Hahaha you have my vote for president

😂😂😂😂😂😂

Made me laugh like fucking Muggsy 😂😂😂

Lmao

That's actually a hugely valid point.Considering how many drunk drivers survive their accidents because of the alcohol loosens their bodies instead of tightening up so that could have actually saved his life when he fell.You're a genius my friend

oh he ain't done yet just wait lol

I think this is the 5th time I've seen this comment...

Rhaenys wasn’t testing her luck, she had to turn back because if you don’t kill Vhagar there really is no win. She wanted to make sure she ended Vhagar. She knew the moment she mounted Meleys, it was a suicide mission.

You mean playing Daemon's Souls?

I want him in action, like seriously

Partially true…strategically killing Lucerys at the time didn’t make sense as the war hadn’t escalated to violence yet. It was still the war of ravens. Aemond is no fool and realized what he did but I doubt he regretted killing his nephew. But, by this time, it is a war and all bets are off. He wants power and wants to win. Notice he had a detached/satisfied look after defeating the Red Queen/Rhaenys. Anyone in his way of possibly being the true king are free game.

​@@royaltyblessed2454He admits he feels bad about killing Luke to the whore.

no that was because he wasnt in control and he knew about the consequenses

@@royaltyblessed2454doesn’t he tell the prostitute he was with that he regrets killing his nephew?

No it shows the stupidity of showrunners. In the books aegon and aemond fight alongside at rooks nest.

YES! I was soo happy that we actually got to see well what was going on...I watched s 8 only once and I never wanted to see that again but I watched Dany fighting army of the dead again after this episode and my god...I didnt remember how bad it was...I couldnt see anything and it seemed like writers didnt even have an idea how to write a dragon battle

Actually, Drogon and Rhaegal vs Viserion was more accurate.

@@jlljs what makes a dragon fight accurate?

@@nickram5061 it didn't happen

What accurate? This is fiction. Got s8 had triple the budget of HOTD ​@@jlljs

Lmao

And the Lamborghini boops you when it sees you.

lambo driven smart can actually beat monster truck

It sucks more when one of the monster truck is actually faster than the lambo😊

@@srdshukla4 dont drink and dragon

you could also see him begging meleys to let him go if you pay close attention to his skirmish with meleys.

Felt like a show Labrador being sent to fight a vicious military pitbull.

@@siosinsin7305 Also, it must be Sunfyre's first time on battlefield as Vhagar and Meleys have more experiences. But, the fact he covered his body to protect BBQ Aegon really shows his best effort. Poor guy, but at least he didn't end up like Arrax.

I feel so bad whe dragons die and find It really hard to handle compared to other carachters...the last episode of the first season was the worst though. Lucery's dragon was so scared like a little puppy:(

I've always been kinda sympathetic for Aegon. He's got a lot going for him, and alot going against him. But a point that is DEFINETELY not in his favour is how he has been antagonizing Aemond his whole life. There's a difference between playful banter between brothers, and downright bullying, and Aegon is for sure leaning more towards that end. So no, I'm not too sympathetic for Aegon when it comes to Aemond. But I am sympathetic towards him when it comes to most of the clowns in king's landing, and the two biggest clowns: Alicent and Otto who forced him to become king even when he clearly wasn't suited for it, nor wanted it. Then Alicent had the audacity to scold Aegon for how much was "sacrificed to get him on the throne".

​@@bosspoke I totally agree.

With his own mother abandoning him when he was grieving his son and needed her the most, then this episode where she basically calls him worthless, it's hard not to feel for the guy. He really is trying in his own way. I particularly loved when Sunfyre was brought out of the dragonpit and just head-butted Aegon like a cat and he gets this big smile. It's very humanizing in such a short, silent shot.

I absolutely f*cking hate Alicent in this episode. She failed to raise Aegon, essentially wanted him to be a puppet of Otto's and hers, never taught him a dime and now is blaming him for everything? B¡tch, you had a job to do as his mum and you never passed down any of your knowledge to him because you wanted a malleable doormat to control and shape. Now Aegon ends up as a drunken failure and Alicent thinks she can wash her hands and play victim? She told Rhaenyra last episode "You know what Aemond is" and ??? He's the son you raised or neglected. She told them Rhaenyra would kill them if she ever ascended The Iron Throne. She didn't have any issue looking down with disgust towards the Strong boys. But then, she's offended that Aemond murders Luke. She told Rhaenyra the Targaryens did have queer costumes when she found out she had gone to visit brothels with Daemon, yet forces Helaena and Aegon to marry unhappily. Any time Daeron is mentioned, she dons this constipated look in her face that makes me suppose she's not close or appreciative of him, either. Alicent lovers and apologists are the worst, because they claimed she loved her children is season 1 and I was like... did we even watch the same show? Alicent is there with Cersei when it comes to failed, awful mothers.

I felt bad for him in the book too…he’s just a product of his environment. If his father, Alicent or Otto bothered to actually interact with him, or teach him how to be king he wouldn’t be this way. Instead everyone around him ignored him, used him as a pawn and now tell him what a piece of crap he is because he doesn’t know what he’s doing. His son was just murdered and his mom wouldn’t even comfort him. It’s like Alicent is punishing him for existing, she was quite cruel to him this episode.

Lol reminded me of me and my mother when I was a kid

It also shows that although Jace is kind he's not necessarily very smart. Nrya is already fighting a losing battle being a woman in a position of power. Undermining her in front of the council who already doubt her was a poor decision

​@RobertSawney I wouldn't call that undermining. Besides wanting to go himself, most of what he said was valid. I'm sure the others at the table were going to say it anyways, and I think she took it better since it came from him.

@@Lambothe1st yeah I just think that the council have already tried talking over. She needs to be seen as strong and supported. She wasn't then but I totally get his frustration because her plan to meet Alicent was pretty dumb

@@RobertSawney I agree. And getting into it with her right there with that tone might not have been the best timing. But from his POV, he's been trying to keep these people under control since her absence, so I'm sure that's taking a toll on him too.

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this comment is GOAT

​@@christo4you70 D&D are the type of writers who could read and copy the most meaningful and thematically rich text and their takeaway is "we don't know what this means, but it looks cool!"

ah they not so bad. I got a laugh out of this but i do find it odd that people are so quick to dismiss what they did achieve in GoT. Sure they had source material early on, but translating such an unfilmable story to the screen like they did was impressive. Plus there were plenty of amazing scenes in early GoT that never happened in the books at all. They just got fatigued, complacent and rushed it so they could do something else, which is where their real sin lies.

At least D&D did not have the complete book to get details, house of dragon has no excuse to do this amount of bad writing, book is literally done.

yes , big respect for the actor...he made me feel bad for drunk rapist who likes to watch children fight to death , I really felt bad for him, nobody ever prepared him for this role, he was dragged and forced into it and now hes constantly reminded that he is not good enough , his mother literally telling him "youre good for nothing" ...that must be soo crushing

​@@HK-gm8pe This! ❤

​@@HK-gm8penot only kids fighting, HIS kids fighting

@@HK-gm8pe Considering Condal mentioned he wanted to keep both teams balanced and sympathetic ( he wanted the audience split 50 - 50 between Blacks and Greens ) it is safe to say they don`t consider the ra** or the child fighting as bad or noteworthy, same as how they don`t consider Rhaenys murdering atleast dozens in the Dragonpit as not noteworthy or how they don`t consider Daemon and Rhaenyra killing an innocent guard ( to pass off as Laenor`s corpse ) as noteworthy ( Smallfolk don`t count, applies to onlookers, guards, aswell as servant girls and child gladiators ). Naturally just because the showwriters seem to think like that ( and some weird fans ), the audience doesn`t need to subscribe to that very stupid view. I think they realized they monumentally fucked up with Aegon in the first season ( literally making him joffrey-like ) so they make him far more sympathetic now ( which in some circumstances makes other characters worse... His mother turns into a complete asshole who basically said he needs to be puppet ( and how she treated the death of her grandson ), his brother accidentally killed luke, the guy who took his eye, less than one week ago and now he intentionally tries to kill his brother ). The only way they can somehow fix how they characterized Aegon is by making other characters bash him.. That`s just bad writing. Even if it works, and it does, in making Aegon more sympathetic, he is still a sadistic ra**ist. There is no fixing that. I genuinely wonder what the fuck they were thinking when they wrote that AND then claimed they wanted the audience split 50-50. It`s split 90-10 at best. Just as an example : In season 2 Otto, Alicent, Aemond and a few others just degrade him, in some cases it makes no sense.. Both Otto and Alicent mentioned how good Viserys was.. He wasn`t. We have seen season 1. He was the very reason why the Realm split apart ( Otto even mentioned that very early on in season 1 ). Viserys was indecivise and allowed multiple different characters to take advantage of him ( Otto, Daemon, Corlys and Rhaenyra for example ). He didn`t do anything to achieve peace, he just continued the peace of his predecessor and created a mess. We are seeing the consequences of Viserys mess in this very season 2 and future seasons. Also the reasons given as to why Aegon is king is more bullshittery. The Greens legitimacy comes from the laws of Westeros ( legalism ), while the Blacks legitimacy comes from Viserys naming Rhaenyra heir ( absolutism ) and the war should be about what is considered legitimate. ( and naturally both sides have characters who abuse the legitimate claims. I.e. Otto used the marriage of Alicent with Viserys to produce an heir and scheme, while Daemon married Rhaenyra to gain power afterall ). However this barely gets mentioned and instead we constantly talk about how Alicent misunderstood Viserys last words, so she tries to argue in the same absolutist manner, except with no witnesses ( and as the audience knows, she misheard, so by that virtue Alicent`s reasoning for why Aegon is legitimate is just false.. Whereas in actuality there is a real legitimate issue about who and what decides the successor, is it the word of the King/Queen or is it the law. ) But jeah, no matter what the showrunners try, they can`t undo ra** and child gladiators. Aegon is Joffrey, even if the showrunners didn`t intend this, the only exception is that they make this Joffrey not a coward who runs away from a fight, but someone who tries to prove himself, still a ra**st though and yeah sorry but by extension it becomes impossible to support the Greens. Not only a ra**ist king, but all his supporters are tainted by that association aswell, this isn`t a problem with the Blacks, as Daemon while evil, isn`t the figurehead of the Blacks, so he can be the villain, while not taining Rhaenyra or her supporters. The showrunners dropped the ball so hard it`s unbelievable.

yep his performance is proving to be the star of the season so far...Last season it was easily Paddy as Viserys. Though i'd also say Emma is really killing it as Rhaenyra overall too.

I saw someone comparing him to a poodle, a dragon bred to be beautiful for show, went into a battle with rottweilers D:

I felt so bad for beautiful Sunfyre!!! Those squeals hit me in the heart

@@johndo2761 Also, remember that Sunfyre is still a newbie on that battle as Vhagar is a grandma since she was rode by Visenya while Meleys has more experience on battlefield. So, it's more like a shock therapy to Sunfyre.

@@margarethmichelina5146 true true

bro thought he was going for a walk in the park 😭

For real, Rhaenys was my favorite character in the show. RIP to MY queen 😔

You are right

The attacking army charge was interrupted by a dragon breathing fire on em. The usurper king just 'died' in a spectacular fashion. The other dragon fell on em. Their commander, Sir Cole, was knocked off his horse and got knocked out cold. Soon after the remaining two dragons fought, Vhager vanished. He was not supporting the grunts with the siege. It was only a matter of time before their morale broke. Rhaenys was winning. There was no reason for her to return to the battlefield, especially since she couldnt see the giant dragon that was a massive threat to her. All she had to do was wait, let Vhagar do the next move, she was making things right until she turned back and got herself killed. I mean... cmon... she had the faster dragon. The weather was perfect. We saw the soldier see her come from miles away. We know the skies where clear, meaning Vhagar had nowhere to hide there. She had every advantage. There was no reason for her to be this reckless. Even if her goal was to take down or injure Vhagar at whatever the cost. She simply died like a complete moron. And in doing so, not only she solved the morale problem for the greens infantry, but breached the walls as well. Truly, a great job from her.

Honestly, she also saw Vhaegar crash and probably thought he was injured on the ground which is why she turned back and kept surveying/looking for him for a chance to either finish him off or kill the dragonrider (Aemond) off. You don't get these many chances at getting at him in a vulnerable position and taking out either Vhaegar or Aemond (or both) pretty much ends the war then and there. Aemond dead would mean Vhaegar is riderless and could not be controlled - and the Greens don't have any more spare, dragon-less Targaryens in their camp. Heleana isn't really a warrior so that pretty much just leaves Daeron (their still unrevealed sibling in Oldtown) and his dragon.

Yeah just u. She should have killed everyone during aegon crowing but didnt. Shes the reason the war is lost

Definitely not as good as 1 - 5 GoT.

@@david3551 I would put 6 in that category since the last two episodes of that season are the best 2 of the series imo (and highest IMDb rating). It’s not that BUT it’s close to seasons 1-6. We will see how the rest of the season shakes out but this is fantastic television

Got S5 is mid bro Hotd S1-S2>Got 5-8​@@david3551

@@david3551 Agreed but the source material isn't set up in the same way. I think some of the changes in HOTD are a bit unnecessary but I'm liking the adaptation overall. This was the best episode since S5E10 of GOT.

@@david3551it’s essentially down to the source material. HotD is a slow burner because it’s way harder to adapt due to the way the book is written. Pound for pound the show runners for HotD are definitely doing the better job

Couldn't agree more. The claws dragging and digging into the chest cavities, the biting and ripping, it was so visceral and violent that it felt like real animals fighting

If you haven’t already you should watch the behind the scenes video that HBO dropped on their youtube channel. The CGI and VFX teams based the dragons fighting on how birds of prey fight, with the whole locking talons and biting/scraping each other. I really have a new respect for the episode after watching that video!

@@hannahhudson9335 hell yeah thank you!

fantasy realism ftw that's why lotr is overrated and cannot ever compete

It also successfully shows just how experienced Meleys and Vhagar are in combat. Sunfyre went straight to fire where Meleys displayed a whole dragon strategy. Vhagar is also very cunning and sneaky even with her size she’s able to surprise attack, it left me feeling like I understood the dragons more.

granny Vhaegar just want to nap and bbq dornishmen.

yeah, i thought of it as a sigh of relief.

And not kill her daughter was a plus, she hoped.

@@christianpetersen163 Grandma Vhagar is basically Godzilla on Game of Thrones universe, they wake up, choose violence and too old for their shits.

He was also wearing Valyrian steel armour. Which could have played a part in his survival.

at first I was worried that Sunfyre is just another Syrax but god ....the dragon looks soo damn cute, you just want to cuddle him, not to take him into battle :( hes sounds even are like a little puppy

TGC as Aegon has become my precious baby boy and I don't want anyone to hurt him... and I'm staunchly team black.

Aeg probably my fav too ngl. The actor has grown on me. When he snapped on Larys in this episode I was dying😂

​@@DarkWRLDGmzI'm actually really surprised how much they've made me care about Aegon. At this point he's probably the best written character

Caraxes also must be high af in some Harrenhall woods

@@axOnith he's probably whistling at the trees

Rhaenys is not a legend

@@UncleRuckus2134 she's more than a legend. A fearless dragonrider, warrior, honorable and following duty.

Sorry, but Rhaenys "let's kill some innocents and let's go back to fight a giant dragon so that my dragon and I die for sure" isn't a legend. They really did her character dirty when you ask me

She has been one of my favorite characters from this show. I disagree about her motivation for turning back on Vhagar however. I think she knew it would be tough but not suicide necessarily. I think she probably felt this would be the best chance to take down Aemond that she would get, and she could end the war right there. And hey it almost worked, Aemond could've broken his neck in that fall lol

.......because there was no need for it until now... ?

We did sorta get a dragon battle in the end of season 1. It was brutally one sided, but I guess a battle all the same?

I mean season 1 was basically all backstory into how this war was started

@@raymaxxTV is it not clear that I’m praising the show because of that ??

which volume? the first or the second

I would say it was a bit of a payback from Aemond for the brothel scene in previous episode, as was showing the whole Council that Aegon knows nothing about war or strategy.

But whose fault is that other than his own? Considering we see Aemond speaking fluently it's safe to assume Aegon wasn't forbidden from learning High Valyrian, he just didn't want to do it. And Aemond putting him on the spot wasn't unprovoked as the other commenter pointed out, it was payback for Aegon making fun if him at the brothel.

Aemond was owning him subtly. I'm better than you, brother. Smarter, handsomer, clever, intelligent. You are useless and you are a mumbling buffoon. Aegon was utterly lost.

“I can….has….cheeseburger?” Poor Aegon is so out of his element. It’s hard not to relate to Aegon in that scene especially if you have brothers

He’s reaping what he sow

all done in the wise way of Sir Crist-on of Cole

Aemond is Darmon is Daemon had no soul. For all his darkness he would never betray his brother. Aemond? Oh dear, I unfortunately burned Aegon too. What a shame 🤷

Didn't know that Daemon wanted to be a Valyrian Weeb

@@Crisopeia He did spend half of the first season speaking of Valyrian-Targaryen supremacy, speaking High Valyrian, wearing a FULL VALYRIAN STEEL ARMOR for a tourney, reading Valyrian history in Pentos, spending most of his time tending to dragon eggs instead of his pregnant wife. Dude’s a full weeb. Even married his niece in true Valyrian fashion. Aemond IS Daemon. Even Daemon sees that in his dream.

I feel disappointed the show hasn't mentioned this. Aegon finds himself in his father's shoes now. Either he names his daughter heiress or Aemond takes the crown. I don't think Aegon or Helaena will now be on the position to breed another child.

​@@Winter-Alpha-Omegaperhaps thats were maelor comes in .

If you had a brother that was killed by the enemy and you learned your mother was trying to sue for peace you'd be mad too

The bastard is getting cocky

The writing makes him a pure contrarian.

No? ​@@zedzed5

Very Strong showing

That and not heeding Daemon in fighting Vhagar together. If they killed Granny and Aemond they're essentially taking away the greens biggest advantage against the blacks. We see how Sunfyre fares against Meleys. Helaena ain't gonna ride Dreamfyre because homegirl is grieving and depressed. And Tessarion, Daerons dragon is smaller in comparison to almost every dragon the Blacks have. I think Rhaenys felt personally responsible for not ending this war when she had so many chances to do so. Her children's death and learning about Corlys infidelity (Alyn looks like him) doesn't help either. She was ready to die, but not without a fight. And she went down valiantly in battle with her dragon. What a way to go. If she's gonna die at least it's in the hands of a legendary beast like Vhagar, rather than passing away while sitting on a piss pot.

@@Melodia-ge8ib Is Alyn Corlys son he looks way to old like mid 40s perhaps Corlys little brother or nephew but Addam definitely is Corlys boy maybe Alyn one of Corlys bastards before he got married to Rhaenys during his world tour but Addam is definitely from a bit before Laenors birth and a bit after Laenas birth.

The guilt of not ending the war before it started was the main driving force imo. She regretted not dracarys Aegon and the whole team Green during the coronation and now the war started and thousands will die because she didn't end it earlier. That guilt drove her back for a suicide mission to take down Aemond and Vhagar.

@@melkormorgothbauglir.4848no it makes sense lol, Corlys is a burly dude, it just may not seem like it with their style of clothing. Alyn may seem a bit older but he definitely has the right physique, and does look like him when they stood side by side as they talked to Rhaenys at the port.

@@_Tristen_ It's an actor thing Steve looks to young to be an old Corlys makes sense 10-20 year jump and all also Abubakr Salim is about the same age as Steve to so its more just visuals.

I wouldn't even be mad if Tywin just appeared with absolutely no explanation.

When did Alt Shift X make a cameo?

@@Francis...HE WAS THE HORSE

@sentientmustache8360 I don't get it, I'm sorry. I only watched a couple of videos of him recently. That's how I know him.

@@Francis... i think the joke is no one knows who alt shift x is (but i could be wrong lol)

Aside from the 3rd Episode lol

@@carsonmiller4982 honeymoon phase

​@@maylabrown4584 third episode was fine, it set up a lot of things for the strory to come

@@edsp666 Lol no it wasn't. The Septa scene was one of the stupidest moments in the entire Show being rivalled by the Episode in Season 1 where a bunch of innocents were killed at random for no reason by the "Queen who never was". Easily the worst part of Season 2 by far, then in that same episode you had the whole pointless dragon chase scene, time that could have been spent towards oh yknow *the Bracken vs Blackwood Fight???*

@@maylabrown4584”I didn’t see what I wanted to see so the episode sucked”

youre right, but it just makes absolutely no sense for vhagar to be a stealthy ambush predator. shes the biggest dragon alive by a mile.

@@Jackerco That's fair enough, but there's precedent for it, even in GRRM's writing, The Mountain defeating Oberyn being a great example.

@@PrincipalSkinner3190the mountain won because oberlyn got cocky and underestimated the mountain’s strength. Vhagar could be stealthy in season 1 hiding in the clouds at night, but her jumpscaring off a cliff side makes little sense when the earlier shots showed how long it takes vhagar to build momentum getting into the air. It makes her look more threatening, but is kinda playing fast and loose with consistency

@@l3R0K3N8BIT Rhanys also clearly got cocky flying back into battle before confirming Vhagar's whereabouts... you have the right to nitpick its realism, but it's a stretch to act like the scene was outlandish within the context of the show.

It’s a teleporting dragon. GoT has a habit of adding teleporting powers randomly. Did it for Arya when she teleported past a zombie army for a death blow and now the biggest dragon being able to teleport.

It’s fucking stupid. You can’t hide something that big. They were just trying to shock people, even when it was obvious what was about to happen.

it is pretty surprising though, she's a massive dragon... how does rhaenys, who's the more experienced rider, AND meleys who has her fair share of experience, lose vhagar? doesn't really make sense to me

@@nickcouture6406 well she rhaenys was the one that kept going on the offensive.

@@nickcouture6406 The battlefield was field with smoke that time, thus giving Vhagar a chance to hide behind the walls of the castle, and it is clear that Rhaenys was a bit disoriented after the battle with both Sunfyre and Vhagar so she failed to take into account the clear disadvantage that flying over possible hideouts presents. I'm still surprised that Vhagar with her massive wings was a silent flyer, that's the part that kinda doesn't make sense to me.

Yeah but in an open field on a clear day, there is only one obvious place she could be.

okay that's some deep dragon-riding lore right here

Thats a lot of lore you had to create for an explanation though. The show just did not do a good job of making this scenario believable. The ambush was unnecessary anyway its not like vhagar could not have won a straight 1v 1 battle anyway.

​@@Userkiller3814 Vhagar probably would've lost that ngl, Meraxes, despite being tired was definitely going to win there.

@@Userkiller3814 I’m not going to argue with you about whether the show did a good job, frankly, because I don’t care how you feel about that in particular. However, Vhagar was canonically the smallest of the conqueror’s dragons, and so I gave my opinion on the show’s portrayal of Rook’s Rest using that as a basis. I did not “create lore,” I merely gave my opinion on the lore George created and gave my thoughts on how that might relate to the show’s portrayal of Vhagar. Many dragons could win a fair fight against Vhagar, regardless of her size, and in fact due the very size that makes her such a threat. If you haven’t read the source material, I won’t spoil it for you, but it’s made pretty obvious by George that 1v1 duels between dragons don’t necessarily favor the largest one by some large margin, so using stealth and ambush to ensure a single, fatal blow is simply the smarter way to win.

@@IzzyAndAndyI 100% agree with you. They’re George R R Martin’s creation, so he decides what’s what. He said in an interview that the 2 most powerful dragons are Vhagar (size / strength / experience) and Caraxes (intelligence / ferocity / experience). He also points out that Meleys can comfortably out pace both of them. It was totally believable that she would hurl Vhagar to the floor, because you can see her using speed to evade Vhagar’s clutches as they’re tumbling down. It’s also believable that Vhagar would’ve perfected a stealth attack as she’s 181 years old, and a battle hardened dragon with unmatched experience who has been specifically bred for war.

Maybe Cole was loyal because he made him hand

He’s not dead

yup, Aegon is a really tragic character.

@@Trashpanda887y I hope not because that'll ruin one of the best moments yet to come

And I’m pretty sure Cole only cares because it’s part of his hate boner for Rhaenyra.

yup

Thank you someone else said it! So many big land and ocean predators use stealth as their main tactic. The whole caveman thinking of "Vhagar big, can't hide" is so dumb and not thought out at all. It's like these people have never been around animals. Look at any predator that hunts smaller, quicker prey... and what would you know THEY ALL USE STEALTH. My cat uses stealth to hunt mice but apparently it makes no sense with a dragon🙄

But vaghar is the size of a 747 hard to miss that ​@@nicolasmartinez795

Yall be forgetting that Rhaenys and her dragon had the high ground. You’re talking about land animals. Birds of prey are fast so they don’t use stealth usually. Vaghar is way too big to hide behind anything, it was under Maelys and her dragon when it jumped out and it should be way slower than the smaller dragon which, it is, most of the time. Takes 3 business days to just leave the ground lol

@@LadyIronHeart fr fr

Trust me , she wasn't

Nah grandma Vhagar wanted smoke

They were family and the fact that Vhagar was ridden by Baelon the Brave and Meleys was ridden by his wife Alyssa, as some point they flew together back then 😢

where did you get THAT idea? :D:D Vhagar is probably the only dragon that doesnt give a s*it.... also dragons basically become their riders trough the magic bond....so Vhagar is basically Aemond in a dragons body, if you look Vhagars history aswell then you see hat this dragon has a certain type when choosing her riders... she has always been a battle hungry dragon , only dragon that I would literally call an evil b*tch :D

When Grandma vhagar sleeps, she dreams only of war.

but aegon is misunderstood, naive even.

I agree with this take, when aegon showed up he seemed disappointed when he said “idiot”

because he is naive.

I didn’t think about the fact that Rhaenys could have stopped the war in the first place, but I do think you’re right about that playing a part in her turning around to fight when odds weren’t in her favir

I also think that her whole life has been a behind character, from not getting the crown, trying to avoid a war when she could have finished it there and then at the dragon pit, finding out her husband had bastards, her house not having an official heir due to her husband being stubborn and having little to no respect from the blacks small council aswell as just getting on a bit with age, she’s probaly had enough and doesn’t want to continue with the war

@@AemondOneEye but why is Aegon building a statue for Aemond later, after all that?

@@JaxonFarquhar-fg4gz the odds was in her favor. it was now a 1v1 with aemond. rhaenys was the most experience dragon rider and meleys and vhaegar use to fly together. She rhaenys would have won if she knew where they were hiding.

yeah... this reminded my of that time when Daenerys got one of her dragons killed by a surprised balista in the face from a hidden ship in the open seas in broad daylight.

Nah that was episode 2

Do we have context on that line? :D

They gotta stop doing the vhagar jump scares how hard Isit to see a leviathan lol

@@BobbyFlay14 Seriously, they should've just had Vhagar run Meleys down when she tried to return to Dragonstone. Would've been more believable and could've shown the terror in Rhaenys's face as she realized her fate.

@@damatar No that would have been much less believable, Vhagar’s size and age makes her quite slow, while Meleys is one of the fastest dragons currently alive right now. An ambush was the only way Vhagar was going to outpace Meleys.

@@BobbyFlay14 You’d be surprised how a leviathan could hide itself.

​@@damatarexcept Meleys only has 2 defining traits. 1: Red 2: FASTEST DRAGON

so dull. Even her face when she was falling to her death was bland

Yes. She is dull.

@@sanna8300Dont mistake stoic for dull. Its hella emotion behind all the words she says and glares she gives. And her story is hella sad as well.

@@skoolboydes6680 being stoic is being dull i'd say. She might have "hella emotion" but since her first appearance she's been too wrapped up in duty and knowing her place, which yes make her effectively kinda dull. I wish they had just one scene of her letting loose a bit but overall none of that means her character was less likeable though. I'll defo miss her.

They are watching the same show yes. But through a combination of having poor media literacy and more importantly not finding the actress who plays Rhaenys sexually attractive, they think she’s dull.

People are weird. They identify with some aspect of a person/group and then use that person/group for self actualization. It turns criticism into personal attacks and blinds people to nuance of the story being told cause they fill in any blanks with their own thoughts and experiences. People can't just watch a show anymore. Very sad.

People are dumb. Nothing new there. Same groups of people probably think Daemon is a good person just because he's hot.

​@LiamPowelluuu2 I thought it's been made clear since 2011 that there is not a single good person in the Game of Thrones universe but apparently people still make heroes out of these clearly nuanced multilayered characters.

I blame the show for this narrative of passivism equals wisdom, inaction and being indecisive is just as bad as being reckless and too rash , not wanting to fight is perfectly responsible but when it's time to throw down you have to throw down this is something the book version of the blacks understood, the moment Luke died the time for talking was over .

@theguardian2428 Well that's obvious bullshit, you'll have a hard time explaining why Shireen isn't a good person.

Yes it was so great to see it from common folk perspective. And that fearless castle lord who had cajones of steel.

IIRC it was kinda vague. like the people on the ground couldn't tell what was happening

Black council is sit down talk and do nothing 3 episodes THREE could be four with the season 1 but Daemon MAKES SOMETHING REASONABLE lmao

Agreed. The Greens are just far more interesting overall as is their dynamics with one another.

To me, he looked like he fell close to the tree line, which may have offered some protection

I gathered he got knocked out after the bulk of the burning occurred.

He was knocked off his horse (which died). The ground impact combined with the weight of his armor knocked him out temporarily.

@@alexman378 I don't have a problem with him being knocked out, it is possible that the burned people were there already when he was knocked out, I'llhave to watch it again

checked it again, there are people alive and not burning running around him right before he is knocked out, there are no trees around him when he wakes up

That sounds so obvious now that you say it!! Not to mention, Vhagar’s knack for camouflage is established before the battle. Makes sense to me!

@@thatkidwiththehoodie Vhagar is also color green, so yeah she can blend in easily with the greenery.

​@@baron6588 Exactly, I mean there was literally a scene of her rising beneath the forest floor. It looks like she can blend right in with the boulders and foliage of the surrounding area. Some big predators are not as fast as their prey, so they resort to using the element of surprise and Vhagar really reminds me of a crocodile.

Who was winning when she decided to turn back? The dudes whose kings just fell from the sky?

@@Melodia-ge8ib she’s actually kind of the perfect shade of green to blend into a smoky field/forest. Also fun fact, crocodiles aren’t green. They’re a variety of blacks, whites, browns, greys and yellows. The green look comes from a mix of the light, the murky water and the algae that gets between their scales.

yeah me too it felt kinda dumb not gonna lie

@@artursakis8668 agree. They could've came to the same ending without the cheesy sneak attack from the cliffs. I'm gonna venture a guess and say budget for the individual episode brought us to that ending, perhaps 🤷

That's what I was thinking too, out of anyone there he's the most likely to understand. It would also make sense since we see a Maester teaching Jace Valyrian at one point. It stands to reason Orwyle might've had to do the same for the Black's children before he was Grand Maester.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Larys understood it

Some maesters can understand high valyrian, but not all of them. So, we can't know for sure.

@@Horacio_Poggi One would assume the King's Grand Maester would, but Orwyle has the good sense to keep his head down

​@@Horacio_Poggi Grandmeister is pretty likely to speak it in this time. Would be kind of wild for them not to

What about Glimby&Schrifty?

It's not an opinion. Just a criticism of the shot.

Then you havent watched the trailer for the next episode

He's alive.

Aemond was going towards his brother with his sword in hand until Cole came. If he wanted to ease the dragons suffering, Cole wouldnt stop him.

she Was trying to go back, you’re correct, i don’t see how that wasn’t clear to some people? she was looking down over the land she just burned and was obviously done doing damage at that point, but her escape was cut off by vhagar. if she wanted to continue attacking i feel like she would’ve just kept burning the land to make sure as many men (and especially criston) was dead, but instead of doing that she was fleeing towards the sea

...she didnt expect him to be there? Really? In the place where she saw him last? You really dont see how moronic that is of her? Lets think for a moment, we know how ruthless the court is with its intrigues. She made a play for the throne and lost. She ruled the trident. She should be competent. She should by now have years of expecting the unexpected. Especially in a life and death situation.

@@mac19999x i am not going to argue the logic behind it. I can see several flaws in HOTD so far and this may be one of them. Vhagar is a fucking giant and she just hid behind a castle and Meyles didn't see her ? I agree with you, it is moronic but oh well ..... I am looking forward to THE dragon battle which is coming next. Not going to spoil just in case but it should be epic

I mean is it a change? In the book Aemond uses Aegon as bait for the blacks. Aemond is happy to use Aegon as a chew toy for Meleys. Then Vhagar descends on Meleys and Sunfyre. Causing Sunfyre to crash in a ball of flame. He might not have purposely done it but he was fine if Aegon was collateral damage. Aemond knew the best thing for team green was if he was in charge.

@@J_ads2000 It was more ambiguous as you described. He didn't just outright order the dragon to open fire on his brother, they almost made it seem like he wanted to take his brother out as much as he did Rhaenys in the show.

I thought she was turning back for another attack when Vhagar stealth attacked. That's what I saw anyway. I figure it had more to do with her, having already lost most of what she holds dear. Her children are both dead. She had recently met proof of her husbands extra marital affairs, and Laenas twins are pretty much grown. I saw a woman with nothing left lose.

Rhaenys should have listened to Daemon instead of acting like a wise old sage, who’s every advice led to disaster.