This! Luke was sent as a messenger. Same as Otto coming to dragon stone to deliver terms to Rhaenyra in that same episode. He was allowed to leave with his life, Luke wasn’t. The entire point is that the greens broke terms first and killing a messenger who is supposed to have immunity and pass unharmed, something that is very bad in Westeros. That’s why the Black’s held the moral high ground in the initial aftermath of Luke’s death. Because Aemond had become a kinslayer and he slew his own nephew while he was acting as a messenger who was not supposed to be harmed in that role. But Daemon then lost them that high ground by also killing family. But Aemond jumpstarted the war.

@@laileleneirose7966 they didn't break any terms because he wasn't sent as a messenger to the greens, aemond just happened to be there, so it's completely different from Otto going to Dragon stone

@@ayoubrachidi3263aemond was there to offer terms like lucerys

@@laileleneirose7966 I agree with you and the OP, but moral high ground aside, they should've considered the reality of things. the Journey to Storm's End is crossing enemy's territory, King's landing/the Crownland is right by it. Didn't they think the Greens would've secured a foothold there?. They should've sent Rhaenys to storm's end. Her being far more experienced than Luke in both flying a dragon and diplomatic mission.

She could've sent Rhaenys who was was actually related to him and had Luke patrol, sent Daemon or have gone herself.

Is that canon?

​@@csegovia8846we'll hear about it next episode probably, these writers aren't D&D to just leave out logical inconsistencies unexplained

@@nikolascsgo no this showrunner alan taylor is actually a lot worse than d&d, they shouldnt have lost the showrunner from season 1

@@lagsalot9357 ryan condall is the lead writer and executive producer, grrm is most notably still there and there's an entire team of people besides ryan condall doing the work, so not just two dumbfucks

@@lagsalot9357 hey oversmart🤡 Alan taylor is the director. Ryan condal is still the Chief writer and the showrunner continuing from season 1.

Lol right if she wasn't crazy before those 2 things will do it

Actually that was Rhaenyra’s old room they were in. Alicent and Criston are something else with themselves.

@@gracekincade8775 Its been almost a decade since Rheanyra occupied that room. Is it supposed to just stay vacant? you act like they went there just to fuck on her bed and think of her

I keep forgetting Alicent is her mother because they look the same age/age group💀they should have casted an older actress to play adult Alicent, the fact that she’s only 2 years older than the actor who plays Aegon and 3 years older than Ewan Mitchell (Aemond) like….

@@Winskl9010you seem to forget alicent being young looking isn’t crazy because of how young women had children in this time.

This!

Queen of nothing

@@korruptedln2486aegon the king of r@pists

@@elizabethl3092 Rhaenyra, whore of dragonstone.

Didn’t she have a whole conversation with Aegon at the beginning of the episode? He was looking for the son.

That's cause they are Northerners 😂

He has Ned's hair style.

​@@haymaker710 Ngl a Stark lord without a beard is weird too

Cregan not so dumb and was quick to act, unlike them other Starks. You will see. One of the few Starks/Northerners to do just OK down South

@@juve96 Cregan was smart for waiting it out.

I actually was wondering about that cuz they didn’t show us what he said after they asked “what if we can’t find aemond?”

Thanks for clarifying

@@RTTV2011There’s no way to really know. Daemon haters are on every stream today

You can’t prove that. Nice try though

@@vanessalore9942 Well, at least in the books Daemon orders the death of the child ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

His whole thing is being wrong, you get used to it.

You expect Rob to be consistent?

@@ChromaticEagle at times he makes the reaction unwatchable

who tf is rob😂

Oh the annoying one that yells

Tell that to the messenger beat to an inch of his life by Daemon in episode 3 xd

​ive been saying since episode 1 he was a problem..dont get it twisted im team black but daemon is NOT a good person

​He's a complex character, he is a bad person, but everything he does isn't out of impulse, it's to protect the Targaryen bloodline from being watered down and perceived as weak, cause as u see in got,and confirmed strongly by vyserys, the best people to rule the seven kingdoms are Targaryens@@imarock8763

She stupid, stop defending her😒 this is war

Why roll your eyes? How would they know that law?

nice assist from vhagar

I hate Aemond. all that glazing was annoying

@@DAFR2849 fr like there are other characters this isn’t all about him 🙄

@@DAFR2849 you are child letting that get to you.

Plus it was a near journey and no war had officially started , his just upset of rhaenyra for no reason and I hope he learns nothing good comes from the green

ANDDD messengers are supposed to be unharmed by law. and luke was a messenger to the baratheon house. and yet…

​@@velvaka he just likes to be the opposite voice in everything, and even he himself has no excuse nor good things to say about greens and that was clear at the end of this video when he started talking (at 27:07 ) he couldn't even make a good sentence about greens and just said some random shit😂😂😂

there's no way that would've ever been put on TV, for good or ill

​@@nikolascsgo What part would never be put on TV?

@@leonrobinson2475 anything more detailed than what we already got visual decapitation and rape of children in a single scene is just too much for TV

Why not? ​@@nikolascsgo

@@Aaron_Guest 1. story reasons - fire and blood (the book) is basically one big story told from memory by characters known to exaggerate events, not to mention it's been going from mouth to mouth for so long that it's very likely reached the point where various events depicted in it are far from the truth and I think the original blood and cheese is clearly exaggerated 2. you can't just put rape and murder of almost infant babies on TV with full visuals and expect the show to air normally

Yes. I believe the swords name is ICE

@@daniellerhymes2842 that’s crazy, one really needs to look for everything in this show love it!!!

Daeron is the same age as Jacaerys. Not 1 year younger but 4 years younger.

And he's a weapon

Was he referenced in the season one intro? I really hope they don’t omit him. Starting to think that he won’t show up this season

@@SpaceViking2000 George Martin confirmed he will appear, tho it will probably be a small appearance.

@@SpaceViking2000He was indeed referenced in the intro

Nah, that doesn't fit his character. Book and show are different

EXACTLY.

Yea😂

They will chill out. This episode wasn't about them

@@immortal5626 that’s not how writing characters or episodes work……

@monie3558 yeah it is. They had nothing to do with this episode. They didnt need to speak. Grow up

Hopefully they will this season

Well Criston was in Alicent, a couple guards with the King in th Throne Room, and Larys “fired” a bunch of the Red Keep staff. Also at least 2 of the Kingsguard abandoned the Hightowers (the Commander and the twin)

@@SILK97 which is crazy bc you would’ve thought with a literal war going on, that the castle would be secured like Fort Knox so this is on them since they clearly didn’t take this seriously

​@@janycegonzalez You see it in Aegon and Haelena conversation when she said she's afraid. They focused to much on Dragon. Yeah, Vhagar ain't protecting you inside the castle.

@@irfanadhin5918 I wish they would take her more seriously as we can see in the show that when she speaks in these riddles or say something with a ominous tone, it’s as of warning that something sinister is approaching but because she’s viewed as a “weirdo”, they just brush her off

it would still happen regardless... because you know mr-simps-alot would be busy somewhere else lol..and this scene is very different in the books and I feel like it was mainly the book readers who had an issue with that..weirdos i swear

Why is it called blood & cheese? I’ve heard this term multiple times now

Nope, it was terrible writing.

​@@kayleedesroches6318Those are the names of the two killers.

I read the books and enjoyed this episode. Y'all hardcore book readers can't gatekeep everyone from enjoying the show.

@@ValyrianSteel00 Here goes a clown

She's one of the very few people on either side that's truly a good person. I'm team Black but Heleana didn't deserve that kind of pain.

​@@KelliFranklinoh but Raynera deserved having her son killed? What makes this death different from the other?

@@empressquamina6847 You misunderstood me. I'm team Black all the way. Luke didn't deserve to die at all. I hate that a little child died but my philosophy is like Daemon's: a son for a son. I just hate it for Heleana. She's the only good green imo. Jaeharys dying was only fair in war.

@@KelliFranklin Paying assassins to sneak into the castle and assasinate a child isnt war.

Aegon also fathered bastard children and had them in kiddie fight club.

The dog is the one your worried about when there is incest and rape and pedo behaviour going on through the whole show are you dum 😂😂😂

Yup! Currently watching it on me and Tay’s channel!

Thanks! The episode was sooo good!

The amount of people who use the “accident” argument to try and absolve him of any wrongdoing is annoying. It’s clear his intentions wasn’t to kill but his recklessness got a person killed. It’s like a teenager driving drunk or racing. What gets you arrested is the reckless act and endangerment to others.

Ayyy glad someone caught this! Thanks!! 🙏🏼

Thank u for this comment it baffles me for the overall hate for alicent n criston when Rhaenyra n daemon r worse then them.

I agree about your pov regarding Alicent but I think Sir Criston is doing it, like his interest on her and the boys are not genuine, he's doing it to get back at Rhaenyra... A silly fool who loved her and never got over the fact that she played him. She was wrong but I believe the friendship between both of them was genuine. He could have left it at that, but his love for Rhaenyra was too deep that he still hasn't let go and he would do anything to make her feel the hurt he felt when she played him. I wouldn't be surprised if at some point in the future they met again and she would be clever enough to led him into a trap because truly, he loves her and that would also be another reason for Alicent to hate on Rhaenyra 😂😂 I can see it already...

@@KenasDaniellethe thing is though I don’t see how Criston still loves Rt I find he is still resentful of her. He has spent most of his life defending alicent, watching her kids, n training Aemond. So to me it makes more sense for him to feel for Alicent n her kids more than his old flame Rhaenyra

But wasn't that Rhaenyra's plan all along ? perform her duty and then have fun ? Laenor was gay and that's why they couldn't produce heirs. Y'all act as if she didn't try lol and yes she was impulsive ... because she was a teen and her dad was the most powerful man in the realm... she could afford to do whatever the hell she wanted to do as long as she didn't expose her self and she learned that over the years. We don't like Alicent because she was jealous of Rhaenyra's position. Y'all saying that rhaenyra was a spoiled kid but who wouldn't enjoy being the daughter of a powerful ruler ? tf ? Alicent would've had fun as well if she was a TARGARYEN PRINCESS but she wasn't. She's a Westerosi who grew up with westerosi values. We don't like Alicent because she had a one sided beef with Rhaenyra because Rhaenyra actually had a dad that cared about her and Alicent didn't. Alicent was just a jealous entitled little brat that was mad that she had to bed a rotten human being because her daddy forced her to. She directed all her anger and frustration on Rhaenyra because she wanted what rhaenyra had. Pleasure, happiness, freedom. That's why now that Viserys is gone she's doing it in Rhaenyra's old room with Rhaenyra's old bf. She wants what Rhaenyra has/had. That's why she's convincing herself that viserys wanted Aegon on the Throne; so she can take that from rhaenyra too. Honestly alicent is a Narc, and other narcs identify with her hence we have team green. Y'all think like babies lol "Rheanyra has it, I should have it too 😤" this is pathetic. What did rhaenyra have to do with alicent marrying Viserys ? " Alicent and Cole have formed a real relationship, hell Sir Criston is shown more in a fatherly light towards Aegon and Aemond as well compared to Viserys when he was still around. " they bonded over hating Rhaenyra. Alicent was the queen and she wasn't vulnerable hence why they were bullying the hell out Rhaenyra in episode 6 of season one. 10 year later and Cole still hate Rhaenyra. for what ? that girls doesn't care for him and he cares about her still. He still loves her, he doesn't like Alicent or else he would've offert to run away and stop doing it with her. Final thought ; Rhaenyra's sons might be bastards but they have more honor and dignity than Alicent psychotic kids could ever have.

@TheKimzer Rheanyra never tried, nor did she handle any of her responsibilities to the degree of an Alicent, Aemond, Otto, or even Daemon. Hell Aegon is showing better natrual leadership tendencies than Rheanyra by actually wanting to help a peasant. He didn't think about tryna give dude his sheep back, meanwhile Rheanyra upon sneaking out the Keep with Daemon, said she don't give a damn about what the small folk say or think because they are not important. The problem with Rheanyra is that she is a spoiled princess who believes she is supposed to be Queen while scoffing at the responsibilities that come with it. She could have prevented this war multiple times, especially if she just came clean about her kids and legitimized them. They would have been safe and set for life while still enjoying the perks of being royalty. The reason Rheanyra did not do this is because it would have killed any strength her weakened claim had left. She cares more about indulging herself rather than keeping people around her, as well as her own family safe. This is what Alicent saw in her after finding out what happened with Criston, who was about to kill himself after beings seduced into risking his life for a rebound fling, when he thought his connection with the princess was genuine. Rheanyra is absolutely no good whatsoever for the realm if she were in power. She just doesn't have the tact, deamonor, or mind of a quality ruler.

He’ll be back for the next one!

And side note that it’s pretty much Criston & Alicent’s fault the heir to the throne died. Had they not been bumping literal ugly’s then Criston would’ve been on duty, as he should’ve been. I think the driving force behind a lot of his aggressive nature and determination this season will be to make up for the fact the blood of the son of the King is quite literally on his hands. And I think Alicent will feel such guilt that she’ll turn mad with vengeance to attempt to make it up to Helaena & Aegon, knowing she never can. I’m excited to see though if they’ll catch Blood or Cheese as they do in the book. Although I felt the actual scene was underwhelming because in the books Helaena pleads and cries and begs for the lives of her children. She also had three children in the book not two twins. So I wonder if she’ll have another child in this season OR if she could already be pregnant OR if they’ll just omit Meagor altogether

Last thing - I also think Alicent will grow to resent Aemond EVEN MORE now because it’s his fault Rhaenyra & Daemon wanted revenge in the first place. Had Aemond not killed Luke they wouldn’t have sent Blood & Cheese:

​@@jmoney9954 one thing i like about aemond is he's a hypocrite unlike his mother she plot but wants peace now fuck cole and was crying about duty like he said her grace speak with two tongues.

How dare they have different opinions about characters...Daemon fans are so cringe

It's the shitty arc they've given her TV show character of being emotionally distanced from everyone. I understand they've made her autistic on purpose but I know autistic people who love their siblings and love their children. In the book Helaena's children are very dear to her, the only real happiness she had - which is what drove her mad in the end

How dare they have different opinions😮

Yea they starting of strong with the team Rheanyra propaganda. While it was still a grizzly and foul plan it gives Daemon a slight out by not making one of the heirs a direct target.

Aemond was also white washed

In the book Aemond kills Lucerys in cold blood. Alicent let Viserys body rot for a few days before announcing his death. Do you call that whitewashing team green ?

@@cinevore358The Daemon haters and Green supporters are out in force today.

@@vanessalore9942 This fandom is extremely annoying.