Hour-Long SHORT Repair In a 1973 Williams SPACE LAB Pinball Machine - Sparks And Fuses!

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Жыл бұрын

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@charlesclark2917
@charlesclark2917 Жыл бұрын
"People, you can't have the bumper rub the...cmon, people. There's a wire right there and...People! I mean , just look at the..." That was a great find to capture on camera. The solder blob on the relay was just the cherry on the top.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade Жыл бұрын
Thank you Charles, I try to make them entertaining :) See you on the next one!
@marchafb
@marchafb Жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to document this repair. This is actually my friend’s machine you worked on, as he sent me the link to both videos. I live too far away to have been any help to them plus I have never worked on an EM machine. I have restored several machines from the 80's on up, but after your video the EM's don't look too hard at all. When you moved the coil, I immediately saw the wires move and you could see some ARC marks on the trip pin. Again - great job on the troubleshooting and explanations!
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching marchafb! It was a fun one to work on, hope it gives them many years of fun!
@mfranzusan3014
@mfranzusan3014 Жыл бұрын
Everyone knows you don't swap a 10A fuse for a 50A... they will blow eventually too. You use a ¼" bolt! C'mon people, you want to burn up loads you gotta mean business! Lol. Thanks for the upload, Ron and Joe
@MrRTVtech
@MrRTVtech Жыл бұрын
The purpose of the capacitor in the dc line of the rectifier is to flatten the ac ripple which is left after rectifying, so you get a more stable DC voltage.
@eDoc2020
@eDoc2020 Жыл бұрын
Normally yes but here I'm not sure. The capacitor is small and the load is large so it won't do much to the ripple. I'd guess it's to protect the rectifier voltage spikes.
@andymouse
@andymouse Жыл бұрын
I always wondered if wiring faults could get out into the wild from factory and now I've seen one ! 50 years on easy mode Lol....cheers.
@guymanicone7921
@guymanicone7921 10 ай бұрын
My 74 Williams Star Pool just conked out. Watching your videos of similar machines gain some insight on where to start.
@simondempsey1
@simondempsey1 Жыл бұрын
Fancy that, all those years of being wrong straight from Williams with that blob of solder I stayed with it and found it very interesting how you followed the schematics. Well done!
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade Жыл бұрын
We try to keep it interesting!
@lurkersmith810
@lurkersmith810 Жыл бұрын
I used to play Skylab a lot back in 1977, and I remember it because on ours, the tilt didn't work, so you could have your way with the machine and rack up replays for hours. They eventually pulled it, no doubt because it wasn't earning the quarters it should have. (Ya think?) It wasn't nearly as popular after they fixed the tilt! Thanks for the memories!
@ray73864
@ray73864 Жыл бұрын
All the haters out there that keep telling you not to use files on the contacts, etc... I note that at the 12m 30s mark when you were testing stuff, the big sticker up there specifically said that if the bumpers weren't working, you were to use a 'point file' to clean them and create the necessary gap :) So it looks like Williams is on your side :D Love your work, Ron!
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade Жыл бұрын
Don't you understand Ray, couch potatoes know more than *(checks notes) THE ENGINEERS WHO BUILT IT
@robertlipsett2535
@robertlipsett2535 Жыл бұрын
@@LyonsArcade true but the engineers didn't expect the game to last for 50 years. people who are adverse to file may have used it so often that they destroyed the contacts or the believe the train of though that it would remove the tougher contact coating and expose a baser material.
@warwickhand9722
@warwickhand9722 Жыл бұрын
Your videos are so helpful in me understanding how to read schematics,,, thank you from australia!!
@jasonsteverson4609
@jasonsteverson4609 Жыл бұрын
Hey Ron!! The opposite of honor is offer. Because you're either honor or offer. Genius in my head!!
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade Жыл бұрын
That is a very good point! This is a new world Jason, us troglodytes are going to have to stop saying stuff like that eventually :)
@roryvonbrutt7302
@roryvonbrutt7302 Жыл бұрын
@@LyonsArcade ''NOT'' not ever‼️®️™️
@naytch2003
@naytch2003 Жыл бұрын
Honor..offer..behyndah..😉
@markjackson1444
@markjackson1444 Жыл бұрын
Great work working out why the fuses were blowing. Pinball collectors are a strange breed. …When there’s anything on the playfield the cry is “it’s too cluttered”. …When there’s an open playfield, then the cry is “there’s nothing to shoot for”. …. It’s like “You open the door and the flies come in, you close the door and you’re sweating again”. …. Great work as usual Ronnie.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade Жыл бұрын
Mark I always think about that Beatles song "Rain".... "When the rain comes, they run and hide their head.... when the sun shines, they slip into the shade"
@markjackson1444
@markjackson1444 Жыл бұрын
Ain’t that the truth.
@kepler240
@kepler240 10 ай бұрын
4:41 Seeing a short blow a fuse in the same shot is pretty damn cool.
@JohnEricBooth
@JohnEricBooth Жыл бұрын
I had a Liberty Bell recently where someone prior had twisted the pair together that trips the play counter and within moments of firing up a game, "pop"... blowing a fuse. I finally found it!
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade Жыл бұрын
That'll do it every time, the quickest way to find it is usually look for what looks like somebody else has worked on it :)
@Ren_G.
@Ren_G. Жыл бұрын
Awesome schematic detective work as always!👏👏👏
@b00573d
@b00573d Жыл бұрын
Come on people...that fuse blowing was spectacular!
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade Жыл бұрын
It was amazing!
@naytch2003
@naytch2003 Жыл бұрын
It's called voyeurism people. tsk tsk..yall should be ashamed 😁😆
@pezjohnson
@pezjohnson Жыл бұрын
"some of you may have liked it" 😆. Good series of videos. Glad you were able to work through the short. Maybe me wanna take another try at my Night Rider that I haven't got to, yet.
@irieman442
@irieman442 Жыл бұрын
Lots of open space on that playfield.(Theres a joke in there somewhere) It's interesting how they made a completely different game out of a previously designed game. Change the artwork and call it a day. Somebody had a boss that said they had to put out X number of new titles a year. The engineers were like we are one short on our bonus, and there are only three weeks left.
@carlstanland5333
@carlstanland5333 Жыл бұрын
Have you ever said “Here’s the kicker!” and it really WAS the kicker?
@_JellyDonut_
@_JellyDonut_ Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for doing this Ron, I really enjoyed the videos. It was a long, slow drive down to Charleston but we managed to get her back to the house without any issues. I haven't been able to beat your high score though! Like a true pinball wizard, you've got such a supple wrist 🧙‍♂Thanks again for getting us squared away 👍Come on people, like and subscribe!
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade Жыл бұрын
Thank you Jelly Donut it was fun to work on!
@AvengerII
@AvengerII Жыл бұрын
"Houston -- we have a problem!" Sorry... Couldn't resist!
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade Жыл бұрын
It's one of those things everybody should drag out every once in awhile :)
@AvengerII
@AvengerII Жыл бұрын
@@LyonsArcade Well, it's better than HAL saying, "Ron, I've detected a malfunction in the AE-35 unit. Could you go out in an EVA pod and check this out for us?" That never ends well for the astronaut or technician!
@tgfcujhb7583
@tgfcujhb7583 Жыл бұрын
You should have said mickrrrrfarad as there was no ohhh 😁👍👍👍
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade Жыл бұрын
LOL
@MRNBricks
@MRNBricks Жыл бұрын
I got a Darling last year. After seeing cow complicated the captive ball deal is, I’m kinda scared of it and kinda want to tackle it lol. The same time. 😂
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade Жыл бұрын
It’s not too big of a deal you can handle it
@imjabroni1
@imjabroni1 Жыл бұрын
I saw it! I wanted to yell at ya, It's hittin' the wires! I see bare wire! You got it. The capacitor smooths out the rough DC power from the bridge and gives you a higher average voltage, allowing a nice, strong kick from your coils. Can I come by and hang out while you work on some games?
@mediterraneanmudcake6570
@mediterraneanmudcake6570 Жыл бұрын
I like the line turn it on and look for smoke .I always called it MANUFACTURES SMOKE and the bad thing is you can't ever put it back in .
@naytch2003
@naytch2003 Жыл бұрын
Its like that ol Alabama song..if you're gonna fix ya pinball..ya gotta have a Ronnie in the band..😉
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade Жыл бұрын
Yup ! Didn't Jeff play it? R.I.P. Jeff!
@naytch2003
@naytch2003 Жыл бұрын
@@LyonsArcade Jeff was the man!!
@naytch2003
@naytch2003 Жыл бұрын
@@LyonsArcade We have a country music band called The Warratahs..they ain't too bad
@Solitaire1
@Solitaire1 Жыл бұрын
It is interesting to see what the short turned out to be. I used to work on aircraft and there have been a few times I had to do similar troubleshooting that ended up with the same kind of thing. Though we didn't use electrical tape for repairs (*ahem*) I think I played a Skylab in my parent's bowling lanes. I distinctly remember that U feature. I probably had to stand on a wood box to be high enough to play it back then.
@Mekazas
@Mekazas Жыл бұрын
You can see the arc damage on that metal rod that contacted the wire. There's your problem.
@robertlipsett2535
@robertlipsett2535 Жыл бұрын
the most evil thing that ever happened to me finding a short was having a sharp solder point slip between the cloth insulation of a wire that was running inside a bundle by a light socket in a back box
@user-de9ks7so5m
@user-de9ks7so5m 7 ай бұрын
I just picked up a sky lab! The stepper unit in the top left is super screwed up and I’m kinda at a loss😅 the spider is in the wrong position and I just can’t get it to work
@PlumGurly
@PlumGurly Жыл бұрын
Honorarium. I think that is the word you meant for titles and suffixes for someone's name. That cap is just filtering the DC coming out. While it helps with filtering, that shouldn't cause a short if it is missing.
@buddyweiz
@buddyweiz Жыл бұрын
Ron should also add some superlatives in the mix!
@brianangel8201
@brianangel8201 Жыл бұрын
In general most circut breakers can be similer to a slow-blow fuse because they need to heat up before triping or blowing.
@TheJimbodean67
@TheJimbodean67 Жыл бұрын
My experience with those type of breakers is they get weak after popping a few times and won’t hold their rated amp draw.
@MrButtonpresser
@MrButtonpresser Жыл бұрын
Nice diagnosis there, have you considered doing this for a job? ; )
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade Жыл бұрын
No I'm an Amateur
@davidhollfelder9940
@davidhollfelder9940 Жыл бұрын
The schematic shows micrfarad .. that “is” misspelled 😊 (hiding in the weeds) …
@donsurlylyte
@donsurlylyte Жыл бұрын
"honorifics" i think is the word you were looking for
@Pauls-World
@Pauls-World Жыл бұрын
I have that pinball machine but mine is called Skylab. What’s up with that?
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade Жыл бұрын
You must have another one called Skylab
@Pauls-World
@Pauls-World Жыл бұрын
@@LyonsArcade Learn something new every day. I guess its kinda like the nascar and Dale jr pinball machines. Keep up the good work. Thank you for sharing your videos.
@lileveretteyoakumiii
@lileveretteyoakumiii Жыл бұрын
Yodelayheehoo
@MrClickbang357
@MrClickbang357 Жыл бұрын
I think the word you're looking for is accolades!
@waynegram8907
@waynegram8907 Жыл бұрын
JOES CLASSIC, I'm confused on what the Captive Ball relay is dictating and controlling other relays like the Skylab relay and the Rocket Special Relay are referenced and being controlled by the Captive ball relay it seems for some reasons why? Do you know in general for other pinball games what the captive ball relay is doing to the other relays in the Loop?
@thesegafreak1216
@thesegafreak1216 Жыл бұрын
Honorable mentions?
@randycarter2001
@randycarter2001 Жыл бұрын
It holds over from ball to ball simply because they can't reset it. Its current state is its current state. And it can't be changed with an electrical signal. 3 balls on the left, you just have to deal with it.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade Жыл бұрын
Of course they could reset it, they reset it on Jubilee (which I showed in the video)
@stevenmoffitt1643
@stevenmoffitt1643 3 ай бұрын
You like to buy from places that pay a living wage.
@udokampfinger6374
@udokampfinger6374 Жыл бұрын
I've always found it hard on the lips when I blow a fuse.
@piratestation69
@piratestation69 Жыл бұрын
Adjectives???
@LyonsArcade
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