How Aggro Works - Become a better Tank [OUTDATED]

How Aggro Works - Become a better Tank [OUTDATED] - Neverwinter

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4 жыл бұрын

Threat! This is what I do my best to explain. How it works and how to maintain it as a tank. This video should give some insight into how threat generation works and the methods to do so. Hopefully this will help with your understanding.

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@saramedusa9554 3 жыл бұрын

Since I have started my tank this has been the single most useful video. Thank you.

@wickid3616 4 жыл бұрын

Aragon does some bad ass uploads, again props. I am a fighter/vanguard/endgame TANK (when in dungeon loadout i am over 1 million hit points and a meat shield/aggro magnet). if any of you tanks want to get together and compare notes i am glad to do so. we are all tanks, I am glad to help. let me know you seen Aragon's video on youtube, and as soon as i can get away from what i am doing we can talk. I also have a mic, I don't do discord. WickiD

@Hardcorehero3 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video! It was nice to hear the actual numbers behind threat generation. The video confirmed to me that the only way I can be better is by increasing my own damage output.

@Aragon- 4 жыл бұрын

Hope it helps :)

@Joe-gb3lu 3 жыл бұрын

I never knew what that colored bar was up in the corner- thanks so much for the info!

@robertvito1 4 жыл бұрын

Once again your video has set me on the right path. I appreciate all the help and am really looking forward to the new content with my new set up. Thanks again

@robertvito1 4 жыл бұрын

Question when you tab skill what is the Bird that shows up ?

@Aragon- 4 жыл бұрын

That is from the Intimidating Presence Feat, which is good for nothing but looking at :)

@robertvito1 4 жыл бұрын

@@Aragon- In your testing is it worth it ?

@Aragon- 4 жыл бұрын

No, not at all. It just looks good visually. I have completed the New trial Zariel with it, but it is harder without the 75% shield from Unyielding Champion.

@AKarrit 4 жыл бұрын

Just what I need! Never play tank as I have no clue what I’m doing, but can improve now thanks

@Aragon- 4 жыл бұрын

glad to help :)

@wickid3616 3 жыл бұрын

with tank u can become very rich. ppl always need tank. all my mount powers heal me. i also have companion powers which heal me. get those hit points up there with fortitude insignias. incoming healing is a big plus. at least 10%. then you can be called a solo tank.

@fogydew54 4 жыл бұрын

had trouble with my tank for ages well below what it should be, found your points very interesting thanks..,

@Aragon- 4 жыл бұрын

hope they help

@Ggeekoo 4 жыл бұрын

Now I know why I'm stealing aggro on my healer in rtq demo. TY!

@MrRhabdos 4 жыл бұрын

Nice video! Thanks for the infos from a fellow paladin!

@Aragon- 4 жыл бұрын

Glad to help!

@ezequielalejandroalvarez2740 2 жыл бұрын

Lov ur vid, ty so much

@WhiteCavendish 4 жыл бұрын

Very interesting point about the 10% more on a hard taunt. I wasn't aware that was how it worked specifically. This is why I'm surprised more people don't use baneful strikes - one of the best feats available to justicar, imo. Bane is a really good encounter with quite good damage and utility, and combined with Oath Strike, it procs a lot as a rule. Builds a lot of aggro, and can take the place of vow in most situations. Of course, there's those certain mobs in NW that simply ignore aggro rules completely...::cough::Valindra::cough:: I hope that in this mod, more DPS will learn what they can do besides simply holding back on damage, to keep the aggro on the tank - ie stealth for rogues. It sounds like Aura of Valor is going to become even more critical in mod 19.

@Aragon- 4 жыл бұрын

Yup, glad I could shed some insight on the subject. Aura of Valor is good in Zariel when you are the "main" tank

@albusanguis 4 жыл бұрын

good job. a lot of NW people have no idea what threat is. this is good to link them. In most MMO healers threat has a negative multiplayer around 2x (200k healing = 100k threat).

@Aragon- 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks, yeah, my thoughts exactly, hence I made the vid ;p

@diogorafael3563 4 жыл бұрын

I noticed this,my barbarian tanks had a really bad aggro holding until i set the cap of combat advantage, once C.A doubles my damage, i believe it doubles my aggro generation. I run tomm as a solo tank everyday and hardly lose the aggro even though running 1 top threat encounter.

@Aragon- 4 жыл бұрын

More damage = more Aggro. That's what I've done too, capped my CA for Zariel.

@chr7s77 4 жыл бұрын

Great video, ty! If my threat is high am i getting aggro from everyone i.e. a mob? Or is it like a percentage of the group based on how high the threat is?

@Aragon- 4 жыл бұрын

Your threat is based on each target individually. You might have super high threat on one target and super low on another. It just depends on how much damage you did to it.

@chr7s77 4 жыл бұрын

@@Aragon- ty!

@Chomik027 4 жыл бұрын

Good video, but can you tell us how did you get these wings? it's some fashion item?

@Aragon- 4 жыл бұрын

The wings are from the Tab power + the feat Intimidating presence on the paladin

@171Bogdan 4 жыл бұрын

Hey, cool vid, can you please tell me what comp gear you use? I am trying to fine tune my stats and I am looking for what other tanks use, thank you.

@Aragon- 4 жыл бұрын

I currently use, 12k Combat advantage, then 7.2k crit avoid with 4.8k deflect, then 4.7k deflect with 7.1k combat advantage. That's these: [Gold-leafed Grimoire of the Companion][Briar-vined Sword Knot of the Companion][Dull Ring of the Companion]. Combined with a 20k defense ring and a Tanners ring, 12k ArP and 8k Acc

@171Bogdan 4 жыл бұрын

@@Aragon- OK, I see. Can you also please tell me what stats you have while tanking in zariel? I know I am asking a lot of things, but with the things you use, some offense stats are uncapped. Thank you :) Edit: now that I think about it, have you come to the conclusion that for agro CA is better than capping crit/armor pen?

@Aragon- 4 жыл бұрын

@@171Bogdan, I am using Assassin Enchants in all offense, and yes you are right, my Critical strike is sitting at about 82k and my Accuracy at 79k, not ideal, I'm still moving things around, but that is what I've tanked with so far and had a good few completion runs without dying or loosing aggro.

@thomask1424 3 жыл бұрын

Very helpful info here. do you have one for how to properly DPS so we don't grab agro?

@Aragon- 3 жыл бұрын

the only real way as a dps to ensure you don't take aggro, is to deal less dps than the effective dps of the tank. At the begining of the fight you want to be careful when hitting with big hits. Just watch your own aggro bar, if its turning orange, slow down on dps, wait for it to go yellow again.

@thomask1424 3 жыл бұрын

@@Aragon- Thanks, I wasn't aware of that bar til seeing this video. I've been trying to let the tank grab the agro 1st but a lot of times when you're playing with lower level players in dungeons, I'll pull agro w/o meaning to so I've started using just at-wills to do less damage.

@jesuisbryan758 2 жыл бұрын

When the bar is red and I'm only attacking one 1 mob. Does that mean that the rest of the mobs that I'm not hitting will only attack me and won't touch the other players in my group?

@Aragon- 2 жыл бұрын

No, every enemy has it's own threat metre. For the all to attack you, you have to be red for every single one of them, when you look at them

@jesuisbryan758 2 жыл бұрын

@@Aragon- thank you!

@MrBberthelsen 4 жыл бұрын

How did you calculate the threat modifiers?

@Aragon- 4 жыл бұрын

By testing with test weapons with 0 stats, with a friend

@MrBberthelsen 4 жыл бұрын

Possible for you to share the threat calculations? I assume you did I it with 2 paladins?

@JenniferSmith-uu4wf 4 жыл бұрын

What gives you those GoldenWings ? Please let me know.

@Aragon- 4 жыл бұрын

the useless feat, Intimidating presence!

@JenniferSmith-uu4wf 4 жыл бұрын

Aragon - Neverwinter Why is it useless. Isn't threat generation important ?

@Aragon- 4 жыл бұрын

yes, but compared to the other feat, it is useless

@ddddd491 4 жыл бұрын

Lol too bad this video come out late i quit playing my tank but great video anyways

@Ashtarot77 3 жыл бұрын

What's your HP at the moment?

@Aragon- 3 жыл бұрын

while fully buffed up, I'm at 1.13 million

@tycheese5 3 жыл бұрын

is this outdated i am just learning the game and heard there was a combat rework recently

@Aragon- 3 жыл бұрын

Yup it's outdated, I'll edit the title

@randyzakk1178 4 жыл бұрын

Does no one play the Vanguard tank anymore? I always see Paladans and Barbs as tanks nowadays. Most videos about tanks are from the pally and barb perspectives too...

@Aragon- 4 жыл бұрын

I see quite a lot of Vanguard tanks. They are the easiest to play, so the content wouldn't be anything special.

@wickid3616 4 жыл бұрын

i am a fighter tank, let me know if you need some help.

@SeanBotha 4 жыл бұрын

Really great video. I used to loose agro in beginning and once i had it kept it this explains why and where i went wrong . All tanks i asked for help could not THANK YOU !!! If i am online feel free to ask me to help on preview if you need someone for agro on dummies or just a test subject :) ( @mynaam )

@Aragon- 4 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped! thanks for the offer to help, I might just need someone in the future :D

@Zekzt 4 жыл бұрын

If most tanks watch this maybe i wont have to dodge-tank so many shit with my tr 😉

@Aragon- 4 жыл бұрын

Yep xD

@psycopatchetjuggalo4008 4 жыл бұрын

That's not how threat works threat has nothing to do with how much damage you do it's just taunting an enemy basically making you a red herring

@Aragon- 4 жыл бұрын

This is how aggro works, like it or not. You dont have to actually deal as much damage because the mobs and bosses think we do more damage than we actually do, as i say in the video!

@johndemech6397 4 жыл бұрын

PAY TO PLAY........NO THANK YOU STAY AWAY FROM THIS GAME! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!

@Aragon- 4 жыл бұрын

Pay to play?? idk where you get that from?

@johndemech6397 4 жыл бұрын

@@Aragon- in order to enjoy the game for what it really is, meaning in order to "Run Dungeons" with "good drops"...... You must pay..... And you can buy most of the good drops at the store anyways. ..most people purchase legendary mounts and high-ranking enchantments which is all you really need in the game.....

@wickid3616 4 жыл бұрын

@@johndemech6397 yes you can pay your way through the game and troll on people while they check out your store bought gear, the lazy way to play. most people are lazy. i sell things at the auction house and i become rich by people being lazy, its really difficult and exhausting to click a mouse. most of us old school people to this game and others really grind to get what they have. i am not hating, just stating how i feel about it. thank you.