House Stark: The Hidden Truth About Their Origin? - A Song of Ice and Fire (Theory)

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5 жыл бұрын

Welcome back for another A Song of Ice and Fire Theory Video. Today I want to talk about the origins of House Stark and the Others, and why I think they are intertwined. According to Old Nan, the Night's King, who was the 13th Lord Commander of the Night's Watch, was a Stark of Winterfell. We have also heard about some of the Kings of Winter having eyes of ice. I am wondering if all of the current Starks are actually descendants of the Others in some way. We have been told that Winterfell was built directly after the Long Night ended, but can we trust the timeline? I also think the Night's King could be down in the lowest levels of the Crypts of Winterfell. Something is hiding down there, and it most likely has something to do with the Others. Let me know what you think. Thanks for watching the video!
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@Giarcnek 5 жыл бұрын

There always needs to be a Stark at Winterfell...Sh*t hit the fan when the last Stark left. Magic? Hell yes.

@Giarcnek 5 жыл бұрын

I typed the above before I finished the video...Yes! a channel that doesn't skimp on the details.

@HardToPlay 3 жыл бұрын

I still can’t believe this whole world came from the imagination of one man.

@blackwidow4564 3 жыл бұрын

Only george Lucas can come close with this type of imagination

@lemon9843 2 жыл бұрын

@@blackwidow4564 Tolkien

@blackwidow4564 2 жыл бұрын

@@lemon9843 your right

@DjangoWarheart 2 жыл бұрын

And our whole world flocked to it.

@mr.wiggles8734 2 жыл бұрын

Umm frank herbert

@darrenmallett465 5 жыл бұрын

As someone who studied literature as a degree, I have such respect for the fact you can create these theories from reading the novels. Mad respect man. Keep it up.

@12JoHnYb34 5 жыл бұрын

"There must always be a Stark in Winterfell" - Taking into account in which contexts was "winter fell" used in stories, I think over time they started to interpret it wrong as if a Stark needs to always be physically in the castle. I think it means that when the winter falls, the long night comes, there must be a Stark in the battle against the others. It actually backs up your video and what you are saying but with this thought having in mind it just makes it more valid.

@SelphieTheNutter Жыл бұрын

I think its refers to both, there must always be a stark in winterfell to keep watch for the coming winter. Because that stark will have to lead the defence for the dawn

@jonnywalker9383 Жыл бұрын

Imagine if John Snow became the night king?

@MannyG32968 5 жыл бұрын

I love Old Nan.. she's like the grandma who knows what's good for you.. in this case the Stark's better pay attention!

@TalkingThrones 5 жыл бұрын

Lmao so true.

@phenominalmessi1799 5 жыл бұрын

Whos here after episode 3?

@mattyy101 5 жыл бұрын

Because the description

@MartinsGarage97 5 жыл бұрын

Me 🙋‍♀️. He’s videos are so amazing.

@navstaa8397 5 жыл бұрын

If I didn’t have these GoT videos to watch, I’d be going mad waiting for next season. So thanks for keeping me sane.

@TalkingThrones 5 жыл бұрын

Lmao same here. I need my fix also.

@gogozeppeli9267 5 жыл бұрын

Navstaa 321 thats kinda sad .....

@gogozeppeli9267 5 жыл бұрын

RandomTipsyLemon the books are never gonna end...whats the point...

@rodoh4995 5 жыл бұрын

IKR

@keyamichelle710 5 жыл бұрын

Navstaa 321 lol OMG ME TOO I think I need therapy I have all the books I jus keep jumping back n forth from show to books goin cray 😆 I have the banners Jewlery costumes when it’s finally over ile have a long cry GREAT VID LOTS OF INFO 💯

@Zach-sx8cm 5 жыл бұрын

Gosh I love these speculation videos of yours that all use the creepy white walker theme..... miss these days now that the wars over

@factbeaglesarebest 3 жыл бұрын

But this is discussing ASOIAF so it would be the Others, not white walkers.

@KoharuSarah 5 жыл бұрын

Oh fun-fact for you: "Winterfell" is actually a word in German, written exactly like that. I translates as "Winter Fur/Coat/Pelt" animals get in the cold months of the year. So for me as a German reader, I wouldn't read it like "Winter falls/fell" but like "Winter-Fur", which is fitting as well to me, also because of the Wolves etc. ^^

@rhi3rhi391 5 жыл бұрын

Taru Chi wow!! That’s so awesome!!

@matematicarka Жыл бұрын

fell also means a kind of membrane, doesn’t it?

@emilythequeen1 Жыл бұрын

It’s like being prepared for winter….

@herirg5500 5 жыл бұрын

The picture of the 13th lord comander with the background music gives me the chills. It's terrifying, really. Thanks for the videos.

@cryptogames299 5 жыл бұрын

"Oh my sweet summer child... what do you know." Perfect❤❤❤

@AshleyJones-vp1tb 5 жыл бұрын

Old Nan is a OG forreal !

@TalkingThrones 5 жыл бұрын

Fook Yea!

@thomasalston 5 жыл бұрын

OGON

@viviannixon6873 5 жыл бұрын

It's almost a year since this video was created and it's still accurate and relevant. You are a legend.

@haloringindex3124 3 жыл бұрын

Vivian Nixon still is, 2 years now

@williamwhitfield6225 3 жыл бұрын

@@haloringindex3124 Except they scrapped the long night prequel.

@mikkel-carloswulff2203 Жыл бұрын

4 years now, still valid. Writer must Be lazy as f

@shakeyguinevereblanacruell6246 5 жыл бұрын

I believe the reason there must always be a Stark in Winterfell is because of the Kings in the Crypt. Think about it, a spell especially a blood spell can only be as effective as it is cast if the blood line that casts it remains bound to the property. The binding of these Kings would have to be 3 fold. First of blood, then iron then earth. The first being the strongest way to keep them in check the second and third simply to bind. You do not bind a captive with a single or double cord rope or chain but a 3 fold rope or chain. The first being blood would link to the ways of the Old Gods, the second is the means by which they were captured and the third would be what is being protected.

@bloodyneptune 5 жыл бұрын

I dont know why I love the line "I tend to believe [Old Nan]" just like, that biotch knows her lore.

@shaydshani 5 жыл бұрын

With the description of the new pilot your theory seems even more possible. This really does seem to explain alot about the Starks. They're so used to their words and things being named what they are they for got their true history because it been so long or maybe so dark. I wish I could hear Old Nan finish her stories.

@TalkingThrones 5 жыл бұрын

I think we are going to find out some of the dark secrets about the Starks. They weren't the loving family we know from today..

@penemuelwatcher2378 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah. That's why they are so serious about "keeping their word". It's not just a matter of honor for them. It's a matter of survival.

@penemuelwatcher2378 5 жыл бұрын

@@TalkingThrones Even from the Stark stories in the books, we could all tell that the Starks have always had a cold stoic streak about them. Plus, they were known to have short tempers and low tolerance for decadence/degeneracy. They have always been known for cruel efficiency. And they live in the cold north. Extremophiles tend to shun non essentials... they work best with basic necessities... it's hard to develop a jolly disposition in that environment.

@seralexofarden5111 5 жыл бұрын

was hoping for a video this weekend, thank you TT. you make the time inbetween the next season much more bearable :D

@TalkingThrones 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Alex

@otilaangel1076 5 жыл бұрын

The quality of your theories, plus the research you do, make you stand out among all of the content creators with GOT channels. Your work is very much appreciated. Keep it up! 🙌🏽

@conniebiggers1359 5 жыл бұрын

Remember Hodor took an iron sword from the crypts before they left Winterfell. I wonder whose sword he took? Meera took Rickard's sword. Bran took Brandon's. It doesn't say whose sword it belonged too. Could this be important? Hodor might have released a bad spirit of the Starks.

@kevinmyers440 5 жыл бұрын

Connie Biggers interesting, I don't remember thinking about that at the time

@voldemort008 5 жыл бұрын

It was also mentioned that the oldest iron swords had long since rusted into just a red stain on the statues, which could explain why the Others have made a return after so long. Their spirits had been released when the iron swords were no longer there to contain them.

@Richard_Nickerson 5 жыл бұрын

If he got his sword from the same general area as the others got theirs, then it would probably be Bran's great-grandfather. Between location in the pitch black and the fact that the older swords were literally rusting away into nothing, it would have to be one of Bran's more recent relatives. Therefore, it wouldn't be one of these evil White Walker spirits, which I dismiss as ridiculous in the first place.

@madyjules06 5 жыл бұрын

wow thanks Connie!! 😊

@jackporridge 5 жыл бұрын

Hodor

@MsSaminaable 5 жыл бұрын

Your videos are simply the best, no other channel is like yours. Your videos challenges what we already think we know, you list possibilities that we would not think plausible, yet the way you explain it , it makes sense. Long after I've watched your videos I'm still thinking about the contents. Great work, your videos just go from strength to strength.

@conniesuper9892 5 жыл бұрын

I agree with everything about the Starks. Ned told Jon in the show " A Stark has manned the wall for thousands of years". Also,the iron swords on Old Kings laps AND iron banding on dark wood door to crypts.

@DavidGarcia-oi5nt 5 жыл бұрын

Ironwood as well, it's the opposite of Weirwood (white) Ironwood (black) Ironwood is seen when ned decapitated the run away.

@DavidGarcia-oi5nt 5 жыл бұрын

Connie Super the house of black and white in Bravos, the front door is half ironwood and half Weirwood

@Richard_Nickerson 5 жыл бұрын

Or, you know, that's just how things were built given the technology and resources... and laying weapons on the graves of the fallen was common practice...

@DavidGarcia-oi5nt 5 жыл бұрын

R Nickerson nah the Swords on the laps of the Kings Of Winter is significantly symbolic, as far as the iron banding on doors? That's normal.

@DavidGarcia-oi5nt 5 жыл бұрын

But Iron is very symbolic and one should try and pay attention when it's mentioned.

@johnpatz8395 5 жыл бұрын

I've wondered if the "vengeful spirits" were in fact not the buried Starks we see and hear of but something deeper in the crypts that the dead "Kings of Winter" were keeping contained, maybe the Night's King

@thesummrbaby 5 жыл бұрын

It may be the Queen....

@sunshineroth9605 5 жыл бұрын

50th! Ha! REALLY enjoyed this one! I agree 100% with your line of thinking regarding Starks. Thank you for laying all this info out in such an organized manner....I love Old Nan, and her storytelling, she's the only one who seemed to "remember".

@Kill-for-change 5 жыл бұрын

So Starks may descend from Others if that is true Jon Snow is related to almost everything First Men,Rhoynar,Valyrians,Andals, Children of the forest(maybe) and Others(maybe).Also always wonder what happen to the original sword called Ice

@TalkingThrones 5 жыл бұрын

I would love to know. It may be in the Crypts still.

@eds1942 5 жыл бұрын

The Crypts would be my guess. And Jon does have reoccurring dreams about needing to go down to the lowest ones, were that sword is likely kept.

@hotguymcgee9914 5 жыл бұрын

William Lewing ice was the valyrian steel sword that ned used to chop off that deserters head in the first episode. it also beheaded ned in kings landing. tywin melted it down to make a sword for joffrey at his marriage and jaime to later give it to brienne

@Kill-for-change 5 жыл бұрын

bootzy wootzy There was another sword called Ice the name of the sword is older then the Valyrian steel sword. The original Ice disappeared probably during the Age of Heroes.

@eds1942 5 жыл бұрын

bootzy wootzy The Valyrian steel sword Ice was only about 400-500 years old. It was a replacement for the original Ice, which dated back to the Age of Heroes. That Ice was likely hidden in the Crypts during the Conquest to avoid the possibility of it being confiscated for the Iron Throne, incase the Starks fell to the Aegon’s forces. Of course, Torrhen ultimately decided against fighting Aegon.

@Hobodeluxe960 5 жыл бұрын

okay this is my fav of your videos. well researched and thought out. good job.

@TalkingThrones 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you my friend.

@isishess2771 5 жыл бұрын

here's my theory: The White Walkers/Others are actually all Starks that were loyal to the 13th Lord Commander and the ones in Winterfell are the descents of ones that refused to side with him. Everything with the White Walkers is either a big Stark family feud from ancient times or the 13th Lord commander has been imprisoned in Winterfell all this time and the white walkers are coming to free him.

@Paolur 3 жыл бұрын

This gives the name of the "Others" a new meaning entirely: the Starks and the Other Starks

@Tmathh 2 жыл бұрын

nah their tree ice golems set on revenge

@loganpruitt7344 Жыл бұрын

I like this, helps wrap up why Arya killed the night king instead of Jon, one of the last true blood starks killing another ancient stark

@FayeFaye- Жыл бұрын

@@Paolur So not the "Others" but the "Other S" :P

@rhandalopez4776 5 жыл бұрын

LOVE this video!!! You are awesome! Interesting facts about Ice Eyes and I have always been intrigued about the dreams and the dire wolves and the Starks history. They are definitely connected to the Night King.

@TalkingThrones 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Rhanda!

@nikitaylor9336 5 жыл бұрын

Rhanda Lopez i believe bran is the night King.

@Marto.Sparto 5 жыл бұрын

Dude i get so exited when I see you’ve uploaded, you’re by far the most consistent content creator I watch in terms of quality!

@theresacassar3595 5 жыл бұрын

This is one of my favourite videos from you, makes so much sense especially with the impending prequel

@TalkingThrones 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much

@theresacassar3595 5 жыл бұрын

Also do you think it’s a possibility that the description of the Night’s Queen sounds like Daenerys - skin as white as the moon - Khal Drogo’s moon of my life - maybe the Night’s King is coming for another queen?

@Vanous1999 5 жыл бұрын

Theresa Cassar can't work. Targaryens was one of the common Valyrian famillies. And they left Valyria 700 years ago or something around that.

@jasonmanning6317 5 жыл бұрын

I’m starting to get the feeling that we may not learn all of this by the end of season 8 but this makes total sense. The Stark’s very clearly have some deep connection to winter as they often say, “winter is coming,” whenever they attack someone as if the Stark’s are the personification of winter. Then you have the Others which are very clearly the true personification of winter. As when they come, the worst of winter also actually comes. The Stark’s are often a metaphor for the White Walkers which are themselves a metaphor for winter. And I think there is a deeper reason for this than we realize. Perhaps we will learn much of this on Sunday!

@gracejayne88 5 жыл бұрын

That's right! I remembered now when Arya killed Walder Frey and other men of House Frey, she said to one of the girls to tell everybody , "Winter came for House Frey"

@jillymo527 5 жыл бұрын

Hi! Going through some of your older videos that I missed due to "life" taking over. This is just as interesting now as it was then. Thank you for making this!

@alexmosoiu9225 5 жыл бұрын

This is one of your best videos ever!!! Really great!!! How you managed to put all those details together, incredible!!! Good job man!!!

@Sighhhh 5 жыл бұрын

Another entertaining video, I always look forward to your posts.

@TalkingThrones 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Mark.

@rxgaribay 2 жыл бұрын

Wouldn’t it be great if when they killed Ned Stark, that is when the Night King was born? Maybe all Starks had to be buried down in the crypts of Winterfell with an iron sword laying on their bodies to prevent them from turning into white walkers.

@Egilhelmson Жыл бұрын

Ned Stark killed the Night Watch deserter who saw the Walker well South of the Wall, in the Prelude. Well before his death.

@lizamsilva 5 жыл бұрын

No other channel comes close to yours!!! I'm obsessed!!! Amazing job!

@Mohalshabz 5 жыл бұрын

Another one! great video, you helping us to get through the long night :)

@Iwillhurtyoureallybad 5 жыл бұрын

You deserve a million subscribers

@TalkingThrones 5 жыл бұрын

You're too kind. Thank you!

@voobster 5 жыл бұрын

TT is a hard working standup guy, props full time work + making videos !

@diplayball 5 жыл бұрын

Grim Seawolf hell yeah he does

@zefuk2628 5 жыл бұрын

If he ever surpasses 1 million this will quickly become an insult

@mickeybitsko9856 5 жыл бұрын

So, you're just like Joffrey, but without the moral code?

@Riverfox2012 5 жыл бұрын

Very good theory video! Thanks. :) A note about Jon and the NK. You mentioned how the NK wants Bran, and how he can't take his eyes off Jon whenever they've seen each other. But Jon, as we know, is Ice & Fire. What would the NK want with a Targaryen/Stark son? We know the NK is prescient somehow (that journey north to get a wight was a clear setup, perhaps the NK sent a vision to the Hound) and the NK was able to kill and turn a dragon into a WW (not a wight) and that magic combination was enough to bring down the wall. Would Jon have any special abilities if he'd been turned into WW after the battle up north? He can survive icy water, and it could be due to his combo Targaryen/Stark blood. Maybe that's why the NK has never tried to capture and turn him. He had plenty of opportunities and his WW didn't stab Jon when he had the chance.

@njgman 5 жыл бұрын

You're videos are stellar, Dan. Thanks for helping to make the waiting time between seasons so much easier and for make us appreciate Martin's story even more.

@HiteshMufc 5 жыл бұрын

If the night king can summon the dead, I’m eager to see what happens if he reachesWinterfell. Will he be able to summon the dead from the Winterfell crypts? All the kings of winter, along with Eddard and Lyanna? There’s something creepy about House Stark.

@velimasuku8808 Жыл бұрын

Turns out he did

@joejohnson6210 Жыл бұрын

Well, it has taken him 10 years to write one book. So, still impressive? Oh yeah. Right there with Tolkien. Maybe in some ways better. But he’s taking 10 fuckin years to write one book!!! Hurry up George. God damnit

@SelphieTheNutter Жыл бұрын

@@joejohnson6210 he's been too busy getting drunk on the tv shows success

@ravengreen-fs3wf Жыл бұрын

Their is no knight king int the books who control the others

@Mia-lj7wq 5 жыл бұрын

It sure is an interesting thought that the name Winterfell actually doesn't refer to where winter was defeated (as most teories goes), but instead where it started.

@himanshu_dynamic 5 жыл бұрын

Really like your videos man !! Waiting for the prequel now !! 🤘🤘

@TalkingThrones 5 жыл бұрын

Himanshu Bansal Thank you!

@sbard622 5 жыл бұрын

fascinating stuff your insight into this literary piece is amazing, always entertaining! thanks!

@VivekCNair-jy4ct 5 жыл бұрын

Starks must have something that the Night king wants. It belonged to him before . Could it be that Night king is one of the children of Night's king and Queen born at the Night fort and was given to the WW's before his father/mother was killed??? And their corpse/corpses is/are hidden beneath the crypts of winterfell which he wants back for him to reanimate.

@jameswhite3415 5 жыл бұрын

+Vivek C Nair Winterfell falls and that the nights king and his army just leave

@factbeaglesarebest 3 жыл бұрын

There is NO NIGHT KING...

@gardengirlnc 5 жыл бұрын

You have been killing it with your videos lately! I am excited to see someone else pointing out what Nan told us about Iron. I think it's important too. About the eyes as blue as ice, don't you think it's interesting that part of the Westerosi burial practice is to put stones painted with blue eyes on top of the eyes of the deceased? I think this could be important too. Maybe it's a long forgotten symbolic way of preventing the deceased from turning into a WW? Perhaps part of an old spell?

@cfrandre8319 5 жыл бұрын

gardengirlnc Some of the ancestors of Celts moved East toward China when other Celts went West thousands of years ago. Those Celts made their way around the great Gobi Desert, and a few natural mummies have been found where they had settlements. They put turquoise stones on the eyes...

@gardengirlnc 5 жыл бұрын

That is so interesting. Thanks for sharing!

@acgonzales7 5 жыл бұрын

from what I've read, the eye stones give the dead a new set of eyes and reminds ppl they should not fear death, since they believe it is not the end of existence. Also read that it's suppose to allow them to see what lies beyond in the afterlife.

@gardengirlnc 5 жыл бұрын

Oh wow, I didn't know that. It makes sense symbolically. Very interesting tid bit.

@lanalayton7576 5 жыл бұрын

Wow yes the blue eye stones!

@tonshmar 5 жыл бұрын

Wow! One of your best breakdowns. I see you, TThrones, you’re doing the damn-thing. 🔥 You seem to be getting better and better’er. (Yep, BETTER’ER) Great job. 👍 I’ve read you being compared to other KZfaqr’s which drives home my point. There is no need to “Dis” another KZfaqr as The Universe has enough room for EVERYONE. No need for competition. Your style of delivery is obviously different from others, but guess what, it works, because you ARE different. I have to be honest, It took me a second to get use to you (Subscribe) because I was so use to a different KZfaqr/s and how they choose to deliver their stories. Case and point, I’m glad I did give you a chance or I’d be missing out on some really good commentary. Keep up the good work. It takes a lot of time and research to do what you and you ARE appreciated. Thank you. 🙏

@TalkingThrones 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!!

@sstsaldana24 4 жыл бұрын

Good video brother! You just got a new suscriber. Keep up the good work vato!

@jaimiehamman9747 5 жыл бұрын

“You know nothing Jon Snow”...do the Wildlings still remember? Great video! I have been on a break from ASOIAF, lol. After this I am ready! 6th re-read and so many theories to add notes to. 😁

@duchessantoinette5100 5 жыл бұрын

This is my favourite theory video so far. It’s full of the facts of the narrative and GRRM level intriguing. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

@TalkingThrones 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much

@daz0705 5 жыл бұрын

There must be something significant with the name Winterfell, probably staring us right in the face and so obvious that were overlooking it, there is an old word " fell " when used after the name of a place that comes from the Norse word " fjall " which roughly means an area of high ground like a moor covered hill. which describes Winterfell's location perfectly, and those kind of location's historically were used as defensive positions

@louiszanetti40 5 жыл бұрын

I Absolutely Loved this Theory and Everything you do. Thank You for keeping the Citadel alive!

@Singh_Kunal513 5 жыл бұрын

Was waitin for this!!!! Interesting theory!!

@BonanzaRoad 5 жыл бұрын

This is all very compelling...with many clues and fascinating details that all intersect.

@TalkingThrones 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Jeff!

@absurdprince 5 жыл бұрын

Can we take a brief moment to acknowledge that another Stark just wiped a whole army of baddies out and saved the day

@RebeccaLee2424 5 жыл бұрын

This is so good! You’re one of the only channels that I feel has it right!

@ms.werkman7134 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent video hands down one of my favorite videos you ever made

@wyattredman4747 5 жыл бұрын

Why cant Season 8 Just get here already....

@hsojbean4559 5 жыл бұрын

Wyatt Redman oh man, this didn’t age well

@Ladymimikyu778 5 жыл бұрын

Wow amazing. I enjoyed this so much 😁 thank you so much 😁 ❤️

@TalkingThrones 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Nicole! 😘

@havinkarthikidstube9385 5 жыл бұрын

Nicole rea hi

@mercedesgiron9208 5 жыл бұрын

omg u r amazing!!!! excellent work my friend!!! thank u very much for ur dedication

@jmk5021 5 жыл бұрын

You proposed some interesting theories that are definitely plausible and exciting to contemplate as a possible narrative going forward.

@HOTDNews 5 жыл бұрын

It’s a shame that they missed important information in the tv show like old nan, Berics power of the kiss of life etc... (You could do a video on this; All important missing information)

@TalkingThrones 5 жыл бұрын

Game Of Thrones You got that right

@shermanali2632 5 жыл бұрын

Game Of Thrones :::::The prequel is a go,at HBO,an opportunity to explore the “GOT” universe more thoroughly!💥☄️🤷‍♂️✌️

@HOTDNews 5 жыл бұрын

m c yes but if you have watched the scene and read the book lots of her story was missed out

@theWazimu 5 жыл бұрын

We would need ATLEAST another 10 seasons to cover everything in the books love xD

@gogozeppeli9267 5 жыл бұрын

Game Of Thrones preston jacobs have the "what you are missing" thing videos ...check it out..

@detestor420 5 жыл бұрын

another nod to the Others being of House Stark(on the show) was the very last shot of season 7 AFTER they breached the Wall and there is an overhead shot of the Army of the Dead its the shape of the Direwolf of House Stark

@gabrieltamburini8053 5 жыл бұрын

Absolutely loved this vid, house Stark is my favourite house & I've always felt there was some sort of connection between the Starks & the White Walkers. I just want the prequel to start.

@naomicrispin697 5 жыл бұрын

Your theories leave me completely bewildered!!! Great analysis !

@ivaylo5ev 5 жыл бұрын

I believe the Night Queen was captured and imprisoned by the Starks of old in the tombs, more like a hostage. The others agreed to peace conditions such that she will be freed when the next winter comes (and Starks always remind themselves of the coming of winter). All this was done in the face of a situation where the Others would wipe out the entire realm, but the NK, bound by the love to his Queen decides to honor the request of men. As an alternative to continuing their line, they also demanded the male baby sacrifices -- a practice we seem to see occurring only north of the wall. But the Starks forgot. The NQ was not freed when promised, and the sacrifices were declining until they stopped eventualy. Maybe most of the wildlings are descendands of the people living north of the wall, the ones who had to supply the babies to the NK, but failed to do so and formed tribes instead. And, here he is, the NK comes to seek the end of the deal. This is in par with @Oracle of Raelor 's oppinion below

@jediboo7786 5 жыл бұрын

A very compelling breakdown. Great job.

@TalkingThrones 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Shawn

@bluocupcake 5 жыл бұрын

Amazing theory.. Your work is always so fresh and original.. I love it 💕

@emmaagostini5757 5 жыл бұрын

Wonderful and depth. Loved It! Really good work TT!

@jessvos9195 5 жыл бұрын

Thank u 😍😍😍😍 i was waiting for this

@TalkingThrones 5 жыл бұрын

Enjoy!

@jessvos9195 5 жыл бұрын

Talking Thrones i realy did , your video’s are the best . realy love this story over the night king / Stark . And really hope it’s true .

@tellywebsamacharblog 5 жыл бұрын

Finally U uploaded Video this week Thanks 😄 btw, Congrats Jon Snow and Yegritte Finally Crow & Wilding married now 😄😉

@astablack8812 5 жыл бұрын

You know nothing Jon snow;!!!!;

@astablack8812 5 жыл бұрын

The woman that plays Yigritta is a Scottish princess?

@fred9532 5 жыл бұрын

He really did blow her socks off properly.

@erikbondarenko5304 5 жыл бұрын

one of your best vids, great job once again!

@RorRiiZzLE 5 жыл бұрын

Also the the quote about the kings watching Ned with eyes of ice and their dire wolves snarling at him as they turn their stone heads could be talking about how the NK can like control the dead basically. Idk exactly but just food for though. You’ve been making some Gaulish videos even with this very long off season, keep it up man. Great job! 👍👍

@cfrandre8319 5 жыл бұрын

l didn’t realise these vids were in proto-French!😱...is that Charlemagne, lurking in the background?

@gogozeppeli9267 5 жыл бұрын

Rory Smith the night king that is in the show(the one who controls the white walkers) is not in the books right?

@possumpoppy 5 жыл бұрын

Craster boasted about having 99 sons and we know he sacrificed his sons. How many Lord commanders of the nights watch have we had? Perhaps this is significant

@annclark3914 5 жыл бұрын

U Hv Left Me..Speechless Again! Thk u sir, grt theory!

@TalkingThrones 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ann

@hugomlpaixao 5 жыл бұрын

I don't think the Golden Company is Braavosi

@pamelarollins608 5 жыл бұрын

You put together a very interesting theory. Well done, Ser!

@ByoShinable 5 жыл бұрын

I would love a book of old nan's stories. Love your videos! You're doing a great work

@mattchew6426 5 жыл бұрын

My theory is that the current Night's King is actually Bran The Builder, and that explains his methodical approach to invading Westeros. Knowing the weaknesses of The Wall as only the one who built it would know. Launching a single spear to kill (and then claim) a dragon seems like he didn't just come up with that idea in the spur of the moment... Mr. Frosty has been chillin' and plotting this out for a minute. He knows what to do and exactly how to do it.

@BambiLena666 5 жыл бұрын

I still think the reason they got past the wall is cause Bran crossed the wall with ''the mark'' negating the magic preventing them from getting through, the same way it negated the magic in the ravens cave.

@MrMills5454 5 жыл бұрын

@@BambiLena666 dont use internet theory as your own

@Jockeylotforfun 5 жыл бұрын

Winds HOWLING (like wolves) from the north, as WINTERFELL..Solid clues about Starks being night kings. ..kings of winter...night kings! Agreed 100% about 13th LC put in the crypts Ygritte said, "Jon Snow, ahh, an evil name, and shuddered". One also shudders when icy cold. The old night king wasn't killed because he was a half brother to the Stark (kinslaying is forbidden) that brought him down. This was really fantastic, thanks, love QOT.🌹 😊

@TalkingThrones 5 жыл бұрын

Great points! Thanks Olenna!

@Jockeylotforfun 5 жыл бұрын

Talking Thrones Dan, Thanks man! You get some much deserved R&R this weekend, Love QOT.🌹 😊

@SP2CA 5 жыл бұрын

I also believe in this one :D if he was a "Snow", that could be the reason that people thought he was from different northern houses (+Stark influence)

@Jockeylotforfun 5 жыл бұрын

SP2CA EXACTLY! Great point, I hadn't put that together till you said this. Cold winds are rising. I think those lower level tombs in the crypts where the iron swords have rusted away (according to Theon in books ) are where some of the whitewalkers have escaped. If 1 was 13th LC/nightking they could pass through the weirwood door under the night fort by him speaking his nights watch vow. QOT.🌹

@bobsanderson6520 5 жыл бұрын

So which "Snow" did Melisandre see in the flames?

@cjizzel8029 5 жыл бұрын

This is a great video. I love the connections I love the synapses I love the bridges I think you did a great job with all of it. This one and the one where the three-eyed Raven and the children of the forest had a hidden agenda with Brian is also my favorite these two I hope that they unfold

@arbutus400 5 жыл бұрын

Great Read, waited and waited for your upload video, thank you!

@bobsanderson6520 5 жыл бұрын

Only problem I see with the new pilot subject matter is that it probably precludes GoT from revealing the full story of the White Walkers. They'll only gives a hint and shameless tie the answer to the next spin off.

@factbeaglesarebest 3 жыл бұрын

I mean what? We will get REAL answers in Winds of Winter; almost certainly released next year.

@martinvurbanov5335 5 жыл бұрын

This Others/Stark relationship might be one of the reasons behind the others actually marching down south. "A single family ruling over the north for 8 millenia with an unbroken male line"; "There must always be a Stark in Winterfell". Maybe after Ned went South with Robert something was disturbed and the others were pissed off. In my opinion, the Starks are 'magically' the defenders of the north, and the more of them dying, the stronger the others become. Once Ned is killed and Ice is 'destroyed', that could be the incentive for the walkers to pack up and start the invasion. The only living Starks are Jon, Bran, Sansa and Arya. Bran is the three-eyed raven now, Arya is no one, Sansa is a Lannister/Bolton even though there's Stark blood in her (plus she was very enthusiastic about leaving Winterfell), so that leaves Jon the only Stark and the last line of defense against the dead. In another of your videos, you spoke about a special way to kill the Night King since he created all of the other walkers. Maybe the weapon has to be valyrian steel/dragon glass but it has to be wielded by a Stark in order for the impact to matter (just a hunch, not necessarily true). Just thoughts, however.

@JoshSweetvale Жыл бұрын

Ice is a relatively modern weapon, obtained around the same time the Lannisters got Brightroar.

@Pooty_Tang 5 жыл бұрын

Glad to see you making videos again!

@horkusone 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent video. I will have to let it roll around in my head and maybe even rewatch it before I know what I think of all of it. I am reminded that there was a time when there wasn't a Stark in WF -- when Bran left after Theon took over. I can't remember if that's when the NK started moving south or not. Great excuse to go back and check!

@victoryakubu5395 5 жыл бұрын

The walkers maybe back to avenge the killing of Nerd Stark

@TalkingThrones 5 жыл бұрын

That would be very interesting.

@markanthony1004 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, Nerd Stark's death was unfair. Revenge of The Nerds!!!

@drwombat 5 жыл бұрын

markanthony1004 Nerd Stark.. what's that mean?

@Jemsters1 5 жыл бұрын

Interesting, but they were active before Ned was killed.

@jjlambonscloudyproductions 5 жыл бұрын

Remember the Night King is a greenseer...he foreseen Neds Death

@holmarieox 5 жыл бұрын

I'm re-watching Game of Thrones again at the moment and I have a question- do you think that there could be some deaths foreshadowed in S8 from the way those people have killed others in the past? For example, Roose stabbed Robb in the stomach - Roose dies by being stabbed in the stomach.. Ramsey killed Lady Walder and the baby by using the hounds and then he dies by the hounds.. Could this be a hint as to what S8 could hold? Maybe Shireens death could foreshadow Melissandre's.. Just a thought, would love to know your opinion

@sebastianbodea5883 5 жыл бұрын

Melissandre might. But it's almost certain that Jaime will kill Cersei with that golden hand, and for Bran its either Jon kills him or he will take the place of Bloodraven in a weirwood tree.

@isabellamccann7395 5 жыл бұрын

We all expect either Tyrion or Jaime to kill Cersei though...

@sebastianbodea5883 5 жыл бұрын

Isabella McCann yeah but you have the song "Hands of gold" foreshadowing it. Look it up

@Richard_Nickerson 5 жыл бұрын

I think it's less about deaths mirroring each other and more about people getting what they really deserve, the most justice to be delivered.

@isabellamccann7395 5 жыл бұрын

I thought I replied to u the whole time, hehe. Sorry. No, I remember, it still just seems too obvious to me, you know?

@nightcitypunk8517 5 жыл бұрын

Great video TT. I've been chewing on these theories for a decade and a half. I'm beginning to doubt we will get the answers in this series. Even if we do, this proposed new series will cast a shadow on them. Damn George. Lol.

@lisettetrela4934 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the excellent research, not to mention the time, you put into making this video. It’s all so interesting and I’ll be thinking of you when the prequel comes out in a couple of years. Hopefully, HBO will go with this one..... at least this one. Have a fantastic weekend!

@marianomorales3636 5 жыл бұрын

Great theory! I can't wait for the Prequel show.

@pitchlink4499 5 жыл бұрын

Theory: You closed the video with one of the family's credo's, "there must always be a Stark in Winter fell". But what if this: there currently ISN'T a Stark in Winterfell. Not officially. They all have Stark blood, sure, but Jon is a legitimate Tagaryen, not a Stark. Sansa could be considered a Lannister or a Bolton. Arya has disavowed her name countless times to become "no one", and Bran himself said that he's not Bran Stark anymore. Maybe, the Night King is growing so powerful because the Stark family finally crumbled and essentially broke their end of the deal?

@TheRealRevelation 5 жыл бұрын

I watched a couple of your videos but this one got me! I was thinking this also. You earned a new subscriber with this!🍺🍻

@TalkingThrones 5 жыл бұрын

Great! Thank you 😉✊

@Abel-Jered 5 жыл бұрын

Great video man. I appreciate all the time and thought that was put into it.

@TalkingThrones 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Abel

@rezamohaqeq3678 5 жыл бұрын

This video was the best one.❤️

@TalkingThrones 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jamal

@madyjules 5 жыл бұрын

This was masterful ... thank you so very much, (as always)! You and GRAY AREA have such talent.. the analyses you both present: using the books to enlighten & explain much of what the TV series touches upon honestly reminds me of the techniques used for the academic study of a given subject. The resulting ideas & information are deeply intriguing and well as engaging & entertaining! I ‘m very ( and I’m certain that this is true for many other fans ) grateful & really appreciate all the time and work that you put into these fantastic videos. Thank you, again!!

@dougtexas 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent presentation! Your facts and analysis sound right on!

@obsidian00 5 жыл бұрын

Great video...great theory as well...even if the Starks past has a dark thread through it, I will always consider them the good guys!

@Undead117 5 жыл бұрын

and here im waiting for the books to tell more about Sothoryos or Asshai at least

@whoisritzz 5 жыл бұрын

Love your channel

@TalkingThrones 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Rita

@Pisces2387 5 жыл бұрын

im staring to think the night king was the last hero who sacrificed himself, and he's somehow related to the starks. Love your theory!! ive thought about this a few times myself. keep killing it with the videos!