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thank you for mentioning hhelenas on the spectrum - ive read 0 game of thrones books - but from the first season - as someone on the spectrum myself - i KNEW she was too - you can just tell if your on it too, from the way she acts to her parents to the way she c0vers her ears when the velaryion is beheaded and WAY more subtle tells - ive diagnosed my niece before she was tested and confirmed and my friend who had 2 things, both tested and confiremd years later - we just know, we see too many similarirties, then ask ourselves if they are, monitor their actions and speech and can suualy tell within aa sentence or two / scene or two after the suspicion - im so glad you mentioned it - people saying its " bad writing" or even worse "bad acting" are simply idiots imo - ITS LITERALLY PERFECT ACTING - even in the behind the scenes - the helena actor phia is showing signs of something, whether thats autism or something smaller but similar like aspergers idk, but you can tell easily. She nailed it completely and i have huge respect for her

one of the worst takes on the final scene you could have ever produced and all because you lack of book-knowledge - it was not about seeing a childs head rolling or beeing cut IT WAS ABOUT THE SENTENCE THEY SAY TO HELENA!!!!!!! but how can you know - DONT TRY TO TALK ABOUT STUFF YOU DIDNT RED DUDE!!! you screwed up this whole video

Dragons kind of forgot that they're scared of the dead.

not a fan of D&D but as far as I know the entire Dragons cant cross the wall thing was written in fire and blood which wasn't out when the episode aired.

Dumb and dumber doesn't deserve to be respected

Not scared, but definitely avoiding the problem. Dragons are of Valyria. The only thing to kill White Walkers is Valyrian Steel. Definitely something in common ​@@Yuri77711

Also Bran had broken some of the wards beyond the wall from the night kings touch, so I assume the wall’s anti-dragon power was broken by it as well

100 percent. The only thing as close to as emotionally impactful was leper viserys, that's because anyone whose watched their father die can relate.

I didnt care for it. Somehow Rhaenyra and everyone is well able to keep her composure when daddy dies, and her lover and father of her children (Harwin Strong) but baby boy needs to hit hard when she was so dumb herself to send him off on a mission like that solo.

Great scene, I’m glad they didn’t over saturate it with dialogue and just let the performances happen.

​​@@EbonySeraphimIt's their duty to win over support of the other kingdoms. You don't get support by sending a generic messenger, now do you make much time. It's a reasonable thing to do given the circumstances, and the danger was very low. Really only another dragon could hurt him, so he didn't have any other real dangers, and they didn't think it would happen. That tells you about them, coddling your kids too much also leads to other issues, you need to let them take risks.

Agreed. Great acting from both

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I watched the scene back and they both had dragon eggs incubating under their beds 🥺

@@J_ads2000 Which was also different from the book. Both twins had young dragons housed in the Dragonpit, while Maelor still had an egg.

Tbf Fire and Blood was written after season 7 so DnD had no way of knowing about this plot thread about the dragons and the wall

Well, I see it as linked to the book canon, not GOT show canon.

I assumed Dany flew the dragons round Eastwatch, not that D&D would have thought of that anyway

I thought of it as retconning the entirety of season 7 and 8

I hate DnD as much as you and others, but let's cut them some slack for Drogon crossing the wall. It was a horrible episode, but in GoT timeline, it is told that magic from the known world and especially from Westeros is gone. So, theoretically, Dany/Drogon crossing the wall is right.

Well he dismisses the witness who claims seeing the White Walkers as a delusional mad man. Benjen also claims that the deserter was "tough, a true ranger" (although probably primarily saying that to bolster his post-mortem image), but that also indicates he was of sound mind. Then in that scene Ned also scoffs at the idea of White Walkers actually attacking him and deflects to it being the wildlings. But in general, if the undead threat has had a consistent awareness amongst the Starks for that long, I'm surprised it is essentially done away with in only 180 years.

​@@SupercutsDelight It might have varied over time depending on how superstitious each Stark Lord has been and how well those superstitions were passed down post danced. Let's not forget that several Stark lords die in rapid succession after Cregan. I do feel it's plausible that the knowledge might have struggled to be passed down after those events and that they most recent Stark lords might have just been less superstitious than their forefathers.

They still sent Benjen

This. And importantly, this is still a time of dragons. Magical creatures exists. Everyone sees them fly over the city regularly. It’s a lot easier to believe in something like the white walkers when dragons already exist. But when they’ve been dead for two centuries, people will have a harder time believing in other magical creatures like the white walkers.

@@SupercutsDelightyou forgot to blame D&D for the dragon and wall bullshit lol the dragons not wanting to cross the wall was a big point in fire and blood so that’s their fault that’s it’s all messed up now tbh.

Especially her reunion with Jace. The feeling of emptiness created by Luke’s absence is absolutely enhanced by Rhaenyra’s silence. Jace breaking down, Rhaenyra getting up to go to him as he hesitates before decompressing into her arms. Such a powerful scene.

They had done this before with Daemon on episode 3 of the first season and it worked wonders this time too like it did then. The power of good writing and acting.

I noticed that too

He was also a second son, let's not forget- Brandon was Lord Rickard's heir - it's possible that much like the Targaryen prophecy/ dream-thing; it was passed directly from lord to heir, & no one expected their deaths to occur so soon, nor to follow one another so rapidly- so even if the matter had survived into the 'present-day' of the near-GoT timeline, there's nothing to say that it wasn't instantly lost with their deaths- after having been successfully continued for generations & centuries...

@@OcarinaSapphr-that’s actually so interesting

@@hayleenicole9326 It's also interesting to think about his late brother Brandon as more than a cliche 'bro'- & the North as something other than isolationist (as we've been conditioned to think), when other information is taken into account; Brandon's ill-fated friend-group, for instance - while it _could_ just be assumed he was the typical young blood- having been free to leave home to wander about after obtaining his majority & make friends where he would -- however, the young men he befriends; they're young lords or sons/ heirs of lords in the North, Riverlands, & Vale- important people, who it would be advantageous for the future Lord Stark to cultivate relationships with (especially in time of strife) -- hell, even Rickard fostering Ned outside of the North has interesting implications -- Barbrey considers Brandon's engagement (& Ned's marriage) a manipulation; his father's 'southron ambitions' having been brought about by his Maester -- but if that's more than - at least, in part - a projection of her jealousy- then what *_other_* reasons does Lord Rickard have to make those choices: His eldest son & heir is betrothed to the daughter of the Lord Paramount of the Riverlands - his second son is fostered in the Vale - his only daughter is betrothed to the young lord of the Stormlands? Question is: is this entirely unusual, is Barbrey's attitude justified? We're given the impression from the family tree in 'World of Ice & Fire' that precious few Stark marriages are *not* Northern; much is made of the apparently resented, & possibly ill-fated marriage of Torrhen's daughter to Ronnel Arryn (she may well have died before her husband/ offspring's murder by his younger brother) - but, there are two other things to consider: with the exception of this first post-Conquest match, & Barbrey in the present-day, there are no hints that *any* of the subsequent 5 named non-Northern marriages had engendered _any_ ill-feelings. *_However_* , we also know next-to-nothing about inter-realm marriages _prior_ to the Conquest, where it's described as a means of the Targaryens (most clearly, Queen Rhaenys, & later, Queen Alysanne) uniting the realms through these cross-realm matches between their subjects. Furthermore, our overall view _is_ limited, because the line's only really clear back to Lord Benjen Stark {before that, it's in bits & pieces, & almost no marriages are shown/ detailed}, who married a fellow Northerner - his two sons also married Northerners; Rickon's only surviving son Cregan, married 3 times- 1 being a non-Northerner^- & he had 4 daughters by her- there's no detail on _their_ marriages, if they indeed married - his sons by his other 2 marriages either died young, or married fellow Northerners~^^ - his only daughter by this final marriage, like her elder half-sisters, also has no details about any marriage made. - Cregan's youngest son, Brandon eventually became lord- he had 4 children; his son Beron m. Lorra Royce from the Vale - his eldest-surviving son's 2nd wife was a non-Northerner^; of 4 of his 7 children- there are no details - 2 married Northerners; of them: Willam Stark was married twice (the 2nd was non-Northern^), with 3 children between them; his son Edwyle- married a fellow Northerner- & would be the father of Lord Rickard - but his sister, Jocelyn (Great-Aunt of Ned/ Great-Great-Aunt to the Stark kids) married Benedict Royce; the couple had 3 daughters, who married into fellow Vale houses: Waynwood, Templeton, & Corbray - it's these descendants where Cat encourages Robb to look for heirs, in place of Jon. Both of Artos' sons had children, but no mention of how many, nor who their wives/ partners were- only that there was issue. The youngest son, Rodrick was the father of Branda & Lyarra (Ned's mother)- the elder daughter, Ned's aunt/ great-aunt to the Stark kids; she married into House Rogers, in the Stormlands- there's no further detail about their descendants, if there are any. Like with the Targaryens, a la-post-Dance, it seems that there's a knowledge lost to time... Sorry for what probably seems like a tinfoil ramble, lol! ^Blackwoods were originally Northerners, but were exiled long ago from the North, to the Riverlands- yet the intermarriages over the ages {at least two} imply that there's no hard feelings ~ Two marriages were with House Manderly- though long considered Northern, having been in the North for centuries before the Conquest - they were originally from the Reach - but, like the Northerners, they're a First Men house ^^ There's an odd, incestuous situation that occurs; Cregan's first-born son & heir, Rickon, predeceases his father- *but* he had two daughters before his death - however, these granddaughters (as well as Cregan's daughters by his 2nd marriage) are passed over in favour of Cregan's younger sons by his 3rd marriage... BUT two of his sons go on to marry their half-nieces; Jonnel is married to Sansa's namesake - & Edric is married to the widowed Serena - Jonnel & the elder Sansa have no children, but Serena & Edric do- two of their children, marry into Houses Umber & Cerwyn - though Edric was the elder son, Lordship of Winterfell eventually passes to the youngest son, Brandon- whose 2nd son Beron, eventually becomes Lord. My spit-balled idea, after reading this was twofold: it was a way of sort of giving Rickon's daughters position {there's no evidence of a Queen Regnant in the North, nor a Ruling Lady of Winterfell- though other women have inherited rule of lesser Northern houses - & keep in mind, Cregan's also lived through the Dance of the Dragons...} & the other thought, that the marriages were some remnant of an ancient First Men custom- as a means of keeping the bloodline of the firstborn son alive in the family.

Exactly. Her not screaming felt natural.

And he didn’t prepare rhaenyra that well either… anyway I found aegon feeling the need of having jahaerys be present at council so telling on hi personal demon with viserys parenting

He was mostly just hit by everyone for being a horrible person 😂

@@giorgiamoretti6642his first time hearing requests from the people is telling of his upbringing. He wants people to love him. He wants affection so desperately. He wants people to like him, since he felt none of his family ever liked him growing up. He’s willing to give people whatever they want for their facade of love towards him.

I find this channel's commentary to be inaccurate sometimes, misinformed or just superficial. I like some of his videos, but I always watch like 10 minutes and then watch something else because he never says something that makes me feel like I learned a new piece of information.

@@Winter-Alpha-Omegathat’s actually interesting cuz I feel like I’m learning a lot of new things, but maybe that’s just because I’m a casual 😂

He was never redeemable.

@@JoshuaKevinPerrynot redeemable, but layered and nuanced.

Great point actually

This is probably it

This person thinks. Good brain ya got there. I had figured he had just gotten old and jaded and desensitized to killing deserters but that's a much better idea.

very poetic!

Aegon and Haelena are still young, he could still produce another heir if it came to that. They have time.

​@@archiraph1548 that's what Aemma and Viserys thought as well

​@@archiraph1548if you know her fate in the books it's irrelevant lol but no I think she is gonna be broken and shattered after this.

Maelor is still coming.

I dont see Aegon choosing his daughter as heir

@@HK-gm8pe The book doesn't have this problem since there is a younger boy (Maelor) left. But i think the maker of the show said that he has yet to come in the show. Idk what they will do if Maelor doesn't come. That creates a whole new dynamc which is weird.

That’s not happening. Aegon would undermine his own claim should he name his daughter the heir.

@@blondymonk1535 Was Maelor in the show? I don’t remember seeing him.

But, they keep changing stuff from the books here

​@@UsiQuotidiani.18 are you talking about Jaehaerys I at the wall and how they mention that Torrhen and Aegon met at the wall aswell instead of at the Inn and the kneeling man? 🤣

​@@UsiQuotidiani.18it's almost like the book is misinformation and dishonest retelling from people with agendas. It's even in the book that this is the reality of the situation. Anything that made the blacks look like monsters in the book is very likely to have been at best exaggerated at worst a pure fiction.

@@UsiQuotidiani.18well we have to keep in mind the book was never accurate either as the lore is it was written by maesters with differing views, so the reader never knew what the actual history was for many things

The entire book is misinformation written by people with a green leaning agenda. Nothing is "changed" from the book the book is a lie.

I love the fish out of water concept of it. We, the audience know what the starks are about but Jace grew up away from the North. Their customs are even slightly different, sending their own men to the wall which is something Ned never does in the original show

yeah meanwhile Criston and Alicent are searching for duty and sacrifice elsewhere

Something I didn't understand. What was the Lord Stark doing in the wall? Why wasn't he in Winterfell?

@@charlie172011 The show implied that Cregan Stark was visiting the wall at the time of Jace's arrival. The Starks/North had a close relationship with the Wall and the Nights watch, especially in the old days. A 1000 miles is not that distant for a dragon rider. So the best explanation is Jace first landed in winterfell; Cregan was absent; he then fly to the wall to meet him (as it was important that he secure the alliance). He stayed there for 1 or 2 days. For this reason, he returned to dragonstone after a few days (he missed his brothers funeral). I am glad that the show took into account the travel time. No more teleportation.

@@chrisr4023 ok that makes sense

And I was hoping to hear Otto’s “you only lost an eye how could you be so blind” to aemond. Overall episode was good but not great……….

I was kinda sad about how it was done I was mega excited

I think this Helaena only had 2 children and I understand why the show has been reducing the number of children, they are too many. Alicent also should have 4 kids but the show reduced it to 3.

​@@youngveteran6368 So, Otto didn't like that Aemond killed Luke either?

Blood and cheese was so toned down it was super disappointing.

“The Queen is an enduring mystery” is the funniest line in the show.

I love tom and phias performances! So good i love aegon for his wit

I don't love him because he's a rapist and someone who has done it a lot. But yeah, at least he's entertaining.

"Wholesome & cute"? 🥴 lol Hes a drunk rapey psycho. I can't wait til some of ya'll see who you're dealing with here.

@@misanthropicservitorofmars2116 I’ve definitely already made that into a meme. It was so good! 😂

Yes, magic and evidence of it is mostly gone. What does exist can be attributed to superstition by most.

Nah, the Long Night happened thousands years before, 172 years of difference doesn't really change the perception of it. It was a contrived exposition to remind us in what universe we are.

Plus, I like to think that the HotD writers are crapping on D and D's writing.

@@misabelrodriguez1163 yeah i thought about it. Like the anecdote of Queen Alysane and her dragon that didn't wand to go beyond the wall exists in the book but was completly unecessary in that scene. I really wish it was a comment on season 7 😅

@@nicolasbls1738 it may have been unnecessary but I did laugh hard when it was said. Any dumping on d and ds writing will always get a laugh out of me 😆

HOTD BABY, i cant wait bud

AAAAAAAAAAAAA

HELL YEAH BROTHER

If you’re a black supporter you might want blood and cheese to succeed. If you’re not on either side. Or the side of the common folk. You might want peace at all costs. That’s what makes it fun tbh. Your views can determine how you perceive the events that take place.

I don't know anyone that wanted them to succeed tf logic is that

​@@misanthropicservitorofmars2116 nobody is on the side of the common people, be fr

@@welivewelovewelie980 an audience member can be 😂

You brought up a great point and I kinda agree. A 50/50 pov from haelena and blood and cheese would work also, I think. But, I guess that would kill the suspense of who are their target.

Well I think hearing it and watching Halena's reaction was enough, she played it really well, I like it more and more seeing it in reviews over again.

They were still cruel, kicking a dog and cutting an infants head off. I never thought of them as competent in the books. Just hired thugs.

But who recounted the events in the book? Mushroom did, who has been proven to be an unreliable narrator. He wasn’t present when it happened so he could’ve filled in the blanks as he wanted to. The fact that it was actually a mission gone incredibly wrong will only increase the consequences, which is going to be so exciting to watch

Blood and Cheese and their actions would've only been seen by the Greens. And then probably exaggerated with every retelling. Until it got to Gildayn who wrote Fire and Blood, they and the Blacks were made to be as evil as possible.

are you being serious?? the cut off a childs head!

@@lewis0705raises a question as to what daemon said

This. I don't think it's unreasonable that the fear of the white walkers diminished in the in the 172 years between the two series. We as humans can only maintain a heightened state of readiness for so long. With no clear threat I can absolutely see the Starks becoming lax in watching for the threat from beyond the wall.

People but not nobility

And the dragon thing is really just a myth. I havent read the books but I assume there are no one doing experiments with dragons riding them up to the wall, putting the claim through the scientific method.

I thought it was amazing too. BUT I'm also very aware that GoT started off with minor changes and cut characters even from season 1 that snowballed. When book people were flagging stuff back then, I dismissed it as not a big deal until it was season 7 and it turned out they were right. Sometimes writers make what they think are minor changes they don't think are important but then they get seasons down the line and realise they needed that small thing now to make the plot work and don't have it. Hoping that's not gonna be the case here and will keep watching but I fully understand and welcome the concerns.

Not really the core of the most important scene of the season was ruined. The Blood and Cheese scene was pathetic and disastrous and missed the whole point of what the scene was suposed to be.

​@@masterplokoon8803how can you possibly now what "the most important scene of the season" will be after only one episode? lol

@@vinogr00nko93 because I know the story. The deaths of Luke and Jahaerys are the most important scenes that completely change the nature of the story.

@@masterplokoon8803 you know the story of the books, you don't know the story of the show, it established that it's not afraid of changing stuff and considering that the rest of the book is essentially just battle after battle it fair to assume even more changes are to come

I mean it was average.

The death of Jeahearys was good, but B&C themselves and the way they act especially with helaena and the over all choice was much worse in the books and way more terrifying.

@@lucasbelmonte2832 I hear you! I have not read the last three books but I remember when I watched that GOT animated video summary of the Dance of Dragons and being horror-stricken at how they made Helena choose. What I liked about the show's version was that blood and cheese had recognizable human aspects and their actions emphasized that they were not in control of the situation and had to react in the moment. Like I thought it was quality when cheese suddenly could tell Helena couldnt lie because they are both not fully sane (I mean he spends his days in dungeons catching rats)

I am just confused apparently it was huge moment in the books. For me it was just kid i saw for few seconds dying offscreen and why should i care same with her mother i forgot she was even in the show

Sir Criston Cuck*

Just not as good as it was in the book.. it wasn’t bad but they missed out on having more emotional stakes

the book version would've been way to much for TV. B&C even threaten to sa Heleana's daughter.

@@firstlast9846 I think that's cuz they crammed all of the build up to the dance into 10 episodes. we barely got to know Heleana, and her son even less.

Ah yes no guards any where having helanea walk in on her mother having s3x like it’s a comedy truly the best adaption ever

In the book Alicent hightower is an eye witness, i think its alot more powerful in the show. The book seems a little too much for characters we havnt had time to get emotionally attached to. Like shock value for the sake of shco. Im thrilled with the scene from the show

that's exactly what game of thrones had at the beginning, based on books that are mostly talking, and didn't have budget for epic action scenes so even battles from the books had to be cut later seasons lost that aspect, got more budget and startet doing more actions scenes instead of you know, character work

@@vinogr00nko93 also those subtle movements and action of the characters for example when alicent and christon walked in the small counsel and otto noticed them

What exactly?

Well, we also get that from the Greens as well. Allison genuinely believed Viserys wanted Aegon on the throne but was always firmly against killing Rhaenyra and her family, and Aemond killing Luke was an accident. Plus, Rhaenyra may have said to go for Aemond, but she still left it in the hands of Daemond, which should never have been the case. At the end of the day, the blacks are still responsible for what happened, just like Aemond is still responsible for Luke’s death.

It also seemed very easy to asssassinate someone that important. Like daemon just goes up to some guy he heard about and even sends in some random other guy and they can just pass through all of the halls? Also the queen couldve screamed after leaving the room since i imagine there would be guards around the queens quarters right?

Not really random since they ask Daemon what they should do if they don't find Aemond and he smirks at them before cutting away. And I don't think she would've screamed, there's no guarantee that they won't get to her before the guards plus she is on the spectrum and is set up to be a very timid and quiet person since the first season

@@TilDrill You have to remembered that Daemon is loved by the gold cloaks, they are still secretly loyal to him and that will be proven later and blood is a gold cloak, also cheese is a rat catcher and Daemon offered him life changing money. They could pass through the castle because people believe them to be ratch catchers, you even see cheese earlier on in the episode catching rats in the red keep. Helaena is special, she is obviously on the spectrum and quite slow and its very obvious her mind just stopped working and the she goes into little girl mode and goes to find mommy.

it is heavily implied that it was Daemon's suggestion before the cutaway, pretty sure the next episode will elaborate on it

​@@TilDrillDaemon was the City Commander and still had some guys faithful to him in the city watch who happened to know the rat catcher. And no, there would be no guards around. I would guess this is because Alicent was screwing Cole, so Alicent must have had all the guards removed from around, which is also the reason why Blood and Cheese didnt stumble upon any guards on their way. So, indirectly, Alicent fu#king cole killed her grandson

The actual Death of Jaehearys was good, it was blood and cheese themselves they fumbles. They act more like the burglars from home alone then the sadistic killers they are in the books. Also because Maelor was cut we dont get the devastating choice that later leads to Helaenas suicide as well as the famous "You hear that little boy? Your mama wants you dead" line. Helaena also offering a necklace instead of her own life was a weird change.

I love how they changed the intro, almost signifies the change after Venerises Death. But gonna have to respectfully disagree, the theme slaps and its just so "game of thrones" to me. A war toned targerian theme might be cool for a season finally tho

It's pretty widely accepted by the fandom how blood and cheese was , changing it this much was just rushing the story

Yeah, but in the book it carries gravitas, while in the show it was more like " That was a shit show." Feeling. Worst change ever made to a Martin story and that is saying a lot. Probably only compared to Sansa getting raped.

"The book is unreliable!" Oh shut up. So what? Is the show supposed to be "What really happened?" If so... what happened to Maelor? Did history literally just make up a fake targaryen?

People also forget, Fire and Blood was BIASED TOWARDS THE GREENS. Hence why you never hear anything bad about Aegon II, and why Rhaenyra is known as Maegor with teats

@@invidatauro8922dude. Relax.

It was great, but going with the book and making her choose one just to kill the other in stead, would have made it better I think. Obviously the fact they didn't show the gore was a good call. Nobody needs to see that.

This “unreliable narrator” bs has to stop, literally every time this is the go to excuse for poor scene execution First it was aegon coronation, then the battle above ship breaker bay and now it’s B&C and the fandom are just too stupid to see it because “well it’s not GoT season 8 bad🤷🏾‍♂️” , this is how GoT ended the way it did everyone going along because well at least it’s not that bad until it became THAT BAD Btw there were complaints from season one but they were so minor and it was their first season so we said “let ‘em cook” but now they are changing too much that’s supposed to set future plots in motion but it’s not a big enough problem until it becomes one for the ASOIAF fandom

@@JohnnythefirstI don’t think they were legally allowed to show it. Pretty sure there are laws about showing child deaths on TV

@@youngveteran6368 I agree straying too far from the og story is a problem. However , I think the plot points that come from blood and cheese still will workout fine based on the scene that was presented to us.

YES, people really overestimate the idea of some trauma placed on the kid, he's like 3, he cannot possibly comprehend what happened (also he dies like half a year later but that's off the point)

ah yes skipping over the greens reaction to Lukes death random alicent and cole s3x scene blood and cheese being reduced to a comedy such an amazing episode

@@-_-ligma “Reduced to comedy” ah yes, child murder is comedy to you, what a revelation of your character.

@@-_-ligma if thats how you feel, go back to watching GOT seasons 6-8. enjoy Dumb and Dumber's asinine writing

@@mmtgangsta91 what does the criticism have to do with Game of Thrones season 6-8 when are you guys gonna realize that this show doesn’t touch the first few seasons of Game of Thrones and it never will

@@mmtgangsta91 His complaints are all legitimate. God and read blood and cheese from the book and tell me the show did it well.

Exactly, especially since in the show it's so blatantly obvious her children are bastards. We can believe whatever we want about the morality of the laws but they're still the laws. And under the law aegon is 100% justified

I know, I don’t understand why the writers constantly have to change Martin outlines, there are so few elements to follow here

illegal by what exact standars? Who wrote the objectively correct law that shall never be changed? Was the Great Cauncil merrited by a law or is it just a situation all law to uphold the patriarchy? If one king has the power to suddenly call upon a Great Council to decide the fate of an individual succesion then why should a different king not have the power not have the power to choose his own heir Laws is a human-made concept, holding on to one fictional law and ignoring a new one because the first one upholds the patriarchy is well... very telling

​@@UsiQuotidiani.18isn't that precisely why they change the outlines? The book is not a novel, just a short describtion of the war, if you want to make an actual drama out of it, changes need to be made, if you want the original story you can... you know, read the book?

@@vinogr00nko93 When liberals watch a series with an agenda in mind. No one cares.

Its the horror element that was missing. It shoudlnt have followed only blood and cheese through the castle, it should have split between them and Helaena getting her children ready for bed, they also should have made cheese more cruel and deranged like in the book.

@@lucasbelmonte2832 i think killing a child in front of their mother is quite cruel tbh

@@joshuajohnso8671 But it’s how blood and choose treat her that made the moment so horrible. Threading to rape your 4 year old daughter if you don’t chose, you chose one son to die and then the other is killed and your remaining son lives with the knowledge you chose for him to die. That’s way more horrible and better then what we got.

@@lucasbelmonte2832 the moment is still horrible without having to be over the top mushroomesque i think the only real problem is not how cruel it is but that there were absolutely no guards in the whole keep

@@joshuajohnso8671 There was also no horror. It’s actually quite goofy, from the way B&C stumble around the red keep to Helaena walking in on her mom banging her guard which just killed all the tension.

They still kill the scene

The symmetry achieved isn´t nearly enough to replace the original. I could excuse omitting the usage of Alicent as a trap and even not making Helena other watch the act, but removing Maekar and making the kids asleep while the choice is made is a terrible decision and disappoints greately. And I didn´t even read the source material.