It was great

felt like such a Rick and Morty scene lol

YES

if he hadn't got squished I would have been super disappointed.

I prefer witty dialog for humor over Last Jedi type gags. Maybe it's just me.

His reaction to being sent help by his brother was the most realistic little brother thing I've ever seen on tv it made me LOL

He's a pathetic, petulant child. The only thing he's proven is that his pride is above anything and everything else.

@@willbeard4835 LOL yes!!!!

​@@willbeard4835 the poor mailman didnt deserve his temper tantrum :(

@Batrick Pateman haha yes!

Good take, only thing I was disappointed in is that we didn't see the killing blow, but it was a deliberate choice not to show it.

I get that. But I really wanted to see dark sister at work :)

The crab feeder wasn't the villain, I would have appreciated the scene though

He didnt even need to exist, didnt speak, no story, no death. Just a mini boss for the sake of a battle. Poorly done

@@YanzBra This is a book adaptation, and Craghas Drahar is a character that exists in the books. It's not for the sake of a battle, it's for the sake of the adaptation. As far as I'm aware, the story behind Craghas Crabfeeder is exactly what we got: he was a prince and admiral of the Triarchy that set base on the Stepstones and threatened the trade routes of House Velaryon. He also liked to torture people. Pretty faithful adaptation if you ask me. The Crabfeeder isn't supposed to be a meaningful boss to the overall story, he's there to give more depth to Corlys and Daemon's alliance and storylines. Remember, this is a show about the internal conflicts of the Targaryens, not some random ass Myrish prince.

Immediately made me love Laenor lol

He’s half Targaryan because of his mother

@@ericadomingos2410 I think OP means he's not "Targaryen" in the sense that he doesn't have the Targaryen name. He does of course have Targaryen blood through Rhaenys (his mother) which is why he can ride Seasmoke and come to help Daemon at the end.

He is a Targ that's why he can ride a dragon

@@lochofmceo you don’t have to be a targ to ride dragons

Timestamp?

@@papapudding It was a 4 hour long livestream, how do you expect me to find that one comment?!? ...It was @ 3:39:32 😝

Here's another timestamp ... 6:45 ... I was perplexed as to why an animal that is HUNTED would be considered the symbol of royalty. Then it dawned on me that (in the Holocene), the stag represents the most meat that one could expect to find in the wilds of Europe ... It is abundance-on-the-hoof, with the added aesthetic of muscularity. A king isn't going to celebrate his bounty by associating it with caged cattle ... no, "catch me if you can"

Lion for merciless military might; stag for viril prosperity (self-sufficiency)

I’m dead. …The Real Rhaegar

Take notice that when Viserys started being stern and dominate is when he is drunk, that could foreshadowing of why he drinks so much.

Yeah... You can see glimpses of the Dragon that could have been with Viserys. His tone shift was epic

@@AnwayPramanik He just comes across as cranky, though.

Had that liquid courage going

Paddy Considine is a great chap all round! I asked him a load of questions for a University project a few years ago, and there's no doubt that he's one of the most passionate actors/writers/directors in the UK right now- a true gentleman

for sure

he’s based

lyonel strong is so based

He must be thinking: why am i surrounded by morons?

Favorite member of the small council

I wish he was more good looking 😂 Jamie has set the bar too high lol

He will be treated like tyrion haha

Tbh I think all the characters suffer from this issues things seem so straightforward even the schemes seem to be happening a mere feet away from the intended target idk it seems like characters like LittleFinger will be far and in between in this show

I never would've expected to see K&G here lmfao I hope you guys plan to release a documentary about the Dance once the series is over, I've loved how you portrayed the strategy and tactics behind all the fictional battles so far

@@dav552 Well Larys Strong was just introduced and he is quite a lot like Varys and Littlefinger. We might see some schemes with a little more nuisance following his character if Fire and Blood’s anything to go by.

But just imagine they did a 2 season pre dance prologue, with this writing and acting I think they would have killed it… on the other hand I understand why they want to get to the action, it would have been to risky with more politics and less dragons

It's a small adjustment I think people will eventually come to accept. We were used to so many separate stories unfolding at the same time and in separate parts of the globe in GOT. This world is more focused.

@@peepindis I wouldn't call it a small adjustment, the more detailed storytelling puts GoT a few Levels over HotD for me

@@demian9715 considering that show GOT became too bulky for its own good and needed a slap dash and hasty cobbling together of several storylines, I think this may be a mistake learned

I love the time-jumps honestly. It just makes sense for a time of relative peace and stability in the realm, compared to GoT where it seemed like huge historical events and power shifts happened every other day.

Jon snow?

@@michaelpeck1865 but he doesn’t know anything

@@michaelpeck1865 Snow is culturally and behaviorally Ned’s Son

Yeah, Viserys would have been a great tavern owner or Mayor or something, low level power he'd likely balance well, it's the dizzying heights of absolute power that demands a different man.

@@Canadish viserys shows the kind of person he is by not bonding with a dragon after his original mount died, he didn’t want the power that came with being a dragon rider. He rode balerion out of obligation not desire

Something to note, smith only had one line in this episode! The guy has incredible presence 👏 good example of show dont tell i guess

Yep 100%! Matt Smith is so good as Daemon.

White people creaming themselves over mediocre white actors.

You should show HOTD to your students next time you substitute. That would be a good sex ed course with the C-Section.

i was thinking the same thing! leanor and laena are twins, and we know laena was 12 last episode. it's been 3 years, so we can assume they are 15-16 now. i do think laenor looks older than 15-16 but the dramatic jump in his appearance isn't too far off base.

Yup! I’ve seen guys jump from 4-6 inches within a single summer no BS! I myself didn’t grow any facial hair till way later BUT My Voice got deep Asf when i was 12 almost overnight one day it was hoarse then next morning very raspy

Great point! I also think actively participating in a war for 3 years would age anyone pretty quickly as well.

I've subbed for everything from kindergarten to 12th grade and I think Middle Schoolers are the hardest to handle because they have the attention span of Elementary students with the bodies of High School students.

Like Aegon having a dream of white walkers, and conflating that with his wish to rule Westeros..

@@AltShiftX This level of speculation and mystery surrounding an already expansive and complex story is a testament to how good of a writer GRRM really is.

😱

Harrenthall wasn't stronger than a cave?

Well, Harrenhall is pretty big and easy to spot from the air, as it were. Pretty easy to find the place, and the right place to start a fire. Caves tend to be very small and easier to hide in. Also once you're a few metres in the stone around a cave is probably thicker than the walls of Harrenhall. Historically, Aegon used Balerion's dragonfire to heat up the towers of Harrenhall like a big stone oven and cooked everyone inside. That gets exponentially harder the thicker the stone is (more stone = needs more fire to heat up). So yes, cave stronger than Harrenhall in this case.

​@@Anthony_RIZZelneck Caves are thicker than any wall humans can build i guess

Balerion was a big boi with an internal nuclear reactor, Caraxys is a noodle boi who’s fire is more like napalm on steroids, not quite as powerful as Balerions nuke breath

They make it look like Daemon flew in there as the hero that will avenge his men, then the squish happens and we realize oh right he doesn't give a shit, he's just there to burn stuff

@@sou713 I assumed Daemon did not see or hear the knight when he landed on him. The whole landing on the knight shows that the knight is small compared to the whole war. I mean the knight looks like an ant from 3,000 feet up. He was collateral damage. Kind of like a passenger jet landing in the middle of busy downtown NYC and the wheel touching down over a person.

It came off to me funny yes but also as a mercy. The man was literally in the middle of being eaten alive. A nice clean death by dragon stomp was much better. Unless someone was expecting Daemon to jump down off the dragon and untie him personally lol the dude was about to be a meal. If I were him I would have appreciated the quick death.

me too, it looked like it was planned bcoz the whole army is there on time.

I thought that was obvious as Daemon was looking towards the sky again and again

Not just the plan, but the plan that Laenor argued for.

Regardless, as part of the plan Laenor did save Daemon. But I understand it was all planned, as Daemon frequently looked up to the sky.

Yeah they literally say that a mad man needs to drag them out so they can killed them with dragons, cuz if they send just the dragons they would go into cover before anything is done. And I see ppl all around saying that it is just out of nowhere plot armour, like did ya even see the same show?

hopefully it progresses but it is not contagious! otherwise, rip Daemon

Yeah, didnt daemon touched him by dragging him out of the cave?

When you play the game of plot armour, you win or you fall in one of your own plot holes and die. It is known. I really, really hope they handle this somehow and not just use a "Daemon kinda forgot" card. I can't handle that kind of trauma.

@@neloangelo7297 right, like no gloves or anything?

@@neloangelo7297 targaryuns cant get greyscale duhhh

Yeah, the way I interpreted it, over the 3 years the war has been going on, Craghas would logically know at this point that Caraxes answers to Daemon. So when he saw Daemon coming forward to "surrender", he was skeptical, and sent only a few men at a time, while looking up to search for Caraxes. When he saw that Daemon had fallen and was now extremely vulnerable, and still Caraxes hadn't shown up, he correctly assumed he just wasn't going to show up at all, and sent his men forward to trap Daemon and ensure he died there, as that would be a gigantic victory for him. And then, of course, Laenor and Seasmoke ruined his day.

He's in the battle. He roasts the archers on the ridge, riderless.

@@DrGanjameister wasn’t that seasmoke?

​@@DrGanjameister That was Seasmoke

@@DrGanjameister that’s was laenor who was riding seasmoke.

Probably has access to a review copy

@@gus9663 yeah but he kept pulling stuff up not directly relevant to the episode. It was wild.

I think he once introduced a new software which works like the search function of iOS (ai recognizes the scene)

He has a software program and everything has a tag that he types in when someone mentions anything from whole GoT universe ... he's very meticulous with his videos .. the best KZfaqr 👌

@@noizW when did he say this?

Tommen's actor also played another character. I know Game of Thrones has a lot of actors and I do like the Jason Lannister actor, but can they really not find enough actors to get a new one for each role?

@@greywolf7577 might be that they just really like the actor and know they work well with the team

@@greywolf7577 They liked killing Tommen's actor so much they just had to do it twice.

Yep. He beat him into the middle of last century. Horrifying.

Daemon surviving the suicide mission was bad writing, pure and simple. He didn't do it in a clever manner. The wall of arrows only connects when Daemon is near cover? The men only attack him one at a time? Daemon didnt survive because of any real character traits or clever tactics. He survived because he is the main driver of the plot, and so can't die in the 3rd episode. Horrible battle scene. Goes completely against what made early GOT great.

@@HaroldDipp Yeah, he survived kind of by chance - but then this happens. Sometimes people survive because they're lucky. This isn't really bad writing, especially since at some point he kinda seemed f*cked, hurt by two arrows and surrounded.

Why is Viserys acting like he can't change the heir? Heirs change all the time as people are born and die. If Viserys's son hadn't died in episode one, he would have become the heir even though he already had an older daughter. So why do these extra three and a half years matter? If he was going to grant his last son the chance to be heir to the throne, he should grant his current son the same right.

@@greywolf7577 Well Viserys made the decision to name Rhaenyra heir partly in memory of his dead wife, and he truly cares about his daughter. That's why he's uneasy about giving to Aegon what is now hers.

@@HaroldDipp you guys are absolute cry babies

🍻to the last part especially

i've got mixed feelings. On one hand i'm glad grrm is helping this show be great. On the other, I just want him to finish asoiaf like goddamn it george

I’d love to see a parody of America, FUCK YEAH!!! Set to Westeros battle scenes and with lyrics changed to reflect what’s on screen

“I saw things I know and I clapped”

Robert Baratheon killed by a boar, Rhaenyra Targaryen tore that shit up

Wow I didn't notice that. Thanks for pointing this out you got an eye for detail

Wow, interesting detail. Thanks

Yeah in the last episode they where discussing having to remove the 2 fingers to save the hand. Happens a little different in the book but it's a accurate detail

@@srb2591 nah that's the thing: it was one Finger before, now there's already anozher one

Yeah I saw that, the stubs don't look too healthy

@@Winter-Alpha-Omega Oh no I know I read the books. I just felt that they did this scene so well. It still basically predicts that it will be her line that will sit the Iron Throne.

​@@spearshake4771 And it's all good writing, nothing like this was mentioned in Fire & Blood. I know the majority of ideas must be coming from George himself but still it's so refreshing to see the whole fantasy side being explored here

@@Darkstar_Dayne exactly. I feel if George was still involved with GoT and Dan and David were replaced we would have had a better paced ending

@@Darkstar_Dayne its also cool getting to view all of this from a "fly on the wall" perspective because after all Fire and Blood is a subjective account/history book relying on very vague and controversial sources and getting to compare the book and show is quite cool

@@spearshake4771 that's cool, so there's still new content for book readers then

“only” 40 dragon rider houses

I know, right?

the jon snow tv show were those final seasons of got that we never got

Im looking forward to it actually lol its gonna be a mini series so why not give it a go.

It would be another Rings Of Power as they have no source material

@@Darkstar_Dayne Agreed.

They've done something with the hair and makeup to make the aging work.

@@AVerySillySausage Thoughts on Slasher to FaZe?

@@ChrisLamia He got blessed but will probably make the best of it.

Year but like only 2 years and a few months have passend 💀

@@sayaalicious9146 yes but 2-3 years can make a big difference while you’re a teen. A 12 year old boy looks a lot different than a 15 year old boy, right?

English King's claimed to be Lord of Ireland and King of France long before they controlled any large swathe of Ireland and long after they'd been banished from most of France so I guess its borrowed from that

@@georgewright3949 yeah, I was gonna say every king until George III held the title ‘King of France’ regardless of how much French territory they held

China's claim on Taiwan today, completely laughable wishful thinking.

Didnt british royals at some time also have the name "King/protector of Jerusalem" some time after crusader kingdom fell

@@yetipotato8567 sounds plausible unsure how true it is

I like that. If you remember King Robert and Ned's trip from winterfell to Kings landing, Robert says something along the lines of "Gods! This is country! I have half a mind to leave em all behind and keep going," and I think that kind of supports what you're saying about Robert's character. The man was a warrior, he was never meant to be a king.

Good point kid

Fuck why didn't I think of that.

Yeah, but, for an honorable person, what their enemies did shouldn't affect their morals.

@@MondeSerenaWilliams Daemon is many things. Honor is not one of them.

basically yeah.

Facts

@Immortal Science of Hauntology he was still a schemer; arranging the red wedding, setting up marriage proposals, etc

I, on the other hand, hate when people compare Otto to Littlefinger. Otto is a good politician who schemes, but all of his plots are pretty straight forward (get his relatives on the throne, win some policy debate). That is nothing compared with Littlefinger who is able to control events from afar and kill kings with ease if he gets the fancy. Otto is a good politician. Littlefinger is a genius one.

@@greywolf7577I mentioned that comparing him to littlefinger is problematic as well. They have completely different motivations. I think during an interview Matt Smith said that people will always compare and contrast the characters and archetypes of got with hotd. Sadly there's not much you can do about it.

The only reason Tywin didn’t have to move the way Otto did is because he was first born. He didn’t have to snake his way to the top.

Holy shit he was such a big presents that i didn't even notice that.

@@nursetobee. My mistake, he did actually have a line in the first scene after Caraxes lands on the guy, Daemon stalks around on caraxes saying “where are you” looking for the crabfeeder. BUT STILL the whole arc later on with getting the letter and waving the white flag and killing the crabfeeder, THAT was all wordless.

While I liked Matt Smith's portrayal of Daemon in this episode, I think he may have been second on the bill due to the fame of the actor rather than the importance of the character in this episode.

@@greywolf7577 That’s not how opening credits works

I think this is because those families are all descendants of the Great empire of the dawn, a pre long night society in Essos that we get very little information on. These were the original dragonriders and the builders of Asshai. In the first book Daenerys had a dream/vision of some dudes with flaming swords and fancy coloured eyes and I think silver hair but I can't remember. They could be the emperors of the Great empire of the dawn, her ancestors. This is why these ancient houses are so powerful, the Dayne's have the sword Dawn, which has a lot of parralels/could be the ancient sword lightbringer, a GEOTD Mythical weapon. The Hightower's have old town, which has a structure (I can't remember which one) made of the same oily black rock seen in Asshai. And of course the Targaryens have the blood of the dragon. These three families have these common traits like hair colour and fancy eyes because they have ancient ties to an old and mostly forgotten people. Edit: damn this was all in the video I just got to this point lol.

Also when Daemon got hit and Caraxes "squealed" (doesn't feel right to say he roared there) That immediately got me thinking that when they say that Targaryens "bond" with their dragons, they literally mean it.

@@sou713 targaryens are good people

The bloodmages did some shit with dragons and valyerians.

Yep

Yea I also noticed that. Truly shows that Viserys is getting older. Maybe he is even aging faster with the stress of the position and prolly not that healthy lifestyle.

@@yetipotato8567 slowly drinking more like every king and queen.

Exactly what I was thinking after I guickly did the math. Rhenyra would be early 30s when baby Aegon comes of age. I have seen that marriage in the game and rarely that would produce any children.

I was thinking the same! You could get away with it if the genders were reversed but not in this case.

Exactly. Like, we know as readers that Rhaenyra seems to be fairly fertile (that felt gross to say, but bare with me), but Viserys doesn't know that. More importantly, Aegon doesn't know that. He'd probably hate Viserys for giving him a, like, ten year window to crank out kids, especially considering all the stuff with Aemma.

@@dnacat5062 Was Rheonyra specially fertile or was THE SEED STRONG lol

I wonder if maybe the Hightowers suggested the marriage between Aegon and Rhaenyra so that if something "unforseen and tragic" happened to her, the hypothetical King Aegon could remarry, and the hightower line would have an even more advantageous position in politics/ the line of succession.

@Senso What CGI do you think looks bad? The only part which jumped out at me was the funeral in episode 1, beyond that I think it's been fairly good.

@@Beatness121 I think the dragons have been pretty great so far and much better than the GoT series. The white deer was pretty solid as well.

@Senso Yeah I have to agree that battle felt disappointing to me. There was 0 sense of danger for the characters. I've been thoroughly enjoying the show but this battle was not impressive. Completely bereft of tension IMO and you really need that in action scenes. Hopefully the action later down the line is better.

exaggeration is a nice drug aint it? this show does not look better than "some" GoT stuff. its a step below GoT. big budget doesnt make your show look or feel better. GoT had a low budget before the battle of black water but it made up for the lack of on screen fights by having interesting characters verbally clash with each other. behind all of Little Finger's conversations are clues about who killed Jon Arynn. we also got characters discussing ancient histories of other mysterious characters like Gregor Clegane. none of that is in HoTD. the pacing for HoTD is also a drag considering we are stuck listening to political expositions for 1 hour instead of natural conversations/schemes we should be keeping an ear out for and some of the actors need better direction or retakes as you can hear their struggles in keeping an accent. Matt Smith included. it aint easy to act but the directors should have a sharper eye for these problems. also the "time skips" are so invisible that it takes away any character growth we are suppose to witness. how are we suppose to know Daemon has been fighting Mr. Krabs and his Bikini Bottoms army for 3 years? i dont see any battle scars, facial wrinkles, some sort of stressed out emotion. we do see Rhaenrys go ape shit on that wild boar and we should have seen Daemon do the same to Prince Drahar. also the dragon's fire breath looks like some unfinished transparent CGI rendering. in GoT, you felt the fire of the adult dragons cook their victims because there would be a detailed explosive burst of heat before the BBQ-ing sets in.

I think the king sloppily kills the Hart. It seemed to be a difficult thing for him both emotionally and physically

I thought he was going to say "me" lol. The grandson makes more sense though.

@@swiftfated same I actually laughed when I thought about him saying that and when he said aegon I laughed even more

Wasn't there a, I think it was Preston Jacobs, video about how it might be X-chromosomal? And the math checked out? It also seemed like something GRRM would do. Take a romantic fantasy concept ("royal blood") and then go "this, but realistic and with all the shitty, ugly implications it would actually have" like incest and superstitious medieval people trying all kinds of magic tricks to summon their abilities. And the idea of making it x-chromosomal and then having that play out in a patriarchal society with no idea of genetics is just so juicy it seems in character for George.

Sounds like we will see casterly rock in the show at some point

@@willbeard4835 so are they gonna retcon it if they ever will show the Rock?

@@lanceandrew1319 honestly I hope so. I wouldn't be upset if they retcon everything post season 4.

@@willbeard4835 I'm on board for retcons. We can all just pretend the og show was some alternate timeline and whatnot. At least, that's my head cannon 🤣

@@lanceandrew1319 I blocked out the long night. Everything else happened except episode 3 in my head. It was so bad I prefer to believe the white walkers didn't come.

That's a great point! I didn't notice that.

​@Acacio Moore After reading several comments and searching I found that Targaryens do get greyscale.

Daemons main character trait is attention seeking brat, he specifically asked Viserys for help and then gets upset when Viserys sends help.

Nice catch.

Thank you! A lot of these characters are of similar ages and have similar names. This makes it a little easier to differentiate

Plus they are well in their acting so far, so I don't mind the minor changes

oh yeah, never thought of that

Aside from making it easy to tell them apart, black people with silver blond long hair just looks cool af.

EXACTLY

Even without armor it's realistic. We have countless historic accounts of people fighting on after being hit by an arrow. It's not an insta-kill weapon.

Even without armor it's realistic. We have countless historic accounts of people fighting on after being hit by an arrow. It's not an insta-kill weapon.

Even without armor it's realistic. We have countless historic accounts of people fighting on after being hit by an arrow. It's not an insta-kill weapon.

@@olenickel6013 I'd be a bit concerned about the arrow to the knee, tho. That would be debilitating. Nobody is going to do any running after that kind of damage.

@@texasman1836 a woman was able to finish a gymnastics routine with a shattered ankle, so it can be done. (And I think the arrow hit the calf, not the knee exactly)

Bruh, I thought he was a prince who had acquired greyscale, lost everything and now is out for blood because he realises how fickle life can be and how not much matters.

After his death another Prince arrives I don't remember the name but as soon as Daemon leaves The Stepstones are gone again

@@Darkstar_Dayne could you elaborate more on what happens to the stepstones when Daemon leaves?

I want to enjoy the show but they need to stop overtly reminding me of got 🙄

He's half Targereyen you can expect that from a dragon lord

@@Darkstar_Dayne To ride a dragon, a person has to bond with the dragon. Once the dragon and the rider have bonded, that dragon will not allow anyone else to mount it while its rider lives, no matter how familiar said person might be to the dragon.

His heir needs to win some glory and personal influence, plus he's a grown man by the standards of the realm. And fighting from a dragon is pretty much the safest position he could be in, compared to his father and uncle

@@ccdsds3221 hmmmm, SPOILERS. . . . . . . . . . not super sure, but didnt the targz employed anyone that can try and ride dragz and some were succesful and was able to ride dragz even if they had zero targ blood and no baby dragon cradle bonding... mot sure if it was plothole, or something martin forgot... jom also just suddenly started riding after touching a dragons (not that that season truly exist anyway)

@@asasipogi spoilers . . . . . . . You're thinking of the Dragonseed, but those are ostensibly all Targ bastards.

Another thing I noticed was even viserys reinforcements were a half measure. Cause when you see what he was sending it honestly didn’t feel like enough

Yeah it's an empty plotline because we know it ends up going nowhere

I thought he was going to get injured

Aye, he was awfully close to those antlers and awfully sluggish with hungover and oldness.

I mean it was funny though

yeah but targs are also like magical lol theres vague stuff in the book that targ might of slept with dragons, having literal dragons blood in them lmao and other sorts of beasts

what if it works like stack overflow...

@@TheInfectous push the limit of incest so much it zeros the other side lol

I actually thought it perfectly showed the opportunistic nature of Baelish's plotting; he had no idea who had really done it, and played along with it to turn it to his own advantage. It shows the cannablising of the Lannisters by how Joff indirectly fucks over and almost kills Tyrion.

Joffrey overhears Jaime discussing how it would be a mercy if Bran died in the fall rather than having to live life broken. I think it’s believable

@@blaertes4976 He overheard Robert, not Jaime. But I agree you can make it work without holes. I'm saying it's just obvious GRRM didn't plan that from the start. He had to make something work to keep the story going, and wrote that to make sense.

@@blaertes4976 I don't think Joffrey would care if a boy was suffering. He might kill someone for fun, but he isn't going to pay an assassin to kill someone just so he can sooth their pain. But I'm willing to overlook this particular plot hole. There are bigger fish to fry.