Summerhall: the tragedy before Game of Thrones
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What happened at the mysterious tragedy of Summerhall? Did King Aegon V Targaryen (Egg) sacrifice people to hatch dragon eggs? Is Rhaegar the prince that was promised? Who is the ghost of High Heart?
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References & further reading:
JoeMagician on Egg seeing visions of Daenerys: • 🧙 Pyres and Blood: The...
Ripples in the Dreamscape by Bookshelfstud: / spoilers_twow_ripples_...
History of Westeros: • The Tragedy of Summerhall
History of Westeros The Shadow of Summerhall: • The Shadow of Summerha...
In Deep Geek on Bloodraven as perpetrator: • Video
In Deep Geek and Crowfood’s Daughter on ghost of High Heart and Summerhall, Aerys as perpetrator: • The Ghost of High Hear...
Westeros.org forums on Rhaegar as Summerhall dragon: asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php...
Westeros.org forums on Tywin Aerys perpetrators: asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php...
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0:00 Summerhall
0:53 King Egg
3:05 Dragons
4:18 Tragedy
5:48 Wildfire
7:30 Sacrifice
11:05 Prophecy
12:54 Dreams
17:05 Rhaegar
20:41 Conspiracies
24:04 Fire
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@AltShiftX 3 жыл бұрын
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@johnnysmall 3 жыл бұрын
egg.
@kansasXcityXstealth 3 жыл бұрын
Why won’t George finish Winds of Winter?
@oz8853 3 жыл бұрын
great vid, cant wait for the next asoiaf abridged episode tho
@gfilmer7150 3 жыл бұрын
The Maesters did it 100%
@RedRoseSeptember22 3 жыл бұрын
@@kansasXcityXstealth Because people like you keep harassing him.
@JustAGuy1386 3 жыл бұрын
The Tragedy of Summerhall was just the gender reveal party for Rhaegar.
@ashleyofnaath 3 жыл бұрын
Summerhall was just a gender reveal gone awry...💀.😂😂
@gfilmer7150 3 жыл бұрын
"People are so stupid" - Brock a.k.a. Moo, L2D4 Funny Moments - There Are Fall Guys Among Us, 2020
@pucaboo1591 3 жыл бұрын
Prince Aerys: It's a boy! His entire fucking family: ☠👋
@gfilmer7150 3 жыл бұрын
@@pucaboo1591 Egg: “Ow. I’m on fire. I’m in danger”
@luciferangelica 3 жыл бұрын
aww, burn!
@mistonklelees 3 жыл бұрын
In the books Daenerys rises from the fire with her hair burned away. Egg may have seen the bald Daenerys in a vision and mistaken her for himself as a young bald prince.
@tuulenkoti 3 жыл бұрын
God I want to believe...
@peteypo3727 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@yetagain9736 3 жыл бұрын
What about the boobs?
@mistonklelees 3 жыл бұрын
@@yetagain9736 smoke/dragons obscuring them, viewed from behind, unclear "visiony" imagery, plenty of reasons for Egg to miss the bewbs.
@jyotiradityasatpathy3546 3 жыл бұрын
@@yetagain9736 censored
@AC-ze1nh 2 жыл бұрын
I can understand why the Targs have an obsession with prophecy, it's how they survived the Doom. So it would make poetic sense if their reliance on dreams ultimately ended their line.
@danielawesome36 2 жыл бұрын
It would also make poetic sence is they survived and even thrived after one of them chooses to ignore the prophecies.
@tonysiouxfan 2 жыл бұрын
Too bad we will never know because GRR is never finishing this story.
@kevinfreitas6832 2 жыл бұрын
Ironic how Targaryens are represented by dragons, but at Summerhall, most were wiped out by fire.
@J.Wiki23 2 жыл бұрын
@@kevinfreitas6832 that's how almost all dragons die if you think about it, the Dance of Dragons saw fire fight fire & death was guaranteed. Basically similar to the birth of Rhaegar at Summerhall 🤷🏽♂️
@JesusChristMarie 2 жыл бұрын
Ngl, Targ sounds like an ignorant Westerosi slur for someone with Valyrian descent
@Zanator1 3 жыл бұрын
"fire and blood" is literally the family slogan. It's the recipe to hatch dragons.
@Saevirera Жыл бұрын
Fucking grrm, this is so on the nose..
@faisalkamal4319 Жыл бұрын
Actually not just hatch dragon but also a recipe to cook good egg
@roscojenkins7451 Жыл бұрын
@@faisalkamal4319 remind me not to eat breakfast at your house
@faisalkamal4319 Жыл бұрын
@@roscojenkins7451 you come for breakfast you stay for the dragon eggs hatching ritual
@PineappleBaconPizza Жыл бұрын
@@faisalkamal4319 remind me to eat breakfast at your house because I need to see dragons hatching
@McJusti 3 жыл бұрын
Poor Rhaella. She gave birth to Rhaegar during a tragedy and died giving birth to Daenerys during a storm
@simonholmes841 3 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the multiple miscarriages and lost infants. And the way Aerys treated her. Basically all we know about Rhaella is reduced to the context of her pregnancies, from prophesied pregnancy forcing her to marry her brother to Summerhall to her flight from King's Landing to her death on Dragonstone. Her entire life wrecked by others' expectation for her to bear children.
@harlekingyt7302 3 жыл бұрын
What storm?. I never heard of any storm.
@Patte-chan 3 жыл бұрын
@@harlekingyt7302 You never heard of Daenerys Stormborn?
@gingerg85 3 жыл бұрын
And Viserys was presumably an easy birth but just the absolute worst.
@animesempai0 3 жыл бұрын
@@gingerg85 irony really lol
@Emre-eh1uq 3 жыл бұрын
“Or maybe it was Daario disguised as Ser Pounce with a book of matches and a can of gasoline.” Best theory ever.
@francescapatti2934 2 жыл бұрын
D&D be like.
@kyleerrington8004 2 жыл бұрын
Ser Pounce, that son of a gun, at it again
@seanrainbow6506 2 жыл бұрын
And still weren't found out
@brooksboysoutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
That’s better writing than season 8
@Draqer 2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of that meme with the car carried by a firefighter "T'WAS I WHO SET HOUSE ABLAZE!"
@twa9342 Жыл бұрын
It seems incredible that the Targaryen dynasty lasted for another 125 years after the death of the last dragon
@emrecck Жыл бұрын
Yes Sir! Respect
@1v966 Жыл бұрын
If you think about it, is it really tho? All IRL royal lineages that lasted hundreds, if not thousands of years did so without any magic backing them up, just through power of tradition and good politics alone. It's not like the recently crowned Charles III had to ride a fucking unicorn into Balmoral to lay claim to his mum's throne
@twa9342 Жыл бұрын
@@1v966 😂😂😂
@canyou7670 Жыл бұрын
@@1v966 The difference is that the Targaryen ruled all of westeros while other royal houses like the Starks only rule the north.
@1v966 Жыл бұрын
@@canyou7670 my brother in Christ, I was talking about IRL royalty. You know that Martin aint made all that feudalism shit up from his head right?
@ethanmagdaleno5332 Жыл бұрын
The reveal that the Targaryans knew about the coming war between the dead and the living could help explain why Egg was so desperate to get dragons back into the world. He knew they'd be needed
@mustfly2608 Жыл бұрын
The thing is George hasn't stated that it was passed from King to heir he only said that aegon the conqueror knew about it there's no mention of it being passed down to his heir
@omegaRST Жыл бұрын
@@mustfly2608 Now we do know this is true, it's mentioned in HOTD
@steeljosh36 Жыл бұрын
@@omegaRST HOTD and GOT are not book canon. That is a creative liberty not mentioned in the books. Also not something to seriously consider with the Summerhall story
@MylesKillis Жыл бұрын
@@steeljosh36 the shows are lore canon. GRRM said the books are written from the perspective of a Maestor writing about events while the show is really what happened
@steeljosh36 Жыл бұрын
@@MylesKillis He never said anything of the sort: "We have two canons. We have the show canon, the Game of Thrones canon. And we have the Song of Ice and Fire canon," Martin said simply. "And in the book canon, obviously, still writing The Winds of Winter, I'm sure you all know that, and then there's another book beyond that. And as I write them, and I've said this in a previous blog post, I always knew that things were gonna be different, but as I'm writing, as the stories are coming alive, and the characters are coming alive, taking me further and further away from the show. So there's gonna be some very considerable differences, and the book canon is gonna be quite different from the show canon as we get deeper into it." They are two distinct versions
@Star_moses 3 жыл бұрын
God seeing Egg go from a good little squire to a ruthless king willing to kill his children would be such a horrifying arc to read.
@sobversion3 3 жыл бұрын
Idk about ruthless; id assume the one hypothetical dark spot in his life would be killing his children in this scenario. He wouldn't be seen as Aerys after him
@jeffreyhill1011 3 жыл бұрын
Idk sounds pretty damn grrm to me
@Etxebatovic 3 жыл бұрын
Just like Daenerys'
@Roberto-rn8uy 3 жыл бұрын
None of us will ever be able to read it Unless of course George is somehow immortal
@isonji9828 3 жыл бұрын
@@Roberto-rn8uy an immortal skinchanger
@raymond-reviews 3 жыл бұрын
The tale of Dunk & Egg really makes the tragedy of Summerhall even harsher since we grew to know and like Dunk and Egg personally instead of seeing them as historical figures.
@QueenDaenerysTargaryen 3 жыл бұрын
Dunk & Egg would make a great prequel along with House🏠 of the dragon🔥🐉🐲🐉🔥
@raymond-reviews 3 жыл бұрын
@@QueenDaenerysTargaryen I think they’re actually working on Dunk and Egg
@gfilmer7150 3 жыл бұрын
@@raymond-reviews They should do a 13 episode series on The First Blackfyre Rebellion to set the stage for Dunk and Egg
@NoOne-qy2yf 3 жыл бұрын
@@gfilmer7150 Yep that would be Great
@raymond-reviews 3 жыл бұрын
@@gfilmer7150 I’m down for all the Blackfyre rebellions to get adaptations
@alec6583 2 жыл бұрын
I can so imagine Dunk carrying the princess to safety to give birth outside the burning castle, then turning around and saying, "I may be back, I may not. Either way, His Majesty is getting a clout in the ear." Then he dives back into the flames to slap Egg silly one last time.
@catherine.marial Жыл бұрын
Don't make me cry 😭
@AlexanderJoneshttps Жыл бұрын
I can imagine that haha
@Milkra Жыл бұрын
Just started reading dunk and egg, love this comment so much
@alec6583 Жыл бұрын
@@Milkra I made it so long ago that it was like reading someone else's. Thank you. I'm very proud of it, myself!😁
@adib3011 10 ай бұрын
Damn man that strikes deep. I really fell in love with dunk and egg.
@MarkLatimerRussell Жыл бұрын
Gotta say the reveal in HotD that ASOIaF is a Targaryen oral tradition really adds a lot to the motivation of a lot of these “mad kings” each one crumbling under the weight of this apocalypse that may fall on their shoulders. It took a Targaryen who was not aware of the burden to succeed in the end too. So good.
@biggrocc19 Жыл бұрын
Not so sure you can call it a "reveal" so much as an "artistic liberty"
@steeljosh36 Жыл бұрын
@@biggrocc19 Yeah its not really book canon. At least not yet.
@NickWalkerWilliamson Жыл бұрын
i'm thinking Aegon's secret may die with Rhaenyra during the events of HotD, or perhaps afterwards slowly along with the dragons (depending on who she tells, who they tell, etc.) after a civil war, it very well may be lost or not believed at some point. all it would take is one Targaryen down the line to scoff at it like it's a fairytale or to die without passing it on to someone. then it is entirely reliant on someone holding the Valyrian dagger in the flames AND interpreting the prophecy correctly (which we see is not reliable in this great video).
@sleepyllama3673 Жыл бұрын
@@steeljosh36 Except it kinda is.
@cantutmez8854 Жыл бұрын
There's no such thing,the prophecy is known thoughout the entire world and almost every culture has his own "Azor Ahai". Show canon is different than Book canon
@phrophetsamgames 3 жыл бұрын
Can't believe Ser Pounce really committed regicide and killed a generation of Targaryens just so his boi Tommen could be King.
@juniperrodley9843 3 жыл бұрын
A great gift requires great sacrifice.
@ElDuderinoh 2 жыл бұрын
Lmfao isn’t that the cat
@juniperrodley9843 2 жыл бұрын
@@ElDuderinoh He's Azor Ahai and you *will* respect him as such
@hammyhamster8349 2 жыл бұрын
Who knows what he did to become a Ser? Do we really know some Maester didn't change him into a cat?
@nikhiliyengar1510 2 жыл бұрын
@@ElDuderinoh The Pounce that was Promised!
@dylanchouinard6141 3 жыл бұрын
I really like how Alt Shift X doesn’t just propose wild theories, he also shows what would make sense from a story perspective
@zenebean 3 жыл бұрын
I think Sir Pounce with a can of gasoline most likely based on the evidence, but you have a point
@dylanchouinard6141 3 жыл бұрын
@@zenebean fair point
@timtheguy2179 3 жыл бұрын
And whenever he proposes a wacky theory, he's self aware & shuts it down with evidence
@lluewhyn 3 жыл бұрын
@@timtheguy2179 I do like that. He will often discuss various theories proposed by the fans, and then go into why some of them are unlikely for logistical or story-telling reasons. See the whole "Euron = Daario" video.
@juniperrodley9843 3 жыл бұрын
This is illustrated perfectly in his Knight of the Laughing Tree video when he says "but in the end, it was probably just Lyanna".
@kerrid5717 Жыл бұрын
Oh I actually think Jenny survived. I think Jenny's song is about her going mad with grief. "Jenny would dance with her ghosts." It almost implies she refused to leave the crumbled and burnt ruins where her husband died until she passed away herself perhaps or malnourishment. That or she died because she wouldnt leave her already dead husband's corpse in the fire. Either way I think the song Jenny of oldstones gives her character just a bit more lore
@adib3011 10 ай бұрын
The song always gives me chills.
@phrophetsamgames Жыл бұрын
Aside from frustrating his plans, Egg's kids really made sure that the Targaryens were very isolated from alliances. The only familial connection they did have, Rhaelle birthing Steffon Baratheon and her grandkids being cousins to Rhaegar, Viserys, and Dany, ended up siding against them in the war. Had all the betrothals gone through, the realm would have been much more stable and much more Targaryen-aligned. Rhaegar probably could have overthrown his dad easier.
@marcusgibson5314 Жыл бұрын
He was trying to ally the north with the South he met lyyana learned of Lord starks southerns ambitions and was going to ask his permission to marry llyana but shit got fucked up
@phrophetsamgames Жыл бұрын
@@marcusgibson5314 He never met Lyanna before the tournament. He fell in "love" after catching her as the Knight of the Laughing Tree. Rhaegar attended the Tournament at Harrenhall because he wanted to gather support alongst the lords against his father but Varys found out and insisted that Aerys attend.
@marcusgibson5314 Жыл бұрын
@@phrophetsamgames what you said doesn't contradict what I've said
@seanmcloughlin5983 10 ай бұрын
To be fair keeping the bloodline in one part of the family meant there was no more rebellious branches But unless your taking the Ottoman path and killing all non inheriting sons, you kinda have few options.
@redadmiralofvalyria867 4 ай бұрын
The only problem with this thought is the simple fact that the logic of "keeping the bloodline pure" has, for the most part, "some logic" Hear me out: often since marriages are arranged, one doesn't always know if said family is TRULY worthy of said marriage, u hear all these situations irl of nobles & royals marrying for money/power, and they totally abuse said power/coin, even civil war between dynasties Maintaining the wealth/power within one's own "trusted family" is a smart move, with its own VARIOUS obvious problems The Targaryens would have been screwed either way. The "dance of the dragons 🐉" showed how pretty much ANYONE with the "blood of the dragon" is gonna put SOME stake in the thrown, while I DO acknowledge that an alliance with the Tully, baratheon, and tyrell wpuld have been beneficial, it also gives those houses CLAIMS, which could "possibly" start a new "dance'' House aryn, for example, had a targ princess, she died, her daughter died, hell even those OF house aryn died
@TheAgamemnon911 3 жыл бұрын
"Chaos... Chaos is a ladder." "Your family tree is a ladder!"
@ceruleandawn848 2 жыл бұрын
I feel this comment
@RaptrRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
Zeus’ family tree be like:
@zhihuangxu6551 2 жыл бұрын
@@RaptrRamblings 宁 宁 宁
@RaptrRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
@@zhihuangxu6551 The second funniest thing about this is that the Chinese Word means Calm and Zeus be like “Oh I can bone whoever I please.” and be chill with it. But in reality-chaos.
@dylansporrer1198 3 жыл бұрын
I never knew before now that the main Baratheon brothers were so closely related to the Targaryen royal line. It's weird to think Bobby B and Dany share a great-grandfather and despite being decades apart in age are technically in the same generation of this family tree.
@AllTheArtsy 2 жыл бұрын
This was literally mentioned as Robert's claim to the throne (obviously it was conquest, but it did help that he had Targaryen lineage)
@WickedCool23 2 жыл бұрын
It’s the inevitability of such an inbred family line
@barthoekstra6760 2 жыл бұрын
@@AllTheArtsy a strange thougt that hé hates Targaryens!
@otto_jk 2 жыл бұрын
@@barthoekstra6760 he hates Rhaegar and projects the hate to the whole family...
@barthoekstra6760 2 жыл бұрын
@@otto_jk i know but the Baratheons are related to Them!
@randomlyentertaining8287 Жыл бұрын
I'm into GoT but only superficially. It's very funny to know that Robert was technically the nephew of the guy he was trying to overthrow and, thus, was Daenerys' first cousin, who was trying to kill her.
@bkilg2509 Жыл бұрын
That's why he got the crown and not Ned or Jon Arryan. He had the better claim because of that targ bloodline.
@romanspiwak Жыл бұрын
@@bkilg2509 Well, Robert got the crown because it was Robert's Rebellion. He was the one that started it, and he was the one who killed Rhaegar, so no matter what, he would probably end up on the thrown. It's actually stated in the books that his Targaryen blood was really just the superficial justification for why he got the crown.
@Truthseeker450 Жыл бұрын
second cousin.
@julius666caesar3 Жыл бұрын
@@romanspiwak Jon Arryn started the rebellion
@billcipherproductions1789 Жыл бұрын
@@romanspiwak Yes he would've but then he would've faced the same problem as House Tyrell does. He'll be seen as a usurper.
@TumzFestivalYT Жыл бұрын
The idea of a land where people have visions that come from different points in time, and always misinterpreting them is so tragic.
@nickmaranzano 3 жыл бұрын
I like the idea that Ser Duncan the tall chose to save Rhaella and Rhaegar first and then still went back in to try and save egg, and dying together.
@emrecck Жыл бұрын
I agree. Although the theory where Egg goes mad (like his grandson) and does some f***d up things which lead to his own death by Dunk also makes sense (surely, after Dunk saves Rhaella and Rhaegar).
@user-ev7nw7sz3l 21 күн бұрын
I think Dunk stabbed Egg like Jaime killed the mad king but didn't kill him just incapacitated Egg. I think Egg was going to sacrifice Rhaella and Rhaegar to hatch dragons but Dunk stopped him then things went to shit. What if everyone else was trying to help Egg achieve it except for the Maester. That's why he saved Rhaella and the Maester survived. Then he went back to die with him cause a Kings guard isn't supposed to outlive their king. I think Dunk was with Egg and the sand trap killed the both of them like in Dunk's dream in the Sworn sword novel. I think Dunk was there with Egg to the end to save his soul but couldn't his life. But a dragon was born. Rhaegar
@DavidWesley 3 жыл бұрын
Cooking Eggs with fire? You’re a monster!🤣
@luciferangelica 3 жыл бұрын
crack in the egg, the time is right, crack in the egg, crack in my pipe
@rinkaevelynn5179 3 жыл бұрын
HowtoBasic what to know your location
@sulik6228 3 жыл бұрын
you gotta crack a few targaryens to fulfill a prophecy
@creepyglider5520 3 жыл бұрын
"cooking eggs with fire? Was he making breakfast?" -Renly Baratheon, probably
@ketreenawilliams9812 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@BulletTooth504 3 жыл бұрын
The fire at Summerhall actually started in the kitchen when some bread was left in the oven too long. There is substantial evidence that points to the cook responsible being Hot Pie's grandfather.
@peterwindhorst5775 6 ай бұрын
much like the Great Fire of London. where in blame sir pounce on that too...
@kai-in1xt 5 ай бұрын
They really should have seen the fire coming, Hot Pie’s grandfather being a horse and all…
@jordansweet7738 2 жыл бұрын
The difference between Aegon's Summerhall and Dany's Pyre for Drogo could easily be that Dany didn't do it trying to make a prophecy come true. Doesn't that sound more like a prophecy coming true, than it did when someone tried to jam all the pieces into the puzzle?
@cameronfield4617 4 ай бұрын
It may not have been prophecy but she did dream about it It's not in the show I believe but in the books Dany dreamed of her dragons hatching from the fire. That's why she steps into the pyre and why she tells Jorah that she'll be fine. I think the line is something like "Dany thinks to herself, I will be fine because I have seen it before" She sees herself cradling three dragons after having survived burning. So whilst it was foretold by a woods witch, it was somewhat prophesied I don't think it was because Dany didn't try to make it happen and therefore it worked (because she did try) I think the magic/gods of the world deemed that would be the time and place for dragons to be reborn. Just how our boy described it in the video
@gonx9906 3 жыл бұрын
i like your theory about Dunk and Egg having a confrontation at summerhall: Dunk: you cant kill innocents Egg: I need dragons! Dunk: you were supposed to bring balance to the force, not leave it in darkness Egg: wait, what? Dunk: what?
@ComradeCommissarYuri 3 жыл бұрын
😆
@richarddavies5674 2 жыл бұрын
" I hate Sand! "
@thedumbdog1964 2 жыл бұрын
@@richarddavies5674 “We had a fine time in Dorne!”
@pandemelocoton9685 2 жыл бұрын
*You were the chosen one!*
@bradp5848 2 жыл бұрын
Dunk: "It's over Egg, I have the high ground,!" Egg: "Said no knight ever!" Dunk: "Oh Be One" Egg: "Gaslighting really? Am I Over-Easy?" Dunk: "These aren't the droids your looking for." Egg: "I hate you!"
@smuu1996 3 жыл бұрын
I think it's absolutely fantastic how well built the world of A Song of Ice and Fire is. I mean, we can literally have thousands of hours of discussion about a world and stories made up by one old guy's head. And the story isn't bad, it's good and well written and can be worked through dozens of times without becoming uninteresting. That's prlly also the reason for why Winds of Winter is taking forever. Worth it tho ngl.
@benschmitt7035 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah ive seen alot of people saying "oh if George had written 1 word a day and its as long as Dance hed be done by now" While sure, he is obviously taking his sweeeet ass time, imagine just making yourself clear on all the minute, interconnected details of this extremely complex and rich world Like writing is probably the easy part
@janakipejov3667 3 жыл бұрын
Copium
@benschmitt7035 3 жыл бұрын
@@janakipejov3667 oh man im inhaling so much you have no idea
@RK-ep8qy 3 жыл бұрын
I mean yes but it's all based on English history and other things anyway. But it is well written
@smuu1996 3 жыл бұрын
@@RK-ep8qy It's inspired by that, but the grand cast of various characters and their long history still is mostly original.
@Howtragicforyou 2 жыл бұрын
A feast for crows is my favourite book of all time partially for the “prophecy will bite your prick off every time” line, and just for the absolutely beautiful character/world building.
@aesir1ases64 2 жыл бұрын
I think its the weakest in the series, still great though
@liampowell5014 2 жыл бұрын
It’s easily the weakest, least interesting for me and felt like mostly filler but opinions and that
@animatedink2529 2 жыл бұрын
Really? Well, while I find it the weakest, that's awesome you find it the best. And there are some excellent ideas and stories in AFFC but I dunno, ADWD fulfilled my hunger for the Northern story and Stannis Baratheon which AFFC did not
@roronoalaw7772 Жыл бұрын
It was boring, only thing memorable was the King’s moot
@GospelofComics 2 жыл бұрын
The idea that Egg went off his rocker and was intending to sacrifice Rhaella and Rhaegar and was thwarted by Dunk is damn cold but I can see that being a storyline because Egg mad with power in a moment of weakness abandons all decency in his quest for power and Dunk betrays him, only to return to his side and die with him in flames as penance for being unable (morally) to protect his king.
@ToonUlaros 6 ай бұрын
Would be one of the best stories with a great ending that’s for sure
@Whatalansays 3 жыл бұрын
Based on the lyrics, I always assumed Jenny survived the fire and wasted away at Summerhall in her grief
@tylerbaldwin3269 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I thought that's why Rhaegar went to Summerhall, to visit Jenny
@lisabeethree 3 жыл бұрын
I assumed the same! I’m glad to see I wasn’t the only one 😊
@corbindick8943 3 жыл бұрын
I like this theory
@pathfinder2reality 3 жыл бұрын
I think this is the truth. A story in my head is that Jenny never wanted to leave the ruins of Summerhall, and she stayed there until her death, dancing with the Ghosts. Rhaegar visited her frequently and inspired by her story wrote the song Jenny of Oldstones. This song, Rhaegar performed at the tournament in Harrenhall and made Lyana Stark cry. The rest is history!
@JimRFF 3 жыл бұрын
Oh... uh... I always assumed the song implied Jenny couldn't deal with the loss at Summerhall and committed suicide there...
@Spongebrain97 3 жыл бұрын
I really like the idea that Egg saw Daenerys hatching dragon eggs but thought it all applied to himself
@mistonklelees 3 жыл бұрын
He probably thought bald Daenerys was himself.
@Spongebrain97 3 жыл бұрын
@@mistonklelees or maybe he thought it was Rhaella
@kevinmendoza1255 3 жыл бұрын
This is what a world of ice and fire implies happened . But if I’m being honestly we will never actually find out bc ggrm will never finish the last Duncan book .
@ziegfeld4131 2 жыл бұрын
@@kevinmendoza1255 he wont finish anything
@varchasvimahajan8273 2 жыл бұрын
It is said that Rhaegar used to visit the Ghost of Highheart and sing her "Jenny of Oldstones" whilst she wept. He used to visit Summerhall often and was obsessed with the prophecy of Azor Ahai too. He too had dreams and visions of dragons and thought dragons and Azor Ahai were linked so this makes sense.
@MrGeorgeFlorcus 9 ай бұрын
So many small tragedies interwoven with the lore of this series. I feel like nobody really talks about the adorably sad story of Duncan Targaryen, the king's heir, rejecting his claim to the Iron Throne to follow his heart and marry the eccentric common girl he truly loved, only for them to both tragically perish in a fire caused by his own father, who was desperately trying to save the Kingdom from falling apart.
@gimpinmypants 3 жыл бұрын
I like how Alt Shift X still uses the illustration of Rhaegar instead of the actor who played him on the show because he was hard on the eyes.
@KyleAKAHerm 3 жыл бұрын
I thought they did a great job casting him
@sobversion3 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly wish they just cast brad pitt as rhaegar and just told him to look like he did when he played Achilles in Troy lbs; wouldve been perfect
@SpirusOfH 3 жыл бұрын
We also only have profile shots of him
@kingerz 3 жыл бұрын
@@sobversion3 too old now maybe
@dreaddark2861 3 жыл бұрын
Thats Facts he is UGLY in the show they could have had anyone hotter or prettier.
@meganmcdonald5229 3 жыл бұрын
If Egg hadn’t misinterpreted the prophecy and burned it all down (in theory), then the Daenerys story line never would have happened like that. So ultimately his misunderstanding was key to Daenerys’ dragons.
@mohamedelhediissa289 2 жыл бұрын
It's the idea of a deterministic future No matter what the characters decide to do,the way things go is already determined/decided by the hands of fate (in this case the author) Egg was fated to cause the summerhall incident so that things play out the way they did (by giving him future visions to misinterpret)
@Spartacus114 2 жыл бұрын
@@mohamedelhediissa289 I think it's less deterministic than it is just a cycle - the characters ultimately choose to follow or not follow the visions, I think part of the point is that if people stopped listening to their dreams they could end up much happier people.
@PhileasLiebmann Жыл бұрын
That's kind of how prophecies always work, isn't it?
@HopeMcfadden Жыл бұрын
But if she hadn’t hatched her dragons, the night king never would have gotten a dragon to break the wall? If we believe that the show storyline is true(ish)
@Kondiqq Жыл бұрын
@@HopeMcfadden In the books, there was a magic horn that could break the magic of The Wall (or tame dragons?). I don't remember, read it years ago. And IIRC Victarion Greyjoy somehow tamed a dragon or went on a quest to do so. There's A LOT more important characters in the books and it gets so complicated, that probably GRRM couldn't untangle it all to make sense so we probably won't have the last two books : P The show merged some characters together and simplified some storylines. Changed some important events too.
@mardock3668 2 жыл бұрын
I think the reason the Wild Fire went out of control was because the dragons actually hatched. According to the alchemist, Wild Fire is more potent when dragons exist.
@betsyromero5248 Жыл бұрын
But then again fire cannot kill dragons and if they did hatchet what happened to them? I don't think he said that Summerhall fell, just burned. Maybe if there was sand, then the dragons got buried.
@bloodraven6 Жыл бұрын
@@betsyromero5248 the dragons got buried prolly. Dang thats sad
@Blackkray777 Жыл бұрын
@@bloodraven6 im sure u had nothing to do with it bloodraven
@jdftrains3507 Жыл бұрын
@@betsyromero5248 fire (from other dragons atleast) can definitely hurt if not kill dragons, during the dance, moondancer was blinded by sunfyre's flames
@betsyromero5248 Жыл бұрын
@@jdftrains3507 Then maybe they can only be killed by fire from another dragon, not any type of fire other than that
@viennperidot1119 2 жыл бұрын
"Only death can pay for life" and "Only a King's blood can wake the stone dragon" combined with the examples we got from the books makes me think that only people of royal bloodlines might carry the magic necessary to conduct a successful dragon-waking sacrificial ceremony. Trueborn or bastard, it doesn't seem to matter so long as they have the right bloodline
@paperreee9110 3 жыл бұрын
They kinda succeeded if you really wanna stretch it, Rhaegar being born this way caused him to be obsessed with prophecy which caused Robert's rebellion, which led to Dany's exile and led to her hatching dragons
@manuelalonsodominguezvazqu2145 2 жыл бұрын
self fulfilling-prophecy
@LostCosmonauts 3 жыл бұрын
0:34 The rest of Westeros? The Resteros?
@horizon_universe9349 3 жыл бұрын
This deserves so much more likes
@lylejustinegay7810 3 жыл бұрын
I love you you beautiful man
@TheSorrel 3 жыл бұрын
Thats probably what the North and Riverlands allience would have been called if the Red Wedding didn't happen.
@azzor4134 3 жыл бұрын
the only way to say "rest of westeros"
@ianalo8170 3 жыл бұрын
ba dum tss
@yasminpadilla5839 2 жыл бұрын
"A cheeky bit of regicide to kick their lifelong alliance." This one made me laugh out loud ngl.
@jethrojacinto2798 Жыл бұрын
I really like the latter theory of Dunk having to kill Egg in that last scenario inside Summerhall. It just fits with GRRM's themes of tragic bittersweet endings. It was never about black and white with GRRM, just like life he wanted to reflect a lot of grey in his story telling.
@zakariaali8864 3 жыл бұрын
-Growing up among the common folk -Learning from a humble knight -Dreamed of being a Knight and defending the innocents as a child -Growing bitter from the politics, war and rebellion -Desiring peace, freedom, justice and security for his citizens -Grows convinced that absolute military authority and power is necessary -Destroying everything in one big event that killed everyone -Paving the way for a mad tyrant to take over -His descendent rebelled against the mad tyrant with a rebellion . . . Egg sounds an awful lot like Anakin "murder the youglings" Skywalker
@PenumbranWolf 2 жыл бұрын
I hate to be sitting here defending the final death throe actions of Anakin Skywalker... But the younglings had to die. They were too old to undo the indoctrination, not old enough to understand what was happening and what had to happen, and too well trained to not be a problem later. They could not be trusted.
@jinxedsphinx3600 2 жыл бұрын
damn! good eye!!
@jinpachibobochan3532 2 жыл бұрын
Well, with enough mental gymnastics, he does.
@mpt3245 2 жыл бұрын
He was still fighting for the smallfolk in the end though. Anakin stopped caring about ordinary citizens.
@jinpachibobochan3532 2 жыл бұрын
@@mpt3245 True, he wanted dragons so he can pass these laws without the noble houses rebelling against him. He didn't want military power for his own benefit, but because otherwise the nobles would rebel and start some shitty war again where the smallfolk have to fight it out for them. But with dragons, no noble would risk themselves.
@Nil.0 3 жыл бұрын
I can totally see Dunc killing Egg to save Rhaella and willingly walk back into the fire to atone for murdering his king and friend...
@aidanjames8816 3 жыл бұрын
“You were my brother Aegon! I loved you...”
@illCMAC 2 жыл бұрын
So this video is awesome, thanks for all the work that went into it. My theory on Summerhall is that Aegon had a vision that drove him to want to use the pyromancers to sacrifice Rhaegar in a fire while he was still in the womb. Dunk saves them and the rest is history until 40 odd years later when Daenerys awakens the dragons with a fire, some magic and her unborn baby as sacrifice. Basically Aegon's vision on how to awaken the dragons was correct but he had the wrong generation of Targaryens.
@kushagraagrawal7292 Жыл бұрын
but if Aegon did successfully sacrifice Rhaegar then Rhaella would be rendered infertile like Daenerys was; so Aerys wouldn't have been able to have more children by her.
@illCMAC Жыл бұрын
@@kushagraagrawal7292 I am only referring to Aegon wanting to reawaken dragons, not fulfill tpwwp necessarily.
@errhka 3 жыл бұрын
The idea that King Aegon did it on purpose is a brilliant bit of speculation. Would love to see a short 3 part TV series just on this tragedy.
@mattaomartinez.9817 3 жыл бұрын
D and d will do it in a 1.5 part series.
@gfilmer7150 3 жыл бұрын
That confrontation between Dunk and Egg in the middle of the burning palace would be like Obi wan fight Anakin on the lava planet
@generalgrievous92 3 жыл бұрын
@@gfilmer7150 Can't wait to read Dunk telling Egg he has the high ground
@gfilmer7150 3 жыл бұрын
@@generalgrievous92 Same. But to be honest, that battle would break my heart.
@xemera1d 3 жыл бұрын
@@mattaomartinez.9817 they kinda forgot there was fire
@LaneyStudios5 3 жыл бұрын
Okay, that little Homer Simpson clip reinforces in me that you are just one of the greatest KZfaqrs of all time
@kingrobertbaratheonofhouse6190 3 жыл бұрын
Rhaegar Targaryen is the night king Littlefinger is a faceless man Davos will be king in the end
@thedeadnightking9975 3 жыл бұрын
@@kingrobertbaratheonofhouse6190 HotPie is Lyanna Stark in disguise and Dunk the Lunk is still alive now calling himself Ser Gregor Clegane
@ardademir1661 3 жыл бұрын
@@kingrobertbaratheonofhouse6190 Ned stark is Quaithe
@mariamatedei 2 жыл бұрын
so simple yet so effective
@angelovargas938 2 жыл бұрын
GRRM: All this prophecy and intermingling plots that are downright impossible to read correctly to determine who will rid the world of the Walkers D&D: Nah bro, just have Arya teleport and stick a guy with a dagger lmao
@squishyturtles1648 Жыл бұрын
Boy have I got down the rabbit hole of game of thrones lores and I love it.
@jayparkerryan3262 3 жыл бұрын
That is possibly the greatest closing line of any piece of media ever Well played ser
@mrlivershot1 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, it caught me off guard and I def had a good laugh 😅
@GlacialScion 3 жыл бұрын
I'm now showing just this line to my Friends who don't know anything about GoT.
@jayparkerryan3262 3 жыл бұрын
@@GlacialScion a flawless introduction if ever there was one
@somegenerichandle 3 жыл бұрын
it's gender reveal parties that are more often known for explosives, but i thought it was funny. Unlike that auntie into horoscope joke.
@jdb7578 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I read your comment and sticked around until the end. You have my thanks
@jon-umber 3 жыл бұрын
Huh, I used to think the tragedy that started Game of Thrones was David Benioff and Dan Weiss having dinner with George R.R. Martin... Then I saw this video and realized how wrong I was!
@noaboahQR 3 жыл бұрын
D&D were really really good at adapting the game of thrones books. The early seasons of the show was maybe the best thing on tv at the time. But then they caught up with the books and....yea haha it was horrible. It's the same problem anime has alot. look at full metal alchemist they had to redo the whole show haha. Idk I know the later seasons sucked but it's hard to make up your own stuff in the middle of someone else's story and it's hard for me to hate them
@noaboahQR 3 жыл бұрын
...then I rewatch the white walker episode and I am filled with pure hate lmfao 😂
@ComradeCommissarYuri 3 жыл бұрын
@@noaboahQR don’t forget the early seasons up until 3 George was still involved with the show
@KhanMann66 3 жыл бұрын
@@noaboahQR They didn’t caught up. They fucking cherry pick the hell out the books and that’s how they ended up running out of source materials. Even when George tried to give them clues on where to go, D&D completely ignored his advice because by that time they didn’t want to do GoT anymore and where ready to jump ship to Disney. Well karma claps hard and Disney dropped them soon after the failure of season 8.
@noaboahQR 3 жыл бұрын
@@KhanMann66 I mean cherry picking was probably for the best. George was planning to do a Time skip but then didn't so all those younger characters stayed younger and honestly it's my least favorite part of the books. Also some stuff in the books really wouldn't have worked well on the big screen. I think the early seasons were absolutely amazing adaptations. As for the ending even George r Martin said in an interview that his book ending won't be that different from the shows so I mean they clearly took his advice. I wouldn't be surprised if after the hate George rewrote a fuck ton of his story adding to the delay. Either way all I meant was it's hard to hate them for trying to continue Georges story and failing
@brendan9868 2 жыл бұрын
George seems to have a cycle with the Targaryen history, every time they repopulate the family he brutally kills them all off again. -Rhaenys gives birth to Aenys -Rhaenys soon after gets killed leaving only 3 targs alive -Aenys has a couple kids -Maegor kills almost half of them -Jaehaerys has a ton of kids -Jaehaerys outlives almost all his kids (if not all can’t really remember) -Family grows from J’s grandkids -Dance of Dragons wipes out almost the entire family -Survivors have some kids -Daeron I, Baelor and Viserys die rapidly -Aegon IV kicks it into overload with having kids -Blackfyre rebellions -Breakspear killed -Great Sickness wipes a ton of people -Blackfyres start to simmer out, Egg repopulates the family pretty well. -Summerhall -Aerys becomes king -Roberts Rebellion leaves a handful left and all either are in exile or on the wall.
@bruhistantv9806 Жыл бұрын
"Ontological incestmaxxing."
@newkingscontent8533 Жыл бұрын
That's how you make unpredictable story.
@Darkstar_Dayne Жыл бұрын
@@newkingscontent8533 If Jon and Dany mary then the family might repopulate again
@akmonra Жыл бұрын
Yeah, but it's probably also pragmatic. I imagine George was realizing how complicated the Family Tree was getting and thought "I've got to kill off a lot of Targaryens"
@newkingscontent8533 Жыл бұрын
@@akmonra George is great at explaining lores with logical explanation
@benkellman4577 9 ай бұрын
I really like the idea that Dunk stopped Aegon from making a terrible sacrifice. That would be a really powerful juxtaposition to no one stoping Aerys from burning all the people he killed. It would even set up a parallel between Dunk and Jamie, who stooped Aerys from burning the whole city down
@jsullivan05 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure Jenny didn't die, it's where the song comes from, her going back to the hall where they all died.
@simonholmes841 3 жыл бұрын
I believe the "halls of the kings who are gone" is referencing Oldstones, the ruined ancient seat of House Mudd, who were kings in the Riverlands. Then again, it was probably written after Summerhall and the context of her tragedy seems to extend before and after her time at Oldstones.
@henryray1537 3 жыл бұрын
There’s a theory that rhaegar wrote Jenny of Oldstones, and it’s basically about her mourning the death of her Husband and Family, some also believe that that was the song that made everyone cry at a tourney (can’t remember which one)
@AAngel548 3 жыл бұрын
I know I am absolutely in the minority, but I think Jenny has a much bigger part to play in the story. I think jenny was under the control of the children and was trying to influence the royal family. I believe something happens at summerhall and Jenny starts the fire, or acts in away that would have killed everyone there, ending the Targ line. If it weren't for the efforts of Ser Duncan the tall.
@dromankass8655 3 жыл бұрын
@@henryray1537 It as at the Great Tourney at Harrenhal, 'where the Prince played a song so sad that it made the wolf maid cry' (Rhaegar and Lyanna Stark).
@sophiawilson8696 3 жыл бұрын
And they never tell us if Jenny Old Stones had children with Prince Duncan!!.
@byjordi2185 3 жыл бұрын
Rheagar as Azor Ahai while Jon and Dany are Lightbringer and Lyanna as Nyssa Nyssa is a theory Ive never thought about, but its so smart in a typical GRRM way - giving the whole setup for the story a even deeper meaning, by making the Azor Ahai an already dead person
@killapositionz2 Жыл бұрын
That has always made the most sense to me. Or at least Rhaegar is azor ahai, Lyanna Nyssa Nyssa and Jon is Lightbringer... Lyanna being killed at childbirth is a close enough connection to the metaphor of being stabbed = sex/conception... it literally says he "thrusted" the sword... weird verbage for stabbing.
@Chuck_vs._The_Comment_Section 2 жыл бұрын
"Summerhall" looks suspiciously similar to Moritzburg Castle. For those who don't know, Moritzburg Castle is in the town of the same name, Moritzburg, which is in the vicinity of Dresden, and Dresden is a city in Germany.
@ANSELAbitsxb Жыл бұрын
My grandpa dropped bombs on dresden.
@tiestofalljays Жыл бұрын
@@ANSELAbitsxb bruh lol
@Caramelo23606 Жыл бұрын
I just feel so bad for Aegon :c He was a normal guy and a decent fellow, but then his kids got crazy (I supossed his parenting didn't help) and when he indulged in some valyrian craziness himself he almost got them all killed
@perfumedmanatee6235 3 жыл бұрын
"Two kings to wake the dragon. The father first and then the son, so both die kings."
@arash_amd 3 жыл бұрын
SPOT ON!
@inearanda8051 3 жыл бұрын
oof
@janakipejov3667 3 жыл бұрын
What
@DonetskiLetsplayshik 3 жыл бұрын
@@Crinjal_2611 melisandre's dudes during adwd when they plan to burn mance and his newborn son
@williamk454 3 жыл бұрын
Double homicide
@diegoandrade467 3 жыл бұрын
I like how part of the theory is Aegon being so disappointed and angry with his kids he straight up tries to burn them to death.
@AlasdairGR Жыл бұрын
If House of the Dragon is going to continue beyond the Dance, I think this tragedy plus a time jump to Robert's Rebellion is the perfect final season for the show. It would tie back with what we learned at the beginning of the series with Viserys obsession about Aegon's and his own dreams and the prophecy, and it gives us the perfect set-up for Aerys and Rhaegar and everything that ensues because of the Mad King and Rhaegar's plans. It kind of ends the series off perfectly leading into Game of Thrones. Egg's ambitions, the Mad King's tyranny, and the rebellion is the final time the House of the Dragon tore itself apart with ambitions gone awry and with a terrible king.
@leomartinez9828 Жыл бұрын
HOTD will definitely be four seasons. I think Robert’s Rebellion from the very beginning should be two seasons but also it’s own show.
@organexploder 10 ай бұрын
@@leomartinez9828 Agreed. Each need their own show
@TAKE_BACK_BRITAIN 4 ай бұрын
Nah if anything it would be better to focus on the Blackfyre rebellions next
@zombie2356 Жыл бұрын
I think that blood is needed only for resurrection of petrified dragon eggs. That's why targaryens never had problems with hatching them in firepits, those were fresh, living eggs. Dany's, and Aegon's eggs were petrified, dead.
@ZombieMaster420 3 жыл бұрын
The amount of mystery that surrounds summer hall and the deaths of Dunc and Egg actually makes me excited for the Dunc and Egg show. Unlike house of the dragon where we know the ending pretty much without any surprises at least this series had a lot of potential for new surprises
@filipe2444 3 жыл бұрын
too bad GRRM will probably never publish a new Dunk and Egg book.
@ZombieMaster420 3 жыл бұрын
@@filipe2444 I think you mean too bad GRRM will probably never publish another ASOIF book
@filipe2444 3 жыл бұрын
@@ZombieMaster420 both really. but if he publishes any I hope it's TWOW
@KhanMann66 3 жыл бұрын
Too bad the end result is still hot garbage. Unless they reboot the whole GoT series I don’t care.
@generalgrievous2438 3 жыл бұрын
@@KhanMann66 Got show* the books are still great.
@hi_austin 3 жыл бұрын
“And when the cops came through, me and Pounce stood next to a burnt down house. With a can full of gas and a hand full of matches, and still weren’t found out. So from here on out, it’s the Chronic II.” - Eminem, or Egg, or something.
@arcadedomination8006 2 жыл бұрын
7:59 to add to this, two deaths (Drogo and Mirri Maz duur) pay for two dragons. But Dany walks into the fire herself, perhaps ready to die. This would give the third and final life despite Dany not dying. Ofc GRRM wouldnt kill off dany right there and she survives, but perhaps this could also mean that willingness to sacrifice yourself has certain power as well.
@braveandblessed9279 2 жыл бұрын
Drogo was already dead, can that count as a sacrifice? And if the answer is yes, then how about baby Rhaego, he could be the 3rd sacrifice, after all he did die as a sacrifice to save his father.
@PedroLucas-mg5je Жыл бұрын
@@braveandblessed9279 Maybe Viserys, Drogo and Rhaego were the sacrifices to wake the dragons from stone, Mirri's burning only maked the hatching!
@braveandblessed9279 Жыл бұрын
@@PedroLucas-mg5je viserys was dead way before the dragons were born
@joshjackson5680 Жыл бұрын
@@braveandblessed9279 I don't think one sacrifice is good for two miracles? That hole shebang is a "special event", GRRM said I think. Dany('s skin) is untouched by fire here, but she can get burned later in the story But don't forget the horse! 🤣 that's a life
@Ashbrash1998 11 ай бұрын
GRRM did comment in a behind the scenes that the Valyriqns had found out with their magic that it wasn't a recipe that made it work, but on who you are, what you want and how much faith you had
@ashara_rhaenys 2 жыл бұрын
I wish you could make more videos about so many dark and mysterious ancient places like Asshai, The Shadow Lands, Stygai, The Heart of Winter, Valyria, Sothoryos, Ulthos, The Five Forts, The Great Empire of the Dawn, The Empire of Yi-Ti...
@imdumbbut1681 2 жыл бұрын
He covers most of these places in his video explaining the East
@princeali1932 3 жыл бұрын
And to think, if Egg's children married who they were suppose to marry, House Targaryen would still be ruling Westeros, longer at least
@marwanali4878 2 жыл бұрын
That would've been quite interesting to see. If that was the case then Duncan Targaryen and the baratheon girl would've been King and Queen which would've been quite interesting to see. Though a certain someone in a tree wouldn't be too keen on all of this
@brandonhargun4512 2 жыл бұрын
@@marwanali4878 who would that be?
@marwanali4878 2 жыл бұрын
@@brandonhargun4512 The name of the Baratheon girl was never told only that she was a daughter of Lyonel Baratheon and the person in the tree was bloodraven
@PedroLucas-mg5je 2 жыл бұрын
@@brandonhargun4512 BloodRaven, of course!
@wilhelmi.9027 3 жыл бұрын
Well, Rheagar did stick his „Sword“ into Lyanna, killing her and „forging“ Jon Snow
@abcdefghij7772 3 жыл бұрын
Omfg
@deepdaddy1208 3 жыл бұрын
😆
@pepegarciasanchez1520 3 жыл бұрын
That's actually what I thought too no joke at all...a good old phalic metaphore, very accurate for ASOIAF and GRRM in general
@theletterm5425 3 жыл бұрын
Does that mean Azor Ahai fucked a lion?
@jedaye47 3 жыл бұрын
@@theletterm5425 or a lion(ess)
@sharonkaysnowton Жыл бұрын
Great video. I loved how you went through all the prophesies. You did a great job sharing this information.
@rogueteacher1 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos are amazing! I could (and sometimes do) listen to your voice all afternoon ❤️
@Cr4nched 3 жыл бұрын
LOL just remembered that they included Quaithe in the show. Glad they tied up that story line so neatly
@davidrich27 3 жыл бұрын
I've never heard the idea that Quaithe wears a mask to cover her scars. I like that.
@Ghalji 3 жыл бұрын
The editing on this video is elite, thanks for making such quality content
@TheUglyMask 2 жыл бұрын
Great Video! Dunk has giant's blood. I think Blood Raven was skin-changing him all along [all Dunk's missing time in the Dunk & Egg stories]. I think he took control of Dunk and instigated the tragedy at Summerhall, probably with a single kick of the pyre.
@merrittanimation7721 3 жыл бұрын
12:27 "Just like your auntie who's like just a bit too into astrology, King Egg's family were heavily influenced by prophecies and dreams of the future." ...Probably should avoid going to any family barbecues with her in the future then.
@DemonicsComments 3 жыл бұрын
Or bringing her to a baby shower 27:36
@mtlacunae8659 2 жыл бұрын
Family: wanna bbq with family? OP: I don' wan i'
@merrittanimation7721 2 жыл бұрын
@@mtlacunae8659 This is true
@Haedox 3 жыл бұрын
Highlight of my day easily (not the fire, your video)
@merrittanimation7721 3 жыл бұрын
That's what they all say.
@sergioizzaqt7707 3 жыл бұрын
Hope you’re doing well man!
@thewolfmanhulk2927 3 жыл бұрын
Never thought you were an ASOIAF fan
@Haedox 3 жыл бұрын
@@thewolfmanhulk2927 i am a diehard alt shift x fan. i think ive been here since the start!!!!
@thewolfmanhulk2927 3 жыл бұрын
@@Haedox nice, seen you on breaking bad and better call Saul too, you have got amazing taste
@zer0953 2 жыл бұрын
thank you for doing these, the story, the illustrations and quotes and everything that went into this has more quality than s8
@kishahngood5825 Жыл бұрын
This would make a great series or movie either or it needs to happen
@AndreXMichael Жыл бұрын
hell yeah a 6 episode mini series or something about dunc and egg ending in the tragedy of summerhall
@LordTomServo 3 жыл бұрын
Season 8 may have dissapointed many, but Alt Shift X never does.
@advaithbala3087 3 жыл бұрын
Last time I was this early we were still mourning the show’s ending
@horizon_universe9349 3 жыл бұрын
Aren’t we still doing so ?
@advaithbala3087 3 жыл бұрын
@@horizon_universe9349 It was the best of times, it was the worst of times
@arpitdas4263 3 жыл бұрын
@@horizon_universe9349 We still are 😔
@RedRoseSeptember22 3 жыл бұрын
Bleh! I refuse to acknowledge that trash.
@fort809 3 жыл бұрын
*the show’s murder
@79klkw Жыл бұрын
Excellent job breaking down the pedigree information so perfectly! And you made is super interesting, as well. Great video, I'm getting ready to do some re-reading, or even starting a new book in this universe, so I appreciate the video!
@Blackhawk211 3 жыл бұрын
If summerhall didn't happen the entire trajectory of the rest of the GoT universe in Westeros would be completely different Alongside the dance of Dragons its the most significant event during the reign if the Targaryens
@gerardolopez6851 3 жыл бұрын
There are multiple events that may have changed history if they have happened in other way. Like, what if Aegon IV have never legitimized his bastards, none of the Blackfyre rebelions would have ever existed.
@Blackhawk211 3 жыл бұрын
@@gerardolopez6851 the blaclfyre rebellions are nowhere near as significant as 90% of the Targaryen dynasty being wiped out over night The dance of dragons eliminated 50% over a couple of years
@gerardolopez6851 3 жыл бұрын
@@Blackhawk211 You're totally right. But now we have a Blackfyre trying to conquer the Iron Throne against the last Targaryen in the ASOIAF world. This may cause the extinction of Targaryens. All I say is that everything in this story has consequences. Big or little.
@Blackhawk211 3 жыл бұрын
@@gerardolopez6851 there is no confirmation that Griff is a blackfyre The mummers dragon could be referring to him as a blackfyre i.e he us a fake Targaryen but it could also be referring to him as a real Targaryen being used by the mummer (Varys)
@deg1studios 3 жыл бұрын
@@Blackhawk211 The Dance of the Dragons is a much more significant event than Summerhall. This is why: First off, it happened much longer ago. The more time that has passed since an event, the more significant it becomes, because overtime the consequences will be magnified. For example, if you go back in time and kill your father as a baby, you and your siblings will not exist. But if you instead go back in time and kill your grandfather as a baby, now your uncles and aunts and cousins will not exist either. But to my main point: The Dance of the Dragons was technically started by Aegon II and the Greens, not Rhaenyra. Viserys I had named Rhaenyra his heir. So if the Dance of the Dragons had never happened, Rhaenyra would have sat the Iron Throne, and one of her children with Laenor Velaryon would probably have followed her. One could argue that if The Dance of the Dragons never happened, then Aegon V would not have been King (nor even existed probably), and so Summerhall wouldn't have happened, and Robert's Rebellion wouldn't have happened, making it automatically more significant than any of those events by themselves (including Summerhall).
@jamessmith2617 3 жыл бұрын
On the off chance that you will see this, I just wanted to thank your for creating such concise and satisfying videos. Your breakdowns cover all the bases, and never leave me wondering. Thanks!
@Chaifloable 2 жыл бұрын
Oooo my man! Been a while since I've heard your Game of Thrones analyses full of humor and intelligence, I've missed you man! Welcome back!!
@bloodyneptune Жыл бұрын
This makes a looot more sense if Egg found out about Aegons asoiaf prophecy, and knew they'd need dragons to defeat the white walkers. He was all about helping the small folk, so what would a guy like that do to protect them from what he found out was coming? Something desperate, I'd imagine
@GemiMinis12 3 жыл бұрын
I think this is the first time I heard that Jon and Daenerys are Lightbringer and not Azor Ahai. It’s an interesting theory to think about.
@thedeadnightking9975 3 жыл бұрын
@Kelvin Higgs 😂
@user-ev8lv7ot1x 3 жыл бұрын
Jon Snow "killing" Lyanna in childbirth Is like Azor Ahai killing his wife with lightbringer
@Knight860 3 жыл бұрын
Dunk trying to save Egg from himself.... kind of rings of Obi-Wan vs Anakin on Mustafar.
@gfilmer7150 3 жыл бұрын
*John Williams soundtrack intensifies*
@roryedward2631 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like they succeeded in hatching an egg at Summerhall, but it was deformed and crazy (which happens) and it went crazy with it's fire and died with everyone else.
@TheCrusaderKing Жыл бұрын
The song Jenny of Oldstones implies that she survived but never got over the deaths, and would return often.
@jfoley715 3 жыл бұрын
Even though HBO’s GoT ending was a disaster, I’m actually excited for House of the Dragon... I’m not ashamed. I miss ASOIAF content. Anybody else?
@nathanielfinestone51 3 жыл бұрын
I want to be excited, but it's hard cause I've been hurt before 😢
@abcdefghij7772 3 жыл бұрын
HBO should hire AltShift and make sure the direction is good so we don't get anymore season 5-8's
@nathanielfinestone51 3 жыл бұрын
@@abcdefghij7772 that's a good call
@aesir1ases64 2 жыл бұрын
@@abcdefghij7772 Season 5 and 6 are still acceptable, season 7 and 8 are hot garbage fanfic level lol
@CaliSmile1 3 жыл бұрын
Could The mad king had scenes of his past playing in his head when he died? And he kept saying “burn them all burn them all” just like perhaps his grandfather was going at summer hall? Possibly trying to “burn them all” as Duncan perhaps saved Rhaegar (and his mother) from his family being used as sacrifices ?
@rexxbailey2764 2 жыл бұрын
OOOOH!! THATS A GOOD ONE!
@rigelvillaruel6564 Жыл бұрын
Burn them all… burn em ol…. uremhall… Harenhall
@stevenw5255 Жыл бұрын
equally likely that bran actually caused the madness in first place but yea
@brothercharlesjohnson 3 жыл бұрын
I love your videos! They keep my love for this series alive after I was traumatized by Season 8 of Game of Thrones, the “Summerhall” of the TV series.
@13nwaffles 3 жыл бұрын
This channel is single-handedly keeping my interest alive in this series
@Opinwood 3 жыл бұрын
This is just incredible content, the standard to which all other literary fantasy channels are to be judged. I still Dream of Spring (and Winter)...
@Jen7867 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, Alt Sift X does amazing work. In Deep Geek, Secrets of the Citadel, and Alt Shift X are my 3 favorite ASOIAF content creators. The quality of their literary analysis is well thought out and well researched, so it is absolutely top notch. I honestly can't seem to get enough of their content. And, to fill my need for deadpan/dry humor, I really enjoy Rawrist. She doesn't delve deeply into analysis very often, but her sense of humor and personality is just great.
@Tehdurkniht 3 жыл бұрын
Dunk being the one to kill Egg would have even more layers considering Dunk's relation to Brienne. Since we know that Brienne descends from Dunk, Dunk killing Egg would make Brienne the blood of a Kingslayer/Oathbreaker. If the story does go this way, I feel like it would add depth to Jamie and Brienne's relationship. It would underscore the hypocrisy that Jamie experiences with the honor and oaths in Westerosi culture.
@scottspa74 3 жыл бұрын
Best ASOIAF KZfaqr there is. Slick graphics and charts help, but it moves a bit fast, sometimes. Love what you do.
@renatosan3832 Жыл бұрын
best video in the channel. so satisfying. thanks for sharing.
@d007ization 3 жыл бұрын
It would be a shame if Egg, much like Ned, couldn't find pragmatic solutions to fulfil his ideals and would ultimately die when he betrays those ideals in a last desperate attempt to combat all the enemies he's unwittingly created.
@chocolateteapot697 3 жыл бұрын
In a world that is lacking ASOIAF content, I thank you for this
@bonbonvegabon 2 жыл бұрын
Best video ever Shwifty. This is a masterpiece!
@Dell88music Жыл бұрын
Love how you spend so much time cultivating this emotionally compelling possibility, and then go "or it could be three other things, who knows!" Possibly your best video. P.s. just caught that Lucas reference in the captions ;)
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