It's easy to be steered into sell out info

Who tf is this guy

Why? Morgan Freeman narrating a documentary about European history means nothing, it's because you are a racist.

Interesting that the Orientals and Europeans did to the Haida what the Haida did to other tribes except for the taking of slaves.

These people are indigenous Canadians, not Americans.

I didnt. Our textbooks were full of lies.

Not all first nations have the same perspective. I grew up in Bella Bella and the heiltsuk, who had long warred with the Haida didn't have many good things to say about them.

@@KarmaTiger the Haida were terrorists

@@KarmaTiger That’s very interesting I would love to hear them make a documentary from their perspective that would be awesome

​​@@KarmaTiger don't we all have those story's brother. At least we can look back at are ancestors story's and look at each other without hate now I'm métis mixed cree much love counsin even if ya aren't a counsin much love brother

Second this!

This is a canadian atpn production, punch in Nation's at War and you will find more

It's called nations at war.

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Prince Rupert is tsimshian territory

@@XG916 I know. But Florrie was Haida. Not far away.

Hereditary or elected?

We have a lot of nerve naming any white construct after any indigenous peoples.

@@ejais would be hereditary. we don't have elected chiefs at home.

@@justiner246 so how does it work with inac aka cirnac/isc?

Is he even haida or are you lumping us together?

​@@XG916 well it looks like he's from New Westminster which is in the Vancouver area. But that's Capilano territory,,,, Hey it's better than nothing though.... he has a great voice and he does a great narration for this

@@eyetrollin710 i mean not my tribe even but I KNOW there has to be a haida that can narrate ffs sell out

I like his dramatic narration. He has a nice voice and very good diction.

No they weren't . They were out casted. Vikings got wiped out on their raids by even smaller Salish tribes. So there's no real power or dominance anywhere. Haidas we're wiped out on raids by tribes that banded together to fight them because they didn't like them equally

@@XG916 yes, they were called that but he should have put quotes on that as in "vikings" as they were a raiding people - they were not, however, the Vikings of the Norse

I am Alaskan Haida

Last I checked there's no difference between native Americans and first nations. Especially the BC tribes. You're white washed if you think they segregated themselves because their cousins lived across a border that didn't exist. Segregation is the white devil mindset. Also the entire continent is America's. By your last sentence I'm guessing you arent even native. Know your place and shut the f up

Am an Alaska white boy but can confirm Haida culture is a fundamental part of Alaska

Exactly correct...

Incorrect, there were many Haida villages in Southeast Alaska, the international boundary between the US and Canada is an artificial divide. Many of the people on both sides of the border have relatives on the other side.

All of their tactics, armor and weapons are branch off of Tsimshian. They were followers and desperate "raiders" that got slaughtered on landing more often than not. This documentary is a spin off of some made up realm of overzealous haida stories from a old senile man. It sounds drunken to boast one tribe of the PNW that was considered lower class amongst more powerful tribes on the coast.

@@XG916 your right on brother!!

​@@XG916.. oh joy infighting,,,, because we definitely don't want any positive representation 🙄🙄, yeah the full truth will be great but the reality is this is better than the rest of the nonsense coming out which is designed to keep people in a place of having no Pride. Communities that have been stripped of their identity or younger people growing up totally dissociated from our ancestors deserve to have something positive to see

@@eyetrollin710 I've never seen someone put together so many words and mean so little. Our tribes stories are sacred and you commit crimes telling stories from other clans. You have no idea what your talking about. Its honor code. Haidas had none

@@eyetrollin710 our protocol is so stricked that common folk tlingit will claim haida so they can easily move toward being a chief. Whereas you hVe to be blood to be chief in Tsimshian culture. Which i have coursing through my veins. My grandpa was super chief. So yes I brow beat tf out of false documentaries like this

Because they did. They have no real art. Most of their old stuff is Tsimshian based lol And Salish art isn't even correct formline. Only Tsimshian and Tlingit art follow the absolute rules

@@XG916 that's pretty arrogant...since the oldest totem pole is located on Graham Island. The theory is that the Haida people of the islands of Haida Gwaii originated carving of the poles, and that the practice spread outward to the Tsimshian and Tlingit, and then down the coast to the Indigenous people of British Columbia and northern Washington.

oh boy, you again. The Haida were a great people known around the world. The other nations were pretty good also, but not in the same league@@XG916

First nations? So Canadian

Except the Haida weren't even there first. The were one of the last groups to migrate from Asia to N America. Same with the Inuit.

That was the Tlingit

I just can't believe there were only 20,000 people on that giant island. Also surprised to hear that small pox and other European diseases weren't introduced until the Spanish ships came into contact. I had always thought that the spread of European diseases happened to the west coast long before that, being spread overland from native to native contact. Please correct me if I'm wrong. This just goes to show there isn't enough PNW documentaries out there.

If you're looking to learn more about Haida, i want to suggest the film "The Edge of the Knife." it's all acted in Haida language with Haida people. and it's a really touching and spooky film.

@@matthewobrien4639 That giant island is actually several islands and people live on the northerly one,Graham Island. It is very remote . Haida Gwaii is as far north from Vancouver as it is from Vancouver to the Hawaiian Islands over 4351 km.

Haida Gwai is in Canada, not exactly the Pacific Northwest!

@@LearnHowToBlog so how do define the pacific ocean and the compass? relative to CA/US/MEX Canada is pretty northwest eh?

They need to cover my grandpa Chief Paul Legaic

Illiterate and racist online, other tribes prevented the Puritans from resorting to cannibalism that first Thanksgiving.

Why are these societies so deserving of special honors? All societies have good and bad traits, Native Americans aren't some unique utopian pastoral society, they were as fucked up as the rest of us... Definitely don't want to excuse colonialism, but I think people put on rose colored glasses when looking at native societies a lot of the time...

@@Feuerbach1 The reason I hold them in such high regard, is that they developed a very sophisticated culture with incredible art and valuable ideas of how society should function, but I admit they where war like. Kind of like us today. I believe, if the Russians hadn't wanted all the furs, like sea otters, and ermine, they wouldn't have been attacked by western cultures and with that lack of contact, wouldn't have had the contact which led to disease which devastated there society's. To understand this better, Japan was able to deny access to their country for over 100 years, until US Admiral Perry told them, open your country, or we will do it for you, a threat of war. If the NW Coast tribes had that same opportunity, they might be their own country today. Have you looked at museum collections, like the museum of natural history in NY, or the new First Nations museum in Wash. DC. The DC museum has been gathered from several collection over the decades, like what was the Heye Foundation in NY. So, yes most of the NW tribes where war like, but I believe the Europeans have always been war like too. Remember the history of the 100 year war in Europe.

Yeah slavers like Anthony Johnson

@@jerryhill4012 I don't think Haida and Japanese people are comparable at all. One is a well-established nation that is considered by Europeans on equal terms. The other is what, boat-rowing raiders who terrorized smaller ethnic groups in their neighborhood?

Exactly!

Same could be said about Europe. If the horse 🐎 was Native to the Americas I highly doubt they would of had half the success they had.

That's where they were put

@@XG916 wow..cannot even pronounce your name. I would say/guess you are indigenous and are waaay more knowledgeable about the topic. I understood they retreated to the home island. Please enlighten. Thanx for comment

@@davechartier6898 I am a Tsimshian prince descendant of super chief Paul Legaic. No surrounding tribes liked them. They never gained territory. They were told to give up slavery. They remained on desolate haida gwaii. And the weaker band that was almost wiped out by tlingit was given land called Haidaburg. There's so much wrong with this documentary.

@@XG916 thank you for the clarity. What I would not give for a face to face with you. I would find that time INVALUABLE as a simple man's search for truth. Thank you for your time.

I always chuckle at the ignorant version of the cultured, "God-fearing" pioneer. The reality is far different.

from what i understand they didn't trade with ancient China (except maybe interacted with possible Japanese or other east Asian traders looking for a stinky yellow tree) but what they and most other PNW peoples did was have access to East Asian goods washed up from ship wrecks most prized being iron and other metal. the ocean currants bring a lot of debris from the east onto the PNW coast even today

I was adopted, at 6 months old - I was baby "B" and my twin was baby "A" for six months, into a white upper class family. I wish i knew about my past. Know Nothing of my past

The Haida may have come to the American Northwest thousands of years ago from Asia, crossing a land bridge between Alaska and Russia...emphasis on "may have"

We came from this land. Where did you come from white devil? Do you believe you're African😂

I don't know about the P.N.W. natives interacting with them but there is some decently solid evidence that the Inca or other Andean people had interactions with the Polynesians both having sweat potato's and having similar names for them is a big one

Nope. They are most likely a product of trade or were influenced by Tsimshian or Tlingit art. We canoed all over the ring of fire. There's no art on earth that's correct formline like tsimshian and Tlingit. There's rules you have to follow in our art to claim it as authentic

@askurmom5767 I looked at a Japanese Ainu site & the same DNA Haplogroup of PNW Native Americans is shared by Ainu. It's widely believed by scientists that the US was first settled by migrating groups from Siberia & Southeast Asia.

@@drusilladana4184 lmfao 🤣 okay you don't realize that we went all over the ring of fire and ladies love tsimshian and Tlingit men. They could be a branch of us. But go ahead and try to take away our individual identity. End of the day we were here from the beginning. We have culture. European colonists did not. They were driven by greed and religion

@@drusilladana4184 tsimshian art was and is the most symmetrical art there is. It makes Egyptian artifacts of the same era look like kindergarten drawings

@@drusilladana4184 if we're not authentic then why is our art? And why do only two tribes of the coast follow tje exact rules? Why did we have the most land when the bell rung and the round ended due to white disease? Pnw tribes were not taken over by colonists

Probably because they have copyrighted or trademarked symbols/images on them.

@@garynaccarato4606 I wonder why he would have trademarked symbols. is that common for chiefs?

@@Gloriousturtlechan they are tied to family heritage

The definition of genocide is this - the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group. IDK if that fits with what the Haida were doing.

no, that is not the definition of genocide

​Yes it was. Just ask the tribes got attack by the haida. The biggest problem is people who call others for they did themselves. ​@@LadyWhinesalot

this channel is notorious for spreading misinformation and false facts. For one haida are Canadian, not american. Im not even going to bother watching it.

They are a autonomous , non-treaty first nation within Canadian waters.

We can cross the border legally without a passport because we also had villages in Alaska it’s pretty cool

They'll have nothing but disrespect for you😂

@@XG916 dont be so sure

@@smokeymacpot76 oh where'd you grow up?

@@XG916 BC why..

@@XG916 do i have to live on Hiada to respect them lol

Apparently, they believe people knew what germs were back then.

Ya, part of their current problem is they blame all their ills on the invasions hundreds of years ago. Their technology was equivalent to Europe and Asia like 3000 to 4000 BC. It was never going to end well for them

Nah if you had any of PNW blood it'd be Tsimshian or Tlingit. From when we traded up and down the coast. Your art is a stem of formline art

@@XG916 haplogroup c y dna cm130

There’s zero evidence of large structures or boats left by the natives outside of Mexico, Mississippi, and Peru, and maybe some settlements in the Amazon. The northwest coast natives were the only people who independently invented any kind of naval navigation in the pre contact world and there’s certain accounts they traded with ainu people in Japan.

@@aspen1606 I guess you need to spend more time in the Carolinas or re-read the Spanish accounts from 1521 and 1526. Cabesa de Vaca and later Cabot both encountered people as capable as the Haida on the waters.

​@@aspen1606how do you know about that. Because Ania people don't know what you are talking.

No they are not

no, not at all...only in that they are an indigenous people

nor afterward

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No one said it was really?

Who said it was? There where nations at war throughout American history. Although Europeans did interrupt an very long pax Americana forged by the eastern tribes living In a confederacy by introducing the European plagues. Prior the Hilda and the Aztec etc,where rather the smaller forces disrupters of a overall peace between very large trading nations.

They are canoes and no they are not. Viking culture was weak. We make canoes from one tree. Vikings had to imply European style building.

Lol don't piss off a haida? They get mad when you make them look dumb. And no tribes in pnw are Polynesian or Asians etc. Do more research if you really love your wife. Or know your place

Go to hell white devil

Why are they any more or less 'noble' than any other group of people?? We all have some good and bad traits since we're all people

@@Feuerbach1 Ya, that was the takeaway, phffff

@@swapshots4427 only because you are a historically illiterate cretin. they had empire building and slavery too, they just weren't as good at it as Europeans, and having technology that was out classed by the guys who built the pyramids 5000 years ago didn't help

@@swapshots4427 Blowing raspberries at me isn't making a point, I think 'noble' is a stupid term to apply to anybody, let alone an entire group of people. And frankly I think infantalizes or disneyfies what is a complex culture, like any culture.

@@Feuerbach1 Ok. Just have your opinion and F O then.

Good to have your suspicions confirmed. However, please don't assume that people who watched the documentary did not wish to be better informed. Or have read a great deal about the subject, written about it or even might be part of a minority or descendants of displaced persons themselves.

@@pianississimo I'm not saying that, I I know there are people who are not associated with that crowd but my point is there are those who only wish to draw negative and be negative on a matter in which doesn't affect them in any other way than to brag about their 'Ancestors' being winners over 'The savages of the frontier'. I'm glad for people who actually take the time to learn and understand and am grateful for those people. I just dislike when I have the thoughts of people who are bigots and fall into racist rhetoric as they really just want a rise out of people, You understand where I'm coming from mate? You seem pretty open minded to me 😁👌🏽

@@Eliqueme not to be argumentative but I've seen as much of that sentiment in the comment section as people saying whites are most violent and worse. Disregarding the slavery and murder and greed mentioned in the video from the Haidas when in reality greed fuels all of that and technological advancement strengthens it. The difference between Europeans in this context with any of the tribes or people's they conquered is only technology. Greed, savageness cruelty is endemic in all human history.

Exactly. Not fierce. Desperate.

I dont know... Some of my family are S'klallam and they are certainly known as fierce. It's not derogatory to say that. Can't speak for the Haida, but I know that a lot of the big native guys around here are dudes you want on your side, not people that are known for being soft. Kind and often quiet, but hardly soft.

@@Controlled-Opposition. coastal tribes like yours had much more extreme conditions to live under. The inland tribes had more easily obtained resources. That may be a part of it. So much food they just moved when confronted. That or your tribe was uncivilized barbarians. Either way I hope the languages and traditions survive for generations.

Many were early subjugated ; their children "re-educated", and their Potlatch gatherings forbidden. Even today, many choose to live across the Columbia River where there is a radioactive zone that was used for WW2 atomic tests. Whites are forbidden to go there, so Haida live there, are tested and mostly unaffected!

​​@@thereissomecoolstuff your high off your ass. All coastal tribes owned their territory. Little inland tribes were slaughtered unless they traded. Our minds are sharper, bones denser and we are taller. We ate everything rich in vitamins. Inland tribes were sold out. We never sold out, none of us. You wanna tell me yud rather eat buffalo jerky over a salmon belly?

shssssssssssss dont say a word that they re like all of us .

Why overlook the inbreeding slaveholders that lied and murdered their way West?

@@jasonbrown372 you mean conquered all before them like they were conquered every land has been conquered .

@@ronmailloux8655 I do not concur.

@@jasonbrown372 yes I figured that but inbreed slaveholders do not strike me as capable of doing much . In addition it was small pox that wiped most natives out. History isnt pretty consider how the Mongols of the 12th century did .

Their enemies included the Coast Tsimshian, Bella Bella, and Southern Tlingit as well as the Kwakiutl, Coast Salish, and Nootkans...later the European and American traders

The Haida inhabit an island off the coast of British Colombia by Alaska. However the Haidan relatives extended all the way down to the lower Oregon coast.

@@aspen1606 the Haida do not inhabit "an island". Haida Gwaii is an archipelago of more than 200 islands

Yukon natives traveled too 😅

Gwaii - not Guai.

America is north America and south America. Americans come from the last word in the name of the United States of America. Same as Mexico is the last word in United States of Mexico. Mexican but we all are still people of Americas 🌎

no