House Dayne - CK3 AGOT - Part 7

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JBD Gaming

Жыл бұрын

Join me as I play as Lord Beric in Crusader Kings 3 A Game of Thrones! Will the House Dayne stay loyal to the Martells and the mad king or will they set out to strengthen their own position?
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@jacobc4796
@jacobc4796 Жыл бұрын
YOU STILL NEED TO AVENGE SIR ARTHUR
@andersam2908
@andersam2908 Жыл бұрын
I agree, if Stannis son is unmarried a matrilineal marriage to a Dayne if possible would be very good. Usually matrilineal marriages are a bit problematic but this is different.
@yidianxia6025
@yidianxia6025 Жыл бұрын
Yes that's right. First made the baratheon child married with dayne, give them high lordship of stormland and then soon enough we would see dorne and stormlands was ruled by a dayne haha!!
@matthewcopley7679
@matthewcopley7679 Жыл бұрын
With Dorne's traditions it may be more then that like the Nimeria-Martell family.... We do not know about the culture or inner house workings, you may have a Dayne-Baratheon line for a generation or two, but you might also get that Dayne-Baratheon line, married to a branch from the Baratheon line, or an Illegitimate line to make a new Baratheon dynastic line... Or even split the titles, and last names at a later date....
@carolinablues1392
@carolinablues1392 Жыл бұрын
Maybe a fan has already told you of Dawn's requirements but if not - I believe it is (if same as CK2) formidable fighter, brave trait, etc. Can't have negative traits. If you can still see Arthur Dayne's traits, that would be helpful.
@kruppe3543
@kruppe3543 Жыл бұрын
Wow this series is really something different. Stannis the Mannis as a marshal in your court is too good to see. I think I saw that his wife was poisoned, maybe now you can give him one of your daughters by matrilineal marriage and thus settle House Dayne on the throne of Stormlands should you succeed in winning that war.
@JBDGaming
@JBDGaming Жыл бұрын
Sounds spicy!
@andersam2908
@andersam2908 Жыл бұрын
Luwin is the Maester of the Starks. That's probably the reason you have Master Lewyn on the mind.
@JBDGaming
@JBDGaming Жыл бұрын
That must be it, thank you haha!
@jakoblawrence1657
@jakoblawrence1657 Жыл бұрын
Found your channel a couple days ago, and binge watched your Forrester and Dayne videos in two days, keep the good content up bud😁
@JBDGaming
@JBDGaming Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the words of support! :)
@maulikjain48
@maulikjain48 Жыл бұрын
no joke i thought i would have never liked this series like I liked the targaryen one but I couldn't have been more wrong these are one of the best gaming videos I have seen
@goergewhite7788
@goergewhite7788 Жыл бұрын
i'm too invested in this series keep up the good work
@goergewhite7788
@goergewhite7788 Жыл бұрын
i noticed that one of your grandsons have a claim on the westerlands. it would be fun if you put a dayne on the thrones of the major houses of the seven kingdoms
@JBDGaming
@JBDGaming Жыл бұрын
I spotted that whilst recording today, possible Westerlands war soon ;)
@BobbyG1312
@BobbyG1312 Жыл бұрын
Love the vids
@cryptocarlton9618
@cryptocarlton9618 Жыл бұрын
You need a vassal who has the knight treat to offer them as a squire, also under your pinned character is a box where you can click on your raised troops and it will auto correct your camera to their position
@karl149
@karl149 Жыл бұрын
Make sure you get some big allies when you start the war for Stannis, cause otherwise you’ll lose.
@richardsiegel5793
@richardsiegel5793 5 ай бұрын
I cannot fathom why you'd want to put Stannis on the throne of all possible claimants.... I mean, prior to Robby's death, why wouldn't you just want his support? And after... why Stannis
@sagittariusa7662
@sagittariusa7662 10 ай бұрын
Again as I had said make Westeros a Diarchy between the King of the Seven Kingdoms in the South and the King of the Three Kingdoms in the North. The South consists of the Crownlands, Stormlands, Riverlands, Vale, Dorne, Reach, and Westerlands. The North Consists of the Northlands, the Wall, and the Iron Islands. The Four Wardens of the Kingdom of the South are the Vale as the Warden of the North, Dorn as Warden of the South, the Westerlands as the Warden of the West, and the Stormlands as the Warden of the East. The Riverlands and the Reach should be decentralized regions with the Paramount Lords requiring the assistance and legitimacy granted by the Crown to support their position but never more than that. The Wardens of North and West will check the Riverlands if they become too centralized under the authority of its Paramount Lord. The Wards of East and South will check the Reach to guarantee it too doesn't centralize under its Paramount Lord. Wardens are permitted permanent seats in the Hand of the King's Council either with themselves as such or by someone of their family and/or court. To better guarantee the Reach and Riverlands maintain their decentralized state, the Hightower will be prompted up as a significant lordship in the region as the Guardian of the Order of the Maesters, which is significant as they would guarantee the Maesters are protected, which makes sense as their seat of power is in Old Town which is where the Maester's Citadel is located. This would effectively turn the Reach into two regions or two subregions within said region, but you would have other smaller subregions to help guarantee it is more decentralized than just having two. Enough that it never truly convenes as a whole and therefore remains under the foot of the King and his Wardens. I would give the Guild of Alchemists a place significant in the Riverlands to help balance the influence of the Maesters. Probably reutilize the construction and what is left of Harrenhal to build something comparable to Old Town with its own sept and a Citadel for the Alchemists. I would use the Faith of the Seven to check the authority of the Alchemists and the Maesters, while they also check each other. The Faith Militant would act as a holy order for the Faith of the Seven to guarantee their authority, but such is checked by the Faith of R'hllor who would have his temples also in the seven kingdoms. The two faiths are under the authority of the King which guarantee the King's place. However, balancing the two is tricky but whoever the King prominently supports will dominate and crush the other. This guarantees their blind allegiance. And it is because of that blind allegiance the King has control over them and by controlling them, he controls the order they supervise, the Alchemists and Maesters under the Faith of the Seven as well as the Faith Militant and the Warrior's Sons. Meanwhile, the Faith of R'hllor would have the Order of the Winged Hand (Green Hand + Winged Knights) along with the Templars of Rainbow Guard (Rainbow Guard + the Templar Order from Dragon Age). Rainbow isn't suppose to support some progressive image. It reflect the different colors of the realm, one for each of the seven regions. They would also have the House of Warlocks (Sort of took the House of the Undying turn it into a guild and under the oversight of the Red Priests) and the Circle of Magi (which I took straight out of Dragon Age just with the Red Priests acting as the Chantry). Each Lord has his own Alchemist, Maester, Warlock, and Mage. There is also an Alchemist, Maester, Warlock and Mage for each of the major townships in the Seven Kingdoms along with for each Order, which means the Maesters' have an Alchemist even though they don't like the Alchemists and the Faith of the Seven (along with the Faith Militant and the Warrior's Sons) have a Warlock and Mage even though both don't worship the Seven. The premise is that competition along with friendly hostage taking forces all in the seven kingdoms to behave and be obedient under the heel of the King. Until it all goes terribly wrong like a powder keg in a soon to be non-dormant volcano. Edited: Riverlands are divided between the Tullys and Whents with the Blackwoods, Brackens, Darrys, Freys, Lothstons, Mallisters, Mootons, Mudds, Pipers, Rygers, Strongs, and Vances as significant petty lords to create a third coalition. Significant contribution from the Crown will be made to the Tullys to keep them up at a strong enough position that fidelity and honor are not the only means to keep the lesser lords in check without banning together. Make the Tullys stronger than each of the petty lords but not stronger than all of them and not too strong compared to the Whents who would be the Guardians of the Guild of Alchemists. The House of Warlocks would also be located in the Riverlands while the Circle of Magi would be located in the Reach. Or Vice Versa, it doesn't really matter so long as it better divides those two regions as they are the breadbaskets of the Seven Kingdoms and keep them divided makes it easier to rule over them and prevent the lords of those regions from unseating the King. I would consider making the Highgarden and House Tyrell be the Guardians of the Circle of Magi, but I think that would give the Circle of Magi and the Faith of R'hllor too much power in the Seven Kingdoms. So instead, I will raise another significant power in the Reach to act as their Guardian. I think House Ashford would do. It is about the same distance from Hightower as Old Town making it is a significant geopolitical means of dividing the Reach into three powers.
@sagittariusa7662
@sagittariusa7662 10 ай бұрын
So you have Reach which is under the loose paramount lordship of Tyrell with significant rivalry from the two Guardians in the same region, Hightower with Oldtown and the Order of Maesters, and Ashford with the Circle of Magi. And you have the Riverlands which are under another loose paramound lordship which is headed by a stronger House Tully prompted up even more by the Crown, but still divided in its authority but this time by Harrenhal with House Whent and its Guardianship over the Guild of Alchemists, along with House Frey who would be perfect to have the House of the Warlocks since Walder Frey already looks like one of them. Plus they have the strongest military out of all of the Houses in the Riverlands. The Crownlands consists of the Lands directly under the Crown along with those under the direct authority of Faith Militant, the Warrior's Sons, the Templars of the Rainbow Guard, and the Order of the Winged Hand. These four orders are under the supervision of two faiths, the Faith of the Seven and the Faith of R'hllor. Neither has any actual land, but they do have septs and temples in all of the significant towns and cities throughout the seven kingdoms as well as controlling significant portions of King's Landing, which is divided into three cities as one single Cosmopolitan Metropolis. There are three hills located at Kings landing with streets that easily divide it into three districts. Each Distrct or city (which they basically are) has its own Grand Mayor which are appointed by its respected Lord. The Grand Mayor of Aegon's Hill (the city that contains the King's control of the city) is appointed by the Crown. The Grand Mayor of Visenya's Hill is appointed by the High Septon who is easily located there as it contains the Great Sept of Baelor. But I would remove the Dragonpit as I don't think it is wise to have Dragons in Westeros and removing them would make the people easier to control once the other institutions are in place as stated. You wouldn't need dragons, but you still have them. Rhaenys's Hill would instead house the Great Temple of Baelor for the Faith of R'hllor, because why not. Not being loyal to a specific religion guarantees they both have to play ball with the Game of Thrones and make greater overtures in winning over the favor of the Crown. So long as the Crown never decides, they remain equally loyal and equally divided in their authority and power. Anyways, the Faith of R'hllor Head Red Priest or the High Priest if you will appoints their Grand Mayor. And three Grand Mayors will convene together at a building located in the center of the King's Square at the center of the City to address matters concerning the city as a whole. It is also a secondary livingquarters of the King rather than just living at the Red Keep, which also contains the Parliament of the Seven Kingdoms. A convenient place to do business for the city as you have easy access to the Parliament and possibly also the King if he is there since he could also be at the Red Keep. Ideally, the King would live at his Palace the King's Square simply known as the King's Palace. This area is not under the authority of either City Government except the City Watch, which in turn is under the Authority of the King's Guard which is under the authority of the King via the Hand of the King. Therefore, it is a good means to have influence in court by being on the Small Council as you could convene with the Hand of the King who in turn protects one of the Livingquarters of the King. To be fair, he does both. It is just that the Red Keep is where the King expenses justice and the King's Palace is where the King convenes with people on all other matters such as making laws or enforcing the law. I would keep the Dragons at Dragonstone and have them eat fish as their stable diet rather than tormenting commoners and lords on Westeros. Just a reminder to the People of Westeros that they are only a small voyage or flight away at all times. Not necessarily to house them at Kings Landing. I would layout the structure of the city to contain noble and wealthy people to have housing near the Great Sept, Great Temple, Red Keep and the King's Palace or surrounding the King's Square with lesser nobles behind them and then common and poor folk after them. So instead of the whole city being a giant slum, it would contain divisions of wealth and status that help guarantee order and peace as far as the wellbeing of the King as his most prominent subjects are concerned.
@matthewcopley7679
@matthewcopley7679 Жыл бұрын
So what would you call the north of the North..... You got the North, the land of the free peoples beyond the wall, Land of Ever Frozen (Far Frozen) The situation reminds me of Tolkien and the Free People of Eriador, who eventually reform the Kingdom of Arnor. I just do not know what to call that land in-between...
@JBDGaming
@JBDGaming Жыл бұрын
As someone who lives in the south of the UK, everything above me is just north lol, and then more north
@matthewcopley7679
@matthewcopley7679 Жыл бұрын
@@JBDGaming thought of a start for your next playthrough and your goal. Ironborn raider through time builds the kingdom of the Iron Crest... Take costal land from the reach, riverlands and the north to build a new 8th kingdom
@sagittariusa7662
@sagittariusa7662 10 ай бұрын
A good means to keep the King on the Iron Throne from conquering the North. "You would have to be the King of the Eight Kingdoms if you take the North as you already have Seven. Crownlands, Stormlands, Dorne, Riverlands, Westerlands, the Vale, and the Reach." Someone dumb: "There are nine constituent regions..." Then that would mean Nine Kingdoms. Someone stupid: "Yeah... well... it is nine regions out of seven kingdoms." How the hell did you get nine out of seven? Each region has its own Paramount Lord, correct? Someone retarded: "Yeah, but there were seven kingdoms as the Crownlands were once part of the Stormlands and the Iron Islands had dominion over the Riverlands." Then why aren't they administered as such or why not rename it from seven to nine since you bothered to create two additional regions? Is there any reason in dividing the Stormlands rather than just administering over them as a whole so you have a larger garrison against the other regions should they rebel against you. If the King Aegon took all of the Stormlands as his own then his descendants wouldn't need to worry about a Baratheon taking his descendant's throne. Someone intelligent: "In hindsight that would had been a good idea, but there is no way the Targareyons would know that." Except they can predict the future as noted with the one who knew about the doom in advance and the other people who thought it was a good idea to follow along with that idea rather than ignore it or set up shop somewhere in Essos, maybe in Northern Rhoyne where the Rhoynar once lived. They are gone and even if the land is in ruins, it is easier to rebuild than it is to resettle. The Doom didn't even impact the Rhoyne, so it is still possible to settle there. Even for an alliance with Qohar and Norvos against Volantis. Probably easier to do than defeating the Seven Kingdoms. The point is that they followed along with this because the Targaryens are collectively able to tell when shit is about to hit the fan, unless they go mad. So they would still have known having nine regions would had been a bad idea. So instead, there would be seven regions. Either the King takes on the Stormlands as a whole and subjucates the North but not the Iron islands. Just wipe those islands straight off the map as the only means the people there have to be productive is looting, unless they are going to loot Essos and make conquest there easier in the future. The Targaryens had no interest in conquering Essos or reconquering. So instead, it would be a good idea just to wipe them out. No more Ironmen. Now if you take the North, then you have take over all of the Stormlands. If you don't plan on taking all of the Stormlands to make the Crownlands, then you cannot take the North. In fact, it may be a better idea to not take all of the Stormlands and allow the North to be independent as the North makes a good buffer against the Wildlings and the Others (White Walkers). If you want to still subjucate the North, then I would do so giving them the status of Lesser King of Westeros. Sort of make Westeros a Diarchy and even let the King of the North have the Iron Islands after the Ironmen are no more or severely depopulated since the Islands cannot support any significant population at all. So they are perfect for the Northmen who already live in a severely sparcely populated region.
@slickjack2618
@slickjack2618 Жыл бұрын
JBD, I notice that you have hampered your army by neglecting your siege equipment. As I recall, your men-at-arms include only 10 onagers as your siege complement. You have mangonels available and should increase the number of them. On the other hand, perhaps you enjoy sieges that take over a YEAR to complete! I don't think you are in a position to install Stannis on the throne of The Stormlands. I believe you need to be a vassal of the Stormlands in order to create a faction to install him on that throne. Similarly, you cannot install someone on the Iron Throne as you are not a vassal of the Iron throne. You are a vassal of Dorne and you can only create a faction to install someone on the Dornish throne. You did that, already, and there's no reason to repeat the endeavor. Actually, Beric (your current PC) is being quite ambitious for a "content" character. The whole expansion into the Duchy to your north was very out of character. As you don't hold any counties in your northern duchy, it might be worthwhile to put your Septon (?) to creating claims against the counties that are held by the woman you defeated in your late war. You can then revoke her titles without incurring tyranny penalties as you have claims against all of them. If she refuses (rebels) against you, call in your Oldtown allies immediately to prevent her from relying upon their strength. - sj
@joestylinbhf9776
@joestylinbhf9776 Жыл бұрын
Get stannis to knight your character
@JBDGaming
@JBDGaming Жыл бұрын
I should jump on that! Already recorded the next couple but this is a good idea
@carolinablues1392
@carolinablues1392 Жыл бұрын
Yes, make Stannis the ward of one of a young promising Dayne child. Stannis will make him a squire when available and then knight him. Age & martial requirements for squiring.
@alexalceres9381
@alexalceres9381 Жыл бұрын
Did ashara have a child with Robert?
@JBDGaming
@JBDGaming Жыл бұрын
Sadly not
@stephenferguson9756
@stephenferguson9756 Жыл бұрын
​@@JBDGaming Actually I think she did. I think you just missed it. It said on there she was pregnant when he was alive, and after he died I saw she had a new child. Having a Baratheon grandchild could possibly present some political opportunities later.
@JBDGaming
@JBDGaming Жыл бұрын
@@stephenferguson9756 The child was from her previous marriage as she only has Dayne children ;p
@MordecaiVertecimes
@MordecaiVertecimes Жыл бұрын
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