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@whycreate7 ай бұрын
Who's Axel?
@aengusog34157 ай бұрын
Game of thrones like to invent random names for some reason. The same way viserys invented dragon names in the bathtub scene
@brigidscott43737 ай бұрын
Lol
@arfathedreamer-nz8cq7 ай бұрын
I am a fan of your channel from Thailand. I would like you to add a Thai audio track to the clips on this channel. For a better understanding of the content in the clip. and to add more followers from Thailand as well. Thank you.
@cherylbaxter89866 ай бұрын
I remember Ned saying that name when going through the Name Book
@tereza19597 ай бұрын
I love the irony that the Targaryen history begins with Baratheons as their friends and Martells as their enemies, and ends with the Baratheins as their enemies and Martells as their friends 😂
@brodyday65097 ай бұрын
Moral of the story whoever breeds the dragon gets the dragon
@SaltoDaKid7 ай бұрын
Baratheon story much larger specially the lore (which their video narrative by Robert and Stannis) as he only started from the Aegon Conquest.
@brodyday65097 ай бұрын
@@SaltoDaKid I’m still holding out that Stannis is the third dragon head
@cureforintroversion12627 ай бұрын
I would use the term “friends” very loosely. The Martells weren’t exactly fond of the Mad King
@philippeblais85947 ай бұрын
@@cureforintroversion1262 True. And the only reason that the Martells supported the Targaryens during Robert's Rebellion was because Aerys had Princess Elia at King's Landing. And threatened to harm her should Dorne not support the crown.
@Bigwes51507 ай бұрын
“Ours is the Fury” I like how every Baratheon has either a fury, impulsive, and outspoken trait.
@BODYBAGxPAT7 ай бұрын
Except for Renly, who was more curious then furious
@zawarudo68057 ай бұрын
@@BODYBAGxPATRenly's fury was a dull one, fed with his ambition and blind faith in his allies and bannermen.
@danielsantiagourtado34307 ай бұрын
Everything started so well with Orys and Aegon, aside from beign half brothers, were truly best friends
@concentrated91297 ай бұрын
Yeah after Orys i don’t think there was any Baratheon close to Targaryens , just after Orys died Rogar Baratheon ruined the relationship and i don’t think it got any better than that .
@michaelmoon34297 ай бұрын
I wish they also could've explored a bit of Tywin and Steffon's relationship. The three of them Tywin Steffon and the Mad King spent their youths together after all. And it's not really explored what happened between Steffon and Tywin after the latter resigned as hand
@bcurtis7857 ай бұрын
That's the extra history we need. Maybe Stannis got some more Insights
@jaylanddrakeford7 ай бұрын
Always wondered how the Baratheon & Targaryen family’s started out so close then suddenly became mortal enemies. Very insightful
@Lumistrocity7 ай бұрын
It was a slower divorce, aegon 5th daughter was to marry a baratheon but bailed on the betrothal causing a baratheon to rebel
@eons89417 ай бұрын
@Lumistrocity it was a son who was supposed to marry a baratheon after the Baratheons rebelled they were given a targaryen bride who was Robert baratheon's grandmother
@Miuranger17 ай бұрын
@@Lumistrocity actually it was a son who refused but the baratheons got a daughter in rhaelle which is better. Hopefully rhaelle bloodline lives on
@Divine_Chareka7 ай бұрын
Rhaenyra should've sent Rhaenys to win the support of Storms End.
@cureforintroversion12627 ай бұрын
But Borros pretty much said he didn’t care about her, unless the goal was for Rhaenys to scare Borros with her dragon. But then she’d still lose against Aemond and Vhagar
@nathanielartosilla91107 ай бұрын
@@cureforintroversion1262 Meleys could be a match for Vhagar the same way Caraxes was. The only reason Meleys lost was because it was a 2v1 fight against Vhagar and Sunfyre and even then she took Sunfyre down with her.
@danika94117 ай бұрын
@@nathanielartosilla9110 Tbh I don't think (show!) Aemond would have attacked Rhaenys. He attacked Luce because of loosing his eye and years later he still laughed at him. Rhaenys had nothing to do with that, so he might not have attacked.
@maggyfrog4 ай бұрын
well, this is all because we have the luxury of hindsight. i don't think there was any prior reason why rhaenyra would assume that borros wouldn't honor his predecessor's fealty to rhaenyra, which is precisely why she assumed this to be an easy bag for sweet luke to take home, AND he gets to go on an official mission that's very close to dragonstone. it just all seemed like an easy W for the blacks at the time.
@higharchbishopofteatasting62174 ай бұрын
@@nathanielartosilla9110I get where you're coming from but it wouldn't come to a straight dragon fight. It'd be more about the intimidation factor of having a fully adult dragon, and while maeleys is powerful and fast, vhagar is just severely more intimidating to a lord, be it from the sheer size alone, or the history of the dragon literally burning half the continent to conquer it. I still think Storms End would go with the greens due to this.
@thalmoragent93447 ай бұрын
That moment when you realize House Baratheon is just House Targaryen under a different name. They're basically just dark haired Targaryens, due to Orys being a bastard of Aerion Targaryen.
@truetory62317 ай бұрын
I think the Baratheons are actually the Durrandons under another name. Except for Orys himself, every other Baratheon can trace thier lineage directly back to the Storm Kings thanks to Argella. And besides that the House also uses Argella's house sigil and house words as thier own, symbolisms that Orys himself did not have as a bastard Targaryen.
@tereza19597 ай бұрын
They are more Durrandon than Targaryen, they have the blue eyes of their Durrandon ancestors
@craftyunicorn42916 ай бұрын
To add more reading the history of Durrandons it seems that the trait of being impulsive,energetic,passionate and short tempered actually comes from the Durrandons.
@hrishikeshms18915 ай бұрын
It's only a rumour that Orys is a Targaryen basterd it's not proved 💯💯
@obsidian007 ай бұрын
I've always liked House Baratheon...they're big, they're loud and they're a bunch of Badasses! "Ours Is The Fury!"
@johndinobuff5837 ай бұрын
Oh. You'll love how Borros will turn out in HOTD
@castafioreomg4 ай бұрын
Better than stupid ass Starks!
@georgebella3139Ай бұрын
14:59 we tÀQÀAÀ@@johndinobuff583
@user-dv9lb7gp7x7 ай бұрын
I didn't ask for this, no more than I asked to be king. We do not choose our destiny. But we must do our duty, great or small we must do our duty. Greatest baratheon ever🦌
@KnightofGondor6717 ай бұрын
Stannis the Mannis
@obsidian007 ай бұрын
I would KILL for a young Robert and Ned series...
@cureforintroversion12627 ай бұрын
Maybe much like the Lannisters from earlier in the series, Borros just wanted dragons in the family? He did offer Lucaerys an alliance in exchange for a marriage
@ryanforbes81927 ай бұрын
I hated the fact the writers in HOTD aren’t showing female nature like how the books did. Like Alicent being a bitch but still honorable woman and Rhaenyra being a lying and scheming woman. Or how the Baratheon sister instigated Aemond to attack jace, women are master manipulators they shouldn’t shy away from that fact to make the to lead women look good give us the real shit like how they did with Cersei
@AnarchoCatBoyEthan7 ай бұрын
what the fuck, lol women are people. I think assigning them “master manipulators” as a whole is pretty disgusting.
@nathanielartosilla91107 ай бұрын
Because we live in current year and portraying women as anything other than badass girlbosses is frowned upob.
@maggyfrog4 ай бұрын
i suppose you missed the entire part where they keep mentioning how rhaenyra's 3 kids are STRONG kids and her denying this to the death. or that alicent always knew that it's her father's prime goal to get her to have targ babies to compete with rhaenyra. i mean, did you even watch the show at all? wasn't it alicent who insisted to have luke's eye be taken out, as in an eye for an eye? and even early on, young rhaenyra lied through her teeth about that encounter with daemon in the pleasure house. alicent also clearly doesn't love his son aegon, but she will clean up his f*uck ups like giving moon tea to the serving girl he graped, because she now took it upon herself to make him as presentable as possible to be future king. and rhaenyra, just imagine acting all nice to the velaryons for years knowing well that they all know those babies aren't laenor's, and the only reason they haven't publicly declared against her is because the lie also protects laenor. i mean, if those aren't manipulators, i don't understand what kind of manipulators you're looking for. george didn't exactly write cersei 2.0 in fire and blood, and it's quite lazy writing if that's what you're looking for.
@tatumgallahair77294 ай бұрын
@@nathanielartosilla9110if anything they made Alicent less of a ‘girl boss’ she went from having her own agency and actively scheming to put Aegon on the throne to being a young scared girl who was forced to marry an old man and as an adult she does everything in the name of protecting her children, not promoting her families status
@isabelbarranco70557 ай бұрын
Sweet irony Daemon wanted to genocide House Baratheon and Lannisters on the Dance to in the end,those Houses will be the one which annihilate Targaryen line.
@thetalesofelbek70427 ай бұрын
Well they didn’t annihilate at all. Jon and DAny are still alive and soon will be super powerful, especially DAny.
@johndinobuff5837 ай бұрын
Not only Daemon, but lord Cregan Stark as well. He wanted to punish all who betrayed Rhaenyra.
@zaja24187 ай бұрын
@@johndinobuff583 *Cregan Stark:* House Baratheon must be destroyed. *Eddard Stark:* Robert Baratheon is my man-crush.
@Miuranger17 ай бұрын
@@thetalesofelbek7042both are infertile actually. House lannister is endless with tywin nephews and nieces and baratheon has bastards
@goldenlockxАй бұрын
and the true Aegon VI in the books (young griff)@@thetalesofelbek7042
@danielsantiagourtado34307 ай бұрын
The Best baratheon will always be Orys
@matztz_45606 ай бұрын
Lyonel>>>>>> Stannis>>>>>> Robert>>>>>>
@davidringmann33957 ай бұрын
Are the Baratheon genes the crazy one's or those of the Durrandons? We are not to forget that when Orys killed Argilac the latter's daughter Argella was just as ferosious as her father, as much as she had to be betrayed by her own garrison in oder to give up Storm's End to Orys and marry him afterwards.
@craftyunicorn42916 ай бұрын
Not only crazy genes but dark hair genes, blue eyed genes, strong stature genes all too seems to come from Durrandons.
@Uzair_Of_Babylon4657 ай бұрын
Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁👍
@Spongebrain977 ай бұрын
Roger Baratheon and Jaehaerys have such a cool and neat relationship in F&B
@liamdenise2467 ай бұрын
Be Targaryen Bethrothed to baratheon, agreed upon and with kings permission. Don't do it, go for weird witch instead. Baratheon angry, rebel and try to kill targ. Much later Targaryen bethrothed to baratheon, breaks it again for some random girl. Baratheon angry and rebel again, try to kill targ. Be son of mad targ king who everyone is this close to rebelling against, see baratheon has betrothal to a woman and be a targ who is already marrried with kids. Take her anyway. Hide in abandoned tower in wife's own kingdom, do nothing and tell no one. Father kills parent and brother of girl, and wants the head of her bethrothed and her eldest living brother. They of course refuse and rebel. Now a whole war has happened because of you. Truly, no wonder the baratheons dislike the targaryens, you can't just dangle stuff and constantly break your word.
@arfathedreamer-nz8cq7 ай бұрын
I am a fan of your channel from Thailand. I would like you to add a Thai audio track to the clips on this channel. For a better understanding of the content in the clip. and to add more followers from Thailand as well. Thank you.
@SaltoDaKid7 ай бұрын
The lore explains that original name and house Baratheon from the storm king. The last storm king after hurricane battle hand Orys his daughter and heir for being honorable warrior to beat him. Which is so badass.
@Lumistrocity7 ай бұрын
This is incorrect, the storm kings were house durrandon, orys took their words and sigil but made baratheon himself
@liam76647 ай бұрын
There’s only one true king AND HIS NAME IS STANNIS!
@coopboulton7 ай бұрын
Barathian’s aren’t crazy at all, they are just quick to anger. There is a difference.
@goldenlockxАй бұрын
they're crazy WHEN they get angry
@calin24917 ай бұрын
lyanna didnt think he could control his lust. so she showed him what controlling your lust looks like by cheating with a married man who already had 2 children and birthing his bastard, in a world that she knew how people will treat them. yes sir, cant see anything contradictory here, just a dumb guy who fell in love with someone who kinda seemed predisposed to the same type of pleasures and idea of fun like him, yknow him beeing a very active physical man, and lyanna always being refferenced as a half centaur for her love of riding which would have most likely been higly unusual amongst the high ladies that would be considered for the heir of storms end. My point is that yes, robert didnt have a clue about who lyanna actually was or her opinion on the matter, but what is overlooked is that he was also told who to marry, with his opinion most likely mattering not that much, and from all available possibilities he most likely deemed her the best, due to similar natures, or how he percieved them. The system of pairing people without their consent or consultation, yeah horrible disgusting practice, but judging someone with a you go,girl mentality of asserting their independence in a immensely unjust and hyppocritical world, doesnt excuse the objective fact she chose the married father of two, which there was 0% possibility she wouldnt have know about. so basically, bastard out of a peasant woman=boo, bad person, how could you, bastard our of a married man of standing and pedigree= i see nothing wrong, it was just an expression of two people against a vastly unjust world?
@dineshbalu61077 ай бұрын
The difference is Robert is just a regular guy, a little lord of Storm's End, who is a womeniser and already has a known bast*rd... But Rhaegar on the other hand is the Crown Prince of the Realm, and not only that. Rhaegar was the most beautiful Human Being to ever exist in this Universe, in addition he is an Elite warrior and an even Better Singer with Extremely Charming, Attractive Personality but also is Mysterious in whole other level. So connect the dots here and U'll understand her Decision of a teen dumb lady. And there's also this Falling in love theory of the Knight of the laughing tree, So there's that as well...
@Miuranger17 ай бұрын
@@dineshbalu6107elite warrior and charming? He was never described like that.
@dineshbalu61077 ай бұрын
@@Miuranger1 Read the books buddy and watch selmy, jorah and oberyn's staements in the show clearly about Rhaegar... In the books it is literally mentioned 1000 times by 1000 characters that he is as close to perfection for a Human Being and some even claimed him as God like.. In short every man in the Realm wanted to be him and every women wanted to be with him. That's Rhaegar's reputation. That's why it is so much of a shock for everyone that he did what he did. So hope U understand...
@AndrewParker-im6qm3 ай бұрын
Two of those three are targ loyalists and the other is trying to fuck Danny I’m not saying Rhaegar wasn’t a beautiful mysterious man with a great singing voice but I’d question his martial prowess if anything I’d say he was decent but certainly not elite his only feats are beating people in joust in which he has the advantage as the crown prince nobody would dare harm him in front of father and a battle with Robert after Robert has fought across the trident to get to him and was handle with little problem giving Robert an injury that was so minor he was fine with in 2-3 weeks as he was able to ride to kingslanding as well as having his maesters tend to Selmy first
@philippeblais85947 ай бұрын
You didn't mention how Borros was slain by a teenage lord Kermit Tully. And Borros' son, Royce born a week after the former's death. At least according to fire and blood.
@JoseGonzalez-pn5zl7 ай бұрын
Ours is the fury. From Aegon co-signing and giving his half brother a place by his side. Only for the Baratheon’s in the future to be there dynasty downfall..
@thelastgreyjoy85557 ай бұрын
There was after Borros named Royce Baratheon during Aegon III rule and likely Daeron I and Gowen Baratheon who married a Lannister in between that time gap
@omarpineda577 ай бұрын
The silhouette of Robert in full armor and hammer in hand just looks sick as fuck man.
@DarkKing0092 ай бұрын
The Targaryen were leech Lords, landlords of a foreign people. Refusing to interact or breed with them to keep their blood pressure from the comments. Jaehaerys the conciliator was the first true ruler of a people and not some landlord with a dragon.
@IndieGamerChick7 ай бұрын
A Baratheon replaced a Durrandon. The people of Stormlands didn't notice the change.
@truetory62317 ай бұрын
That's because every Baratheon except Orys has Durrandon blood in thier veins thanks to Argella
@IndieGamerChick7 ай бұрын
@@truetory6231 ZOOOOOOM. Right over your head.
@dineshbalu61077 ай бұрын
They can't do anything even if they notice, dude on the other end has 3 massive mf Dragons lol...
@Miuranger17 ай бұрын
The baratheon look exactly like them anyway so a W for argella
@DarkKing0096 ай бұрын
Give a gift, get a gift, give nothing you will see nothing. Simple as Lord Borros Baratheon
@invincibleluis7 ай бұрын
Baratheons are strong as hell but Targaryens only win because of dragons
@goldenlockxАй бұрын
targaryens are also not drunk in their emotions like baratheons and typically have a more level head, besides the mad ones
@blazeblade7617 ай бұрын
I fun thing to think about is what if robert was women it would bring interesting possibilities
@louzeyre97507 ай бұрын
Rhaenys originally was described as having silver hair in The Princess and the Queen. It was changed in later works, presumably because it suggests that the "magic" Baratheon hair can, in certain circumstances, be supplanted. Personally, I like Rhaenys with silver hair --- not only does is explain why everyone in the south hasn't become black haired (as you might expect if Baratheon hair always won out, given the way noble families intermarry) but it also leaves just a little doubt as to how unbiased/ logical Ned's reasoning is.
@matztz_45606 ай бұрын
I think all old noble families has strong genes, But in a Order like baratheon over Lannister and minor Houses, tully over stark and etc
@jeanpaulsinatra7 ай бұрын
I mean, Aemond's not that far down the line of succession when you consider how likely Aegon is to get murderised and whether you think he has it in him to Richard III his nephews
@Him_Him_7 ай бұрын
True that 🎉🎉
@NeroLucife6667 ай бұрын
Baratheons got some strong genes.
@lukethegoldenminecart12977 ай бұрын
I think they gave Rheanys valyrian silver hair to make it more obvious that Rheanarya's kids were bastards, cause in the books it was less clear cause it was entirely possible they got their dark hair from their grandmother
@Jacaerys17 ай бұрын
Which honestly should have been kept in the show, to make things more plausible.
@bandit96675 ай бұрын
They made the Velarions black that makes it obvious enough they're bastards in the show
@kjellduteweert92627 ай бұрын
My hope is Shireen is the thrid head of the Dragon. A shy girl will gain, a dragon of white and gold.
@goldenlockxАй бұрын
A non-targ?
@kjellduteweert9262Ай бұрын
@@goldenlockx has the blood. By here great grand mother.
@lukesguywalker7 ай бұрын
Rhaena shouting at Roger over Alyssa's death was really sad to me.
@cherylbaxter89866 ай бұрын
His son Davos an a string of Onions like Davos the Onion knight
@guilhermegfreitas7 ай бұрын
rhaenys with brown/silver hair would've been so much cooler...
@trekkieforlife19887 ай бұрын
It’s ironic that House Baratheon became the ruling house
@Koudey7 ай бұрын
“Hand(less) of the King”
@cureforintroversion12627 ай бұрын
“The King’s hand should have a hand your grace. I will not have men joke behind my back about the King’s stump” - Orys Baratheon
@Koudey7 ай бұрын
@@cureforintroversion1262 Ah! Thanks for the direct quote
@revanius22135 ай бұрын
House of the Dragon has many positive, but being accurate in their characters appearances is not one of them. Very few seem to actually be accurate.
@coricori76617 ай бұрын
Rheanys having white hair in HoTD, doesn’t make Ned’s scene, reading the Baratheon traits dumb, in GoT. If you notice, he only reads all male Baratheon names. Inferring, the dark hair trait, is consistent in the male Baratheons. Shireen, Stannis Baratheon’s daughter, has blonde hair in the tv show GoT. Personally, I think they should’ve Prince Valarr’d, Rheanys’ hair, in HoTD. Gave her a darker shade of blonde with a platinum streak. But, I get what they were trying to do. Keep the emphasizes on the Strong boys hair color and not soo much skin tone. Since, most quarter Black and three quarter white people, tend to look white, anyway.
@NeroLucife6667 ай бұрын
🤔🤔🤔
@zepphed72767 ай бұрын
The fact that a Baratheon speaks so boldly and disrespectfully to a Targaryen in this time period makes zero sense. It’s not like he can back it up against dragon fire…
@matztz_45606 ай бұрын
Or isn't It?
@DarkKing0096 ай бұрын
House Baratheon The kingmakers
@knv57617 ай бұрын
Breeding offers war, inbreeding offers secrecy and peace, and Targaryen knows who is the better ally.
@SHARKVADERS7 ай бұрын
WC!!!!!
@roguecrow9987 ай бұрын
Goooooods the hammer was strong then
@amoX.D7 ай бұрын
Baratheon and Starks are my favorite houses 💕
@truetory62317 ай бұрын
Mine too
@megankull89127 ай бұрын
I need the Baratheons GONE
@RoleCrow7 ай бұрын
The beta targaryens carried to power by dragons, the Chadrateons rised to kingdom by pure Chad Energy
@joaquinjoaquin39927 ай бұрын
HotD is propaganda.
@Nalhirrim7 ай бұрын
Baratheon > Targaryen any day
@dineshbalu61077 ай бұрын
yeah, good joke buddy lmao!!😂😂🤣🤣
@DecimusPrime-xg4zi27 күн бұрын
@@dineshbalu6107 Indian detected, opinion rejected
@dineshbalu610727 күн бұрын
@@DecimusPrime-xg4zi Go Cry somewhere else Rascist🤦😂🤣....
@BlackBlood2972 ай бұрын
By the gods, the Baratheons rebelled more times than the Greyjoys, Blackfyres, and Boltons.
@venkatesanab.com.-computer43777 ай бұрын
Nice video as always!!! Btw isn't Ormund nephew of Lyonel Baratheon and not son