His decision? He literally just said I will stay with you here to be the husband you deserve and will protect our boys to Rhaenyra. She was the one who set him free for his happiness. Both of them are more happy and more powerful now, just as they wanted.

Rhaenyra's decision. She got him away from Westeros because he was not capable of protecting the child or being a husband and despite all that she still cared enough about him to set him up with a new life away from the ensuing danger. I'd have kill him if not for his mother princess Rhaenys being a dragon rider who I could earn undivided loyalty from should I ensure her only living child a safe and happy life in Essos.

@@basak9746 but he always wanted to leave with his lover lmao

@@Freya1412 you do what???

A smart sailer does not await the storm, they sail away

Al & Cris really do deserve each other lol

Rhaenyra was too preoccupied to make heart eyes at Daemon at the funeral to give a shit about anyone else...🙄

@@marti9734 real !! daemyra so in love thanks for realizing it

Her Dad literally the reason ALL of this happens really, like the whole damn show

“Hand turns loom. Spool of green, spool of black.”

@@MT-UK Him and Viserys, simply for being too much of a good man, imo. Surely he manipulated both Alicent and the king like a fiddle, but the final call was still his. Man literally asked every advisor in the realm who would be the better bride and still chose wrong. Also, despite being his duty since tragedy could claim Rhaenyra just as it did Aemma, by remarrying and having a son after naming a girl his heir, one that would surely already have her succession challenged simply bc of her gender once he passed, pretty much sealed the deal. He should really have seen this coming 😭

@@blurrylinesx8039 No, the manipulation lies solely with her father. If he wasn't there, she wouldn't have devolved into the crazed borderline psycho regardless of whether Viserys married her or not. Blaming Viserys for what happened is like a thief stealing someones wallet and blaming the victim.

@@Tattle-by-Tale What i mean is, even if Viserys had married someone else, he would still have created sucession disputes simply for not backtracking on having Rhaenyra as heir, the moment his firstborn son arrived. Had he married Laena for example, Corlys would certainly want that boy to be heir as well, just like all the men in the realm, Rhaenys even warned Rhaenyra about it. The difference is he got really unlucky with the hightowers, and specially Otto, bc I could see those disputes being settled with a marriage like Rhaenyra proposed were the heir a Velaryon. Alicent tho, brainwashed by her father, will never allow that to happen. Viserys also should have taken his family warnings about Otto more seriously. Not his fault for being naive or perhaps just a dreamer, but still a bummer that's how things played out

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Hot'in fresh out the kitchen

Facts, gotta tame em quick

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How dare you, sir, lol. Someone steals my Mom's car at her wake and the knives are coming out.

She's not going to last very long. The good ones rarely do. F you, Uncle Daemon!!! 🍷 🧀 😁

@@TeamDaemon1980well there Daemon, you should embrace her not kill her lol

@@TeamDaemon1980 Daem0n didnt killed her. What happened t0 her was unf0rtunate. But the Greens drew the first bl00d.

@@mannylugz5872 Well, not really if you count the blacks were the ones to attack and take an eye out of Aemond.

Dude's a douche, but he's one of the most harmless characters around.

I’m waiting for this show to make me hate him too… every character I start to root for turns around and does some diabolical shit lmao

*AEGON* *II:* *A* *Comedic* *F-Up* The more I watch all the Aegon II scenes, the more I'm LMAO! 🤣 Watch Alicent slap Aegon hard at the face and he's like, "What's that for?” Then Aemond blames him when it's really his mother who started those bastard rumors. It's like Aegon is Johnny Lawrence when Johnny was around the same age. He's all about chasing hot babes and getting drunk. Almost every scene Aegon is in seems hilarious whether it's unintentional or not. Like what did Aegon do this time so Alicent can start hitting and yelling at him? Alicent should be charged with child abuse. You don't see Rhaenyra laying hands on her children while Alicent is a deranged mother looking like she wants to strangle all her children. Aegon's greatest hits after two episodes... - He pranked Aemond and then lied. - He masturbates from a window. - He calls his brother a tw@t. - He feels indifferent about the throne. - He mocks his sister for being so weird. - He's into creatures with long legs. - He gets completely wasted in a funeral. - He gets yelled at by his grandpa. - He gets yelled at by his parents. - He gets slapped in the face by his mom. - He gets blamed by his brother. Aegon is not harming anybody but is a total f-up. I'm starting to like him! Can you believe he is just second of the same name from Aegon the Conqueror? He's the typical horny teenager. Even his parents seem to know he's already an f-up from all the screaming towards his face! I know people be hating on Rhaenyra on some of her irresponsible crap she's done. But has Aegon showed any good qualities being a king? Hell no. He's the guy who gets high on cocaine and Ecstasy. Only thinks about getting laid. Jerks off to Pornhub at least 3 times per day. So basically like most males in their teens and 20s. He reminds me of myself and a bunch of other people I know. 🤣 A walking meme waiting to happen. I'm starting to love Aegon. Keep watching every little scene with him. He's quite a character. An on-screen gag. Rhaenyra's so-called challenge for the throne when he seems more mentally challenged like his siblings. And yet, the less destructive between him and the two insecure women who were former besties. *Aegon* *the* *Fapper* is NOT trying to kill anybody. He doesn't mind if his half older sis will have the throne. He seems to get along with Jace and Luke. He just wants to masturbate and get drunk. Let him, Alicent. Stop pushing your son to something he doesn't want. He's basically Jason Biggs from American Pie. He's no different than Tyrion. Brothels and wine. Harmless recreational activities. Nobody dies. Nobody gets raped. Aegon is just a squirrel 🐿️ trying to catch a nut.

@@miss.seroton1n Yup. That's usually how it goes. 🤣 These Targaryens are crazy inbred bastards. Love. Hate. Love again. Hate again. GRRM has a sick mind.

I don't feel too bad for him just because he's spoiled but also I'm sure both Aemond and Aegon knew that Viserys wouldn't do anything to them but he could have Alicent banned or something.

Bruh same.

For real she's the only one with any since

Rhaenys and Viserys are the only adults in the series. Not glory seekers. Viserys just wants to play with his Legos.

@@TeamDaemon1980 visarys just wants to live in piece but his crazy ass family always starting shit

I hated her this ep. Brushing passed Rhaenyra and pushing snubbing the boys….

@@Ashley_e It hurts for the kids but I can’t exactly blame her at the same time. Her daughter in law has had no children by her son, they aren’t her grandkids and she is already emotional in the moment.

Exactly if they included the fact Ilyn Payne was helping Jaime learn to fight again like the books people would probably understand it easier. They picked Ilyn because he didn’t have a tongue and like you said unless you’re highborn it’s likely you can’t read

True but …. Like…. Maybe westeros has their own version of emojis to use 👸🏻+🩼👨🏻‍🦯💪🏼🗣🙋🏻‍♂️- 🤐-🥷🏻🥷🏻🥷🏻🕯🏰🔥- 💪🏼👴🏻✋🏻☠️+💪🏼🧔🏻‍♂️☠️

@@EmBlanca it was easy to understand. Remember Tywin gave Arya shit because she claimed her father, a stone mason, taught her to read.

@@havok6280 maybe for you but if you watch enough reactions on KZfaq you realize the general audience doesn’t pick up on much.

@@EmBlanca Tbf it's kind of weird that Ilyn Payne is illiterate because he's highborn.

I was wondering where he went

Daemon literally murdered an innocent BLACK man and yet people still call Daemon grey. What the hell??

@@larochejaquelein3680 That's because in fiction, the definitions of "white, black and grey" are all directly tied to who is being affect by it, and people have no reason to care for extras that appeared for like 5 minutes and then were offed, especially when said character its already established to be a killer. It's not like Daemon killed him for being black or his wife for being a woman, it's because their deaths were both means to get what he wanted. Furthermore, as the lines between heroes and villains start to get even more blurry, him killing random characters that barely have screentime is not nearly as bad for the audience as the hand that pimped out his anxious teen daughter to the king or the sleamy guy that set his brother and father on fire without an inch of remorse

@@larochejaquelein3680 We don't know for a fact he was innocent. We don't know anything about that man. Daemon did a lot of shit and clearly has no filter for saying or acting the way he does, but in this episode, he protected Rhaenyra's children, helped her husband escape to be happy and just basically created a better picture of himself that any of the episodes before. The crazy man I thought him to be would not be half as careful as he was with Rhaenyra and her feelings. So, yes, dark grey. And also, to compare with people murdered thanks to Alicent...or Cole...He's fine.

@@larochejaquelein3680 Well the skin had to match Laenor's you slow minded freak. edit: sorry that was mean. I meant to call you a racist, because you're the only one here making him killing that man about race.

Yes 😢 I’m not ready for it either 💔

Sunfyre

Ramsey actually pr0phesied his 0wn d0wnfall.

Yah true. This is also just not a happy show in general.

Daemon was never as good as Criston is, criston is the superior soldier.

@@kylemma33 Cope. Criston only won their initial duel because Daemon gloated. Guarantee you Criston wouldn't have half a chance pulling off the shit Daemon pulled off in the Stepstones in episode 3. First off he wouldn't have the balls the do it, and he'd be too preoccupied with his honor, and even if he got past both of those he would have fucking died before he even made it close to as deep as Daemon ran. He's 100% not as clean as Daemon, both in terms of his weapon play or his maneuvering through all those arrows and men. Criston's best feats are knocking Daemon off his horse, attacking him from behind after getting his ass beat, and beating Laenor's boyfriend to death at a wedding. I don't have to restate what Daemon's best feat is. Criston is a knight and a soldier, Daemon is a fucking hero and one of the baddest fighters in the history of Westeros. They aren't even close or comparable lmao, Criston is a footnote, Daemon's heroic feats are literally legendary in Westeros. Talk to me when Criston does the shit Daemon is gonna pull off later in the show, if you know you know.

yeah he probably suffers from some form of dementia already, she was not the only one being refered to by wrong name

I’m not sure he thought it was funny but he def picked up the passive aggressive bs. I think it was his way of telling the guy he gets it and it’s enough and take attention off the kids.

@@GlennShook I agree with you. The only reason I say he thought it was funny cause in the previous episode with his wife(don't want to butcher her name) he seemed to get a kick off it. Just my 2 cents

No that’s not what happened. Are you kidding? He was laughing at the brother for thinking his blood is superior while bashing Targaryen blood.

@@Ashley_e It was to distract from Rhae

THIS!!!!!

How TF does everyone forget that THE HUMAN DOES NOT DECIDE THE RIDER, THE DRAGON DOES?? That spoiled brat girl was owed NOTHING.

Everyone's performances are great. What this show lacks is pacing imo

They did in the books. They changed Rhaenys look in the show. In the books she has dark hair from her mother, so that excuse is used as to why the boys have different hair.

Rhaenys looks like a Baratheon in the book (with purple eyes). It’s the main excuse they use to explain the Strong boys looks away. They gave Rhaenys the typical Valyrian hair in the show. Who knows why. Maybe they thought we’d be confused if she didn’t look like a Targaryen.

Yeah I was going to say I’m pretty sure Rhaenys had dark hair in the books, which make sense, as Baratheon children ‘always’ have dark hair (GOT already pretty much established this with Ned going through the books when he uncovered the Lannister secret) It would have been better to do that here I have zero issue in the skin colour - I’m not on board with all the hate these shows get for that - but it DOES make it harder to pull off Having Rhaenys have her original look it would make it better imo

@@octaviablackthorn9 I knew she had dark hair in the books, but I'm glad they used that reasoning in the books! Hopefully in the show too.

@@irerin they can't on the show because they decided to give her silver hair.

Vhagar was initially "stolen" by Laena. All the dragons were with the Targayens originally accept those gifted as eggs to Rhaenys children. Like Seasmoke.

Laenors dragon went with him. He's still bonded

@@QuackTape21 I very much doubt it. Hard to stay anonymous if you’re travelling with a DRAGON lol

@@Drummer4President he's not riding him. Lol

@@QuackTape21 obviously not. But if Seasmoke went with him, then you’ve still got to hide, house and feed a wholeass dragon, whilst trying to stay anonymous.

Viserys like “I will turn this realm around!”

I don't think Vhagar has any experience of dragon vs dragon combat at this point. Only Balerion had killed another dragon in combat before the Dance, when Maegor was riding him. Vhagar was alive at the time, but I don't think she partipated in any of the battles.

@@davidjones272 Did Visenya take Vhagar out for some battles after the conquest? But yeah it wasn't Vhagar who had combat w/ another Dragon -- it was Balerion only with Maeghor

He clearly had school shooter vibes last episode.

@@ur9287 Vhagar has way more battle experience than the others, both before and after the conquest. But I don't think she's ever fought another dragon in any of them

Well 100% In the previous episode when Alicent says “you will have a dragon” Helaena said “He will have to close an eye” I mean 🤷🏻‍♂️

@@MT-UK Yes. Guess the audience is left to interpret. She said a bit more last episode and this episode, she had prophetic words as well. So good and glad they gave Helaena this role,

@@shockwave1126 yeah the ones in this episode seem to directly point at the dance of dragons - the civil war looming - "Hand turns loom; spool of green, spool of black. Dragons of flesh, weaving dragons of thread." Hand (Otto Hightower maybe as he’s hand) turns loom - which is basically something that turns yarn into fabric so he’s taking something and creating something - so taking Alicent his daughter and making her into the head of the ‘Greens’ .. spool of Greens / Blacks - creating each side - dragons of flesh .. the children of both sides being young dragons weaving (controlling, manipulating etc) dragons of thread .. the real dragons I dunno maybe I’m going DEEP but 🤷🏻‍♂️

@@MT-UK Sounds good. Thinking "dragons of flesh weaving dragons of thread' relates to the war banners.

Omg please? I can’t with these episodes. Though ep8 wasn’t as bad. I haven’t read the book.

Honestly, it /is/ her fault for not claiming it earlier. They didn't have to attack him though, so the fault lies squarely with /them/ for escalating. Still can't believe anyone is attacking Aemond for taking the opportunity and for defending himself when /he/ was the one bullied. Victim blaming at it's finest.

@@Adanu191That’s certainly one way of framing the scene, but I think if you watch it with a different perspective, you’ll see that Aemond was not a victim at all. First, he claims a dragon that should have gone to a girl who just lost her mother. Despite whether he technically had the ability to claim it without breaking any rules, it was an awful and selfish thing to do. Then when they rightfully accuse him of taking the dragon, he says “maybe your cousins could find you a pig to ride, it would suit you.” Remember, Aemond’s cousins have nothing to do with the bullying Aemond has dealt with. This insult is directed at a girl he barely knows, who just lost her mother, and now her dragon. In this situation, he has become a bully. So that causes the younger girl to rush forward. Then, notice that the way he slams her into the rocky ground uses an excessive amount of force. This may seem like self defense, but I’d argue that when your that much older and stronger, you have the responsibility to not hurt your attacker more than they have the capability to hurt you. That is what causes the older girl to slap him, then he slaps her. Then it escalates from there. Though Aemond begins to be surrounded, I still say this was his own fault for his selfish, arrogant, and violent actions up to this point. He keeps threatening them the whole time as well, and continuing to needle that he’ll feed them to “his” dragon. And then, he picks up a rock, holding a boy by his neck, seemingly ready to smash it into the boys skull. He then insults them further, hitting them with the bastard line, and that causes the knife to be brought out. This may seem like a major escalation, but Aemond could very easily kill with that rock he was holding. Both sides escalated the conflict, but since it was Aemond who ultimately started it, and was the most cruel and heartless throughout, I think it was own fault that he lost the eye.

@@calvinjohnson6242 So he's to blame for her lack of ambition? I don't buy it. They rushed him first. He was using words, they escalated. No sympathy.

@@Adanu191 I was very specific, and you are oversimplifying the encounter to benefit your position. They did not rush him. He insulted a little girl, and when she ran up to him to shove him, he violently shoved her to the rocky floor. As far as I’m concerned, she was not going to be able to hurt him, and he definitely hurt her. So he didn’t technically attack first, but he’s in the wrong. It’s very clear when you watch the show with more than the most basic understanding of the conflict. You can see it on Aemond’s face. His arrogance and cruelty is plain.

@@Adanu191 Also, I just gotta say, the way you are approaching this is a little odd. I wouldn’t normally describe insults and threats as “using words.” And I also don’t like that you used the term “lack of ambition” to describe the fact that the girl hadn’t jumped on her mother’s dragon the second she died. And you have “no sympathy” for the children involved in this fight? That’s kind of disturbing. I think they all deserve some empathy.

Yeah I had no issues with the lighting when I streamed it, I'm not sure why so many people are.

It’s not the TV. A lot of KZfaqrs have darker versions of this episode. I think it has to do with what service you use to Stream it. I use HBO Max on an Apple TV device and it looks normal. It’s very dark for others using other methods.

I think it has a lot to do with how dark the room is when watching the show. If you have any lights on it’s harder to see what’s on the screen. Blackout shades rock 👍🏽

It looked good on my monitor, but when I saw it on a TV it looked way darker.

Yeah I watched it on my computer & it was fine.

THANK YOU, I'm tired of everyone acting as if he was the bully when it was THREE ON ONE. How many years did they torment him? He defended himself, but because he said some mean words he was wrong? Screw that. Also, NO ONE IS OWED A DRAGON. They go out of their way to establish that. That spoiled girl saying "that was my dragon" DID NOT DESERVE THAT DRAGON. Who's Vhagar going to choose - a spoiled brat who sees a dragon as a birthright or a kid who takes the initiative, makes the effort, and makes an actual claim? Aemond did nothing wrong.

I disagree. You give her a chance to attempt to bond after she mourns her charred mommy. It was not nice and my daughter would have been in a timeout if she did that to her cousin.

@@jxchamb While it's true that maybe it wasn't the right moment, remember that dragons aren't things children or others get like gift or family heirloom if their parent/rider die, so, like any other Targaryen Aemond have the same right to claim Vhagar like any member of his family.

@@jxchamb Why? Vhagar is a freaking dragon not a piece of property. Literally nobody had any right to her and she can't be "stolen", Aemond did excatly what was expected of a Targaryen and royal and bonded a dragon while he had none, increasing his power and prestige and the pomp and circumstance be damned.

@@Doomfoolable But it's the proper thing to do. That's what I'm saying. I agree with everything you said but I stll think that it wasn't a nice thing to do.

@@Doomfoolable it’s an unspoken type of thing imo, just as a nod of respect. but no he’s a little bitch with no respect. as soon as he gets power he starts speaking to people like they’re trash and bragging

Vaemond was throwing a lot of shade for a eulogy.

@@AzraelPhrenzy Ya I think it was just to make a point of “enough we get it not the time” he thought was funny he was doing it at that moment I think more than laughing cause was funny.

I still think a lot of his giggling had to do with him being certain Targaryens blood is just a tad better. (Note: I do not agree. I am very much okay with the end of the Targaryen line. Except maybe the super diluted ones.)

You can't "steal" a dragon, it chooses its rider.

@@kylemma33 so that was the dragon sneaking up on HIM in the night. Got it. Lol obviously the dragon had to accept him but he went to the dragon and on funeral night with no grace period. Don’t get it twisted.

That psycho kid? Hell ya. Wasn’t enough.

What do you expect from Rhaenyra loving sycophants?

Respectfully, if you're gonna play morality police w/ a major IP like this, you're in big trouble. So far we've seen : -Multiple moments of incest -A man facilitate the murder of his own brother/dad -Public castration -Major adult characters engaging in both implied and explicit sexual activity w/ teens I could go on, talk also about multiple rape scenes in the OG GoT too, but we'd be here all day. Mabye, POSSIBLY, Adam and J don't condone child endangerment AND have an escapist logic towards this show and world we're watching. Just food for thought, don't shoot the messenger.

@@TheNoviceOAO who is morality policing? I said I liked it. XD

@@timsoel566 i apologise. also, im old bc i dont know what xd means, so assumed the worst lol

Was he of old Valyrian blood? No His life is meaningless ….😅

Hey maybe they knew he was a piece of shit. Or maybe he was. We can hope. Lol but ya prob just a guard.

No one here is innocent. I think that’s the point

Honestly , apart from Aemond (and even then it’s debatable at this point) it’s the parents completely messing them up Aegon really doesn’t care - he just wants to drink and love his way through life Seriously if they had just left them alone they’d probably all get along so well 😂

Same here, Rhaenyra and Daemon's incest is getting on my nerves. And they killed an innocent guard at that...

& the dragons are actually the least I'm concerned about TBH

It's still crazy to me that they didn't punish Rhaneyra's bastard son for gouging out Prince Aemond's eye who is even ahead of Rhaneyra in succession for being a MAN, but you know Viserys has a preference for his eldest daughter and of course he was more worried about who spread an "open secret" than to protect his own son, his own seed... of course Rhaneyra is the darling as long as Viserys is alive!

@Heinrich_himmler1939 Not even Rhaneyra herself likes a woman to rule, I can't believe Rhaneyra insists that her bastards have Velaryon blood and she's stealing Baela's right to be head of the Velaryon house because she decided so… Baela doesn't she has to be “queen consort, nor second daughter.” Baela and Rhaena are Velaryon purebloods, not Rhaneyra's bastards. Rhaneyra just wants the patriarchy to make an exception for her because she is pampered and Viserys made her believe that she is special, when in reality she is a person who doesn't even know how to wipe her butt. Targaryen offspring did not depend on Rhaneyra, who cares about this woman? At that point there were already too many descendants and Alicent married her two children Haelena and Aegon and thus returned to purify the blood anyway, Alicent if she has fulfilled her duties Rhaneyra NO. It seems absurd to me that a person who lies, who is an adulteress, who does not fulfill his duties as an heiress, who has bastards, etc., is the one destined and the correct one to govern, if he could not even have legitimate children, how was he going to manage the West? ? It is a joke. In the end, Sunfire's meeting with Rhaneyra is very satisfying, so she pays for all her cruelty, and neither side wins because the Targaryens are dethroned and almost extinct. a pity

@@myopinionnow123 Your second comment actually reads like the ramblings of someone who has long lost any sanity lmao. You're about as sane as Alicent after the war.

@@rylace Jaja yes yes, this shit is backwards, what happens is that Rhaneyra is very sane LIKE YOU right? 🤣you know she doesn't abuse her father over and over again, she has legitimate children, she doesn't tell lies, she developed an incredible political mind!!!! It is always vile accusations that haunt Rhaneyra... you are right Alicent has lost her sanity because she has been fulfilling her duties and has had legitimate children… you are right we have lost own sanity for supporting what is right 🤣🤣🤣 with your comment you reflect that in real life you are probably a taker of people✌🏽 peace!

Why is cole alive after murdering a knight in a wedding?

Yeah, and they only had to kill one random guy and burn his face in a fire to do it 👏👏 😂

Yeah as a book reader I was shocked - yet happy!

I absolutely love that they did this for him and Qarl.

@@MT-UK I didn't particularly like the change. So far, the show has painted Rhaenrya as the hero and Alicent as the villain. I prefer more nuance on both sides. But given what's coming, it will be interesting to see how long people root for Rhaenrya.

@@havok6280 that’s actually something I think I enjoy. As opposed to just having two morally questionable characters defining each side of the conflict, if you have Rhaenyra as a more likable character who progressively devolves into doing more and more morally reprehensible things over the course of the conflict, it makes the show far more dynamic. At least in my opinion. Actually slowly have your heroic character become just another villain, unlike… another show in this universe. 😂

you enjoy not being able to see the details in pivotal scenes? To each their own i suppose.

@@Doomfoolable The show was perfectly watchable when I watched it. Y'all have bad lighting, bad screens/streaming, or bad eyes. This is not the Long Night.

@@rylace Glad you popped in 10 months later to drop this absolute gem of a response.

DirftMark is an island just off the coast. It is considered part of Westeros.

Driftmark is in Westeros, by your logic Dragonstone is also not in Westeros even though literally every respectable Maester would tell you it is the easternmost Westerosi domain

@@kharilane1340 IT'S NOT KINGS LANDING! IT'S ACROSS FROM DRAGON STONE!

@@royalband6839 I know and Dragonstone is also considered part of Westeros just like the island of the West and East Coast are still considered part of the USA or the Isle of Man is part of Great Britain. You need to brush up on the rules of geography and topography

@@kharilane1340 FOR A FICTIONAL LANDSCAPE! 😄! QUESTION! WHAT IS WEST OF WESTEROS? DRIFTMARK IS NOT KINGS LANDING!

Keep grinding, eventually they have to 😂

She’s unhinged because Alicent believes she is holier than thou and has room to talk and judge all. Rhanyera at least knows who she is. As does Daemon.

She's unhinged because she demanded the eye from a CHILD. Yes, her marriage to Viserys is awful, but Rhaenyra's is no picnic either. They should have been able to empathize with each others situations. Rhaenyra has tried to extend an olive branch, and it gets swatted away. She revels in her hatred of the entire family.

“When you play the game of thrones , you win or you die , there is no middle ground” It comes down to survival here - I don’t think anyone is ‘good’ in the classical sense but there are certainly better morals or reasons behind actions for a greater good - this is westeros- If you really want the MAIN villain its Otto Hightower Alicent was hardly FORCED to marry the King, if anything she was pressured by her Father to get close to him.. she actively pursued him after his wife died, he chose her out of affection. She flirted with him from their first interaction after his wife had passed. As for “hurt Rhanaeryas feelings” I mean shit, your best friend, behind your back, marries your Dad whilst your mother has barely been dead what? A year? Max? Alicent I feel was definitely manipulated and an initial victim but by her father - from that point onwards she causes so much shit. Rhanaerya never sought the throne, Aegon clearly dgaf and would rather drink & 🤬 his way through life… but Alicent is so hell bent and paranoid (again Ottos doing) that she’s pulling him and his brother into this conspiracy that Rhanaerya will kill him if he doesn’t challenge her… I mean Rhanaerya offered her an olive branch to marry Jace off to Haelena - making them King and Queen one day and she responded by pointing out the tit leak (*sorry that’s crass I’m British 🤷🏻‍♂️) I really don’t think that anyone legit thinks that the Blacks are GOOD but they’re certainly better Poor people? Sorry but yeah no they really don’t matter … this is westeros. Deal with it… name me ONE character we have seen in this franchise who is absolutely clean … there is none What are you expecting ? Like really? , a Batman style Daemon who won’t kill? There will be collateral damage “If you think this has a happy ending, you haven’t been paying attention”

@@tiffanyphillips8427 Alicent is holier than thou. Rhyneara just signed off on murdering an innocent human being.

@@agentsculder2451 no. Alicent tried to extend an olive branch and got swatted away and lied to. She even stood up for Rhyneara which directly resulted in her father being fired as hand in which it turned out that Rhyneara was lying. And she continued to lie for ten years after that. When Alicent found out Layrs murdered his family she was appalled and didn't want it. Rhyneara signed off on murdering an innocent poor person to take Leanors place. It's crazy to me that you're defending the murder of innocent people for no justifiable reason except that you like a the character who murdered the innocent person. It's unbelievable.

Seasmoke's rider isn't dead. So another rider cannot claim him... Also worth noting, Team Black has several young inexperienced dragons. Team Green just got the most battle hardened dragon in the realm.

@@havok6280 I wouldn't say they only have young inexperienced dragons, Caraxes is experienced in battle, granted not dragon x dragon battle but it still counts for something

Her name is Baela. Her sister is Rhaena.

@@havok6280 can he give it up? Cause he's off in Essos now.

I like to think of Larys Strong as this shows MIDDLEfinger

@@MT-UK larys is more of an evil tyrion than littlefinger

@@alaa6532 tbh my comment was more of a (clearly poor) attempt at humour 😅considering he is giving the middle finger to everyone behind their backs it seems and everytime I see him on screen , LIKE Baelish, I feel like 🖕🏼😂 hence the play on the name