It's a good video. Keep it up. Be bold buddy!

That's a fantastic goal Gene! Keep up with the training and I'm sure you will be able to 😀

@@NutritionTriathlon and after some longer and more intense races and events my VO2max is now at 58! As long as it keeps going up as I age I think that is ok! 🙂

Nice! And great result. Was that your first time testing it? Yep, it is. Efficiency and your lactate threshold are both probably more important than your vo2 max. Vo2 max can depends on height, gender etc and change relatively little, but your ability to improve efficiency in a sport and/or your lactate threshold is usually considered far more beneficial to endurance performance.

@@NutritionTriathlon Yes, first time testing. I did it on the run

Awesome! I'm probably going to do a run one next time as I've only ever done bike vo2max tests

what Garmin do you use?

Fenix 5

Thanks! Ok, I'll look to go into this in more detail in the future! It's a bit demotivating, isn't it? But I also kind of like it because I like to prove garmin wrong ;)

Me too, I'd like to know how close they are now. Unfortunately not much change in my Garmin stats though 😅 but I'm definitely fitter!

Haha you and me both then! Sure, I can defo do something on those. I'm hoping to do some more lab testing over the next couple of months and I'll aim to go into it in more detail. By the vo2 max master, I guess you mean the brand with the portable masks, similar to ones like PNOE? I'm not sure on the accuracy of them to be honest (just because I haven't looked into them much, but will do in the future). But the big thing is how you interpret them and use the values you get in training or racing. If you can't realistically use them in a helpful way then it's just doing something for the sake of doing it. I think generally vo2max = less helpful, things like lactate profiling = more helpful.

How do you measure your heart rate for the runs? Based off the watch's wrist HR tracker or do you use a dedicated hr strap?

@@NutritionTriathlon wrist, but I've counted my pulse and compared. It seems accurate.

@@MNP208 if you can talk it seems very unlikely that you'd be in zone 5. I find that when I go running without a chest strap it's very inaccurate, I would suggest getting one.

Sorry I missed your reply. I would agree with David. I know you mentioned counting your pulse but I would be quite surprised if your pulse was 155 whilst running but you could talk fully etc. Chest or arm hr strap would probably be useful if you would like an accurate reading!

@@NutritionTriathlon I'm going to have a V02max/hr range test completed.

HR is very individual. Can you actually get close to those times for hm and marathon? If you are then I suspect you know how to race and if you think you're giving it your all, I wouldn't worry about trying to get your HR higher! It will be where it is for a reason

Hey! You're welcome, and thanks for the comment! Sounds good, I'll bear this in mind then for some future videos on VO2 max!

Yeah this is a great topic. I'm hopefully doing a lactate test in the next month or two so I'll add this as a video topic to do then and cover it all!

Me too, it's a fun one! Thanks!

At 1:18, VO2 max estimation was 60

@@NutritionTriathlon that's a shame, I was hoping garmin would underestimate

You and me both 😆

Whatever the reason, great stuff Ric! Sounds like you're keeping active and your fitness is awesome. Kudos to you!

Many watches require a solid 20 minute hard effort to estimate. So slow / easy runs throw it off. I dont think they actually share too many details on how they calibrate. Thats just my guess from using garmin which I switch between easy work and different types of speedwork. I think its ni e to look at the number but benchmarking is best done with a time trial that is repeatable (I do a 5K around a lake once a month)

@@kierenkd Yeah I could see that being an explanation. I am doing light 30-40 minute runs but super light. If I try and see how my slow running is going by pushing pace it tends to level me up on that run. I don't think I have ever seen it improve the score on a slow run.

Haha yep, I get the same. When I'm in a phase of doing more easy aerobic work my vo2max drops right down. Similar picture for cycling vo2max too!

My Vo2max just got higher by running a slow run in a very hot day, so my heart rate was very higher than usual. Strange conditions for a higher vo2max evaluation, maybe it s rather the sum of the weeks work than the single performance

Thank you! It's my old university labs

I'm not fussed about wrist based heart rate or spo2 monitoring. Garmin is far more suited for my needs as a triathlete!

Watch from 1:16 😉

Why do you want to know that?

@@NutritionTriathlon Well, I'm seeing that runners experience an Iron deficiency from constant foot strike called, Exercise induced hemolysis. I've got to believe that an increase in Iron, for some, would help their vo2max reading.

If someone had an iron deficiency anaemia then it might help, but we are talking about a small subgroup of patients. I don't think exercise induced haemolysis and through that anaemia is particularly common! If they have normal iron stores and haemoglobin then wouldn't be any benefit

Interesting ideas, thank you! 🙂

Pretty close, I did put my Garmin value in the video 🙂

@@NutritionTriathlon Garmin is not accurate in my experience; it overestimates my VO2 by 15%!

Fenix 5

I'm afraid I don't have one of those so I won't be able to, sorry!

Yeah I've found the same. Garmin seems very picky about which workouts it likes! I'm currently in a low intensity training block and Garmin doesn't like it 😆 Sounds like your experience is the same as mine! We did test lactate, but it was just before and after. It certainly showed I tried ;) But otherwise it's not really useful in a VO2max test because it is too short and non specific. However, for performance generally and usefulness to athletes I would say a lactate threshold test is far better. If you can find what zones you're at a certain lactate and plot your lactate curve then that can be incredibly helpful. You can actually tailor your training to your current capabilities. In general I'm not a big fan of general blood work through companies. I think the potential is there for more harm than good. For the most part, better to chat with your family doctor if you have genuine concerns and let them manage it.

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Haha yes, maybe! I'm thinking of trying to beat it soon, maybe I'll hire a T-Rex to help out

It was a university campus so I hope not 😅

Tbf 55 yrs so pretty happy 😅

That's great, nice one! Now you've got a nice metric to track too 😃

It used to overestimate my race predictions but I'd say it's about right now

Interesting to hear, thank you! Sounds like we're in the same boat.

Hope you had fun!

My garmin was out ly vo2 was 48 not 45 ,,that makes me pretty decent for 55 yrs ,can hopefully get to mid 50 s

Good luck with your testing!

Date changed to next week ,,,,

It’s gone to 45 ,making my fitness age 20 ,,no way

Interesting to hear, thank you! Did you think it would be closer or did you expect a big difference?

@@NutritionTriathlon I was hoping Garmin was correct but I expected it was overstating it. As with all devices, as long as it's consistent you can still track progress. I'm thinking of just applying that factor if I ever want to know the approximate number.

Absolutely, that's what I do too. As long as it's consistent you can see the trend

Yeah, I would say that a true vo2 max test for most people just isn't that useful. Do you use heart rate monitoring? If so, what do you use? A common reason I've seen for an abnormally high vo2 max is falsely low wrist HR measurements (as I believe garmin compares HR values to the population at a specific pace or power to estimate vo2 max).

@@NutritionTriathlon i use a the garmin hrm-dual for heart rate data and a tacx flux s for power data. I don’t think those are the problem. Something to mention is that im very lightweight, maybe that has something to do with it. I enjoyed the video btw

Yeah doesn't sound like they are! Thank you! 😊

Hmm?

@@NutritionTriathlon kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qLN8jMyrqtW6cn0.html - says I can run 5k in 60 minutes

Would be nice though, hey?

What is fake about it? This was just a fun video which I made about my experience with it. Not sponsored or affiliated. Happy to take onboard your thoughts about music though. How could I improve the video? 🙂