How a Scandal Destroyed this Japanese Business

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Japanalysis

Japanalysis

Жыл бұрын

Poor sanitary health practices at bath houses became a nationwide concern in Japan over the last month. Find out why.
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@Japanalysis
@Japanalysis Жыл бұрын
Sorry the uploads have been slow recently. Hopefully should speed up for a bit here
@froz3ncat
@froz3ncat Жыл бұрын
Dude don't even worry about it. Quality > Quantity any day. You're right, the Gold Smuggling video was a crazy insight, 6 weeks is honestly not even that long for the amount of research, resource compilation and editing you had to do.
@KuroShiiiro
@KuroShiiiro Жыл бұрын
those 6 weeks made my favorite vid of yours. id agree that its your best 🫡
@AgentBO
@AgentBO Жыл бұрын
Quality over quantity :)
@chiragmathias771
@chiragmathias771 Жыл бұрын
Your videos are really fun to watch, I'm excited for a new upload each time.
@donutbombs6853
@donutbombs6853 Жыл бұрын
I’m always trying to improve my Japanese, so a million thank you’s for adding those excerpts in Japanese from the articles and comments you’re referencing
@lachlank.8270
@lachlank.8270 Жыл бұрын
From a microbiology perspective: Legionella bacteria pathogen was only discovered in the 1970/80s and is often underestimated because of this. It can easily cause invasive infections in lungs as it is a bacteria specialised to invade other larger cells as an environment survival technique. People used to always associate it with air conditioning, but it exists pretty much worldwide in dirt and mud Legionella naturally lives in soil and water and is often detected as a contaminant that indicates soil in a water supply or some other pipe breach etc. It is pretty environmentally resilient to water treatment since it can survive in the wild and tolerate acid, chemical attack, etc Legionnaire bacteria may indicate presence of amboea as well, as these bacteria often are able to live inside these larger blob microbes that can also cause invasive brain infections The bacteria is a serious problem and often goes underdiagnosed as a respiratory pathogen as a source of death in the elderly. Often found in potting mixes/soil, people accidentally get it from gardening
@wiandryadiwasistio2062
@wiandryadiwasistio2062 Жыл бұрын
that won’t deter me from gardening, thank you very much tho
@Sinitsu
@Sinitsu Жыл бұрын
Underdiagnosed? At like every hospital I’ve been to when ever there is community acquired pneumonia physicians always seem to cover for atypical pneumonia
@grilledflatbread4692
@grilledflatbread4692 Жыл бұрын
in New York people get infected constantly, it comes from the water sprayed from cooling towers. The towers are poorly maintained and breed pathogens.
@ants08031236414
@ants08031236414 Жыл бұрын
The Legionnaires Disease came into the limelight on July 21 of 1976, when members of the American Legion gathered at a hotel (still existente) in Philadelphia got sick by a mysterious disease. It was believed that the bacteria grew in the AC ducts. The case of Legionella disease associated with onsen in Japan is not new. Ity happened also in public bathhouses. True: Legionella bacteria grows in an environment called biofilm (the gooey stuff), where, as you pointed out, mold and amoebas are present. Therefore, it is more important in onsens to remove the biofilm growing in the pipes, rather than only killing the bacteria. And there is a ongoing debate in Japan. Beneficial properties of onsen waters are linked to its reducing characteristics. Chlorine, and other sanitizers are strong oxidants. By killing the bacteria, you also destroy the water characteristics. Yes. It is possible to keep the water running freely and prescind the use of chlorine. But the running cost becomes extremely expensive. I believe that there is one, and maybe a few more other places, where that practice this system.
@BBWahoo
@BBWahoo Жыл бұрын
Amoeba!? 😱 wtf
@TheNightquest
@TheNightquest Жыл бұрын
The press conference thing doesn't seem like it was by mistake. The way he told it seemed more like he wanted to guarantee all the blame was put on him. He most likely already decided where this was gonna got at that point and probably wanted to state that his employees are innocent in this and they actively wanted to do right by the law.
@28_futaba
@28_futaba Жыл бұрын
Doesn't that go contradictory to his inability to accept opinions other than his own?
@theresnothinghere1745
@theresnothinghere1745 Жыл бұрын
​@@28_futaba Not really. Even if someone can only accept their opinions overwhelming pressure and evidence can cause them to change it. If anything, if he was aware of his tendencies to not accept other's opinions then it could have just made the guilt heavier on him as he realized it was his fault.
@aedes947
@aedes947 10 ай бұрын
@@theresnothinghere1745 In my experience these kind of people hold even stronger to their wrong opinions, even if evidence shows otherwise. But maybe this is more of a cultural factor, in Japan it might function differently.
@DeathNikkii
@DeathNikkii 10 ай бұрын
@@aedes947 Pride and reputation matter a lot in Japan. If nothing else, he probably wanted to save his 300 year old family business at the cost of his own.
@kaynkayn9870
@kaynkayn9870 9 ай бұрын
@@DeathNikkii I think he cut a lot of corners to achieve that. 6 months is a crazy long time to change water, but it is also a lot of money you are saving.
@I_love_gibbons
@I_love_gibbons Жыл бұрын
Can you do a video of past Japanese business scandals? I think it would pretty cool
@IkePaz
@IkePaz Жыл бұрын
YES! the one with the shoddy real estate company where the building collapsed
@lachlank.8270
@lachlank.8270 Жыл бұрын
Idk if you've done a video on the Minamata mercury poisoning scandal and the dancing cats but it's maybe one of the worst chemical disasters in Japanese history Cats got neurological disease from mercury before humans bcos they eat the fish that themselves were full of mercury, so they started having fits and seizure like movement that people called them the 'dancing cats of Minamata' 😢
@PanzerChief
@PanzerChief Жыл бұрын
Yes yes that would be interesting content
@ZanicaKnight
@ZanicaKnight Жыл бұрын
そうだ!そうだ!そうだ!
@dwadd7528
@dwadd7528 Жыл бұрын
@@IkePaz thats South korea not jpaan
@user-cr5ms9tw4t
@user-cr5ms9tw4t Жыл бұрын
2:55 A supplementary explanation is necessary. It is true that the fine for pollution of hot springs is 2000JPY, but this is because this law was made in 1948 and was defined by the prices at that time. They will have to pay more fines because several other laws apply.
@Japanalysis
@Japanalysis Жыл бұрын
The 2000 figure was also only for the first inspection, right? Not the second inspection that found the 3700x
@woooshbait9696
@woooshbait9696 Жыл бұрын
there is no excuse for a 100 year old law. japan may look modern from the outside but the inside is nightmare
@user-cr5ms9tw4t
@user-cr5ms9tw4t Жыл бұрын
@@Japanalysis During the 1st violation, the Ryokan lied to the prefectural health department (not the police) that we change and disinfect our hot water regularly. They can issue a business suspension or a recommendation for business improvement, but they cannot seek a fine. And when they investigated one more time, things got worse and the county filed a complaint with the police for lying on the report. 2000JPY is the figure for that (note that as of 3/27/2023, the investigation is still ongoing and penalties have not been finalized).
@user-cr5ms9tw4t
@user-cr5ms9tw4t Жыл бұрын
@@woooshbait9696 I am also Japanese, and I sometimes shake my head at the strange conservatism. However, one particular law stipulates that these too-cheap fines in any law will be increased to keep up with inflation, so it is actually working out. The fact that this additional law was not reported in the news has also added to people's anger.
@nakedbeekeeper9610
@nakedbeekeeper9610 Жыл бұрын
@@user-cr5ms9tw4t it's an insignificant price to pay for living in such a safe and trustworthy society. You guys have it way better than any other western country that i can think of. You pretty much figured out the ideal social model for our modern times.
@WhiskersTC
@WhiskersTC Жыл бұрын
I'm astonished by the second trace amounts. 3700 times the normal limit? How does this even happen after the first limit being reached? It's scary to think about the little care put into such a frequent visitor location.
@shatterscape
@shatterscape Жыл бұрын
Bacteria growth is usually exponential
@WhiskersTC
@WhiskersTC Жыл бұрын
@Shatterscape I meant more so on the company's fault. They were issued a complaint and warning, just the fact that they did nothing and the bacteria grew to such proportions shouldn't have happened in the first place.
@shatterscape
@shatterscape Жыл бұрын
@@WhiskersTC I suppose complacency but this is clearly evident, probably overconfidence? Then again it is still tied to complacency
@airthrowDBT
@airthrowDBT Жыл бұрын
It sounds to me like the first measurement was faulty.
@airthrowDBT
@airthrowDBT Жыл бұрын
​@Shatterscape If it was exponential it seems highly unlikely that the timeline goes 1)guy gets sick, 2)test shows 2x, 3) retest shows 37,000x. Because the guy getting sick would have a lag time from exposure at relatively safe levels, the test 1 at somewhat elevated levels, then retest is bonkers. I'm sure test 1 was faulty.
@Ypsilion
@Ypsilion Жыл бұрын
I know it's a serious topic and someone sadly passed away, but your friend and the "やめて?" made me laugh way too much because I can hear your friend saying it the same way my friends say it, and I find it hilarious every time.
@zoroasper9759
@zoroasper9759 Жыл бұрын
yeah, had the same energy of "yeah maybe don't do that?"
@mikairu2944
@mikairu2944 Жыл бұрын
yeah it's exuding "pls don't" energy
@iceman96
@iceman96 Жыл бұрын
i hear franku
@curiouscat428
@curiouscat428 Жыл бұрын
​@@zoroasper9759why not tho? These kinds of things should be widespread to teach the culprits and perpetrator lessons. Don't play with people's health. Health is VERY EXPENSIVE.
@akita_inu-il6em
@akita_inu-il6em 11 ай бұрын
@zoroasper9759 because foreigners might want to avoid Onsens in general
@AceMoonshot
@AceMoonshot 11 ай бұрын
I got Legionaries Disease in 2000. It was brutal. It almost was year before I mostly recovered. It was like walking pneumonia. I went from 160 pounds to 125 pounds. Ached all over. All I wanted to do was sleep.
@marckye1
@marckye1 Жыл бұрын
I always thought they would change water everyday or it was a running water. Changing it once a week is already outrageous to me, I can't even fathom a 6 MONTHS water change!
@destituteanddecadent9106
@destituteanddecadent9106 9 ай бұрын
Tbf I do think it's running water, or at least it has been in every onsen I've been in. The once a week rule is probably for cleaning the entire thing out.
@allpissedup229
@allpissedup229 8 ай бұрын
It is running water, especially in natural onsens.
@shizukagozen777
@shizukagozen777 7 ай бұрын
​@@destituteanddecadent9106 It's not, you can't put chlorine in running water, plus he clearly was talking about CHANGING the water...
@shizukagozen777
@shizukagozen777 7 ай бұрын
​@@allpissedup229 Who said those are natural ? If you check the pictures, you'll see bathtubs and pools that imitate the natural hot springs but that's it, all is artificial, so no running water.
@RC-ul4gj
@RC-ul4gj 2 ай бұрын
@@shizukagozen777​​⁠ when they say“natural hot springs” it refers to the water source itself, not the tub. Generally onsens will have a constant stream of natural hot spring water, like at 2:39, to keep the bath warm. The excess water will just spill over the edge, but the water doesn’t change out fast enough to negate bacteria growth.
@Marbeary
@Marbeary Жыл бұрын
That was a roller coaster ride. I haven't heard Legionella disease in a long time because of advancement in water treatment. That is why I was scratching my head for it, this is common in 3rd world countries with poor water treatment hearing it in Japan is kinda embarrassing. And 2000 yen for penalties is also a factor if it is cheaper for them to pay a fine than actually fixing there water system they will go to pay the fine.
@airthrowDBT
@airthrowDBT Жыл бұрын
It can happen in first world countries from bad AC units or water storage too.
@lachlank.8270
@lachlank.8270 Жыл бұрын
Often underdiagnosed bcos docs never think of rarer microbes except maybe Pseudomonas People probably tend to get Legionella from gardening and potting mix now more than old water supplies But it's still fairly common cause of death in elderly as far as my time in a pathology lab taught me Surprising number of Legionella foresnic lung biopsies
@lachlank.8270
@lachlank.8270 Жыл бұрын
Also I'm certain Japan would have a tonne of buildings with shitty old pipes and air-conditioning outside of Tokyo proper 😅
@ignacio4244
@ignacio4244 Жыл бұрын
are you dumb? water from hotsprings are not treated.
@grilledflatbread4692
@grilledflatbread4692 Жыл бұрын
it happens in NYC often from cooling towers. Also cruise ships.
@lialiakicks
@lialiakicks Жыл бұрын
Thank you for covering this topic despite the pushback. Burying important societal discussions like this is probably my largest fear about Japan. Some folks in power don’t want to acknowledge big issues and hide it, thus making it unnecessarily harder to address & resolve. 😔 I’m glad it’s at least being brought up on social media platforms like KZfaq, but it shouldn’t stop there. Keep up the good work. 応援してます👍🏾
@turbostrike1632
@turbostrike1632 Жыл бұрын
As they say, "Pride comes before the fall." If he just accepted that he was wrong and actually listened it wouldn't have ended as tragically as it did.
@dingus_maximus
@dingus_maximus Жыл бұрын
I guess we’ll never know for sure, but I think he did accept he was wrong. He just didn’t want to accept the consequences.
@curiouscat428
@curiouscat428 Жыл бұрын
​@@dingus_maximushe's a coward then 😂😂😂🤢🤮
@Kreygore
@Kreygore Жыл бұрын
He deeply regretted it enough that he took his own life, that in itself is tragic, all life is precious and I hope hes in a better place
@avelynn5976
@avelynn5976 11 ай бұрын
@@curiouscat428 what he did was wrong but the fact that he took his life is tragic. genuinely awful that you're laughing at someone passing away. you're an awful person.
@RedsHitpostMedia
@RedsHitpostMedia Жыл бұрын
Damn that inn was just doomed to fail that generation first his brother was an awful businessman, and then theres Makoto who kept it alive for 30 years but completely ignored health regulations because he apparently didnt think it was harmful or didnt like the smell of chlorine?
@niello5944
@niello5944 Жыл бұрын
Not adding chlorine is entirely different from not changing the water. The reason he did it is very likely to save expenditure. Think how much money he saved by running a bath without maintaining it regularly. Just how much money did he saved by not having to buy chlorine or hot spring water regularly. That's likely how he was able to come back from the debt in a relatively short time.
@Loonaurtheworld
@Loonaurtheworld Жыл бұрын
@@niello5944 true but like, not changing for 6 months 💀😭 at least once a month 😔
@euko7469
@euko7469 Жыл бұрын
@@niello5944 chlorine is super cheap lol
@niello5944
@niello5944 Жыл бұрын
@@euko7469 Not if you have to buy it regularly every week or so for multiple baths. And it's not just the price of the chlorine.
@euko7469
@euko7469 Жыл бұрын
@@niello5944 lol sure it adds up but it's like a nonfactor when you consider they were millions in debt. you think what brought them back was saving on chlorine? you can buy a huge bag of chlorine tablets for like 50 bucks, and you need 1 tablet per 5,000 gallons of water.
@The_Stoned_Sage
@The_Stoned_Sage Жыл бұрын
5:38 This took a turn I wasnt expecting😳 But I get it. A business name tarnished and he felt the blame, very sad and tragic but a lesson was left behind
@curiouscat428
@curiouscat428 Жыл бұрын
He should just be a good boy and change the water then 😂😂😂🤢🤮. And I thought Japanese are well known for their CLEANLINESS and EXCELLENT WAYS OF DOING BUSINESS. But, playing with other people's health where people trusted him and weren't suspecting... Health is VERY EXPENSIVE you know.
@The_Stoned_Sage
@The_Stoned_Sage Жыл бұрын
@@curiouscat428 I see your other comments so personally idgaf what you have to say on the situation. Seems like you got a few screws loose
@curiouscat428
@curiouscat428 11 ай бұрын
@@The_Stoned_Sage sorry to disappoint you. Nope, I don't. You're just a typical Japan WEEABOO defending. Now cope and grow up.
@curiouscat428
@curiouscat428 11 ай бұрын
@@The_Stoned_Sage and it is not "sad" or "tragic" like your sad little mind with not just a few but a lot of screw loose likes to think. Entering bathhouses or onsen requires people to be fully naked, not wearing bathing suits. Imagine what disease and infections people could get from their bottom parts just by sitting on dirty, disgusting water. Yikes. And, no. No need to check my other comments that's MEANT for OTHER PEOPLE. They're none of your business. Just concentrate on your own. Dunno that you're such a pathetic BUSY BODY wanting to know everybody's business. So, it's me who IDGAF.
@curiouscat428
@curiouscat428 11 ай бұрын
@@The_Stoned_Sage lastly, the DEAD man who suicide knows very well that it's the payment he should made when he got caught doing naughty in business. He shouldn't have tried CHEATING from the start. He knows a cheating pric* will ALWAYS get caught in the end. And he knows he had to deal with shame. Any sane minded will agree with me, so obviously not for a sad WEEABOO like yourself. Go back to your hole and watch anime 🥱. Unlike you, I went to school in Tokyo and we really don't appreciate dirty establishment. Now, going back to try reading my other comments? Honestly, IDGAF.
@faenethlorhalien
@faenethlorhalien Жыл бұрын
A Japanese boss being a terminal case of micromanagement freak? ONE IS STUNNED.
@Zeemis
@Zeemis Жыл бұрын
But what happened to the bathhouse after his passing? Did another family member take it over, and did they also turn the business around much like he did in the early 2000's? Would love an update to the story sometime in the future, awesome work!
@rottenink
@rottenink Жыл бұрын
I second this!
@fel524
@fel524 Жыл бұрын
@@rottenink website is still up and there is a notification siting "We are writing to inform you that we have violated the established legal compliance and are therefore in violation of the National Travel Assistance The "New Fukuoka Avoidance Travel" tourism campaign has had its participation status cancelled. We sincerely apologize for the inconvenience. A New Fukuoka Escapade" Sightseeing Campaign Cancellation of registration: Wednesday, March 8, 2023 *From the above date of cancellation, all subsidies for lodging and travel, including existing reservations, and local coupons will be cancelled. including existing reservations, and local coupons are not available from the date of cancellation. We will contact existing customers with reservations regarding this matter in due course. We sincerely apologize for the repeated inconvenience." From what I know, you can still book there.
@riougenkaku6069
@riougenkaku6069 Жыл бұрын
No wonder he turned the business around in the 2000s because he barely spends money to change the water 😂
@curiouscat428
@curiouscat428 Жыл бұрын
​@@riougenkaku6069🤣🤣🤣🤢🤮
@qxujevozaeni1240
@qxujevozaeni1240 10 ай бұрын
Why don't they use salt & filtration? Salt is supposedly cheaper.
@verb9602
@verb9602 Жыл бұрын
The ending is really sad, I wish he didnt kill himself, but i'm also surprised he was remorseful enough to do that. You hear about big businessmen committing neglectful, selfish atrocities in the name of greed here in America all the time, and I've never heard of one killing themselves out of remorse.
@gradualdecay
@gradualdecay 11 ай бұрын
I think it was more the public shame, rather than the legionella deaths, that caused him to do it. Japan is a shame-based culture rather than a guilt-based culture, after all.
@childesimp3725
@childesimp3725 8 ай бұрын
it's probably public shame, how could someone live a normal life when the whole country knows it was their business that caused someone to die.
@AtillaTheFun1337
@AtillaTheFun1337 5 ай бұрын
@@gradualdecayhonestly, this is more of a problem than most people expect. It’s a major barrier to repentance…
@connormullin4547
@connormullin4547 Ай бұрын
@@gradualdecay Maybe we should be shame based, this seems like a more appropriate response to what he did than what most people in America would do. I can respect his actions after this came to light, protecting his employees, being honest and taking accountability, and ending his own life even seems appropriate considering he is directly responsible for killing 2 people. It's sad but it is a direct result of his own actions, some things I don't think are possible to forgive without adequate sacrifice and what sacrifice is enough to show remorse for killing multiple people? Even Christianity which is heavily focused on redemption has the concept of penance (I think that might be mostly a Catholic thing though, not sure about other types). I guess it doesn't really fit western values though, we do place a lot of value on redemption, probably due to how our morals developed alongside Christianity rather than whatever most of these shame based Asian cultures based their morality on. People have ended their lives in the US as well now that I think about it after being exposed for similar things. I remember a hedge fund manager who was found in his car after he lost a bunch of people's life savings making insanely risky decisions. It just is less common.
@gear772
@gear772 Жыл бұрын
Crazy in America if you’re caught for a scandal you just disappear for a year and then open a new business.
@MakerInMotion
@MakerInMotion Жыл бұрын
Yeah Jeff Skilling the main guy behind the Enron scandal got out of prison and went right back into the oil & gas business.
@grilledflatbread4692
@grilledflatbread4692 Жыл бұрын
In Korea they just release you from jail "for the good of the economy". Hi Samsung
@alanleung1828
@alanleung1828 Жыл бұрын
It's called natural selection, those with morals take responsibility and leave the industry, over time, businesses self-selects for amoral people.
@BBWahoo
@BBWahoo Жыл бұрын
That's the American Dream, baby!
@CatManOfTaste
@CatManOfTaste Жыл бұрын
In japan, you can eat French people, get off scott free, and make a career off of it 😂
@user-saraswatidevi
@user-saraswatidevi Жыл бұрын
I love watching when japanese politicians/public figures do these public apologies/press conferences sometimes I just watch them for hours lol
@lachlank.8270
@lachlank.8270 Жыл бұрын
So sowwwyy 😮‍💨 sumiii massuuuuushta
@Rae-vp4te
@Rae-vp4te Жыл бұрын
Wrong grammar bro
@lachlank.8270
@lachlank.8270 Жыл бұрын
@@Rae-vp4te me so solly
@itzpatrick2450
@itzpatrick2450 Жыл бұрын
Gomenasorry~~ 😞🙏
@easyduster
@easyduster Жыл бұрын
I loved gintama’s skit on it lol
@MultiSciGeek
@MultiSciGeek 11 ай бұрын
Bathing in one week old water sounds disgusting enough. Six month? Gosh I'm never public bathing again... not like I ever did anyway.
@beijingbikinikill8608
@beijingbikinikill8608 Жыл бұрын
Glad you covered this topic despite some pressure not to. Let this be a call for public baths and pools to do better. Hopefully, people can confidently enter these spaces again soon.
@TheShiningEnergy
@TheShiningEnergy Жыл бұрын
and things like this should ALWAYS be called out. no matter what.
@curiouscat428
@curiouscat428 Жыл бұрын
​@@TheShiningEnergyyes TRUE. I hate people who play with other people's health just because they think we can't see or unaware. Health is VERY EXPENSIVE. I'm glad the ex CEO paid it with his life.
@DABUNGINATOR
@DABUNGINATOR Жыл бұрын
@@curiouscat428 I don't know if the ex CEO was necessarily playing with people's health. I think he was ignorant & truthfully didn't see anything wrong for awhile. If he felt guilty enough to commit suicide, I think he finally understood what he did wrong. I don't think he deserved death. That's quite the extreme punishment to wish for anyone. Besides, if I really hated someone, I'd want them to suffer in prison.
@Hay8137g
@Hay8137g 10 ай бұрын
Nasty
@shizukagozen777
@shizukagozen777 7 ай бұрын
​@@DABUNGINATOR He was not that ignorant, his employees kept warning him.
@konichivalue
@konichivalue Жыл бұрын
I truly love the way you cover Japan! お疲れ様です!
@sheepler3301
@sheepler3301 Жыл бұрын
I actually made a reservation for the daimaru besso for may I was informed by the team of the website through which I made the reservation about what was going on and have been pondering since then if I should cancel it. I had hoped that since they've been discovered to have managed their bath so poorly they would up their standards immediately but I didn't know that they in fact failed 2 inspections and not just one. I'll talk about it with my friends again but I think they'll want to cancel it too after seeing this video
@Aru_im
@Aru_im Жыл бұрын
Better be safe than sorry. Unless if you are Japanese/lives in Japan where you can get more information about it.
@idealicfool
@idealicfool Жыл бұрын
Tbf it may well be under different management at this point and hopefully doing things better than the last guy
@nacaclanga9947
@nacaclanga9947 10 ай бұрын
Depends. You could also argue that after the first inspection they found it hard to put the recommendations into place and simply underestimated the seriousness of the issue and feared public outcry for too obvious measures. But now they likely have much free capacity to change the water.
@jinxedpenguin
@jinxedpenguin Жыл бұрын
Great video, the ending did feel a bit abrupt but I am glad you covered this story since I wouldn't have heard about it otherwise. Hopefully the algorithm gives you more views!
@gh0st6762
@gh0st6762 Жыл бұрын
Was not expecting that ending thanks for the video
@lunayen
@lunayen Жыл бұрын
They gave him a chance and he still screwed up. He's lucky that there was only one confirmed case. I only feel sorry for his family, since they have to deal with the aftermath.
@BBMorti
@BBMorti 8 ай бұрын
I really hope the reason your Japanese friends didn't want you to cover this isn't because ' It would make japan look bad'. Putting image above peoples health is .. yeah
@NeivyGenshin
@NeivyGenshin 3 ай бұрын
Yea ur right, the japanese friends basically said that the image of Japanese hot springs will worsen, so I kind of dont want you to upload the video
@shubhchourasia4958
@shubhchourasia4958 2 ай бұрын
No they r just don't want japan reputation
@estebanod
@estebanod 2 ай бұрын
I mean that’s literally what the friend’s response is: "I wish they wouldn't bring it up because it would give a bad image of Japanese hot springs." 日本の温泉のイメージが悪くなるか ら取り上げないでほしいけど
@madeleineharlow2466
@madeleineharlow2466 2 ай бұрын
I’d guess they’re more sensitive to embarrassment and afraid well assume all of Japan is like that, which is understandable to be upset about But they over estimate how things like this color American perception Like, New York is the most esteemed city in US, but it still has pizza rat
@sugarkane1571
@sugarkane1571 23 күн бұрын
Maybe I’m being the devil’s advocate here, but isn’t that understandable? Imagine you love your country’s food and want to show everyone, but one famous rich branch that makes your country’s food was caught out for health violations. Now everyone’s impression of your country’s food is “it’s dirty and will give you food poisoning.”
@GweenOfTea
@GweenOfTea Жыл бұрын
I’m shocked the health department didn’t take this more seriously, Japan has a very big “cleaning culture” when it comes to their homes, you’d think the same standards would be more heavily enforced at bath houses which run the highest risk of just overall dirtiness anyway
@muffinconsumer4431
@muffinconsumer4431 Жыл бұрын
Even if japan was a near perfect society, businesses would still try to find ways to cut costs without letting the public know. It’s just a rule of corporate greed.
@user-cw3wm9lx7w
@user-cw3wm9lx7w 9 ай бұрын
@@muffinconsumer4431 trhe
@miragebangbravern2024
@miragebangbravern2024 8 ай бұрын
Trust me, Japan may have a big reputation for being clean which it is but look enough then you can see the dirty parts. This is why you would see people on the streets cleaning trash at times and recently, a group of Ryo Saeba cosplayers from the anime City Hunter even did a whole cleaning event.
@user-cw3wm9lx7w
@user-cw3wm9lx7w 7 ай бұрын
@@ithecastic I mean it was a health resort that several japanese Prime Ministers used, it probably has powerful backers. If you take them down better make sure you don’t miss. Also that is why you would be very careful for this resort.
@claudeyaz
@claudeyaz 6 ай бұрын
Yeah but corporate greed can only get this bad when government is complicit and encourages it​@@muffinconsumer4431
@Chuckf66
@Chuckf66 Жыл бұрын
I've only just stumbled across your channel, and I'm so glad I did. You're easy to listen to, informative and interesting. Keep up the good work! 😁
@Japanalysis
@Japanalysis Жыл бұрын
@foolerodman9991
@foolerodman9991 Жыл бұрын
"yamete?" I don't know why but I just found that reply funny
@sompret
@sompret Жыл бұрын
Like when a Twitch chat says "STOP??????"
@myaxa8161
@myaxa8161 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Always fascinating to see what happens in different cultures
@TroyBrophy
@TroyBrophy 11 ай бұрын
This ryokan is about 15 minutes from where I live. I never used the onsen there, but had visited it. I wondered if this would be about what happened more recently with Big Motor. Hopefully this will be covered as well.
@afterburner94
@afterburner94 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for another comprehensive reporting. Eve if tragic, I'm glad you worked on that topic. Hope all is well for you brother! To switch the mood on your future videos, you should do Japanese politicians scandals, and the hilarious way they do press conferences apologizing with fake tears and cries.
@jasontodd6605
@jasontodd6605 Жыл бұрын
Man I love your channel. I usually watch 2 of your videos at the least a day
@WallyTony
@WallyTony Жыл бұрын
This channel is great. I never have a clue what you're talking about and am always entertained
@syrvolga
@syrvolga Жыл бұрын
Ouch, that final note. Thanks for the video!
@doctorakiba5667
@doctorakiba5667 Жыл бұрын
In the US, the guilty, but rich, person would be living a life of infamous luxury. While suicide is extreme, we can at least respect that he owned up to his own criminal behaviour/practices.
@Dmwntkp99
@Dmwntkp99 11 ай бұрын
Sweep it under the rug. Make it look good outside as long as no one notices can be seen in Japanese culture, many sources cover this topic.
@josh-hu4gb
@josh-hu4gb 9 ай бұрын
Yup. Like abuse are workplace and bullying at school.
@kwicksandz
@kwicksandz Жыл бұрын
I love your breakdown of comment sections. Could you do a video focusing on the comments section of current events and what Japanese people are actually saying about them? My Japanese level is not usually high enough to understand internet slang and abbreviations that are commonly used but how Japanese people think about politics, society and scandals, as well as how they put these thoughts into words is of great interest to me.
@nojustno8468
@nojustno8468 6 ай бұрын
Loved this video! So interesting! Just subscribed and will watch other videos on your channel. Great stuff.
@zakuraiyadesu
@zakuraiyadesu Жыл бұрын
Love the videos, man. Keep it up!!!
@ComedyJakob
@ComedyJakob Жыл бұрын
Jesus, I feel terrible that the guy killed himself. I wish he had had the courage to face punishment and forgive himself.
@Corredor1230
@Corredor1230 10 ай бұрын
He probably knew he would be getting a heavy sentence (somebody died, after all), and he was already 70. No way he'd prefer living the rest of his days in prison.
@YouJustAmazeMe
@YouJustAmazeMe 10 ай бұрын
You should feel sorry for his victims. He put many people's lives in danger and even got a person killed to make money. I doubt he grasped how fucked up what he did was even in his final moments. He was too much of a coward to acknowledge or confront anything he had done. Shame on you, for trying to paint a man whose greed destroyed others the lives of others as a victim.
@childesimp3725
@childesimp3725 8 ай бұрын
What about the poor victim? they legit died- I agree he shouldn't have killed himself and should face punishment but you shouldn't feel bad for the guy who killed himself but for the victim who died.
@SH-gf6sh
@SH-gf6sh 8 ай бұрын
@@YouJustAmazeMe Bro literally just said he felt bad that the dude killed himself, that's not victimising someone. Trying to shame someone for that is embarassing moral grandstanding.
@lzh4950
@lzh4950 8 ай бұрын
Reminds me of an ex-minister in my country whom I think said that Japanese executives would commit hara-kiri at press conferences last time
@romeox3485
@romeox3485 Жыл бұрын
I love this channel kinda cold to ask ur friends about it have them say “ Please dont you could ruin the image of Japanese bath houses “ and then immediately continue the video 😩 made me laugh alot tho
@KaiMangaKnight
@KaiMangaKnight Жыл бұрын
And now, I am too afraid of entering an Onsen... 💀
@KeganiJay
@KeganiJay Жыл бұрын
I did not expect that ending.
@fabitanker
@fabitanker Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for making videos also on controversial topics like this. (because 2 of your friends told you not to) I think its important to cover scandals like this too, even when it might lower the image of ryoukan. This shows that japanese society cares about flaws, and consequently pushes for correction. Maybe the manager was old-fashioned and therefore felt like his life was over. Though i like the custom of actually apologizing for your mistakes in Japanese society.
@shizukagozen777
@shizukagozen777 7 ай бұрын
Old Japanese people are usually old fashioned. 😅
@HelmuthGerka
@HelmuthGerka Жыл бұрын
This is a good video to make, its not going to affect tourism or give this place a bad name forever, but its important for people to know about these things and this makes business be more aware and do a better job for their costumers.
@DanielJoyce
@DanielJoyce Жыл бұрын
Because the water is so hot most of these places only need to use very low levels of chlorine. The water is normally heavily filtered as well. Given the short flow path and closed cycle, one would think that ozonolysis and uv light would become popular as it avoids the chlorine smell
@Saitama-nu6jf
@Saitama-nu6jf 10 ай бұрын
He literally took the adage "This is the hill (mountain) I will die on" to himself. What a stubborn old man.
@xBox360BENUTZER
@xBox360BENUTZER Жыл бұрын
Tragic end? I would say it is a happy ending after criminal scum didnt face any consequences.
@Mr3344555
@Mr3344555 Жыл бұрын
Now that the first comment is out the way, been waiting for an upload! Thank you and keep up the amazing work!
@zoroasper9759
@zoroasper9759 Жыл бұрын
Tell your japanese friends that as a foreigner I'm not scared and I still want to go to a onsen in Japan, one scandal doesn't make every ryokan dangerous!
@JanMyler
@JanMyler Жыл бұрын
Not every, but it makes me question how much of a widespread issue this actually is. It's well known the right way of addressing issues in Japan is to look the other way.
@avelynn5976
@avelynn5976 11 ай бұрын
@@JanMyler this happens in every country no matter what the issue may be
@BunnyQueen97
@BunnyQueen97 11 ай бұрын
If you’re charging hundreds of dollars a night, you BETTER be changing the water more than one a week.
@TheSongsiawei
@TheSongsiawei Жыл бұрын
Bro Fukuoka again? When we went to a tour group to a family run Chicken BBQ house, My mum saw a cat eat our food and demand they change the food, the old lady refuse it in front of us and pretend no to see the cat beside us, some Japanese just like to keep up clean appearance but actually disgusting and dirty. 😬😁
@gamechannel1271
@gamechannel1271 10 ай бұрын
The smell of chlorine comes from when it combines with organic materials, e.g. the junk you are trying to get rid of. If you apply chlorine regularly you do not smell chlorine, because there is less masses of overgrown organics.
@jamesbrook81
@jamesbrook81 Жыл бұрын
Wtf that turn dark pretty quickly
@CKOanime
@CKOanime Жыл бұрын
Aye man if it wasn't for this video I wouldn't even know that disease existed! Thanks for making the video and tell your japanese friends to chill.
@azv343
@azv343 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, wtf? Why would they want to keep it hush?
@ffls2706
@ffls2706 Жыл бұрын
​@@azv343 to not damage the image of japan
@QEDmirage
@QEDmirage 9 ай бұрын
So what I'm hearing is that the laws worked! Even after their initial fine, Darimaru besso got a surprise inspection *just to be sure*.
@ninja011
@ninja011 9 ай бұрын
Legionella infections are no joke. I almost died from one after lung surgery to remove cancerous growths. The infection cost me the rest of the lung. All because the hospital failed to follow proper sanitation and surgical prep procedures. I'm still slowly recovering from that mess.
@MichaelHarto
@MichaelHarto Жыл бұрын
This is the problem with successing a business to someone that wasn't planned in the first place. Unlike his brother, he might not know every bit of details. He wasn't prepared by his father.
@quimp.s.7355
@quimp.s.7355 Жыл бұрын
man... that plot twist at the end... a heads up would have been appreciated... I'm sad greed is something that so often clouds people's morals😢
@benedictus7081
@benedictus7081 Жыл бұрын
Quite ironic, someone called “makoto” couldn’t come clean with what he’s doing.
@nirvanalama8493
@nirvanalama8493 16 күн бұрын
These types of disease and infections always make me second guess before using a public bath house.
@shamans123
@shamans123 Жыл бұрын
Why did your two Japanese friends ask you not to make this video? I assume it's because of the tragic ending and thus subject matter? It still feels like an important event and topic to cover regardless.
@lemmygrad5425
@lemmygrad5425 Жыл бұрын
I believe the first one didn’t want this story to tarnish the reputation of Japanese ryokans
@sapinballwizard
@sapinballwizard Жыл бұрын
And the second just said "don't?"
@curiouscat428
@curiouscat428 Жыл бұрын
It's just another attempt to shut foreigners that they don't "understand the japanese ways", because what happened was quite shameful, actually. Good on the video maker to not listen to his "friends" and proceed to report what the world needs to know. If this is one instance, how many more baths secretly operates in dirty models like this, unknowingly we can all get infections and we're just tourists. It's disgusting. So this is very good to be reported and spread around, to protect baghgoers and tourists. The Japanese friends can go eat dust if they don't want ryokans repotations to get tarnished. Dont want a bad reputation? Do a good service. Simple as that 😂😂😂
@youngmasterzhi
@youngmasterzhi Жыл бұрын
Medieval public baths, even during bubonic plague, has more sanitation standards than that ryokan
@no_sir0_04k8
@no_sir0_04k8 Жыл бұрын
Can't wait to finish the video
@misosoppa3279
@misosoppa3279 Жыл бұрын
Haha same!
@moonlightblue9196
@moonlightblue9196 Жыл бұрын
I didn't expect that ending... that's really sad :(((
@freakishuproar1168
@freakishuproar1168 Жыл бұрын
ONCE EVERY SIX MONTHS I'm surprised they didn't have a thriving Ghooric ecosystem growing in the bath house after that. Shit would've looked like an M.S. Waldron painting.
@neelutadisetty5609
@neelutadisetty5609 10 ай бұрын
Nice coverage. Thankyou!! So you lost those two friends?
@user-zs6tc4ke8z
@user-zs6tc4ke8z Жыл бұрын
社長自らが毎日浴室清掃している動画とかを公開すればイメージ回復に繋がると思うんだけど、現実はそんなに甘くないのかなあ。
@wiandryadiwasistio2062
@wiandryadiwasistio2062 Жыл бұрын
“thanks, young man, for freeing me! i grant thee three wishes!” “genie, i want the manager of japan’s daimaru besso to be ressurected and barred away from death - i.e. being immortal - until he can be fully responsible for his heinous acts on the onsen’s management!” “well… i can’t bring back dead people tho…” “just bring him back! as a zombie, ghost, demon, idc!” “fine… thine wish is my command”
@letmedie4524
@letmedie4524 Жыл бұрын
The same thing is happening in SDSU where a professer died last month from legionaries’ disease I think there’s going to be an alarming rate of legionaries disease in next five years
@cyan_oxy6734
@cyan_oxy6734 Жыл бұрын
I could see that having double the limit isn't such a big deal as there's quite a safety margin on these pathogens and since they grow exponentially the cut off will be so low that reaching dangerous levels will take some time.
@kyrylosovailo1690
@kyrylosovailo1690 8 ай бұрын
It's very surprising they caught the bacteria level 2x the norm. When it comes to norms of hazardous stuff, it's either zero or bajilion times higher than norm.
@MultiSciGeek
@MultiSciGeek 11 ай бұрын
The footage of walking around Japanese streets is mesmerizing
@cacophonousantiquarian8803
@cacophonousantiquarian8803 Жыл бұрын
Every time I see videos of crowded streets in Japan I just expect to see Kiryu throwing thugs around and slamming bikes onto them in the background
@archonjubael
@archonjubael 5 ай бұрын
I’m sad at the finish here. I wanted him to be held accountable to prevent more people in leadership doing such things.
@basspuppy133
@basspuppy133 25 күн бұрын
It always mortifies me how whenever you read or watch one of these "how this japanese business destroyed itself" videos and the CEO finally gets called out and quits, EVERY TIME only days later they end up taking their own lives out of shame. It's uncanny and really messed up.
@m8rs558
@m8rs558 7 ай бұрын
It occurs to me that his last press conference confessing everything wasn't a mistake on his part. Makes it even sadder
@krisames411
@krisames411 Жыл бұрын
woah another good vid! nexct please do BOCCHI za ROCKu! it is great animation!!!
@Green4CloveR
@Green4CloveR Жыл бұрын
No country is perfect but we can understand it better if we see all the good and the bad. Thanks for showing us.
@ferryvanleyen5606
@ferryvanleyen5606 6 ай бұрын
32 people died in the Netherlands because of legionella in a fountain at a floral exhibit. Don't underestimate it.
@1whospeaks
@1whospeaks Жыл бұрын
AC's can also be sources of Legionella, so keep it clean and replace stagnant water frequently.
@easyduster
@easyduster Жыл бұрын
What the heck I love going to sentos and onsens…I’m lowkey scared to go now
@stephancote4745
@stephancote4745 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the story 🙏
@greenjp779
@greenjp779 Жыл бұрын
I wish that he wasn't pushed to believe that taking his own life was necessary
@Valentin-xv3xn
@Valentin-xv3xn Жыл бұрын
Didn't expect that end, pretty sad
@AnotherCyborgApe
@AnotherCyborgApe 6 ай бұрын
The only way the ending could have been worse would have been for Logan Paul to live stream himself finding the body and doing his best youtube shocked face.
@MrGrus11
@MrGrus11 Жыл бұрын
Ah fuck that was a rollercoaster of emotion. Seriously though did he not have technical advisors at all? This could so easily have been avoided..
@ericwlezniak2081
@ericwlezniak2081 9 ай бұрын
There was a similar health crisis in North Carolina some years ago. A guy died from a brain eating amoeba, and investigators traced it to the white water rafting center, which wasn't cleaning the water properly.
@user-zn6ny6iu1w
@user-zn6ny6iu1w 6 ай бұрын
"I'ts all my fault and I'm deeply sorry" sounds so much better than "we investigated ourselves and found out we didn't do anything wrong" which is what you hear in pretty much all of the rest of the world...
@sonicsnaxx6315
@sonicsnaxx6315 Жыл бұрын
If he really wanted to go out in style, he should have just taken a bath at his own business.
@KuroShiiiro
@KuroShiiiro Жыл бұрын
thats kinda crazy that he was fined only 2k yen initially. im glad there are people who are "🤨" ab that. and thats crazier he up n did *that* after stepping down never woulda known wo ur channel. thanks for the vid
@timothyharris1125
@timothyharris1125 5 ай бұрын
He sounded ashamed of himself but also self-interested in his approach and it ended badly for him. Gotta change the bath water though to stay in business in this case, so......
@jonathaningram8157
@jonathaningram8157 8 ай бұрын
He sure wasn't a competent CEO, but ending your life for that... Really sad.
@y-mefarm4249
@y-mefarm4249 10 ай бұрын
Thought it being a hot spring, the water was constantly being renewed. As springs come fresh from the ground. Interesting and a bit gross. Something that was on my bucket list has now been removed. I ain't sitting in week old bath water that had bunches of nakkid bodies in it before me. Yuck.
@lucynyu333
@lucynyu333 Жыл бұрын
Can you do a video about bullying in Japan? I heard that it is very extreme there especialy in high schools and social meda just like in South Korea. I know that it is a very sensitive topic but it came into my mind how a celebrity killed herself from online bullying because she said something mean in a reality tv show to someone who ruined her clothing in the washing machine.
@destituteanddecadent9106
@destituteanddecadent9106 9 ай бұрын
Kimura Hanako! That was so tragic 😢 Everyone deleted their tweets and no one's being held accountable.
@rhythmandacoustics
@rhythmandacoustics 10 ай бұрын
Dam did not know you are Canadian. Greetings from Montreal.
@FollowTheSunAustralia
@FollowTheSunAustralia Жыл бұрын
So you have onsens that the water comes up naturally from the ground, and the hotel types that it's just like a public swimming pool ?
@wanderer8038
@wanderer8038 Жыл бұрын
his death didnt even solve the problem. just gave the problem to someone else and the public
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