыл бұрын

(Warning: OFF TOPIC PARTS TO MY COMMENT) I'm a lover of Fords in general I wouldn't mind seeing Ford V Vauxhall - which in my mind (bear in mind I'm 48 years old) could cause as many arguments as there were and still are between Sinclair Spectrum owners and Commodore 64 owners (of course the Spectrum 128k machines kind of won that battle EASILY when you consider the quality of software titles from 1986 onwards ).